#186 Recovery After Stroke with Bill Gasiamis.mp3
11:58PM Jul 31, 2019
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Guys, welcome back to the chief life Podcast. I am Matthias Turner and today I'm joined by Bill gassy omnibus bill. Welcome, sir.
Thanks for having Maddie, really appreciate it.
So I mean, the foolishness is so funny, you literally like froze just then and then sped up. So you sound like a full robot. So you will come to us in a second. But that's just the joys of doing podcasts, either the the inter webs, but I mean, your voice is probably going to be pretty familiar to our listeners, as you have featured on our podcast previously as the interviewee. So we have bought two podcasts with Bill through his podcast, which is called recovery officers broken on that we actually dive deep into. The first one was sugar. The second one was caffeine. And something that I really wanted to get across was your actual message, your story and what kind of led you into creating a platform that helps people and it's a very nice platform, because you're talking to people who are suffering from strokes, or people whose family have someone in their in their space that is suffering from strokes. And I mean, this obviously comes from a pain point from yourself where you've had to stretch yourself. And I really like to kind of dive into I guess everything from the start of the story based around what what happened and where were you at with your life before the stroke even came on board. Because something that we've been talking about with the interviews you've been you've been interviewing us on is actually about health and how your nutrition your lifestyle can actually fully change around your genetics, which is called epigenetics so you can switch bad genes off and turn good genes on based on the last you're living. Something that we've come to talk about with you is based on the fact that you've got kids, and you don't want them to go through the same thing that you've gone through. So you've been talking to them about, hey, these are some situations like these are some things that have happened to me. And these are some things that you can potentially change that might stop you ever going through this this hereditary or this genetic thing that can happen to you now. So let's talk a little bit bill Firstly, about like, Where were you at before before your first stroke? Where were you at? What were you doing? What was your lifestyle looking like?
I was just the typical guy, man, I had a property maintenance business. And my life was pretty much invested in that almost every minute of every hour of every day, like was definitely invested in that. And I needed to do that because I wanted to pay the bills and needed to, you know, pay the mortgage, I needed to keep the kids at school, we needed to feed the family, the usual stuff unites No, no secret why people do what they do with their businesses. And what that had done, though, is the the the amount of focus that I was putting into that had taken the focus away from me noticing how my body was going to Hell's feeling and what I was doing to myself, so I might go to work at seven in the morning, get leave there at 330, come home by 430 5:30am. Because I was the one that was the home that earliest, I'll prepare dinner. By the time I prepare dinner, and everyone comes home from school or work. We eat, we sit down, we clean up and do all that type of stuff. And then I get stuck into paperwork. And I get stuck into quotes and all that type of thing. So by the time I got to risk, it might have been eight or nine in the evening. And I've just started to wind down. And then the next morning, I'm repeating that cycle and I'm finding myself lacking enjoyment, lacking fun lacking anything other than just the hard slog stuff. And I thought that was the only way to go about doing things. And I remember really winning to my wife about how terribly I was running my business, even though I was spinning so many hours on it. And I remember telling her that no one's going to take me seriously because I have you know, because I was comparing myself to other people. And I was never going to be as good as them and all that type of thing. I had so many mindset issues that I was just stressing myself out, I was doing what I thought was the right thing. And then what happened was, I was so oblivious to my body, but got to the point where I was unwell. And I started to notice the numbness in my left foot. And the numbness had spread in a week from my left foot all the way up to my left side. And I was at that oblivious that I completely ignored that and didn't do anything about it until three or four days in where I went to a chiropractor instead of a doctor. And then I made a second appointment to see a chiropractor. And then when I saw the car back to the second time into that nice said to me, You need to go to hospital. I said to him, I'm not going to the hospital, because either work tomorrow. And that's how, you know, seriously entrenched by YZ supposedly getting work done. I was just a mess man and finally went to the doctor to the hospital. And the hospital guys did a scan and found that there was a blade on the brain. And the numbness was as a direct result of the blade on the brain. But I noticed that my foot awake earlier
by out. And so I mean talking like obviously there's a lot going on to this stress. There's a lot of mindset issues that you're talking about. Now, I do want to come back to that I will circle back around. But one thing I wanted to talk about was actually like the food you're eating the drinks, you're having like you in such a routine, such a cycle that every day would have been very similar. And it would have always been on the run. So you're like hell, I'm just going to grab this food because it's convenient to me, it might be that you're always eating out because of the nature of the beast, the nature of the job that you had. Or it might be to pack your own lunches. So let's talk about like, what sort of siloed what soon foods were you eating? What sort of drinks Were you drinking.
So wake up in the morning, start with a coffee, get me going, basically leave the house, drive to my local, pick up a coffee, and then head off. If I was hungry, I might have a toasted ham cheese tomato sandwich or whatever it was that was in the binary that was ready to go Yeah. And then I'd get to work, we get cracking. And then by the time lunchtime come around, I'd be hungry. So I might get a second coffee, or a can of coke or some kind of soft drink. And then whatever food was available in that particular location. And if there wasn't anything that I considered, you know, something I wanted to wait, I would go to your KFC or your McDonalds or anything that was going to get me something in my gut really, really quickly. Because apparently I didn't have enough time to sit down and rest and eat. Yeah,
yeah. And then what's a typical day that you were cooking for the family.
So the typical dinner would have been healthier, but it definitely would have still can you considered, it still would have had in it. Heaps of processed food, in that, you know, might have been pasta or bread, it would have been definitely soft drink on the table again. And they might have been a bit of protein and a bit of vegetables, which was pretty standard. You know, we're kind of the standard steak and three page kind of people. Yeah. But the stuff supporting that wasn't was just filler, you know, the way I would describe it was filler was anything to make me feel full. And to get the end to get the kids fed quickly and just conveniently. So that was dinner. And then at the end of the night, there might be, you know, finishing off the night might have been something like a bit of chocolate, some potato chips, cake, and maybe a tea or coffee or something else to sort of help wash that down. And in between that, of course there's water and a little bit of maybe alcohol depending on the day. So what I didn't realize was that what it was was most of the stuff I was eating came out of a packet or out of a bottle.
