Chris Harrison- MLM
10:58AM Feb 6, 2020
growing a business or growing a network marketing business is like any other kind of business. It's not easy. You know, so when you know when when people come up against hurdles, sadly if they haven't gone through that personal development journey, they can fall away very, very quickly.
Hey guys, it's Mike from Make Time Online and today we're joined by Chris Harrison, who is an Arbonne network marketing consultant. So today we are joined by Chris and he has been working as a Arbonne consultant, which is a network marketing multi level marketing
company, which is based in
lots of countries around the world. But Chris is from the UK and he's been doing it for the last Six years. He was basically originally in it before he got into this. And it's just for him is completely changed his life. And I think it's such an important message that he gives throughout the whole podcast and I will chat as you're here soon enough that it's just that so is a vehicle for people to live life in a way that they'd like to live it. It doesn't mean it necessarily has to be. You know, it doesn't have to be our bond that does this for you. But he has found a vehicle which has helped him and his wife and his family to live their life in a certain way. And I just think it's so important like in today's information age, to actually be able to use some form of vehicle or a side hustle or something where it could potentially transform the way that your life looks into the way that you want it to look doesn't mean You have to earn millions of pounds or dollars, you know, it could just be that you get to work from home, it could just be that you get to have an extra holiday year, whatever it is that you really want for yourself, for your family, what you want your life to look like. There are so many different ways to do it. And Chris is going to kind of walk us through His story, how he got involved and why he was so sceptical at first and what our bond has done for him and his family. I hope you enjoy it guys. So
Chris, can you
say what it was like speaking in front of thousands of people in it was in Vegas, wasn't it?
yet? No. No, it wasn't it was in Birmingham. I was not as not not not at the Vegas level yet, but I will be I will be right that's been to Vegas as well with
Yeah, that's right. Yeah, I've been properly This is gonna be so we're going in April, it'll be my sixth or seventh sixth or seventh time now, going for our global conference. 20,000 people it's ridiculous. But yeah, speaking in front of our UK like the UK business, it was it was. It was just incredible. Yeah. Yeah. It was just something that I think when I, you know, in my career and things like that I got to get so nervous being on a slide to fight to stand up and speak in front of, you know, Board of board of directors of a company, like in a career that I'd been in for 17 years. I put myself like, I'd be sweating. I'd be red, I'd be stammering but everything that I done kind of to lead up to that point. was just excited. It was excitement. Like, don't get me wrong. I was a little bit nervous, like two and a half thousand people. Right? And you know, you've done your work, you prepping your practice, but then actually, when you're there in the moment and you're getting miked up I was a bit like right What did Tony What did it buddy Tony Robbins.
He does start young. He does all this sort of stuff to get his energy high. And I was doing all that kind of stuff. But it was still a little bit like squeaky bum time. Oh, yeah, I can imagine it was just possibly,
I think it's just one of those things, isn't it where, like you say, I think you, you kind of have this idea of what it will be like or something. But until you're actually there, it's just must be completely different, you know, actually standing on the stage. It just is exactly.
Because you visualise it you do like when you're doing you're practising and even though you're a home practice, and you kind of close your eyes and you you imagine what it might be like but then when you're there and you see the stage and you see everyone out there, you've been set, you've sat through other people training already, you're thinking Damn, these guys are good. So I've now got to be on their level and it's just an incredible feeling. And I think it's like, when you're when you're so passionate about something, and that's what you're speaking about. It just makes it so much easier.
Yeah, hundred percent. When you know what your Talking about is like, yeah, yeah.
Yeah. Because that's the thing. When it comes to public speaking most people say that died in public speak. And I think that's probably because most people haven't found something that they're passionate enough about yet that they want to talk about, and they want to help inspire others. So
what was it? Was it kind of like you just kind of giving a speech a talk? Or was it where the questions and answers or what was it that, you know,
kind of that that was basically, it was called like an ice story, right? It's me talking about a bit about my background, where I've come from how I got introduced to the business. And then basically how I then kind of grew the business to the size that I grown it to, and the holiday incentive trips I don't so it's basically giving people a bit of, you know, guidance so they can go well if he can do it. So can I
yeah, now I think your story is pretty amazing as well. No, I just kind of like we were just saying before, before we start recording I just know from social media
You kind of just feel like I know everything about where
But I'm obviously so well, how did you actually how did you start? When did you start it with album?
