Yes, yes. What that one of them and I think we need to deal with because it failed, whether it was properly brought or not.
And that is why I think we shouldn't be putting in one, because I suspect that we're going to have a 30 minute discussion of process before we get around to contact. If we different if we can repeat the process hurdle, then you won't have to do it again the second time. But we can do it either way.
It's overload and
we've well nevertheless, several meetings we've had this much discussion of process and this much discussion of content, which is exactly the opposite of what we should be doing. We're
now going to be doing is we're going to get processed into committees and once the committee brings a resolution to the board, and we'll deal with the resolution on the right kidney process, but my concern is if you will be running the risk this whole time the risk is concerned. You don't bring it back. Either of those
which time critical. I mean, they've both been different on several occasions and Okay, well, it's not over to
me sometimes. I can do because I need to get it over to here, no later than waist.
Trainer. How many times do you stand next
to me, right now. None of them exactly. We
should take care of. We should take care of all for them. Oh
Oh. Oh, so what are you saying is for Saturday's agenda. I
understand. Okay, so
what's your thoughts?
Well, I mean, it all sort of depends on how it plays out. Right? I've I've seen this waste a lot of time. Yeah.
That's stupid stuff so we can get it together. I'll just conclude by comparing both are going to send them to me or send me just were there any changes that you made since then? So they're pretty much as they were on that agenda, right?
Yeah, I mean, I'll resend them to make sure that you have the current version
of the dates and stuff. Because I think the dates were fine. So I
will I will resend you so you can be sure you have the NSF
approved coming up.
were brought to the body from committee. Yes.
All right. We don't have any presentations for the Saturday because we have more to work on the rules of engagement. And the code of our mission statement. We're supposed to have completed this part of it by this month, in terms of those strategic plans. The stuff that was supposed to be completed in first quarter of June. So we're going to work on those to make sure that everybody is onboarding properly for that they were going to send it out send it out again to everybody. When I send out the notice, you know this
dispersion is dated in March. There is there going to be a new version.
Yes. So once we have an opportunity to incorporate the feedback that we've gotten thus far.
Okay, so will we have a chance to review the newer version before Saturday's meeting?
Um, I doubt that it will be before Saturday's meeting because some of the feedback is pretty. So I can't I don't want to I don't want to promise that I had.
Okay. I guess my question is, are we going to be discussing a document that we know for a fact will be obsolete whether or not we discussed it?
So, as you all remember from the meeting, we're kind of a little behind the schedule, vilifying the mission to visions and departments. As a team, we're going to come right out. And also great positive recommendation. That that's what we're responsible for.
Right, that we're recommending new revisions based on the feedback that we collected,
but that won't be ready to check. That we'll be ready. That would be right. Okay. Yeah, absolutely. You just asked me if it would be ready before Saturday, like if you're Oh, okay. Sure. So I seeing it for the first time on Saturday, more or
less likely, yes.
Okay, is this gonna put it on the agenda for a work session, we're actually going to take the feedback, and then pull from the feedback, because you've already received the initial information last month, at both meetings last month, so and they sent it out. Yeah. And they sent it out via email, asking for feedback. So it's the feedback that we have to sign. Alright, so moving right along then. So for presentations, we'll be doing the work session. We have no pending or commission appointments, effectively, effectively. In your packet, you see all the way back to the bat. A neat email from in PGP Mr. Professional Russian if up is the dominating this doctor because Central Florida to fill the slot baby and vacated by Dorothy Hearst. acrp and immediately behind there, I don't know what I gave to you all last night. So I brought it to you today for your records. Miss hearse official resignation from the ACR. Effectively though she says there is down at the bottom of the last part of the paragraph. All the other stuff is information about why she's decided to retire. When she says my choice to leave is now her term for us as an April 14 was August, but she decided to go ahead and terminate. So right now you do have one nomination and as Dr. Concetta. cgamp in parentheses, and somebody else was calling me about that and I told him to get the information over to so we may have two people that are vying for that seemed to oversee this is acrp that is dark day was in such a rush. What about the other one that I still don't have any nominations for a through g I'm sorry, cheap through bail. So we have to work on that.
We really need that appointment. So we're in the community of
folks whose community is a pricey to be at the center of Campbell.
Everyone neighborhood art was really close.
All right, on the AIPAC voting roster, so that
was regarding notice of Dorothy's resignation. I know you've received one from Mr. Russia and you're talking about another one. did notice get out to those in your chairs directly? I
think she did. I'm gonna have to send something to them. She didn't she just sent it up, I'm assuming.
I'm just trying to figure out how when you found out to put someone else
forward, I can answer that.
If there had been communication so that everybody knew there was an opportunity or it just was somebody was paying attention and he was forgotten to record and put their name.
So what happened was Dorothy hers was removed from the site. And a couple of Saturdays ago there was a session in the GDP P r s anyway, and so it was like to be me and miss. Dr. Faye had already been issued and she asked about it previously. And it was already filled and she came back to me the reason was open now. I said no, it's not like the chair body hurts to like, have that side hustle removed. Now. And so I literally put in a phone call and ask once it's true, and she said yes. And then that's how so information.