Yeah. And that's that's crazy, because that's convenient living, that's what we've been brought up in. And that's a very typical diet like the people we talked to, he does not that far straight from, I would say probably like 70% of people we talked to like we we do deal with a lot of people who have an understanding of health and nutrition that they've got some form of focus on health and wellness. And they know that they should be eating a little healthiest that they're doing a few extra things on top of what you had. Like mean, they're reducing some of those packaged foods and eating maybe a few more salads or having say a few more wraps and bits and pieces. But realistically, we've been brought up into a world that is now so convenient to go and buy food while we're out and about the challenge comes within yourself with I guess really trying to put in a little bit of effort. Like realistically anytime there's a Mac is there's also going to be a Woolworths recalled on RGA reasonably close by. And if you're driving there, you can still drive in and make a quick meal at one of those places. When it comes to foods and drinks like drink such a soft drink that like that silent killer man like that stuff that kids are drinking consistently, adults are drinking consistently. I'm quite often shocked by the amount of soft drink we still see full grown adults drinking, let alone caffeinated beverages such as like your coffees, like some people having eight plus coffees a day, which absolutely baffles me, dude. It's just it's just kind of one of those things. But I mean, the reason why I stopped you to kind of talk there is because I want the listeners to kind of chime in and see how different their lifestyle is at the moment. Like Ask yourself the questions How often are you having the the coffee? How often? Are you having the food that's bought out? That's maybe just straight from the memory night, you're saying? How often are you having packaged foods? Or how often are you feeding yourself soft drinks and being your family's offerings like these are all things that can and will affect your genetics and your makeup and how you respond bond is the biggest thing as a human like, if you're thriving, or if you're just simply surviving, like Bill was in this stage,
or definitely wasn't thriving. I didn't know that though. That's the thing that we did was I thought I was doing, I was being really efficient with my time and putting more time into my work because I was doing putting less time into my nutrition. But I didn't know that I needed nutrition. I know that now, I just thought that I needed to put stuff in my stomach to make the feeling of hunger go away, you know, and I didn't realize how that was affecting my actual ability to be better at work be better at my paperwork, you know, be more switched on when it came to my clients and their needs. I didn't realize that the stuff I was doing was impacting my performance. And And what was interesting was that when I became unwell from a brain injury, it's the first time I realized how my performance was being impacted by food because now my brain is kind of trying to stay up front stay alive, it's a struggle to work for me, it's trying to do all the things that I normally did, but with a less of it because it had switched up in part because there was a blood clot in my head for a couple of years. So when when I got to that point where I started to notice what was happening, it took a while for me to connect the dots. But what I was doing, I was eating something, and then I'd have a massive crush, maybe half an hour, 45 minutes later or an hour later. And it took a while. But then I started noticing that man, I just had a soft drink because I thought I needed energy because I was struggling. And now I have even less energy. And I'm even struggling even more. So I would have another soft drink, try to get myself up and running quick carbs and sugars and all that kind of stuff. My brain was shutting down. And sometimes I'll get to that point where I'd be gone for half a day. I couldn't do anything for half a day. And it took me a really long time to connect the dots. Then once I connected the dots, like I thought back into how my life was previously. And if that's affecting me now I was thinking about like, well, how was that affecting me beforehand. And it's just when, when my whole world changed, and I started learning about how I was really creating a perfect storm of unwell health. And I needed to be responsible to make the changes, you know,
so many things coming out for me Tell me something that you were just talking about was obviously getting that sugar hit to boost your energy up, it makes me commonly it makes me think of the common snacks people will buy when they're on a long road trip. Because they stopped at the service station, it's like well, Hell, I might as well just buy some snacks is going to give me some more energy. But just because you had a blood clot doesn't mean that that's the only thing that was causing that energy drop, like that's actually how every single person responds is we we get a big sugar dump. So we have a high level of blood sugar, like sugar with in our blood. So we reduce sorry, our body produces insulin, which goes over the top of the blood sugar and says, Hey, we need to store this. So it drops your blood sugar's back below the state that should be in which then you say, Well, I'm crashing here, I need some more sugar. So you're going to have that same thing all while insulin has not had a chance to drop back down. So it just stays high all day long. And that's what causes unfortunately, like disease and issues within the body. One thing I did want to touch on was something you're talking about with your work before and how you were trying to put in all this effort into work, and you didn't have time to stop and eat and you didn't have time to do the things that were probably more favorable for yourself. Because you were so busy working, you're so busy being productive through work, something that we've been doing a lot of recently is actually working in the corporate space. And so we'll go out and do like the health and wellness program for a whole whole corporate space, which is awesome, I really enjoy it because we do get so many insights out of these people. And we get to kind of really see them just transition as individuals, and then as a corporation, because they start to thrive as individuals and then all the sudden each each person is bringing themselves up and just through implementing some simple practice this is we see businesses all of a sudden start to thrive, like they really start to get like the income goes up, their production rate goes up and everything's changing. I've recently had this document put together. And what it shows is that per 10 employees, companies are spending about 12 and a half thousand dollars on sick pay each year 10 employees, which is pretty crazy. The other side to that is that employees only on average work a productive three hours within a space of an eight hour day. Which is also pretty crazy. Because if you're out and you're spending 12 hours of the day trying to work and be very productive, yet only three hours of that is actually productive. What the heck are you doing for the for the other nine hours, right. And I mean, this is something that we're commonly saying within the Australian work force. And I mean, this is this paper that I've had created is based off of a Hollywood studies that have been done through Australian music universities based on Australian workplaces. And what we know is that taking breaks every 45 minutes is actually very important for your trying to reset even if it's a five minute break. But the food that you eat directly corresponds to how your brain is reacting, as you was talking about before, like your energy boost and energy drops were based on the food that you're eating, and how your brain was responding to that as well. So I mean, there's there's so many little insights that can come from just what you were saying about how you live pre stroke. And then I think the difference to now how you're living and how it's changed your whole life and transition. So I mean, we pretty much got to the state where you found out, you're numb through one side, you had bleeding your brain, it was directly related to your to your numbness. And then you also found out you had a quote, so what happened? What was the deal from there?
Yeah, so the clock was inside my brain, it wasn't inside of blood vessel, one of the blood vessels burst. And the clot was inside the brain. So what it's done is, as it's touching on brain cells, it's switching more and more of the brain off. And the areas that it was switching off at the beginning of related to my, my sensation, basically. And then six weeks later, back in hospital, because I had another episode. What happened that time was their blood clot got to about the size of a golf ball inside my brain.
What was the episode What happened?