Yeah, so basically my wife got introduced first. So she got introduced to the business by her best friend. And that's typically how the world of network marketing works, right? It's done through word of mouth. So literally, she got introduced by her best friend went along to hear all about it came back all excited after this business launches, it was tried to explain it to me did very badly, like me, and I kind of rolled my eyes. My ego took over and I was like, Look, I'm gonna support you. But you know, I've got a successful career. I'm involved in property investing. I'm not going to look at anything like that because I've never heard of it. So it can't be any good, right? That was my initial impression. And then, you know, it was a year of me supporting her and her going out and growing a business and she developed and changed and grew as a person. So I was like, Well, whatever this thing is she's doing. It's good, because she's growing and changing and her. So my wife's background was in the Met police in child protection. So she was dealing with some nasty situations. And because of that, it had quite a big knock on effect to her emotionally. So actually, to see her come out of that, and to be a much more positive person that was brilliant. So whatever it is crack on. And then, about a year later, she was heavily pregnant with our first kiddy Oscar, he's now coming up six. And yeah, yeah. And there was this big meeting she wanted to go to and I was like, What and it was up in Leeds and we live Northamptonshire. So I was like, well, I'll drive you up there, you know, supportive husband that I am. You really want to go, I'll take you. And it was the first time I'd actually taken the time to understand and Six through actually what the business concept was. I knew the business that she was growing with our bond was with products. But my background wasn't product. So it wasn't really something that I initially was drawn to. And it was somebody else talking about the business. And I think that was the key thing for me, right? I think sometimes as partners were supportive, but we don't often listen. Yeah. Right. So this guy, and this was the other thing, you know, our buddies, a product based business, but this is a guy who's extremely successful with a background in property investing in developing, which was kind of I thought, well, this is going to be my way out my job property. But he was very successful in that already. And he was very successful in our bond. Right? So I was like, Well, why on earth are you doing this? You're living the life that I want to create some property, but you're doing this as well. Like, what is? So I kind of just had to listen with an open mind, really. And I think that was the thing that I hadn't done up to that point.
Yeah, thanks. And the concept Do you think there was something like during that which just triggered something? In the in you where you realise it? Yeah, no, it's something that, you know, it is something that people do. And this is an actual legit thing because I think that's probably Yeah, that's probably the most common thing I hear when people here with like multi level marketing or network marketing. Yeah, just straight away thing. scam pyramid scheme, you know, like, yes, the first thing that people that springs to mind but yet was it for you that kind of triggered that made you realise I know, this is this is legit, like, you know, it's a natural thing.
Yeah. Do you know what I think it was because the way that it was explained to me was in such a way because this guy who was doing this big presentation, right, his background was property. So he explained it in a way that my mind was already set to understand things. So he was talking about expenses and liabilities and the for the fact that, you know, all of these products that we have available to us, we've all We spent money on but we've given that money to retail. So we've given him to boot Superdrug House of Fraser Harrods wherever we're buying that stuff from it was an expense, and we'd never get any money back from that. And then he explained about the fact of when you actually look at it in in this kind of business concept whereby you just cut out the middleman and you then turn the expense into a liability, sorry, that expense into an income producing assets. Because you're you're placing orders to your own business, not giving your money to somebody else. And I read Rich Dad, Poor Dad, I'm sure you have and, you know, I don't know what is that book or one of Robert Kiyosaki. He's other ones, but I just remember him saying if you can turn an expense into an income, it's basically magic. Yeah, right. Obviously, yeah, well, he's exact words, but how I understood that and when, and when this guy explained it in that way. I was like, This is what Robert Kiyosaki was talking about. So then I started doing my own kind of research and that's the thing that I would recommend every doing, you know, because because like you just said, I think typically if we haven't heard of something properly or haven't got a personal experience of something, we're often automatically drawn to a negative opinion. You know, my sister's dog used to do it and it didn't work, right. So how we look at things, right, but as soon as I got my hook into it, I was like, I want to do my research into this. And I looked into the fact that Richard Branson had a network marketing business. You know, Warren Buffett had a network marketing. Clearly they owned these businesses. I was
just gonna ask that.
They own the business network marketing businesses. Yeah,
I know. Richard Branson did.
Yeah. So Richard Branson had a company. Not anymore, but it's called something by V or something like that. related to Virgin and everything is bright. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So that was relating to that Warren Buffett. He bought What was it cold call, remember, but basically it was one of his brands, one of his businesses, and he said it was one of the most successful businesses and that you'd ever been involved with. Yeah. Tony Robbins is a massive advocate of network marketing. Les Brown talks about it all the time, Jim Rome, you know, I mean, these incredible business people and entrepreneurs. They're all endorsing the profession. So I was like, Well, if they're saying it's pretty good, yeah. I've got to look into it. And I've got to understand it more. Yeah. And as soon as I did the research in the right places, that was when I just kind of realised, well, it is just it is a legitimate business model. And that's basically what it is. It's just a distribution system. It's a way of getting products or service, like my business is product based, but there's service companies out there as well. It's a way of getting your product or service to an end consumer without having to pay for a very expensive retail process. No change. Yes. It's kind
of like a is kind of like a win win, isn't it when you think about it, because obviously, like, the actual company itself kind of saves money from advertising costs and marketing. And then everyday people have this opportunity to create a full time income basically from from doing doing that work and stuff. But obviously, there are, there's so many, like, there's still so many concerns that a lot of people have, and I kinda want to get to that a little bit later. But yeah, but like, Can you just kind of explain a little bit of like, what day to day life looks like for you? as a as a?