But just to answer your question, though, Dr. Floyd has sent over her resume all requesting to be pointed to the A CRP and I've sent her a letter back letting her know that at that time that he she didn't look up that someone was in that slot, but should that slot become available? I asked me was she mine are keeping her resume on file and so then once you found out the dark, the hidden side then of course, Mr. Russian called me about it. But I guess I'll probably have to send something out to the MPs to notify them to give them an opportunity to submit another name this. And I have a question about that. And because Kyle is ultimately abandoned. So when we get nominations or recommendations for which year to appoint someone we have typically try to work on those with, you know, a couple of weeks or so at the next executive meeting or at the next board meeting and vote on if you would take a quick look at the last three pages, the packet that I think you should be. It shouldn't be a letter that email that came from somebody called ATL board watching y'all there's a picture writing behind all the back to back
all person have a name a field.
I have no idea
I have I think I have one is what happened picture and stuff. Madam
Chair. I would say that I think that this indication is hardly okay.
Let me just say this. All right. The reason I am giving this to you on is I don't know who ATL board watchdog complaint they sent this to the ethics officer. They sent it to me. The chair of NPU I Nicole was was never mentioned mentioned this Mr. Name about the band. And they console that is the Outreach Coordinator for the Beltline. And I don't know who ate him sticking on the amount of ideas, but they sent him to make them and they sent it to the ethics. Now, I'm not going into detail about what is right or wrong or bad. But he may have made a point to put the hurdles and the information that was down at the bottom of the photos that made me stop. may not have been may not be anything that we need to deal with. I'm waiting for Mason Soledad to give me a call I said I'll call him if he calls me. And since I was told I need to talk to you about this and then I think that's when I should probably discuss it. But I don't know the information here.
So I read the letter and the picture pictures do not convey wasn't and will I and I think me and Miss Gregg close in age when I take this license and post it on my social media but I mean this just my opinion for this loop is
true but here's the thing. That is not our decision to make. We appointed we made the appointment of Miss Graybill to acrp last few months are going to Bill Clinton and say we made the appointment last month. If you don't mind Tech has made that move using a call. That's not why I brought this to you I brought this to us to mentioned somebody else comes up about it. I understand because he she whoever these people are they send it to the ethics board and they send it to the Beltline. That's all but my concern is perhaps we are trying to push these appointments to things without doing our own due diligence. We take the resumes and we go on the chairs recommendation. But is that enough who's Mina and don't get me wrong? I'm not saying we should be making those kinds of judgments calls but I'm saying should we maybe before we request the states, we brushed appointments, even on our board, and the people didn't do anything.
I don't see where we rushed or rushing towards doing something outside of our normal process. We did it her chair recommended her glory and works with out on Lake Woods heights as well as up you recommended her city council board before. I mean, I'm talking about that specific process. I think that the process worked, and now we're hearing things right i mean i don't know if you want to add a measure where we put out a blast. I think it's a two week period. We're recommending this person to maybe use and then you know people want to reply to that they can, but I don't think that's necessary. But I don't think there's nothing wrong with our process.
What is our formal process? So
this is a we don't have one. Usually when I get a recommendation from a CIO, I immediately bring it to the executive committee, and then we bring it before the board at the next meeting. My question is, should it not be that we bring it to the executive committee, then we refer to the board and the board votes on it the next month as opposed to I'm not even sure if we're allowing is conscious indicating whether we're doing it right in terms of making sure that all of us know that these thoughts are.
So is this something that should be updated in our bylaws or in our policies?
Just my my thing was, I am just asking the question today to put it into your minds. You are to come back and tell us
more so like what are you trying to prevent what are you trying to solve for? That's what I'm gonna get the issue that because we still have openings left on TEDx, so that's the thing like, if somebody wants to be on the talent, there's still plenty of seats. So what is the actual thing that we're trying to solve?
I'm talking about our process, champion.
I agree. I think that although it's difficult sometimes to find these appoint mentor appointees, whatever they're called. I think there should maybe be a better process in vetting the nominations that do come forth. Rather, it's discussing it at least or I don't know, but I do think that we could or should have a better process for
do we need to set up an appointment committee that these people actually go before our appointment committee.
How many appointments do we have total for API? How many appointments do we have total for eight? Yeah, like how many do we have is the what's our number?
Yeah, this is quite a number. Some of these are not listed because they are not annual or whatever we get some that are becoming up that we only have to appoint people once every two or three years. Lower heads,
search a little while back and I think the number was 125 slots in the city.
That AIPAC has
been at large. 1000 was just 1125 that maybe were open at the time.
Maybe at the time. This also so
a lot of inactive. So
that that's Tuesday. But also during I was finding volunteers.
What is the problem? Well, no, and I said that right before you came in that that certainly is a challenge on its own, but I still want to understand how many do we have to the point where do we need a committee or do we need a process
I think that we should maybe suspended now. We already do national planning and that's one of the things that is a core function of a patent system and planets may be asked what TCP can give us our condition in this moment.