So I noticed that I was going more numb on the left side, I started getting dizzy, I was actually at work when I wasn't supposed to be I was asked not to go to work, I went to work anyway. And I started to find myself sort of slipping away to the left side and I couldn't lift my body up and I couldn't Rouse myself. And it was just a really scary space of being out of control. On my left, the left side of my body was just gone. And when we finally got to hospital, I was with I got my guys I was working with to take me home, so that my wife could drive me to the hospital, which was a crazy decision. It was like, three hours before I got to hospital. And when we finally got to hospital, I played it down again. And I said to her look, I'm just gonna go and see the the triage nurse and you go park the car. And it was only a 50 meter walk from the car to the triage nurse. When I got there, they asked me what my name was, I couldn't tell them they asked me to what I was doing the I didn't didn't know. Wow. And then I just remember going blank and waking up a little bit lighter. And there's I mean, you know, there's troops all over the place, I mean bit in a ward somewhere. And this lady comes up to me and she says me, do you know who I am? And I said, No, I don't. It was my wife. Wow. So that created a whole crazy drama about trying to work out like how bad I had become, in literally a space of three and a half hours, but in that last few minutes. And that we're getting really worried. So eventually, when I woke up. I i had i didn't i didn't understand what it happened to me. I didn't know how I got there. And as, as the days and months progressed, after that, the things that I had to get back, I had to get back my ability to start in in sentences. Remember things, I couldn't type an email, I couldn't drive, I couldn't work I couldn't do. I couldn't do the simplest things. And I would start something and I would just run out of ideas as to why I started that thing. And I could walk and I could do all of that type of thing. But I was cognitively kind of like on another planet, I was a little bit spaced out. And my wife would say, we spoke about that, or you're that person did come and see your you know, she would have to finish a sentence for me kind of being like that would start and she said is that what you're trying to say? So it was just really terrible time. And I really became desperate at that point in time thinking, Okay, I'm going to step up, I'm going to take responsibility for what I've done to myself, because as well as eating badly, working too much not going to the doctor or something I was smoking. And I was drinking but not excessively. And I create, I was creating what I considered to be the perfect storm of me being unwell. And I blamed nobody else for it, even though this blood vessel was in my head. And it's a congenital thing. I actually didn't support it from bleeding, I actually created the perfect, you know scenario for it's a blade. And it was a big regret of mine. And I thought, Man, if I end up in a, in a space where somebody else has to wipe my bum, like, that's just all self inflicted. And I hated myself for that at the beginning, you know?
So I mean, there's a little one touch on there. But firstly, how long did it take you to remember your wife?
I reckon it was either that day or the next day, I actually don't remember when I woke up properly. Yeah. And then. And then I sort of started to recognize all the people around me, my family, and everybody in the doctor started asking me my name. And they started asking me what day it was and who the prime minister was, and all that kind of stuff. And I started to get a little bit of an idea of where and how, what, how, how, where I was and what was happening. So I reckon it was that day, maybe a bit later. But I really don't know. I haven't asked if I recognized her later on later on.
Yeah, it's a it's pretty scary. Because I mean, the whole Prime Minister question, there's a lot of Australians that couldn't answer that any, let alone to having a stroke, which is, which is worrisome. But also he's a very chilled out about that stuff.
Anyway, when it came to,
I mean, you pretty much hit rock bottom doing like he literally said just before you hated yourself, or what you've done to yourself, and that you blind yourself everything you've done, which I don't think is necessarily a bad thing, because the only way you can go from rock bottom is up. I mean, you have to stop clawing your way out of it. And unfortunately, in life, that's how a lot of people deal like it takes rock bottom, before we turn around ourselves before we actually have a look at life and say well hold up, I'm in control. Everything that I do affects me. And I'm the one that affects everyone around me as well. So what can I do to get myself out of this? How can I thrive for my family? How can I thrive for myself? How can I thrive for future generations that are under me and leave my own legacy to some extent? And so for you What did that look like? So you can hit rock bottom? What comes next when you're in the state where you hate yourself? What What do you change? Like, where do you start?
So, so this is what I hated about myself is that I was grumpy. Of course, when I'm trading all of that amount of stress. I was grumpy. I was acting out. I wasn't a good father. Now, I wasn't a terrible father. I wasn't one of those deadbeat dads, but like I didn't, when I compared myself to the person who I wanted to be. I was nowhere near that. So I was short and not fully supportive of my wife. And, you know, I didn't want to be that kind of guy. And then I was really terrible to me. Right. And I was 37. So I almost contributed to ending my life at 37. Yeah. And it was just like, how could you have done that so young? Like, how could you be that oblivious. So with work, I was working for people I didn't like I was working for amount of money that I didn't consider was enough. And then I didn't value didn't show that I was valued by the person that I was working for. And I just needed to start everywhere. But the place that I instinctively started at was food. And I started there because I felt like that was the easiest thing for me to influence really, really quickly. Yeah. And I just started to research. And I came across, you know, article here and an article there. I want the first ones I came across was one about sugar in the brain. And man, or I realized after I read into it because I dove deep into sugar, I realized that sugar damages collagen. And blood vessels are made of collagen. Yeah. And my blood vessels were no longer flexible, because I was smoking consuming too much sugar. And when they're not flexible, they're more likely to rupture. And when I've got awake one, I'm supporting it to rupture. So I cut sugar out immediately cut the soft drinks out. And I remember one of the catalysts to cut the soft drinks out was I went and got some coaching some life coaching because my life was a mess. And my coach the cheeky bug out, guys, if you don't quit sugar, I am not going to coach you. I thought that was astounding that she would say that's a mouthful. That was pretty rude. But what she was doing, she was testing me to say whether or whether I was coming needed that I needed to change so badly, I was prepared to do almost anything. Of course, I stopped smoking immediately when I ended up into the hospital for the first time. But then I cut out sugar. And what I noticed when I cut out sugar was amazing. And I started to lose weight, I started to feel less bloated, my energy levels started to sort themselves up. And it just got me thinking about like if I'm cutting out sugar, and I make and I'm feeling better. And I'm not missing it like what else can I cut out. And then I started to do more and more research at that time. Maybe there was nobody like you and Stacy that I could contact and say give me all the answers. But I had to go to a whole bunch of different places. And because I couldn't work, drive do anything. When I had energy, I just sat at the computer. And I researched and researched and found more and more stuff. So I started with sugar. And then I quit alcohol as well, because alcohol is not for the Brian when is healing. And then I continue to just go down that path and found out about gluten and found out about dairy and found out about caffeine. And I started to put together the perfect storm for healing the brain. So I changed my thinking and my mindset around that is I'm going to create the right environment to heal my brain, you won't believe what happened. Like, I started to lose weight without exercising. Because I wasn't allowed to exercise. I started to feel more energetic and I was able to do more and more things. And without being at work, I increased by increase the turnover of my business by double without being on site. And it was just crazy. There's new ideas of how to do things started entering my mind. I started looking for people to help me and support me in implementing these new processes and procedures. And all the things I was thinking about which were not possible, literally six months earlier had started to become possible and and I'm like, how can I make such a dramatic turnaround in six months that I couldn't make earlier like I just couldn't understand it. And then what I realized was that all was turning up as a different version of myself. And people were just tuning in, and they were noticing and they wanted to do business with me. And they wanted to be around me. And they wanted to pay me what I wanted to get paid. And man it was just it's been life changing. And then from there, you know, things have progressed.
That's insane. That's, that's a really cool story. And I mean, there's a few things I did want to touch on them really quickly. We'll go back to the food side of things. To what extent did you work on the sugar? So I mean, obviously, you said I quit sugar? Were you surprised by the amount of things sugar was in?