Yeah, definitely. So I suppose now it's quite different to how it was at the start of my business because obviously when you start anything, right, you speak to your nearest and dearest only, you know, you want to get approval, you want to get, you know, support from those people around you. So you speak to those people about what you're doing. Yeah. Because the way that I kind of look at this is it's kinda like a winning lottery ticket and you can share it with people. You know whether those people then decide to use those numbers and buy their own ticket. That's up to them, isn't it? But you've done your bit in sharing it. So initially it's basically you becoming a professional inviter. Right? Right? You invite people to take a look at what you know you aren't doing. So my day to day is basically kind of connecting with new people and making new friends. And that can be done in person if I'm at a coffee shop and I get chatting to somebody. Typically the first thing you ever asked us what was it you do a standard question you ask and luckily we most people like explaining if they don't like doing something you know like this or Yeah, I do I do this but I you know, I don't get enough holidays. I don't get enough pay or I work too hard or whatever. So you can quickly get to a point where where you're in a position of kind of understanding a bit about someone's why like why they might be open to Something different.
Yeah. And so like, obviously, what is so many benefits to it? And obviously I see it from from you all the time. But it's typically benefits for people that have kind of like been in the business for a while and like started to actually build sort of started to scale and stuff. But like, Can you just I know some of the some of them already, but can you just like explain a few of like, the benefits and some of your favourite things since you started our bond?
Yeah, Jen, and you know what there are? I think the best things are the things that aren't tangible. You know, the person that I've grown into because of personal development, which I never used to do like after school until I started my business. I didn't read a book watch as a lie. I read Lord of the Rings.
Jani read Harry Potter.
I had no concept of personal development and when you start a network marketing business, so when you start a business now but you're encouraged to develop and grow because you have to because We're coming from being an employee to a business owner. So you have to change, you have to grow. So the person that I am now is far different to how I was six years ago. So that is one of the things that I love most the community of people that I get to spend my time with. You know, I'm sure you'll totally agree that when you're looking to, you know, progress forward in life, and you know, grow something out of life that you haven't yet got right now you want to be around people that are there already. You want to be around positive, open minded people who champion everyone. Yeah. So being part of that community is incredible, because in everyday life, most people all they want to do is moan about what they haven't got, yeah. But not willing to put in the work to get it. So actually being part of a community that actually supports you and everything that you're doing that is massive. And actually, like we live in a world where we're so connected because of social media and all of those platforms that are out there. But the reality is it believe that most people are so unconnected in their real lives with people.
Yeah, no, I think it's it's like this whole facade, isn't it? Social media is just yeah. Funnily enough, actually, my wife and I were just kind of talking about it earlier, just saying how
we just saw a picture when I
remember that day, that was a really crap day. And it's like a picture of us smiling.
It just is so different. It was i that is not what was happening that day at all. Whereas no one knows that. And it was like, you know, that's us. So you just think how many times that happens, like around on different things, but obviously, that that's something that I've noticed with you as well, is that you just share so much on social media and like, bad things as well. You know, like, it's not always it's just life. You know? I think that's a really cool thing is I'd like to know is that kind of something that you get taught a little bit with the business or like people help you to progress with like, do you get support things for
Yeah, because it because everything that you need to have to grow a successful business is just a skill. And it's a skill that can be taught and it's a skill it can be learned, right? Like if you look at my cell it I love memories on Facebook because some of the stuff I used to post if other people saw it now I would have a heart attack. Obviously you grow and you change anyway, don't you? So the things that you do the things that you share completely changes but but yes, like we coach and mentor people like and this is what I loved about the way the business grows, because, you know, let's say my property world, I had to spend 10s of thousands of pounds to get a mentor. Let's be taught how to do this. Within a network marketing business with an Arbonne you haven't got to pay anybody to teach you coach you met a mentor you you've got a step by step system that you follow, to be successful at it. And as long as you follow that step system consistently over a long enough period Time your business will grow. So every single thing is all about a learning process. So yesterday we had a training day for our for our nation, you know, our team or wider team. And yet there was somebody speaking about, you know, mindset. Someone speaking about a couple of people speaking about their journey, how they've gone from where they were to where they are now. And then another lady exact, you just said there who is incredible on social media, and she's teaching and training you how to serve people, because that's what it comes down to. It's about service. Because if you can serve people and offer great content that is going to help people. That's when you're going to gain a following. That's when you're going to gain interest in what it is that you're doing. And all of that is just the skill.