That's fine. I just want us to
evaluate our process. To tell us where we share the environment. outcomes within my Bibles. I think that we need to develop
bylaws or whatever but I kinda had to stop and think you know, we do try to push them through. But we don't get
to say it is possible that these pictures of a person to be appointed without regard president's doors.
Well, you're gonna judge people by standard we would never
take right. Yeah, was this could you imagine? I imagine pictures from last week.
I think that this is kind of irrelevant. Well, I'm not seeing
us to do anything.
Right. It's just more of a notification. Okay.
I hear something from the ethics department. Or Nathan's soldier. And of course, I haven't gotten back to you, and kind of not wanting to be something that you heard about, you know, and it didn't come. We received the email and I didn't share it with you. That's all this doesn't
make sense. But to your but to the greater point is I do think and agree that we need a better process when it comes to vetting these appointments or these nominations that are coming in to some degree
as far as our strategic planning is concerned.
Pretty inconsequential for
that not just Taylor, but I'm just saying
otherwise, you know, India, for that matter. All right.
Everything else here to discuss the APEC meeting balance on the agenda for Saturday, barely indicated and perhaps on July 13. setup allows me I don't know what the six o'clock your regular time and this one I think
tell me what you did. We got to get a meeting. We're here in July. For this reason this in blue says just Thursday, the 13th was a recommendation.
I mean, we're not going to get much notice before the 13th. I'm not sure if members can attend. I think given what we're discussing at the meeting on Saturday, it makes sense to have a meeting following that. So we can roll in whatever the recommendations or the thoughts of the journal bodies are, rather than meat in advance of that, and I'm not sure I'm not going to status update for you regarding what the law departments review looks like if that has been sent or any response has been received.
So you're saying that we need on the 15th So you're going to set up a meeting somewhere between the 17th and the 21st.
May I think it makes sense since we're talking about strategic planning and the purpose of a that once that is basically resolved if we presume there will be resolved on Saturday that then we can be after that and make any modifications and start to work. From that as our marching orders along with the change in election time and other things that have been put on agenda before
you want to shoot for 20 Thursday the 20th ever give us a week to get the notice out.
Let me check with the members and see if that works with that.
Put your chair on. I noticed not on this agenda, but I was wanting to put it out there. I was calling email. Me a combo by Miss Hawk about her becoming a voting member etc. I was not made aware of that until I was copied on by her. I don't know if you look into a Kyle.
Just a you know the numbers. Okay.
So I'm gonna read the responses. And so therefore it led me to go look at MBU C's bylaws and I I see where you put your response really coming from their dust is that my chair and our bylaws, it says that business appointed by the chair for their bylaws has a very specific requirements for the MPU delegate. And I don't know if that's what you're alluding to in the message, what are their what are the requirements where they have to be a voting member of their body of their body
also have to sit on
a committee committee has to appoint the executive committee is not their chair, and they have to be a member a voting member of the body, and then they have a whole definition about voting membership. That I'm pretty sure unless she hasn't moved
so maybe you could actually pull it up right now if you go to city planning and go to MP within the EU again,
I'm going to do that but just generally speaking, basically their their bylaws basically state that you need to live in that Imperial entity. Okay, yeah, that's is what
I don't think that's what they say but also to interpret an MP use bylaws for that it'd be due and
so my email to him was to ask him to please confirm that such an appointment and kind of follow us to the PU, C's vowels. Were more than
anything if I can time it. It seems to be a direct therapist and of the spirit of the ordinance. That spirit of the ordinance are those individuals who have first hand knowledge that conditions of the jurisdiction in which they live,
but that's how we allowed it to go on for me. That's how we've allowed it to go on for X amount of time. So I
understanding is that true? I was not aware of that. This is the first time I've been on the
unaware or aware right? I think it doesn't make you right.
It defies the very spirit of it was folks would have first hand knowledge of the jurisdictions in which they reside. Each jurisdiction is very different.
I don't agree with that. But also I mean, that's not that's not written anywhere
and you don't disagree. With that. That's the spirit of the ordinance.
I mean, I think that I think that an MPU is is represented by someone that's chosen by that MPU representative for whatever reason. And I mean, you know, Richard Richard rallies with an MPP and he's representing them for ages and
your graph
here we go. What's unravel? He's
here's where my concern just gets we are paying. If I like jewelry, and I want to appoint jewelry, to represent NPU see, I have 19,000 plus people in in PUC, people who live and work there every day struggling trying to make sure that their homes and things are protected. And then they're gonna look at me and say, I don't know 19,000 People, you could find one of us. You could come to one of us and ask us to represent this community. This NPU on a pair. People were looking at we just did a census and not one NPU with the exception I think of cue perhaps has less than what 10,000 people
but we've allowed this to go on for X amount of years. I'm not saying that my my question moreso is why why now Right? Like and and let me be clear, I am in agreeance. With this. I think that the person should represent the MPU however, I think it's interesting that now right with this particular it's it's it's it's the issue that we need to begin addressing and now other things also come out about other people that may or may not even live in their MP us. And it's just it's just interesting, and I think that that's the point that I'm making. It doesn't make it right. It's just very interesting timing. That is
why we are having your strategic planning sessions these things we need to discuss, and we need to make them like we've been doing stuff, just whatever the AICPA had wanted to do is what a fab D, okay.