Yeah, I started really searching. And I found I was looking at cans of conserved food like Patriot, always. I want to make a burger and put some patriot in and I have a look at it. And I look at the back and it's got sugar in it. And I thought maybe that's just like the sugars from the Patriot But no, it's added. Then I would make some tacos, go get some corn that was in a can look at that. And I had sugar and I was like frickin what the heck's going on here then Oh, look at Bread, bread had sugar in it. Man, you know, look at you name it our pasta sauce, tomato sauce that we would add, you know, in our pasta, which was just fresh sauce that was squeezed and put in a bottle. Yeah, sugar. And it was kind of mind boggling as to how much sugar I was consuming. Even if I wasn't consuming soft drinks. I was exceeding this apparent, you know, the Australian required the minimum maximum level? Yeah, I was exceeding and I couldn't believe it. And I started becoming a bit of a, you know, a bit of a sugar maniac and started telling my wife, I'm bring that home to this. And that's a different conversation that didn't really work that quickly. But it was just absolutely astounding. It was in everything that I consume that was in a packet. Absolutely.
And I mean, that's very interesting, because obviously, a lot of these companies are on to it. And the fact that sugar is addictive, your brain commonly it really thrives off of sugar and fats. And so when it can, when it craves those foods is because it's like, hey, I need energy, get me some sugar, get me some fats, when they put that food, the sugar into those canned foods and into those different products. It makes the body crave it more. And so it's it's really smart in a marketing play of things. It's not great for our health at all. But I mean, I think something that's very important to show is it you set up some very clear guidelines for yourself. And the guidelines, we're not eating sugar. And so it took you to the extent where you would read the food labels, you look at the ingredients list, and if it had that, that product in it, you would remove it. Now I had the same conversation with many people about foods that cause inflammation. So sugar is one of them. Gluten is another dairy is another caffeine and alcohol or two more as well. And it becomes a really tough thing for people to do. When it comes to the word gluten or dairy. They're like, Oh, no, I couldn't I couldn't give that up. And it's like, well, why the heck not like it's doing the same thing. You'll happily enough go and maybe give up sugar for a month. But you wouldn't happily go up and give give up something like gluten, no gluten, no dairy, even though they are causing inflammation within the body and still giving you a negative effect. So for you, what was the mindset shift around like that guideline for you like, okay, sugar is no longer a thing for me. And I'm just never going to eat it. But I'm going to put it in a conscious effort to make sure that I'm not eating as well, what what was the shift around that? Was it just purely due to your circumstance?
It was was, it was initially and then I noticed how well I felt not consuming it. So initially it was what can I do to heal my brain, I'll take sugar out. And then it was well like, I actually feel good about it. And if I take and if I did go somewhere where there was a dessert, for example. And you know, we had a three course dinner and then dessert came and I ate sugar, I would notice at the end of the meal, how much worse I would feel after that particular meal. And then I got to the point where I actually if I have some sugar, whether it's in on honey, or the tea, or in a coffee or whatever, I actually can feel it running through my veins and entering into my brain life, I can actually feel it moving through my body. And it's the most weird and bizarre thing. I can't explain it other than it feels like. I don't know, man, like, I don't know what it feels like, it's just feels like stuff is entering into my body that shouldn't be there. And I and I have this response. So I was motivated initially by what it does to collagen, and how, if I take it out, it will stop doing that I started upping my college and intake. And then I was inspired by I was losing weight. And then I was inspired by how it made me feel when I consume it. And it was just a no brainer was easy to get rid of. And then if I had a sweet need, you know, for something sweet, I would just have a piece of apple or I'd have, you know, have an orange or you know, would have a little bit of fruit No, but again, not the full, not the full apple or the full orange or
whatever. The crazy thing is that people when they give up sugar that we commonly find is that they will come and say you know what, like apples taste amazing, like now that I actually have a true understanding for what sweetness is and how this how this sweet food actually tastes. Because I've got rid of sugar that that thing that makes everything taste like bland. how incredible it actually tastes like life is all of a sudden you can you can taste it. And it really is quite satisfying, especially when you do have, say for instance, a sweet craving, you can get away with eating an apple and feel completely 100% satisfied.
Yeah, it was, for me, eating the apple became where the beginning was, I'm having a crush. Let me grab the nearest thing that sweet to get me going. And I didn't realize I was doing that to became I'm gonna have an apple. Yeah, or I'm gonna have an orange or I'm gonna have some Mandarin. Is it? Same thing? I was consuming it but the way and the reason I was consuming was completely different. And I knew.
Yeah, that's awesome. So something I said I'd loop back to twice now I'm still having is based around mindset and the mindset that you had pre pre stroke and the mindset you had post stroke. Now, I'm I'm a big believer in law of attraction and the things that we think about we commonly draw to us. And I think, even though you weren't necessarily thinking about stroke, you were thinking about stress and business, and how am I going to provide and oh my god, what would what do my family do without me? And all of these things? Were almost compiling to your sickness happening. Whether whether that's true or not, and people can say yes or no. But then post you started, like you said, folks, you and your food, they start thinking about, well, how am I going to make this work? How do I survive when I'm not there? How do I double my business? When I'm not there? What What things do I start to think of? It's like those things that you were thinking of what what you started, put your focus into words. So therefore, all of a sudden, you start to work towards that you start to put the actions into place to make sure that those things are happening. And then boom, all of a sudden, it's there, and it's ready. At the point, once you go on post operation, did you realize that you were doing that like your focus and your your you were attracting almost those things in life? Was there a realization at some point you like, Oh, it's worse, because I've stopped. I've thought about it, and I'll put the effort towards it.
You know, media came when I did probably my first tax return after I became sick. When my accountant goes, man, you've had a big year, compared to your other years, and I said, Well, what do you mean? Like, what's the difference, and he showed me the difference. And I was like, wow, like, I didn't think that was possible for me beforehand. And I had never achieved those types of figures beforehand. I'm not sure how I did it now. But then I started to reflect on how much time I spent working on my business. Rather than in my business. I had outsource the quoting, I had outsourced the labor. All I had to do was actually turn up and made the client. Yeah. So always meeting the client at the quiet with the other person who was actually compiling the quote, I was making in the quiet the client during the delivery of the job. And I was meeting him at the end, asking them if they're happy, and to pass. Yeah, that was it. Which means I had so much more time to find all the little tools, and all the little people and all the little things that I needed to continue to bring in Leeds or that caliber, those types of clients, those types of leads that type of work, and that I just built a team of people who would do the tasks that I couldn't physically do anymore. And man, that was just eye opening. And when I started, when I started to reflect on that you're 100%, right, I stopped attracting the shitty clients. And I started attracting the right clients. Yeah, I stopped attracting illness and disease. And I started attracting health and wellness. And I just eased into that it wasn't initially very conscious of obey on my part, it was just instinctual I needed to get well and I needed to make money. How was I going to do both. And I was guided beautifully by my instincts and got to that point. But I did seek out help or sought out help from the right people who have done that before. And who guided me to get to that point. The only people I didn't get support from because I couldn't find them were people like yourself and Stacey. Because it was seven years ago when I started this whole journey. There was just nobody working in this space like you guys are. And if I had, I would have gone. Stacy and Maddie, you know, what are the 10 steps on? It's a follow Tell me what they are? I'm going to do them one at a time to get there. You know?