Yeah. Now hundred percent and so like that kind of you said it was training that you went through yesterday. Yeah. So is it like is that just kind of part of our we're just part of being so if say someone was to join It now was a trading next week they could just go to that night they're like what is it kind of like all over the UK or so like
yes everyone six countries it happens globally. So here here in the UK we have an online web call every Monday night, which is a training call. Probably every quarter we have a day like we had yesterday which is an all day training then we've got corporate training events as well which probably happened every three months and it's all kind of spread out throughout the year. So there's online and in person trainings that you can go to because online is great right because you can do it at home around whatever else you got going on. But there's nothing like being belly belly to people know you know being there in person feeling the atmosphere and you taking it in that way right? If you're emotionally charged, you can take in that information so much better
eyes is so different, isn't it? I think we went to the same like property course years ago. And that is that sort of thing, isn't it? Where? Because we because we were sort of like international week. We kind of got like a half half package. So we did some face to face and some online. And it was just like it. It was not even
the same thing. You know, like, it's not it's not you can't even compare it like being face to face or being live and, and everything like is good having online stuff, it gives you the knowledge and stuff, but it doesn't give you that sort of motivation and like the momentum and things like that, because it so I think that is a huge thing. And so how often
are the live ones? So they're probably every quarter I would say, right? Yeah. Yeah, every quarter, but then obviously, when, when you join someone in in sort of so somebody joined my business. I'm their coach, their mentor, so I'm like, I'm talking to them daily. Yeah. You know, if they're local to me, I'm in front of them as much as possible. Yeah, obviously, when they're further afield, you know, if they're, if they're in one of the other countries, it's mainly done. If they're in another part of the country, you know, most of the stuff will do on photo or web calls. But then when we're launching their business, everything's still done in person. Because again, it's about You know, building a relationship with those people, because a lot of the people that I'm now talking to the people that I've just, you know, met out and about or online. So it's about building that relationship building that trust with those people that you've got their best interests at heart. No, because what happened? Yeah, because what because what I love about kind of the way the album works, the way network marketing works is, you know, rising tide floats all boats, you know, it's in my best interest to help somebody else to grow their businesses successful as they want to grow it, because that in turn helps me as well.
Yeah, no, it's I think that the whole principle behind it is it's such a good idea you know, it is yeah, there's there's no way that anyone can argue people helping people is a bad idea and no way Yeah, can argue, like, personal development and all of those kind of things. I just think was so so good. Yeah. But I think what you kind of just touched on a point there actually, where there's there's a few like common concerns that I think most people have been They're jumpin, and you probably know them so well. You probably, yeah, you probably had them. And you probably kind of get lost those sort of things all the time. So the one that you just kind of touched on there, which so many people is a big thing for is like, who you actually join up with, you know, in like your team, your mentor, like you say, you chat to people on a day to day basis, but there will be a lot of people that will be in a full time job still. And so they might not be able to give the support and help that someone like you would. So have you got any advice? Or is there something that people can do when they are looking to actually join?
Jen, do you know what it comes down to the way that kind of network marketing works best is only ever really a part time business. So obviously, when I started my Arbonne business, I had a full time job, you know, 60 hours a week, full time job. I was also you know, growing my property business, I had a property has a property portfolio that was growing and my wife was literally about to give birth. So I had a newborn son, Mike the first like us as a couple, we're having our first child together. So, you know, time wasn't an abundance back then. And it never is for people typically when they're getting started with with a network marketing brand, because you're doing it as a plan B, or potentially a Plan C, right. So you're doing it in the nooks and crannies of your time. So it's not about having a huge amount of time. But it's just about being very clever with the time that you've got. And the reality is, I think, sometimes people have that concern of, I don't want to speak to my friends or my family, you know, I don't want to bug people and, and unfortunately, there are a lot of brands and people that have gone about things in the wrong way. Yeah. Which which is why the potential stigma is there. So it's up to us as the experience people to show them how it's done properly, and to show them how not to be like that. But also, it's understanding What they mean by that? Because, again, it's about saying, Well, okay, you know, you fall in love with a brand you fall in love with a set of products or whatever it might be. Other people are going to do the same thing as well. Now, once they've tried them and experience them, and then once they've on the business side, once they've seen that they could potentially create supplementary income which could grow to be complete life changing if they put in the work and the effort. It's just about giving them that message, and letting them decide if it's for them or not. Yeah. So it's not about having like millions of people personally, it's not about knowing thousands of people personally, it's about knowing a few key people. And you might have to talk to you Do you have to talk to a lots of people to find those few key ones who are going to be like you like who are going to be that leader who are going to who's going to have the courage to push through when the going gets tough, because that's I think sometimes you know what, perhaps people don't explain enough is that growing a business or growing the network marketing business is like any The other kind of business is not easy. Yeah, you know, so when, you know, when when people come up against hurdles, sadly, if they haven't gone through that personal development journey, they can fall away very, very quickly. Yeah. Which is why we try and you know, build people up from day one. And allow them to understand the journey that they're going to go through. So when those things happen, ah, Chris told me this was going to happen. Chris told me my friends were going to tell me I was crazy, all this kind of stuff, so that they're kind of aware of the situation and they will actually, I believe in it. I think this is going to create this for me. I'm going to push through anyway.