This should mean at least an out in this fields, email. And say this isn't like okay, I was on this NPD last year. Now I'm healing Donald bend as an example. But he was a student at Morehouse. He was very active in a part of NPT when he moved back home to be notified of both and he became a member for the differences is that I think he said in the last eight months, there's been a representation for three dividend payers. We haven't had to stop them. But that is that isn't on sale. Complicated,
right? Well, however our bylaws allow for that. Right. Our bylaws allow for that correct. Issue don't allow for the fact that it doesn't allow or allow, it's just silent. Which means it needs to be addressed. It does. Many things need to be addressed in our bylaws that have allowed for many other things to happen, right? And so like this is not just one isolated incident. This has been coming for some time.
Well, this is where we are. The reason we're having to do the strategic planning, the mediations and whatever is because this stuff has been building up for some time. And starting back in March of last year. I began telling you all what the law departments say, get it together. Okay. And we drove our feet all last year did not come up one change to the bylaws, and we're still where we were last year. So now this stuff has to change. We have a plan in place, fundamental strategic plan, those things that need to be addressed. We're going to address them so it's one of those so
if you see the barrister No, I'm with you on
where does it stop? What does it stop?
I've been asking that question for a long time myself
if Derek green came and said what Miss Phillips I want to be appointed from your NPU green lives up in Dunwoody Okay, out but think about it, think about um, we don't have anything in writing that says you have to live in the MPU
we got some work to do.
That's what I'm telling you. We have to get it together.
So an MP you see, if you see writes back and says we're good to go, then how do we move forward here?
That's that's MPU C's issue. If they sit back saying they have good to go. If anybody of those 37,000 folks that are envious NPU challenge it. Then we have proof that he sent it to
us. But my question is why does someone who lives in one you want to go and be representative another?
I will answer the quote that question this way. I think when it comes to miss Hawk in particular, there has been a lot of different issues. Right. And so I think that it's very clear when it comes to what is trying to be achieved. And I think it's fair at the same time. I think that's neither here or there. Right? It's
part of the issue that my MP you may not send me back the ballot.
So I'm gonna land my plane by saying the bigger issue is the fact that there are members that were elected last year, right, that are not able to participate in the process. We won't go there right now. But that's the bigger issue that really leads to the results of our confusion that it truly and I said we don't need to go there, right. First one that's come up. I'm just saying it's a bigger issue.
To watch on this on this one talking 613
I have to leave to share my executive committee meeting. Is there anything else that you need from me before?
You did you you got to check with your
bylaws committee and see if that date works.
Thursday or Friday, whichever, you know, before the end of the week,
so we are not going to vote on any bylaws ministers this morning.
I would not recommend as such was the boy back.
I bring this up from a timing perspective because in November we're supposed to be having elections and the idea of having elections when we don't know who qualified candidates are seems problematic.
Well, one of those one of the things that we did talk about at length as it relates to the strategic planning session is that a pat needs to change his voting date. Again, we voted November some of the API used on voter took December. And we perhaps need to go back to when we were doing like in the I think in the beginning they were voting in February or January or something. But whatever.
Whatever the case that we are now walking up to the wind in terms of meeting I do something about the bylaws ahead of November.
Well that would be drawing up as Saturday's video as a part of the strategic
plan to volleyballs become effective immediately.
unless they say otherwise
common effective upon dividing by one partner.
So that means we have to get whatever changes we can make. We need to get them made quickly get them to the model.
To ask them we move into January when they be used for their accommodations, like some other substance where controversy did not respond to
me though that'll that'll kick the can down the road by two months, but then December is usually a wasted month anyway, so it's really only one month.
So are you saying that we perhaps something should be presented at Yes, something I mean, if it's not going to be July this July meeting then at the August meeting, some form of a bylaws amendment.
We're not going to have it at this meeting. We can vote in
office. Okay, so then so you. So you're saying the proposed amendments need to be introduced next month, then and then we'd be able to vote at the September meeting. Okay, that's the URL that's the earliest that we can make any changes?
Well, we've had one that's already been
introduced. We have some that's penny that's already been requirements. And we keep what which was that
that was that was one where we instituted a non voting membership.
Yes, we divide rejected. Okay. We have yet to vote on that.
No, no, it's been deferred competed.
Yeah, we voted we voted to vote on it. And that's,
I thought that was just substitute vote that we vote on who
was voting to vote.
So where is that right now?
That's why he made a motion to defer every month is different.
But like he just said they don't become effective into the law department. That's the end. The law department has made it very clear that there's no such thing as non voting members here. Okay. That made it clear where they were. That was, I don't know if you'll recognize that that Saturday that we had walked into the room that was because he knows where he went. He stated once I get my marching orders from the law department. Apparently there have been something that occurred 72 hours earlier in his office. He felt it was so troubling that he wanted to make a for what is it a in person appearance to say that
Mr. Green up, bring him up to date, you know, in the private conference,
we'd have to get that story. That's the best story. Okay. Um,
Terry is is Carrie still out of town.