Yeah, yeah, definitely. I mean, it's like we keep talking about like, You almost hit that rock bottom, you had to build your way back up. But what people need to realize is, there's never too late to start, like, you can start tomorrow. And it's still fine. If you, if you built yourself into a corner like you, that doesn't matter, you can always get yourself out of it. And something that I think nutrition really comes down to is mindset, because it's easy enough to for us to say hey, eat this food. But until you're mentally ready, it's going to be a hard, hard, hard road out of there. So I mean, realistically, it comes down as two different things. It's working on mindset. It's also working nutrition, because they really help you to move forward. And one thing I think that we can always control is the food that we're putting in like no one else puts the food in your mouth unless you are actually disabled. And you can't do that all you have to eat through a tube. And then the other thing we can control is how much we're actually moving in a day. So I mean, yes, we're all busy. And we all work and we all have our lives and things happen. But it's do you tell yourself the story that bill had beforehand of I'm too busy, I can't do anything? Or do you tell yourself the story that bill had afterwards of I'm gonna make this work. And I'm going to look after myself. So I can make sure that I make it work for everything else. And I think it's it is that once again, it comes down to a mindset shift, like, Hey, I can move a bit more in the day, it might be that I stand up at work, rather than I sit down at work, it might be that I parked my car a block away instead of parking, the car pocket work by those small little things that start to compile. And when you do that consistently, so you did that one day, all of a sudden, you you feel a little better, because you made this one, when when you do it consistently for a week, all of a sudden, you've won for a whole week, and you start to believe in yourself that little bit more. It's like, Hey, I am starting to make the steps that are changing me as a person, how do I take the next steps and it starts to compile, it starts to build bigger and bigger and that block then becomes a kilometer. And that kilometer, then comes five K's and then all of a sudden you're joining a gym and then all of these things start to compile. It doesn't just happen overnight, it's the same thing you're saying with your business, it didn't happen overnight. It's the same thing that happened with your health, it didn't happen overnight. It's always been a compartment of things. I think that's where as a society, we have gotten lost. Because going back to the convenient eating that we were to talking about before, we're used to pressing a button in the car rocking up, we're used to pressing a button and all of a sudden the car delivers food to us. We're used to being able to go to a shop and have a meal ready for us. Something that would take us maybe half an hour to prepare at home all of a sudden takes us two minutes because we go in we get it we walk out and not in the brain seems like it's an easier product or easier production, the easier way out of it. So laziness is built. And then we become lazy as individuals, because it's just the way that society is built up. It's the way that that life has been made for us because people have convenience, which is awesome. But I love to test people to go out and actually give a fuck about their life and start to work hard. Like what what things can you do? How can you test yourself day in and day out to make sure that you're being a better person? And I think if you were to go back to the story about what you were saying about being the father that you wanted to be compared to the Father you are being it's like, I don't know, I think there are many people in that situation. I think there are many parents that are in that boat, and there's many people in that boat and you had to turn up and be someone else. And you had to pretend to be someone else until it until it happened, which I don't think is a bad thing, like using archetypes of other people and putting on a mask and putting on a different name or story for yourself is not a bad thing. If that's what gets you to that point.
Yeah, look, I am.
I had this really great thing that happened to me, I nearly died. So I said to myself, like if I had died, what would everyone have said, so to speak at my funeral about me? And what would they have said if they were asked her about dad and about their husband? So I didn't like what may have come. I also had the opportunity to look back on my mindset and say, was that mindset serving me? Wasn't even mine. came from someone else. That wasn't me. I wasn't meant to be that guy. So you got implanted somewhere else? Like the diet advice, like the food that I was consuming got implanted. But it was may ultimately who decided to do those things?
Yeah. I mean, right down to the fact of this, like things that people say to us, we then take on. So things that might have been said to you when you're younger, like things that I still hear from grandparents and, and parents things like, well, I did it when I was younger, or that's just the way it is we had to work like this. and different things like that, that really, they they scare a person without the person realizing. And it's these stories and clouded visions from other people that they get pushed on to us. And so I mean, you had to like you said, you had to look at that whole thing and say, This isn't me, what do I want to be? And how do I get there?
Yeah, absolutely. And when I realized that wasn't made, because I didn't really want to be the guy who was doing stuff to kill himself. But how did I become that guy? And then when I realized that I had become that guy, and that some of the things I were doing were not my things. And the the stories I was selling about why it's okay to smoke and why it's okay to drink and why it's okay to not eat in the morning and not have time to wait in the morning. What a load of crap. Like, how is it that we've become, as humans we've become, to not have enough time to do the one thing that we need to do to stay alive, which is it? But it's like saying, I don't have time to breathe? Like, what is all that about? It's such a ridiculous thing. And I hear my clients say that to me now. And I don't judge people who say that I get why they say it, but I was one of those people. So it's kind of like, Okay, let me just turn everything on its head. And let me start again, and one thing at a time. And what I was really good at doing and because of my recovery. So you said I had two blades, but actually had a third blade over three years. And the third blade ended up with me in surgery right. Now one of the great thing that rehabilitation did, because I had to learn how to walk again, I had to get my feeling back in my left side, I had to be able to learn how to use my left arm again. And when I was doing that the doctors, sorry, the physios and the OTS would say, Wow, yesterday, you only took three steps. Look how far you came today. And what they taught me was compare myself to where I was yesterday, to where I am today on my journey to walking 100 steps or 1000 steps and getting out of there. Yeah. That comparison of well look how far my businesses come in those three years. What do I need to do now to take it to the next level? And then I also do the well like, look how far I've come in quitting sugar. Now have not only quit sugar, quit caffeine, also quit gluten and quit alcohol. And guess what? I'm still bill, I still exist in the same world where these things were impossible to do without previously. But now they're not, I can still go to my dad's great feast. And not if not have passed and three kilos of bread, you know, with all sorts of different sources and amazing things on him like I can still do that. Yeah. And somehow, I've been able to coexist as the only version that I wanted to be the one that was controlled by me and created by me, not the one that was influenced by external sources. And when I go to a bar and drink with my friends, they might have a beer or a gin and tonic or whatever I'm having. I'm having like a bubbly water with an orange in it or a piece of lemon in it or piece of lime in it. And I'm still doing the drinking thing. I'm still being married with everybody. I'm just not drinking an alcohol. It could be vodka. It could be gin, nobody would know
No, exactly. And we commonly find that in those situations, it's it's occasionally that you make other people feel uncomfortable when you're not drinking at all. So it's easy enough to get your a bubbly water and an so sorry, like a soda online or a soda and orange like you're saying, and also and people that you're having a drink and they just don't care. It's just a normal conversation or he's having a drink with me, it makes them feel really comfortable too. So it's almost like the workaround to not even have that worry. until until everyone's buying rounds. You don't want to buy a drink when you're buying $2 drinks, maybe
I think you buy one round just to shut them up and labor that Yeah. And then keep them off your back. Because my friends, they did struggle. And it was they felt like I was missing out on something. They felt like I wasn't able to be involved in the right kind of way, you know, and I appreciate it that they thought I was missing out but really wasn't missing out. I was if I if I have a drink now I feel like I'm having a stroke. So there's no point in even having one. Yeah, it's that dramatic, like my left side will go to sleep, almost, you know, after one drink, and it's my right sides feeling great. And why would I want to that my balance goes off, I risk falling over. I run into doorways. Does that point? You did it take a powerful conversation before they kind of eased off on you with that? It does. I've taught people you know, quite bluntly, sometimes when they when they don't understand that, dude, like, remember how sick I was, like, that's how it makes me feel. And I don't want to feel like that. I just want to be okay, I want to drive and I don't want to have to worry about not being able to feel the steering wheel and not being able to, you know, press the clutch. You know, like I need to be able to be comfortable with my body because it feels like there's two different people are touched down the middle and what I'm talking about down the middle, like, exactly down the middle to the middle of the body. Yeah. Yeah. That causes so much weird, you know, tension and tightness on the left side that I don't need that man, I just I just I just want to be, you know, okay with myself. So if it took me kind of almost repetitive education of them to leave me alone about it. And that was the hardest part. I used to get frustrated. And at some point, I would say look stuff, but I'm not going out. Because now we're kind of have this conversation. Every time I go somewhere people think that it's not normal to drink. And if you are one of those people who thinks that, then you're going to drink yourself to oblivion and you won't notice it.
