Yeah, in state licensing board meetings, it's, it's, it's a large swing, um, so be prepared for that. If you have, you know, if you attend these meetings and then go to a state licensing board meeting in your own state, people have very different attitudes, which brings me to one of the reasons I know this is because I have attended a lot of Delaware State Licensing Board meetings. And I wanted to touch on this really briefly, because we said at the top of the episode that the CCC is not going to be required, right? But we still have these four outstanding states that require the CCC for initial licensure. Only. Virginia has some legislation. They have some proposals on the table to remove that requirement. That was one of the states that was thinking about removing that CCC requirement quite some time ago, but they held off because they wanted to see what was happening with the compact. So we had a call to action where people wrote in with their public comment on their website. I haven't followed up to see what has come of that, but and so now that's prompting me to see that I probably should, but this was a proposal by the State Board for their own license, so I can't imagine why it wouldn't happen. I read all of the public comments. They were largely in support of removing the CCC for initial application. And the couple that weren't, you could tell that they had not actually read what it said, so some of their responses didn't even make sense. So anyway, if you are in one of those four states, you will still have to get the CCC when you apply for your state license, for your home license, but in none of those states are is the CCC required to maintain your state license, which means if you don't have the CCC, you will not have to have it to take advantage. Much of the privilege in those states, because once you're licensed, you can apply for the privilege. So and there was some outstanding question about Delaware, this is how I got even more deeply into this topic. Because Delaware, if you've been following us, right before Fix SLP started four days before Fix SLP made its very first post. Delaware passed a law that you had to have the CCC in Delaware to practice. And so our team, we have, like a mighty little team of Delaware SLPs, who are on top of this. They're in the meetings, and they have successfully been able to influence the board to clarify and change that you will not need the CCC on an ongoing basis. And part of that argument that we put forward was the CCC can't and won't be a part of this compact, and so you've already signed into the compact saying that people from other states can take advantage of the Compact. People are dropping their CCCS. So you are a state that is surrounded by a bunch of other states where the CCC is not going to be required. So theoretically, you would be requiring the CCC of your own practitioners, but allowing people from outside of the state and not having practice in your state without the CCC through their license, because this is a reciprocity through license and your requirement there is only for your license, an outsider would not have to follow that rule. And I think that was an oh shit moment for them. Yeah, truly, because now we have the problem of, will people move? Because it's going to be more expensive to practice in the state of Delaware, if you do this, people could just move over the state line, live in a state that's in the compact, and then take advantage of the compact to work in your state. You could theoretically lose clinicians in your state over this, or at least Delaware residents. And I mean, that's a big people are like, picking up and moving, but when it comes to people moving to the east coast, certainly you're looking at cost of living and all of those things as you're making those decisions. And so yeah, so they have defined it is not official yet. It's it's back in revision, and they're going to talk about it in the April meeting again, and I think there will be a vote, an official vote coming up very soon. I think it has to go up for public comment one more time, even just a few more weeks, because they've made these revisions to clarify that you do not need the CCC to maintain a license in Delaware. So again, public vote or public comment, then they'll take a vote if they don't make any other substantial changes. But that's why I have been so deeply invested in this topic. Was because we were we were trying to make sure that Delaware wasn't going backwards and it, and they did. They have done the right thing again. It's not official, but they have to maintain that CCC at application, because that is the law, and they've been like that anyway. So it's nothing new, but I just want to clarify that that these states that that are requiring it for initial licensure, four, hopefully three soon. Um, it won't apply to this compact at all. And I have also confirmed that verbally. So you said, Candace, you can, you can attend the compact meetings, but you also have compact representatives in your state, yep, and you can find it on their website, yeah, yeah. You can find that on their website. And I will mention there that the information that these people have ranges broadly. So when we are in these meetings, what it's like five or six or seven people? It's not like these interstate compact representatives are in any of these meetings ever. I'm not even sure where they get their information. Do you know Candace?