I saw him last week. But he might be
okay. With me doing with
a paper that really fast. I talked to Jennifer Freeman. So the facebook and twitter account those are all turned over to AIPAC officially. So we can begin utilizing those channels to do they happen. They have been I have been working with Miss Jennifer Freeman. Yes. And we got some things done. They have been turned over officially soon. We can talk about all of the details a little bit but just know it's all been turned over to a PABX to be able to work the Facebook, the Twitter and also. Now the Instagram we had a great talk. She turned over to you or to cow well she turns it over to me directly but indirectly to AIPAC right. Because Instagram Yes, yes, yes. Yes. Yes. Nothing are called threads. Right. That's the new thing. So I update with that.
So is it all in conjunction with the Ben Norman and go to website or social media some
Yeah. So I get that but it's all of that good with the website is pretty simple. The website, the new website, right is ready to go. It's really us that have to just re vote on it and say let's go live. It's really just that simple with the new website. It's just a pair of the general body whatever we want to do, if we want to keep the current one as it is, so be it but the new website is ready to go. And it can be voted on and we can release it and all that kind of stuff. All right. Right now we're just using the main the one that the one that exists, that's there, the new one is in the background ready to go. Whenever we say go. Push
Commedia meetings. I have not received any reports. I will need committee reports no later than tomorrow afternoon. As I have to send this stuff for printing on no later than Wednesday morning. Okay. Committee dates and times. I know there is a big problem getting people so that's going to be one of those things that we will have to work on. Well, we talked about during our strategic planning because we have to come up with some better mental mechanisms because people are just not going to come out to all of these different meetings that we have. Okay, the neighborhood awards. What are we with this?
So I started working on getting that kicked off. I was working on something went to get a survey out to the body. And then I just kept not being able to get into I thought it was being confined in myself, so I'm still live. But airtable Which is what he was doing to deal with this now going away, so I have to work with him to get something also stablished
so what's the survey
to see who wants to be a part of it in terms of helping and also to ask answer the question. Are we doing one pretty penny or two?
Okay. We only have what $3,500 or something like that? I would think right now. We could just do one and we make sure because if we get all 25 or 23 of the NP use sitting in one day was pretty much spent most of our money that means your money for the food. Okay? So it looks
totally different because the linear
and what date is this
annual award we've been giving for years in February. He's not asking about that award until dug up in whatever way yeah.
All right. So you think that you'll be able to just to catch up to do a quick Microsoft article and just ask people to give us the names that they want to volunteer in what areas because you've only got about three areas that's the food, the setup, the you know, procurement and pickup up the awards and helping with the producing the program. So you got four categories and if you get four or five people in each category should be pretty much
like a lot of work that he's going to see that pretty much
wherever you go if I didn't do it by myself how to do it again. Okay. Let's take a quick look at Saturday's agenda. See we don't have a present day presentations. The resolutions are correct with Jim says that strategic planning
with the strategic planning is are we presenting this on to the general body on
this did you want me to provide the data we would have provided? I don't know when when that is on your agenda.
Okay. No, Saturday. So I think that's what you're providing. Because I had this sentence I think that you provided your report and all the
with all of the feedback is there something we need before that No.
Is there something that we need to review a solder this
we're not planning on providing things in advance of Saturday? Okay to review I think we need that whole time to pull the feedback together and make recommendations. Okay. Um, I just have a because I know remember the slides were super tiny. This is just like where we are in the timeline right now. Can we get these to you because I also think that is relevant for your bylaws. The commitments that you're talking about, because I just want to make sure that y'all are planning to have enough time on Saturday. Right, because it sounds like some things might be more critical than others in order
to screen out from for Saturday, you know,
I'm not sure but I have. So basically, this is the crunch of file handle that portion of
well, we have the next thing up is the committees and we still need to collect feedback about like the committee's work structure and all of that stuff. So that's, that's where we are in the implementation of somebody I'll talk about on February
so it's going to keep us on track a little bit to let us know where where we're supposed to be. Okay.
We were behind schedule because we started in June. And then to start in May.
So, I forgot to put the minutes how many minutes do you think normally this is 15 minutes for you to do the presentation and then they ask questions. Topics asking questions. I so are we gonna work session, so work session. We're not having anywhere in your presentation so we can do the work session.
So I think that we should work so I think that what we should do is your laptop for a presentation. And then there is the thought in terms of so we don't get stuck in rabbit holes that we say each member has two minutes to speak. Once your time is exhausted. You've had your fair share. Now we can we can put that on the agenda and adopt it that way. Or we can make a motion right before that such to say we all agree to follow that rule for that portion. Okay, so that makes a nice effect would it be time to speak and also we can deal with any questions that may arise so
it's like a presentation than a q&a or presentation than a discussion. Okay,
so you think you need 20 minutes you said
20 minutes of presentation. Wow, that of the total total? Okay. More than that. Oh, I'm 10 minutes.
Okay. And you'll be presenting this pretty much. Is this what you'll be presenting? Yes.