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah. And I think there's a few things that really stand out there. And something is that, realistically, everyone's got the same, same two choices that you're making, whether you just give it and have a drink with them, or you stick to your guns and you you hold fire and you make sure that you don't get convinced. And it's about having that conversation. And no one likes confrontation to start with. But you know, what makes confrontation easier is when you do it more and more. And the hardest time, it's probably gonna be the first time and then when you you can maybe almost like develop the things that you are going to say to the people Hey, this is this, this because of that confrontation, you tell me that you know you're going to up against and something that I really love is the fact that you said that you still go to your dad's great party and not eat the junk food that he's put on front of you. Because for you, you know, you're better off without that. So many people would say are, but I'm Greek. And so that means that we have to have these foods like our dude, food is everything when it comes to a great family. So I have to go and I have to please my grandma, I have to please my mom, I have to please my dad by having this this system this when it came to and I mean, obviously, you've almost got a story that makes it people would say makes it easier because you can say I had a stroke. And this food makes me feel like I'm gonna have a stroke again. Was there still the ifs and buts from the family though when it came to that situation?
Yeah, because what you call junk food and what I call junk food that and called junk food Exactly. Okay, they just call it part of life. That's what we grew up with. You know, we put a little bit of stuff on the bread, we ate a meal that didn't realize that we're eating it because it was feeling. So I would go to these these events and still do. Mum has got this emotional connection to food. And if we're eating, she has fulfilled her life duties as a mum, her child is fed, everything is okay. There's all this warm and fuzzy stuff that's going on. And my mom would take offense to the fact that I wasn't eating her food. Yeah. Personally, she would say like, why don't you want to eat anymore? Like, I can't cook you anything anymore? And I'd say mom, it's not that you can't cook for me. It's just that that food, specifically the bread and all the pasta, makes me feel unwell. And I had to, I had to do the really emotional thing on her and said, What do you want me to feel unwell? to convey the basic skill? Yeah. She said, No, of course not. And I said, Look, Mom, well, then what you got to understand is, I love you, and I love your food. that food is not for me, I've just changed my body is different now. And now, that doesn't work for me anymore. And now I have to not eat it. So I can feel better all the time. That's kind of how the conversation went. So she now cooks everything. And it's okay with me just not eating certain parts of it. Yeah. And she'll say to me, have you had to fill? And I'll say, look, I have had my fill. I've had it on your amazing chicken, or your amazing veggies? Or you know, you're amazing. Whatever. Yeah, I'm not eating pasta, and I'm not in Listen, I'm not eating that. And if and if you don't make it for me, I don't have to get on it. You don't have to worry about a lot. I'm not going to get offended. I'll just say what you make. I don't care what it is. Yeah,
yeah, it's a I mean, once again, does come down to those really powerful conversations. And it's usually with the people that are closest to the ones that you love the most that you had to have the hardest conversations with. because like you said, you offended her start with and for some people, that would be enough to be like, I can't disappoint mom, like, Oh, fuck it, I'll just every time I go see mom, that's what I'll do, then I'll just have that that little bit enjoy. That might be my anointing for that. But that if that's the worst thing, then that's the worst thing. Whereas it's like, No, you can have that conversation. So you never have to have that undoing that you can thrive from the start. That's easy enough. But it does revolve, it does involve a conversation that you might not want to have that you have to have, because it's going to benefit you as a person. And something that I think is a really good point as to all of this stuff that you're talking about is every time that you've put focus into you, as a human being as you as a person, and you've put you first that you've started to thrive and all these good things around, you have started to happen. And this is something that we typically find across the board that when people care about themselves and putting a lot of effort to themselves as an individual, they can give so much more to everyone and everything around them.
Yeah, you know, what was really cool about the chip that I made, was that I found people like you and Stacy, in all walks of life, in places that I never thought they would be, which then encouraged me, which then meant that, oh my god, I'm not the only person who thinks like that, because I'm therefore no longer the black sheep in the family. And then I started to interact with those people, I started to learn from those people, they put those people learn from me that inspired me more. And then I created a circle of people outside of my original circle of friends who I still have, I didn't cast them aside. You know, I created another circle of people that I could confide with and friends that also supported this version of me, this part of me. And we're just as willing to accept me as I was, as the other people initially were willing to accept who I was. And, and that is what kind of got me Got me sort of really taking it to the next level and really making me feel good about putting focus into those areas. And then the more I did that, the more I got out of it, and so on. And now what I do it consciously, it just happens now. Yeah, you know, I go to an event and I meet you, Maddie, and we talk for what what seemed like you like 10 or 15 minutes, and from 10 or 15 minutes has come such amazing conversations that I've got to meet Stacey, I've got to learn about what you do. I love promoting what you do. Because now like, I know that you guys exist. But before I was just looking for people to confirm that what I needed to do was work too much smoke, a shitload, you know, drink this and don't do that, and whatever. And I found them in abundance. And now I'm looking for the other people, and I'm finding them in abundance. And it's easy. I don't even have to make an effort.
Yeah, I do. That's That's incredible. Man. I think there's, there's definitely so much that we've touched on already. But I do want to hear a little bit more about your story of what happened when you went in for surgery.