Yeah. And I think that's kind of one of the other things that so many people worried about, is that just getting those rejections and getting those and I think particularly like, you kind of touched on there, like from your friends from your family, people saying, you know, you you're crazy low are you doing that? It's just, I think because it's so different. It's not It's not something normal. You know, it's not you're not taught about in school, you're not taught about any, like, legit way, you know that people think it is legit anyway, you're not taught about it in any of these kind of ways. So I don't even know is there all right? All record that you could probably tell not just when you speak to someone, whether they're gonna kind of be interested or not because yeah, I think it's fair to say that some people are just probably not thick skinned enough, but to actually take the plunge. So what do you say to people that if they if they're kind of worried or particularly if they do have a setback you know, they've asked their best mate and I'm sure that sort of thing must happen all the time where they've asked the best mate and they've just completely told him they're stupid or
do you know what it's about setting their expectations right from the start? That's literally what it is because, you know, some people can grow their business with the people that they are I already know, you know, some people have done that. Personally, I haven't, you know, not one, not one person in my business I knew before I started my Arbonne business. So every single person I have met through one for one facet of my life. Yeah. You know, so I'm the living proof that actually, even if your friends and family don't support you, and don't do anything, you can still grow if you want to. Right. You know, and that is also where that personal development comes in. Because, you know, you're you read so many of the personal development books, and they all talk about the fact that those people around you don't often support you, because they hadn't really seen what you've seen. So it's very difficult for them to understand what you're doing because they've not been in your position yet.
And was that a deliberate thing that you did? Did you deliberately like not ask friends and family always?
Almost all of them.
But when I started my business, I was like, me and my friends. We're gonna go to the top of the company. We are going to be living like gangsters, we're gonna be flying, we're gonna be having the best life ever. But then when I explained it to them, none of them were interested. Yeah. So So initially, I was kinda like, why wish? Well, we may not why don't you want to do this with me? But then actually, as I've gone through my personal development journey is as I've been coached by my mentors, you just have that realisation that will not every like my background, is it right? Not everyone wants to be involved in it. Not everyone wants to be involved in education, like you. Not everyone wants to be a lawyer, not everyone wants to be a police officer. They wants to be a builder. Not everyone wants to do network marketing. And as soon as you get that into your head, you're like, well, so calls people that it's not going to be for everyone. Yeah. Because then we're going to be those people that you speak to that say they want to make a change in their life and say they want more money and say they want to go more holidays and say they want all this and that, but they're just not willing to put the work in. It's just like the gym, isn't it right? There are people that want to want better Is that want better health want better fitness want to look better, they go to the gym in January, give it three give it three, three attempts, they haven't got a six pack and they quit. You know, it's because it's delayed gratification like we live in a world where everything is so in like instantaneous if that's even a word so instant that when you have to put work into something, but you get the rewards down the line, it's a lot harder because even in a job as an employee, then you work an hour you get paid an hour you work an hour you get paid now you're used to being paid for your, the time you're you're spending there and then yeah, as as an entrepreneur in general, not just in network marketing, not just on being an entrepreneur, you put in a lot of work at the start that you do not get paid for so that you can get paid a lot down the line for what you're personally not doing.
Yeah, now I think Yeah, hundred percent in almost everyone that I've spoken to on this podcast, will say the same thing is Doesn't really matter what business or what the thing is that you that you're doing this, almost everyone puts in so much time and effort with like no reward not even a little reward, no reward. Yeah. And I just think for a lot of people, that's just something that they're not prepared to do. And exactly, and I think it's really hard and I can understand why a lot of people won't want to do it because it's not like tangible you can't Yes, see it, you have to, it's almost like just having faith, isn't it? It's like just trusting the process, having faith,
a giant leap of faith.
Yeah, massively. But a couple of other things that you know, tend to come up quite a lot is how many people fail, you know, the stats and things all the time, you know, yes, 70 odd percent or 99% of MLM distributors that lose money or something. And from your experience, so how how accurate is a night how yet
Well, the saying that I love is that average person in network marketing doesn't anything but the average person and that is because the average person won't be willing to do what it takes won't be willing to put in the work women need to put in the work, won't be consistent enough won't get up an hour earlier to do their personal development won't go to bed An hour later, you know, carry on contacting people and asking people, but the average person just won't do what it takes. But that's the same in everything in life. Yeah, you know, it's this, it's the same in sport, isn't it? You know, the person who become gets gold has probably done X amount more than the person who got silver hundred percent, you know, so it's, it's the same in every single thing in life, not just in network marketing, but because network marketing is so open to anybody. And it is such a low cost of entry. You know, that lots of people start with hopes and dreams of creating something incredible without putting the work in. And again, that often comes down to the people in the industry, right? Because too many people formed it as though it's easy. Yeah. As long as though it's going to be an overnight success. And it's really, really not. Like, when I speak to people and I, and they're starting a business, I say, look, this is a three to five year business plan at a minimum. And what I mean by that is, you know, the average time it takes to get to the top of our buddies three to five years, right? But I'm a lifer. Personally, I'm never stopping doing this, I will never quit. Because, you know, my, my exit plan is death. And that's how like, people need to be committed to it until, like, not until their best friend says no, not until they have to pay to go to an event or whatever. But until they create the success that they want to create. Yeah, and that's what it comes down to and and people need to have the grit, the determination and the work ethic more than anything else to be successful. network marketing.