Is basically working through the timeline of the recommendations from the session that you did with their consultants and resulting, having from that place, concrete, whatever needs to be revised, as revised, whatever practices need to be adopted, are adopted working through that timeline. So right now we're on the mission and purpose which were slated for May in June and then the next grouping is like committees of board structure. So on I think, first
gatherings so what grown the first session,
that was the information where you got the code of conduct and then the mission and the purpose as we offer feedback on
it. Just these two so far, if you haven't missed anything, we're just this is as far as
the outcomes. First session that we have,
that is where we are in the process of delivering on your February session of strategy strategic planning session is revisiting the mission and purpose and the code of conduct that Leah drafted
for y'all. But I think you're right I think so far there was a group that was created to kind of come up with the the new mission here right to be presented this Saturday or it's already been shared, right. So at the last meeting, right,
right, the last board meeting, okay, we decided that we will all go into submit feedback up until July 7. Okay. GCP agreed to take that information sheet back
around, Understood, understood,
categorize whatever they did for us. This is what you can do. And then you're also going to give us what they recommend, understand the feedback and what the wording says and things of that nature. So we're going to do our session, we're supposed to making a decision on what is going to be our mission, what is going to be our vision, what do we agree is our purpose so we can move on to the next items on the student thing.
And so far, this is what we've agreed on will be presented.
No, that is what we gave you as a reference. The top there is what is existing in the code and then the bottom part is what's in your existing bylaws.
So nothing has been agreed upon in terms of integrating into the
playbook. No, that's what we're working on Saturday. I
understood. Thank you.
So there was one thing that I think has been causing this trouble for our last few weeks. And it occurred to me that it might make the agenda flow much more smoothly, if we will public comment up near the front. Instead of having a deadline. I do like the city council. Well, because we always should end up scrambling to get the public coming in at the end. All right. Well, we can
assess comments from elected officials. I can take that totally out
for public comment. Right behind me let the elected officials talk and let the public
Yeah, but I'm just saying what you want to do public comments. I don't want to do public comments before presentations because a lot of our presentations that gentleman department heads
so the Thank you Madam Chair. The open public comment is that we put on the agenda for public companies that comment so that we're making decisions based on whatever is on the agenda. We know that so it's okay to have a hedge or
something we can certainly deal with without a quorum which is quite often how we start the meeting. And if people roll in late then we don't have to listen to them because they like it.
So So are we saying here we're gonna replace this section. Comments from elected officials with public comments.
I think we're adding either before or after elected officials.
We never had any elected officials actually coming. Okay. committee chairs. I know that the issues of trying to find a location get people to come out
suppose we say we're not having committee meetings. We're having work sessions is still trying to get this done. Get this approved for virtually because the most of you most of the committee's don't have organs okay. So you don't have to worry about corpse as long as there's only one that What is it 12 and 13. We can't have we can't have us of us. So as long as they're to no more than 12 of our voting members present, it can be a virtual work session
or if you get around that just to be safe. We can continue to publicize as working groups and therefore because the thing is that we come in with some form, and we didn't publicize, that's what we should have.
Well, I only do it a tag is they send out send out a notice to everybody saying this is the time for the workgroup and date and time we can only have up to nine members. Once we reach nine, we have to cut it off. So if you like to 10 Let us know now and then as soon as we get nine, we'll send an email out to everybody that you know that
we've reached. I think one of our problems with a PAP is that too often we're looking for workarounds in short workarounds or shortcuts or we can't fulfill this so we're going to do this. I'm not in favor of this was my opinion to be a shortcut. I think what should perhaps happen is there's 50 People that are allowed to serve as committee chairs Correct? Isn't that the new non voting members and voting members? Okay, so that means as of right now, still 50 people or 75 people can serve as committee chairs Correct. Who can serve as quickly hook right now can serve as a committee chair
25 voting members because we have not filled it out. The
better answer to that is Madam President.
Okay. It was my understanding because
I will say one thing, the law department gave it to my family and we have pending bylaw changes and
what is the bylaws so we're in gray,
I thought that the bylaws allowed for alternates and delegates to be able to serve as committee chairs.
2020 2022 does okay. But our president is operating out of the director from the department saying that that wasn't validated.
So that what was invalidated those those by those bylaws were not validated. That section of the bylaws.
Bylaws have to be approved by the law department. That part of the bylaws kept us not to get approval. So right now we're in the process of redoing doing it the way they say they want us done, haven't done and that's putting them into
the template. Just to be clear, I understand just to be clear committee chairs for the Atlanta Planning Advisory Board to my understanding, both alternates and delegates were able and are currently able to serve as committee chairs. Am I incorrect? That has not been approved
is a bylaw or venue was structured as a bylaw amendment. The bylaws have not been approved by the Department so good amendment could not so then only your fob
even say who you pick from. It really started this all committee chairs are appointed by the President, essentially her cabinet okay. So we're going to start things off. She says that she's not going to pick out an assembly file and go to the file. That's her prerogative. Sure. It says they are appointed by the president
understanding extension.
It's not even her prerogative. Right. The city law department is rejecting that portion. of our class.
So what I should be now understanding is that the only people that can so
they have not approved are bottom off, right because they get this push back on the delegates and ultimately that was per the law.