So yeah, so what happened was, they finally said that we've had enough of you avoiding surgery and trying not to go under the knife. And you can understand I don't want anyone over my head up, you know if we can avoid it. Yeah. So eventually, my surgeon came in and said, we've got to go in, Are you up for it, because this thing is the resolve itself, we don't want it to continue and get to the point where it puts you or somebody else at risk, you might be driving, have an episode and kill someone or die. Yeah. So we decided to do that. And when we did do that, I was in the best physical condition I had ever been in. And I was so prepared for surgery. And I said to her Yep, let's just go for it. Let's do this. And I remember going into surgery, and not knowing what to expect afterwards. But I was telling my doctors, all the people around me all the state and state geologists and all those people telling them that I'm going to be the best patient you've ever had, I'm gonna, I'm gonna take care of myself to turn up. So you guys can do a great job in it. And we can have a great outcome, you know. And that's what we've got, we've got a really good outcome. But during the surgery, to get to the faulty blood vessel, they had to go in four centimeters from the ear. And on the way through, something has been interfered with that created this numbness on the left side. And that is permanent. Now it doesn't go away. It's been there since November 2014. And because I can still feel a little bit through that side, we were able to retrain the brain to learn when my foot was on the ground. And when my hand is holding something, it took about a month in rehab before I got home. But prior to that what I was doing, and this is the really powerful part was I was imagining myself walking, and I was imagining myself used by hand through meditation. Because when you do that visualization, you're firing off the same new path ways that you want to create when you're actually working. So I was doing that for about two or three days, I was convinced that I was going to walk no matter what. And, and I was probably going to walk whether I was convinced about it or not. But I still put that much effort into every moment of my day. So when I learned how powerful visualization was, I use that now in all aspects of my life. I visualized myself being somebody who coaches, other stroke survivors and supports them, I visualized myself as someone who's a mentor, as somebody, you know, who helps people heal themselves and give support and empathy and all that kind of stuff. And that's starting to occur now. And it's not foreign to me, this visualization made it so that it's not foreign. When I got out of hospital, I went home just before Christmas in the in December 2014. And then I continued outpatient rehab, and it took me a good, it took me a bit a good five or six months to get back to work. I'm fully actively, and to continue growing, growing myself and my business and then start sharing all the stuff that I've learned so that other people going through what I had been through doing it not as hard. So they're doing it a little bit easier than I had to do it.
Yeah, that's absolutely incredible. And visualization is an absolutely incredible piece. And you said something, I was probably going to walk anyway. But I feel like he would have brought it forward leaps and bounds. Bye, bye. if not weeks, months, like realistically, by putting that thought pattern into work every single day, and now utilizing it to do and wishing the things that you're wanting to do. It's absolutely incredible. And I mean, I want to touch back on that, because it's something that both days, and I do like we do daily visualization practices, I start my day off with visualizing how my day is going to go, I also visualize where I want to be in three years time, like I've got this very, very clear picture of what I'm doing, and where I'm at. And then I also have like, it's almost like a dream lyst visualization that I do is like, Hey, I'm going to be driving this car, or I'm going to be flying this plane, I'm going to be doing this thing it's like, these are the things that I want to achieve. Not because this is like the the thing that I need in life. But it's because if I can dream really, really big, then I know that I'm going to I'm somewhere close to that and achieve somewhere close to that. And it's like you said you you visualize doing the things that you really want to be doing. And all of a sudden you're now doing them. And it's like just crazy what it can actually do for you as an individual and how far it can take you. And I think one of the big things around visualization and around law of attraction is the fact that you start to care about those things, you start to think about them more and more often. And you start to act the way that you need to act to be that person that in that visualization instead.
Yeah. And you start to find the things come into your awareness that you weren't saying before that were there that help you achieve those goals and do those things that you want to do. The other thing about what you said about I brought forward my walking and all that type of stuff? Yeah, well, in fact, I was booked into rehab to two months. And at a month, they said, Man, you're good to go. There you go. The proof is in the pudding.
Yeah, that's inside.
It was just, it was amazing work. I just, I and then I felt really powerful after that, because I had never done those things before. I'd never put so much effort into me and my well being and all that type of thing. And I had always put the effort into doing things for other people so that I could get paid for other people so that I could get the next job for other people. So I could make them happy. But I wasn't making myself happy. You know, and now I don't work for you. If if you're not going to pay me what I want. I'm not working for you. Simple as that. Yeah. And I don't want an excessive amount of money. But I need enough to feel like I'm being valued in the transaction that's occurring.
Yeah, there's value in yourself, firstly, but I mean, the other thing is, is that you're you know exactly what you're offering. And you know that what you offer is going to add so much value to that person that anything under that amount is not worthwhile. So it's not there's not going to be, like you said is not appreciated. So why would you go out and put your money in sorry, your time into that that person, when they're probably going to be the people that turn around and say, Hey, what about this? What about that and complain anyway, they're not going to see the service, the value in the service. So I mean, something that I really lacking appreciated, what you just said is that you're adding? Sorry that you added that you were working for money, you weren't working for the people beforehand, whereas now you're working for the people and the money is coming, which is really important. Yeah,
that's it. So I'm offering a service. And I'm offering, like I'm offering on being so I'm serving first, and I'm getting rewarded. So I just shifted the people that I'm serving, and they're rewarding me appropriately. And it's never a conversation of That's too much. Or can you discount this? Or can you do that. And I'm like, so thankful because that reduces the stress. And that reduces the distrust and the dislike of being at that job. And then that makes it a whole lot easier for me to go to work and have a better day, and then come home and not be cranky, and cook a meal and talk to my wife and my children. And the the one the guy that I want to turn up as instead of the guy who was turning up cranky, because I didn't realize how other people were influencing my level of happiness and satisfaction.
Do you find that sometimes you just want to revert back, sometimes you get home and it would be easier to just go and sit in the couch or just be easier to go and get this food because it's just the easy way out. But then all of a sudden you have to switch yourself on.
Now not anymore. I did it initially, but not anymore. And the reason I don't anymore is because I'm not a addicted to sugar anymore. So I don't have dumb cravings. Yeah, I relatively high fat diet, and good fats, right. So I'm satiated for longer periods of time. So I'm not being controlled by my food. Yeah. And I really appreciate the taste of a good meal. Like if I come home, and I eat something, even if it's just something I might go to lazy meal is bacon and eggs. I don't care whether it's breakfast, lunch or dinner. Because I don't play. Yeah, and I know they're really super healthy if they are really good eggs. And if it's really good bacon, a check in some avocado, and a check in some Greek white feta cheese, you know a little bit to make the avocado bit salty. And like it's a complete meal, a few tomatoes or whatever, mushrooms and it's a complete meal and I don't care. And I don't care for going to something that's just going to fill my guts anymore because my guts say to me like you're done wrong by us. That's not food, or how about, you know, we have a diarrhea episode or, you know, whatever. And I get instant feedback now and what I used to say about diarrhea previously is because I still have it a lot. I used to think that it was just my body are well my body is a bit weird and sensitive. And it does this from time to time. Sugar used to do that to me dramatically and cited gluten. And so the dairy, those three things, if you combine sugar in a coffee, and you had a sandwich, like I was always creating this opportunity for my stomach to just freak out and go we don't want that stuff in there. Get it out. And I always thought that it was an issue with my gut. I didn't realize that it was an issue with these inflammatory foods and my body being smart going let's just get rid of get this out of the body quickly because we don't want this you know, so I have lazy days and my lazy days like I said, my dad just biking the next woman How could you go wrong with
bacon and eggs on a lake diets just the ideal perfect meal, you know, the biggest disappointment I got about getting healthy. And cookie, my own food was I really used to love going out for breakfast. And now when I got for breakfast, it takes a lot to really impress me. Whereas I used to be impressed by any meal that bring out because it was food I wasn't eating commonly, commonly. Whereas now it's like it really takes a really delicious breakfast for me to be like, Okay, that was well worthwhile. Like that was that was everything it should have been due to eating out of the cafe and then just serving up something like bacon and eggs, like you're saying, which is what you have on a lazy day.