Yeah, no. 100% Yeah, I mean, there's there's probably some other stuff as well that I've missed off. Oh, that's one. The parties. I don't know if our bond does that, but like, that's something that I hear hear people getting concerned about all like, the really expensive products like selling expensive products compared to like the market and, you know, doing it with parties with their friends at the house. Well, yeah, I think well, well. I've actually been to one of those.
Yeah, well, I can say I've never done a party.
A lot of people do. Yeah, because the great thing about the business is we've got systems in place and some people love doing that. I love getting their mates. I mean, that's a lie. Actually. I've done a nutrition workshop, right? Because Because I was like that makeups not really my bag. I love I can do a makeup workshop, but I've done a nutrition workshop right but people do do online parties nowadays. do get mates around their house and have a pamper evening and all that kind of stuff. It's all different, different ways that you can grow your business, but you get to choose what you do, right? If you don't like that kind of thing, don't do it. You know, I've grown my business speaking face to face one to one with people, because I love, I love getting to know someone, I love finding out about them, you know you how you and I connected, we had a chat, and we found out about each other, you know, and that's how you that's how I grow my business because I want to know, where someone is now, where they would love to get to. And have I got a vehicle in our bond to help them to get there. Yeah, you know, I don't tell everybody about what I do. I tell the people that I feel that I can help. Obviously, everyone can use the product if you've got skin and hair right and you can use the product. But from a business side if somebody's got all the money that could ever want, if somebody's got all the time they can ever want. If somebody hasn't got a drive to actually make this successful, they're not going to be successful.
And then when it comes down to the product, It's all relative, isn't it? Because if somebody is buying up
a shampoo for a pound shop,
everything's going to be expensive. You know, we had a lady speak yesterday who's an ease in the tissue? I could never never say that, right? But basically, she's, she runs a skin clinic, right? And when she got introduced to our when she was like, my goodness, these products are so cheap.
So again, it's all relative to what, what people are used to.
But and again, it's, it's again, against the ethos, you know, the ethos of our brand is being, you know, purity it, you know, forefront of, you know, what they're about the formulations and not being formulated with any harmful, you know, chemicals and toxins and all that sort of stuff. So, again, if you're buying soap from Tesco, it's probably other other other supermarkets are out there. If you're buying a product for retail brand retail store shelves are it's not a great quality product. Yeah. So When you're then using a higher quality product, it's not bulk filled, which means it lasts longer. So actually, you know, our products now our product spend is less than it was before we before Claire started her off her Arbonne business. Because products last longer, right? Yeah. You know, yes, yes, maybe the initial purchase might be slightly higher than we were used to because we weren't using like luxury brands. So the initial purchase was a little bit more, but we haven't got to buy it as frequently. Yeah. You know, so you actually end up your return on investment ends up being better value and you're using a better quality, safer product for for us and our family. Like I love the fact that no other product has ever been on our kids skin apart from our products. So we know that they're not getting any of those nasties on their skin.
Yeah, but yeah, I guess it is still like possible to get, like safe products and things elsewhere. But obviously, like you say, I think it's just at least you know, exactly. What goes into it?
Exactly? Yes, exactly that
I could talk to you about this kind of all dangerous, but
I'm trying to think of
just something like Well, let's go back to what we saw you in it before before you go into our bond when you solo What was your life? As I call it?
Not at all.
What was your life kind of like then you know, we go back and then I 10 years, so like
way before our bond. Yeah. So it was, you know what I? I guess I felt like I had golden handcuffs. Because, you know, I got into it in my early 20s. And I was like an account director type role. So it wasn't technical. Don't try and ask me to fix a computer isn't it? Yeah, yeah, that's all I do, mate. That's all it is basically, relationship build. I love people. I do I genuinely love People and throughout my entire career, it's all been around based around people growing relationships. And honestly, in my corporate world, it was, you know, then being able to, you know, deliver contractors into that company to deliver projects and all that kind of stuff. And it was really good. So, but I had golden handcuffs, like, I had no passion for what I was doing. I just had a really good income. And I just, you know, I was commuting four hours a day down to the city in London. And yeah, it was pretty hardcore. And I just knew I didn't want to do that for the next 30 or 40 years, which is why I had to start thinking What else can I do? I enjoyed it to a degree, you know, I was living in I was working in the city. You know, we just clarify that times that we were out, you know, enjoying, we love gigs. We love live music. So we're out doing all that kind of stuff. So life was still good. You know, we were gone on some fantastic holidays and stuff, but I was still restricted being unemployed. You know, I was told when I could go on holiday, and how long for And, you know, somebody else had that time. But you know?
So obviously, that's something that you've kind of created now, is that a little bit more freedom and stuff? And is that and like you said, obviously there is a lot of this hard work you need to put in initially, it's not just going to happen overnight and things like that you've made clear, but how free are you now? Is that what you said? So? Do you just never work? Or how does?