So the law department has not the law I want to have under the law department has not approved which bylaws quickly which which bylaws have they not? So so of course so then according so right now according to the law department, which bylaws does AIPAC operate by, not as an approved fo gainer about
their position appears to be this we have never had Bible
I've never had bylaws. Okay, so that's
understood. They never approved them. I don't know why the last week so
So then with that but since they've never sold a pair of then is right now acting or your which bylaws have we decided that we are currently using despite the law department which bylaws have we decided that we are using
effectively none that's why we're doing this session is Mr. Sharp so that we can get some final decisions on our procedures and policies and final decisions on our bylaws so we can put these bylaws into the form of the template. I can get them to the law department and get approval so we can get on about
and I wasn't trying to get into a biological what I really was trying to get out is if there were in theory 50 people or members non voting voting members that could be committee chairs, why wouldn't we just send out a solicitation to them in particular saying hey, we need these committee chairs to be filled. Are you willing to step up? Why not?
Because remember back in March of last year, the law department sent over to us that we had to change we had to amend our bylaws. According to them. There were only 25 voting members. A BAP could have as many non voting members as it wanted. The city of we recognize the voting members until we get our bylaws straightened out and in order. They are not meant
to that end there are only really pushing back on that one section. There has been no derogation of any other session we've been doing business as usual. That is the only seven
we've been doing business as usual business as usual has allowed for non voting members. Delegates and alternates to serve as chairs.
me just say this and like this is the only office that is required to be about voting membership according to the ordinance is our chair. Right. What was it? The only office that we are required to have from our voting body is the chair. That's what's in our desks. That is it. So the other stuff that we're trying to figure out, it really is up to us, right? And we need to figure it out. But but so the thing is, that's really what you're doing, and I wanted to put that energy into the work session,
then the group that figures it out is the 25 voting members. ordinates only speaks to one officer, but the 25 voting members can figure out whether there are additional officers. That is a reasonable interpretation, but these folks are doing what they call a strict scrutiny. Of that ordinance and they're strict scrutiny says 25 voting members no matter how you cut it, you can call them representatives, etc, etc. This is the voice of the authority, that strict scrutiny up until now that they've been paying attention to.
Okay let's let's move on with training you got to meet me so we're trying to work this out quickly. Committees here, existing the measures, come back to me you'll have to do it today. Come back to me and let me know what your thoughts are on trying to do is work work sessions. Or work groups so that you can do it virtually nine times out of 10 You're not going to have 12 or 13 of our members present. And that way you can
I would tell the audience that if that isn't the case whatever comes out of there required a second
meeting and that's okay. That's okay. As long as we can get some work done right now. We don't need to make that choice.
But so so the question then becomes, again, that we've had some very bizarre discussions of process recently. And if we create ambiguity in terms of process divorce, that could get worse.
That's fine. But I'm just saying I'm throwing it out there for you all to come. Back and keeping your dog specimen,
you know, work sessions and
you know, they sent these to die. They do that's an American. There's some that have died. I think a lot of them will consider from a government where they figure out the committee, and then when they come for the body. It's just a formality.
All right. Speaking of community committees, are you still interested? Is Michigan
All right, wait, we're trying to vote on the mission and purpose on Saturday, but not the mission and purpose that I'm seeing in front of me here. My first time on Saturday, we want to vote on that on Saturday. Okay.
Okay. Okay. Okay, but who has seen it? Who has seen it before the set but this is before this Saturday. So but
your brain right but what I will say to that is that we have a whole session on that. And then we also had two weeks when we discussed this shore and those two meetings, everybody kept kicking the can around. So then we said okay, DCP come recommendations.
So DCP is going to come in present.
So after we submitted feedback, and how do you think this is okay? I do all right, because we literally working for months. How many responses I get five,
I will say this I don't miss a lot, right. I don't miss a lot. I somehow missed being able to provide some type of feedback. Maybe for different reasons, but I want to be clear that no and I'm not joking around on this one. I have missed this opportunity seemingly to present feedback or to see whatever drafts have actually been done. So this Saturday will be my first time seeing anything to do
the lab. Test three executive board.
Did we did we did we discuss it? Yes. Okay.
Mr. Hunter, has indicated that he would like to be the chair of the utilities committee. And yeah, just letting everybody know, indicated that he wanted to be the chair of the utilities committee. So that would give us a couple of things. We just need a public safety committee chair and I'm not even certain that we need an education committee. I'm gonna need your thoughts on that. We don't have to have it right now
at some point when we have dealt with the major issues with our bylaws, it'd be worth revisiting the entire committee structure.
Well, that's what we've posted. Next up is it
seems pretty clear to me that we could use an event planning committee but we do need
an education, because education is tied to so much in terms of democratic terms of quality of life. Studies have shown that just the ones the studies have shown that most of them before this last staffer, she put in the word she's really in terms of poverty, and people live for three generations in less than a five mile radius, and nobody can read.
I would much rather see ch cdhs split from zoning and land use and let's you know what I mean? And see cdhs take on education more so doesn't make two different things. Is it now I would like how was it went before how was it curious? How is it completely two different things community development, and Human Service and Human Services? How is it just so different from education?
