ThinkComputers Podcast #201
3:24PM Nov 28, 2019
What is up guys welcome to the thing computers a weekly tech podcast This is Episode 201. And of course this episode is brought to you by Amazon if you go to think computers org forward slash Amazon in happened to purchase something that gives us a little kickback and of course keeps the podcast on going with me is my co host Ryan what's up Ryan?
Not much. How are you? I'm, I'm ready for Thanksgiving, but I'm not actually going to Turkey this year. So we know what turkey No, I mean, we had a Thanksgiving thing at work on Monday, and I had turkey then but there won't be any turkey tomorrow. We're doing a live a brunch, like 10am tomorrow and then a dinner and we're doing like a gourmet loaded baked potato bar type of thing. So
it's okay, so like you're not like going vegan or
don't turn I've had four Thanksgiving dinners and it's Wednesday and it's not even Thanksgiving yet what a lot of friends giving so I have three friends givings and then I was at Whole Foods and I was just like it was the middle of the day and I needed to get lunch and they had like the you know Whole Foods has like their buffet Yeah, but I I got they had like Thanksgiving dinner there and I was loaded up I yeah, it's probably it was very expensive, but it was really good at the same time so cool. Um, but yeah, I'd like to more dinner so I'll be you know, good 20 pounds heavier.
After this week, I think just with the eating and everything like that, but yeah,
guys, let's, let's not talk about me getting fat. Let's talk about tech. And we'll start with our reviews this week. And I took a look at another course their lighting product. We talked about it last week, and we have their IQ Ls 100 and this is kind of their take on smart light strips. So We've seen smart light strips we've seen I mean, we all know RGB strips or light strips. Smart light strips are a little bit harder to find, but you know, ones that you can control with software. You know, we have them from razor NZ XT, maybe a couple others I don't know who else really offers ones with full software control. But this is of course there's take on it. So they've done things a little bit differently than other companies. When you think of, you know, like a like a light strip or an RGB strip, you think of this really thin, you know, really thin
strip strip or some adhesive on the back and a little white remote that looks like this. Yeah, there you go.
But what they've done is they've made the strips a little bit bigger, you can see they're much bigger and they put this diffuser on it and that's the good part about it. So the diffuser obviously makes it so if you've ever attached light strips to save Like the back of a desk, you can see each individual LED.
Yeah, I'm glad they've really started to go with with this diffuse light because it still looks good, you know with the normal older style, but this makes it look so much better.
Yeah, so the diffuser is awesome on the strip and then you see these little squares right here. So these little squares are actually magnetic, which is really cool. So instead of having like, you know, three M adhesive on the bottom, they actually give you these little squares that you attach the squares to whatever you're attaching this to come in then the light strips just kind of click in because they're magnetic. And this has its pros and cons I would say. One is that if you want to mount the somewhere else, you're kind of screwed because you've already attached the little square, whatever you're mounting them to.
A pretty strong magnetic like yeah,
it's it's not crazy strong like you can It's strong enough where you can put these upside down on some time. But it's like if you bump them though the strip will fall off
pretty easily then
not pretty easily. But if you bump if you bump it, it's going to fall off. I don't think that's as much of an issue because again, these strips are designed to either go behind a monitor or like go on a desk. You know, but I just think that once you run out of these little squares, you know, if you once you install this somewhere else, you're kind of screwed. But I think in the same way, the other ones are kind of like that too, because like, once you use that adhesive, it's going to be hard to stick it on something else. So I guess you're kind of screwed both ways. But the thing that's interesting about these is that they are thick. So my whole idea is I actually wanted them to put them on the outside of this new desk I have, but they're too thick for that. It just doesn't look right because you have this black
piece and all of that cabling In between the strips themselves,
yeah, it's just not like cohesive to that. So, what I did is I actually installed them on the bottom side of the desk, and they look really good. You know, it's, it's just, I just I don't know, I, I don't know why they're so thick, you know?
Yeah. Because especially, you know, does this use their capex
Do you happen to know it because those are, you know, even smaller and less power so I'm kind of curious to why they are so thick because the diffuser really doesn't look like it's that thick.
Yeah, if you if I go back to the second page here, you know, if you go in early, that's the first page if you look at it, I mean, what is all this because here's the diffuser and then a LED strip should be like super thin and that should be it now. Are they flexible at all? Yeah, they do band. Okay. So you can technically bendings
I don't know What the, all the spaces?