No, no, no, not at all. Not at all. So I probably work about two to two to three hours a day. Nice. So you three hours a day, and the thing is because I'm enjoying what I'm doing. I never feel like it's work. For me it is work. Of course it is because I don't do it. My business won't grow. But that work in commerce, it's speaking to the people that are already on, you know, my team, my business partners, and helping them you know, helping them to grow and then introducing it to new people. And that's what I love doing. You know, I love introducing a concept to somebody that could then completely transform their life. Like, every day I wake up thinking I could positively impact someone's life today, like that is pretty cool, because I wasn't thinking like that before. And you know what, we're nowhere near where we want to be. I just haven't helped enough people yet. And that's what it is about, I just want to help more and more people to create the lives that they want. Because of the way the business works and reciprocity that is then going to create the life that I want for myself. What I love is that I get to choose when I work, you know, so I work when when my kids are at school, so Oscar is six now so he's at school, Meyers two and a half she's, she's in daycare a couple of weeks, a couple of days a week, so we can work but then be present when we were kids. Yeah, you know, we go on holiday whenever we want school restrictions Now, unfortunately, but you know, we we go on holiday whenever we want. And, again, we don't have to stop doing what we're doing with with with our bond because We enjoy doing it. Like we went skiing a couple of weeks back. We're off to Mexico next week. And when we're there, we're still doing stuff. And so I've had I had someone say to me, where were you? I was on a on a web call. And afterwards, they were like, you do work? I was like, yeah, yeah. They were like, you're on holiday. Like, what are you doing? Why are you doing that? I was like, I don't, don't do this. You know, I don't need to get away from my work. Yeah. You know, most people have it in their head that I need to go on holiday to get away. Yeah, that's how I used to be. I was obviously Of course I did. I was an employee. But now I don't want to get away from it. You know, I want to do it every day to stay consistent to help more and more people as I grow and as they grow.
That's amazing. I think that's kind of, you know, you've kind of you've got, it doesn't matter where you want to get to if your life is already you don't want to, you've created a life that you don't want to escape from. And I think yes, that's really what the whole point of anything is really isn't it? You know, if everyone just He was happy with their current life no matter where they are in the world or what they're doing and then you know you've got nothing to actually escape from so it because it changes your mindset but if I'm so if we could go back to let's go like seven years ago so before you started with Arbonne yeah you just in your day job, you're happy enough? Maybe it's a time where your wife Claire, isn't it? Yes, sir Claire's maybe just joined our bond. Let's go. Yeah, that's all the time and you're thinking, Oh, yeah, she's crazy. lowboys you know, what, if you could go back to that exact moment when she had that that evening where she's just told you for the first time and you're going to go back to work the next day or whatever it is. What would be one thing that you tell yourself if you knowing what you know, now, if you could go back to you on that day, what would be one thing you tell yourself?
What a question. I love
it. Do you know what it'll be? It would be Don't make prejudgments
like that literally was, you know, I wasted a year of my life and of my business by having preconceived ideas about what it was.
So because I wasn't open minded enough to it, I didn't. I hadn't heard like, like I said, I had a bit of an ego right back then. And because I hadn't heard of this profession, this industry, I was like, I can't be anything good, right? I wasn't open minded enough, because I hadn't done that personal development to understand it. And, you know, we've all heard the same thing. The same, there's there's nothing more expensive than a closed mind. Right. And for me, if I could go back to then it would be just be open minded, here the information properly, do my own research,
and then make an informed decision, because that's what I didn't do.
Amazing. Yeah, no, I think. Yeah, if you could just tell if it gets tell yourself that when you're like 60 that we saw,
Incredible Machine. When's that time machine?
Yeah, it's gonna get invented soon as
Exactly. But the thing is, I also believe that things come into people's lives for a reason at the time, they're there, they they're needing or willing to hear about it. Because, you know, if I think back to my early 20s, if I'd been told about this back then that again, absolutely no chance I looked at this.
That's very true. Yeah,
you know, the main but there are also 18 year olds that are starting, you know, their businesses and becoming financially free, you know, leaving uni without any kind of debt and having a life of freedom because they started their business back then. Again, we're in a different world today, our way you know, where we're so much more aware of what's going on in the world and we're so much more aware of there are ways of generating income not just having to go to work day on day on day and earn and earn money that way. I mean, what was his name? Ryan from from YouTube $26 million their six year old last year.
six year old reviewing toys. Yeah, yeah, I've heard literally,
Oscar he opens my favourite starts watching this boy you play with toys. I'm like me, Don't play with your own
life and obviously we restrict the amount of time is on a device but not the world we live in. is mad, isn't it? That was never a thing 10 years ago you know what the thing for me that you
know, in schools and stuff you see kids when they get a chance to do whatever they want and an iPad now, they will watch YouTube videos or people playing fortnite I'm like,
yeah, how you watching them, but why don't you play a game on there? Why are you Why are you watching? It's absolutely
okay, but and I've since stuff ice cream.
Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.
My people to play on a PlayStation is on my way.