Never got your back?
Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Like I, I very rarely go out and enjoy a meal out now. And when when I do go and have breakfast out, there is definitely the bread left to the side and all that kind of stuff. I'll ask them not to bring it out. Yeah. And I do, I do try to minimize the types of meal. So I'm very predictable steak and beverages. Yeah, or steak and whatever. And I know that if I go for those things that can be really get them wrong. Yeah. Or it might be going to go all out, I'm gonna have fish and chips, you know. So I try not to do all the dramatic, you know, weird and fabulous, like master shift kind of food. I'm not into that stuff. Yeah, just real basic flavors, you know, real back to, you know, what we would have done when we were, you know, just foraging and hunting and, and gathering like, that's all I needed. And I just just need just real simple salt and pepper and that kind of stuff like it. It just completely satisfies me in my body says thank you, you know, my brain switches on and it says thank you, you know, and the next day, I don't feel sluggish. And I don't have a gut ache. And I don't I don't have a heart palpitation and like, everything just settles and it's just beautiful, United just nourishing,
not That's incredible. So, I mean, I think there's been so many different insights in this one. I mean, obviously, how much you put into your lifestyle really gives back to you as an individual. And the things that you do can Holly affect you as a person and if you are sick individual that it can and more than likely is a direct response to the food that you're eating, the stress that you've got in your life, the sleep that you're not getting the the different pieces that you're putting into your life style, like it is a puzzle, and the different pieces that you're putting in that just aren't fitting, it just is not a healthy way for you to get longevity out to life is pretty much the most backwards way you can go. So I mean, Bill, you do run a podcast, which is called recovery after stroke. And I think it's incredible, because like I said, At the start of the podcast, you're helping people who are going through the situation that you went through, and you're fast tracking them. Or you're helping people who have been in the situation where their dad or their mom or their cousin or their son has had a stroke, and you can then help them as a support network, which is absolutely crazy. And I think the things that you're doing is just above and beyond, because realistically, like you said, if you had these things back in the day, it would have absolutely just helped you out and you probably you potentially wouldn't have had the second blade or the third blade, who's to know really, but you've turned this pain point into such a successful thing. Because it's helping others it's it's giving purpose to individuals, and it's really helping to move them forward and progress them forward. So what I would like to do is get any of your socials or anything that you want to pass on to the members and the listeners, what do you Where, where should they go to follow along? And where should they go to, to listen in?
at the website is recovery after stroke.com. The podcast is available on Apple, and wherever else you can get a podcast from as well as right through the website, right? Yes, well straight through the website. You can get me on Instagram, Graham, it's at recovery after stroke. And on there, I share little tips and little videos about what I'm doing what I'm up to what I'm thinking is where I share the previous to my podcasts where we have a really amazing conversation with the people that interact. And my the stuff that I do is, you know, targeted to stroke survivors. But it's actually stuff that you do pretty much that's targeted to your audience. But all the stuff we're talking about is not just for your audience of mine, it's for a general audience, and anyone can get to it, why I love to share my stories because I nearly died. So people who have been through that and nearly died can relate to me because they come out of it and or they or they got away with it. But what I want to do is I want to end the podcast by saying that I lost two mates of mine in the last three months, both of them in their 40s way too early to die. And I know that they were basically the spirit image of me and they didn't get away with it. They died for other reasons, but they didn't get away with it, I had a second chance. And if you're gone through some serious disease or, or not, or being not well, and you got away with it, start impacting your life in a positive way. So you can get a better outcome than my teammates got. There's a point not being here for your family and friends. And it's easy to do. It's the same amount of energy that you used to be unwell is the same energy that we just, you know, switch over to us to be well. And that's all it is. And what I hope to teach people through my podcast is the stuff they didn't know they needed to know Maddie. Yeah,
That's where the gold is. You just don't know what you need to know until Maddie and Stacy says, Hey, what about this, and then all of a sudden you go? Well, I didn't even know that was a thing. So that's kind of where I'm at. Now, if anyone wants to reach out, can send me an email via the website, like I said, which is recovery after strength calm. Or they can go to Instagram and send me a direct message, follow me. And I'll be glad to, you know, to interact and talk with them and whatever, you know, whatever they need on their
day. That's that's really powerful man, and sorry for your loss. But I mean, like you said, you use it as a powerful note and something to move forward with and empower others. And realistically, something maybe sometimes people need a slap in the face. And maybe this is the podcast, the thing that might change some people. So I think if if you're in a situation where you do need help, please do feel free to reach out to bill or likewise from us. Like, we're always happy to help you as an individual. We're happy to hear your story. But I'm also happy to help you change. And I think if you can come to us with a willingness to change that I'm going to be 100% on your side, as I'm sure bill would be as well if you were to go to him. So like realistically, the thing that we're trying to say is that there's plenty of help out there, you just have to be willing to make that first step. And you don't how to do it by yourself as never, never think that you have to go through by yourself. Because there's people I bill and people like ourselves who did go through a boss cells. And that's why we've created out of a pain point position that we can help you from now. So I mean, realistically, this has been this has been really cool podcast, I knew it was going to be good going into it. But I've really, really enjoyed a bill. So thank you so much for the chat, dude. I think it's been very insightful. And I feel that the listeners have got a lot out of it. And so listeners If you did, please share it around, pass it on to your friends, if you know someone who's had a stroke, I don't care if you don't share this podcast, but share Bill's podcast to them because the things that he is doing is really, really helping people in that situation who have either had a stroke or the family members of the people who are having the strokes. This is something that is super insightful. And I just I want to thank you bill for doing the work that you do. And it's really really cool to see that you've taken that pain point and you use it to help other people. And I just don't want people to get the to the state where they were they hit rock bottom. Never like always know that you can start now you can start doesn't have to be tomorrow doesn't be Monday, it can be now.
Yeah, the good thing about rock bottom. It's a perfect place to start
from exactly what I did. Awesome. Thank you so much, Bill. Appreciate it.
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