Well, first of all, a PAP does not have a definition. It's education's purpose. We never had. So we had people that were doing education because they were teachers or worked in the educational system. And they focused on those issues that were key and primary to them. A path is an over site. Okay. We're oversight advisory education there to me, should be there looking out education committee is looking at the fact that they are planning to terminate the contract of the current superintendent. What do you just saying these these?
I think that we have to look at education and how it impacts our city.
Exactly. But it's in how are we going to communicate these things and resolutions to this we don't communicate with APS. That's not what we're legislated to do. We're legislated to communicate with the city. So by having an education committee, let's say we do introduce a resolution. Where are we sending that to city council and if we are which committee are we sending that to? Exactly.
I actually think that as we need to show up in terms of loving one that we need to we need to identify the scope of every command but we can say and it will they could fit on any cdhs I will say this is the only place it really literally legislation. I believe Councilman famous old Kenyatta is working on getting established the Youth Commission. So there will be things that can be done and we should have a pulse on because I think that they will do it into this time. They want to present them every single if that if we do that every or every council district will have someone on that I will make a mess but I have resigned as the parliamentarian, but I will continue to serve as a delegate to you
please I have to get another parliamentarian. Want to tell them why? All right. I'm just asking is this I'm just saying What Are the rumors true
about me, so I've taken a job with the city okay.
And our guys last night queer, have always said that an employee of the city of Atlanta can not be an officer. Understand why. ethical and legal ramifications can be significant. So it immediately cart that he chose goodbye as our parliamentarian, but you still can actually be excused. All right. Have any questions about any announcements, additional announcements
okay, if not been good I can emotion that I'm a German we've been looking for I never felt like you so much. Another
email that I sent out on Thursday, I wanted your email
suggest the tweet viability numbers. It gets a little complicated with Lorena because we are not voting members. Yes, although we're officers or score we were elected that's where many of the issues you've probably heard about come in. So okay, we're very often if not always left off of these emails. Okay. And will sometimes CC floor and I Okay, but she won't include us in the two and if you ever notice when we're sitting there, Laura and I have to sit off to the side right, even though again, we are elected officers. That's a part of this guy. So that's why I'm very clear. I'm not I have been left out of this process for as I said when I'm speaking different reasons, but actually I have not been in this process. Okay. This is to be clear, so my NPU has because Kyle is the voting member or the delegate if we're using the current language for my MPU MPU M as in Mary. I'm the alternative. But since we've recently kind of shifted and done some different things we're now only internally here we're referring to delegates as a voting member and alternates are the non voting members who were only sending things to the voting members. Which to be clear creates a problem because all of the MPU isn't being informed of what's happening. Kyle received that got Kyle did not send that to me. Okay, so our ignore to our NPU as a whole. So we're talking about all the changes things what I'm saying is because Laura and I are not considered voting members, we're left off of a lot of emails since the switch. Now emails are only being sent to those 25 voting members. Laura and I are sometimes CC on there, but the bulk of the things we are we don't see it because it's being sent just to the voting members. And so this process of updating the mission or purpose and everyone supposed to be involved in seeing it, I did not see it. And Cloud and call did not send that to me either. And that's what happens a lot. Just with our MPs in general is the chairs will very often get information. But as a chair, if you're very busy that information, a lot of times is not disseminated to the neighborhood associations very often is it not disseminated to the neighborhood associations and that's one of the issues with just having the chair disseminate information or not having the altered my view that may be some I'm going to
say that's the kind of information you need to be interested in bringing it back to a path if the chair is not disseminating information there wherever missing our duties by not
by working with charities.
They need to get this stuff out.
Understand again, there's no real processes to it right so sometimes I NPM for instance, we are chair at MPU and that email so when things are sent just there, they only go to the chair, for instance, how it should be set up to ensure that more people or at least the entire executive board is receiving that information and not just relying on the president or the chair is there should every MP you should have a general NPS inbox that is set up and this should be more of a standard practice where DCP is sending information directly to that inbox and that inbox should be accessible to the MPU board. That's currently not a standardized across the NP use many interviews as I just said, just the chair is getting that information and solely the chair is responsible for disseminating it and if the chair does not share that with the rest of the board, no one will see it but the chair
I will say with this though I think that I think you just took a little vacation because we actually signed up the initial first thing we did for this or if we signed up at a meeting and everybody signed up.
I'll be clear about what happened at that meeting. I was off to the side and that signup sheet did go around and I did put my name on that signup sheet. When that official signup sheet came around, my name was not on there. So again, this goes back to being a little bit further when you have two people that were elected off to the side and I'll repeat myself. That sign in sheet that went around was not circulated across the entire room. Exactly It never got over to Lauren I off to the side my name was my I did not I did not receive that sheet that you sent around that day. Part of the reason I did not receive that was because whatever setup we had, I was not included in that setup.
So I'm gonna assign the sheet
I'm going to notice I missed
the link for the meeting and she was I sent it to her and she was there so
I guess I guess I checked out that day, right?
No, I said, No, we're setting up as work sessions to work session