Yeah, watching them watching. It's just, we live in a completely different world. And we have to embrace some of it. But what I love because of what's changed is, we need to evolve. Like that we basically got two options in life, I believe, repeat or evolve a lot. We're going to repeat our daily routine over and over again and we're going to stay the same, or we need to evolve, we need to see what's changing in the world, and we need to be able to adapt to that. So with things like network marketing, we've things like our bond where it's an online virtual franchise that you can start from your mobile phone for the low entry cost. That's purely effort based. So if you put the work in, you can grow it. There are so many things like that out there
that can enable people to change their life if they want to, by utilising the changing landscape of The world.
So true, Chris? Well, um, if someone is listening to this and they want to get in contact with you like what's, what's the best way for them to reach out?
Yeah, so you know, I'm on I'm on the social media platforms, Chris Harrison, on Facebook, Chris Harrison, VP on Instagram, and you know, can give my details to you if anyone contacts you directly. And, and just to just to explore the potential of what this could be. Because like I said, it's not for everybody. But what I love about it is it is a vehicle for people, right? Our bond is a vehicle to then follow someone's passion, although might not be someone's passion, like, but they might have a passion they would love to be doing but they're in a job. So they can't do that. If they've got a reoccurring income coming in monthly, so they haven't got to spend the time in a day job. They've got time to follow their passion. And that's what it's about. It's about thinking, How can I How can I create the life that gives me the choices to follow what I love doing?
Awesome. Well, thanks so much for your time, Chris. My
absolute pleasure, I've loved it. And yeah, if more and more people can do some form of network marketing, you know, then hopefully I've, I've done a little bit to help them.
So there you have it, what a cool story and what a cool guy that Chris is. And it just I just think it's such a interesting concept that so many people still have that the wrong idea about network marketing or the wrong idea about different businesses that people can create. And I think there's just so many positives as you kind of heard from there you know, with like the, the training and the and the support and people helping people to get improve and do better in whatever it is that they're doing. is such a great way to get started in something if you have no idea what to do. I think that is more than anything, something that network marketing companies can do. But I took there was five key takeaways that just kind of want to summarise just so that it's things that I kind of took from the chat and I thought it might be able to help you out as well.
So number one is that you will have to work hard before you see any results. This is a message that Chris kind of made clear throughout the whole thing is not just going to be a lot of people join network marketing companies or start any business for that. And quite often think, Oh yeah, it's going to be it's going to create my life that I want it to look like and you know, all these people are doing it and you hear success stories like Chris, and you think if that's, that's what it's gonna be like, whereas in reality, particularly at the start, it's going to be super hard. You're gonna get so many people tell you that you're being an idiot or you're being it's just a silly idea or that they just don't want to get involved. They want nothing to do with it. And so you kind of need to have that thick skin. If you want to get started in a network marketing company because you are going to have to ask your nearest and dearest as Chris said, you know, you are going to probably ask your friends and your family if they're interested in, in joining. And chances are, if you're anything like Chris, not many of them or any of them will be interested at all. So you have to be prepared for those knockbacks and those hurdles and overcoming those challenges if you want to get started in a network marketing company.
Number two is what Chris would go back in time and tell himself when you first heard of it, is just to be open minded. I think it's really the same with so many opportunities that exist in today. I think there's just sometimes information overload there's just so many different things that you could potentially get started with. But just by being open minded to different ideas, helps you to actually select the right idea, do your own research, but it it may be possibility for you that you've never even considered before, something that you might be interested in doing.
Number three, is that you either repeat and repeat and repeat, repeat, repeat. So what I did the or evolve? And I think that's a really interesting concept that Chris kind of said is that you just gonna never going to see different results if you just keep doing the same thing that you're doing. And for some people, they're happy doing it. But chances are, if you're listening to this right now, you are probably one of those people that maybe wants to evolve and wants something different. So this is another potential vehicle, which could potentially let you live the life that you want to live.
And that is my number four, as well as that Chris kind of said as well is that you, it's important to actually think about the life that you want, rather than just jumping into an idea or doing something because you think I was gonna make loads of money. Think about what you actually Do you want your life to look like and then try and find something that will help you get there some? Can it be?
The number five is Can this be your vehicle or could something be your vehicle to help you get to the life that you want, which I just thought was absolutely brilliant points made from him. And something that his podcast is really all about. So hopefully that has opened your eyes a bit to what network marketing and different companies such as our bond can provide for you or for different people. Obviously, like as Chris said, the average person who goes into a network marketing company is going to fail. You know, that's just as fact, the average person, someone that is not willing to put in extra work and do things without seeing results will fail. That that is the same for almost any business opportunity that you come across. You are going to have to put in time you are probably going to have to sell to your friends and family. be successful with what doesn't mean that Chris is an example. He said that none of his team are people that he knew before he actually started.
So it doesn't mean you have to sell to them or get them to say yes. But that is probably people that you're going to be speaking to in the early days. So you have to be aware of that. And I think he made a really valid point is just setting those expectations before diving in. As long as you have the right expectations, then this could potentially work for you. So I hope you find that useful, guys, and I'll catch you next time. Thanks for listening. In today's episode of meet time online, be sure to subscribe to our podcast you don't miss any future episodes. And please take a moment to write a review for our podcast
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