Yeah, so that was just kind of like a kind of limits, I guess where you can put these again, course they're really designed these for the back of a monitor. So just gonna put that out there like you're, it's not really going to matter how thick they are, if they're behind the monitor, you know what I mean? But if you want to mount them to like the edges of your desk, you are it's just not going to look right in my opinion. So what I did is I installed them on the bottom of the desk, and then it comes with this little controller here. This is their Ls 100 controller. It has a USB that goes into your computer for control then it has power. And then you have to you have two inputs for RGB control. So the single kit that you get, that's $119 that comes with two long strips and two short strips, which should be more than enough for a decent size desk as well as more than enough for a ultrawide monitor. Like a dual monitors. You might need get it, they have extensions and things like that, that you can buy. But that should be more like the starter kit should be more than enough for most people. Yeah, and then everything Of course, because they're, you know, they're called IQ, Ls 100 everything's controlled within IQ. So, you know, under your devices, you'll see the LS 100 starter kit. And then what you do is under your lighting setup, you have your lighting channels, and you know, we use both channels because we had some extensions that they sent us as well. And then you know, you I selected external RGB light strips, you can select monitor, you know, and then the order that you have it in so I had to or how many strips are connected. So I had two short strips and three long strips connected to this one. And then I had one short strip into long strips connected to the second channel. And then once you have everything set up, you can go in and set your settings and was really cool because this is a Rgp not just RGB is I can actually go In here and select each individual, each individual RGB LED. You can see in real time like with these, if I was in the app, I could move strip over here, you know what I mean? Like I could just move them yeah, I can move them in the order that they would go in, which is really cool. So you really have full control on what these are doing. Which is really great. You can link them together Of course you can link them with other course their RGB lighting, like fans in your case or whatever it may be. The software is awesome, it works
Like here's like where I just selected a handful of RGB is you know, you can go ahead and do that. And it looks really good. I again, I installed these on the bottom side of a desk but you can even see even though they're installed on the bottom, you have a lot of gives a good
glow on the wall behind there, you know, yeah, so is there quite a bit of light that comes out the side then since that that diffuser is kind of thick, it's not just shining out the top of it, but it looks like obviously some light comes out the side as well.
Yeah, so the light comes out the side a lot, I was actually surprised at how much light these give off even though like my desk is, you know, decently high off the ground, right. There's a lot of room for like the light to go places I would say. But yeah, I mean it lights up very well. You can see the different colors here. I mean, it really it really lights things up, especially if you're in a darker room. It looks great. And what's cool is like, it's with the software. So there's a lot of cool things you can do. You can do like tracking LEDs, like in our case, you know, we could have like, say like tracking LEDs and start here and go all the way across. You can have them react to music, you can have them react to games, you can do a lot of stuff with these. So it's really full RGB control. We weren't able to test it but they do have much like the nzxt t ambient kit where it reacts to what's going on in your game because we didn't attach them to a monitor. We weren't able to test that But from what I've seen, you know, it works really well. You know, you can see just like how much like they give off, but they're definitely really bright. I like the change as far as the diffuser. I think that that's been needed on RGB strips for a long time. But just because of how thick they are, they're not as easy to attach to certain things that makes sense. As far as like, it would just look weird with a thick thing coming off the edge of my desk. You know what I mean?
Right? Yeah. I mean, their work fine, like on the bottom or even on the back edge, and it probably wouldn't be so bad. But yeah, that thickness and bulkiness of them's kind of odd. But and
there's one thing that I really wish it would have happened. So when you so these right here, the three in the middle, those are the magnetic ones, but the magnetic part is only on the back. Okay, so it's me it's only on the bottom. So like this part right here on the side. That's not magnetic now. That was I could line these up flush with the back of my desk and it wouldn't look as weird. You know what I mean? Yep. So like, I wish that was it was a thing, I guess. But yeah, like I said for for smart LED strips or smart RGB LED strips, they work rates you're going to get full control if you're already in the Coursera ecosystem and content just makes sense. Exactly. You know, like, you're already in the course or you can system you can have if you have you know, of course your keyboard and mouse and you might have some course their fans in your system. Yeah, you can have everything synced up. It just makes sense. I don't think the price is too outrageous 119 which would cover pretty much a deal. Like this desk is super big, so it wouldn't cover this whole desk but it would cover the entire back of the desk.
You know, that's for too too long strips too short strips, correct?
Yes. Okay. And that would cover like a 34 inch ultra wide it would cover that no problem. would cover pretty much you know, most things. It's just if you want to do like, if you had dual monitors, like do larger monitors, you might want to get an extension, they do sell extensions. We have I think I have the links to or the, maybe I don't to the extensions. I don't, but the extensions aren't that much more because again, the starter kit does come with a controller, it comes with everything else, just the extensions are just the strips. So you can you know, go ahead and add them in. And what's nice about it is that you can add them in. Sometimes you're kind of just like set with what you have, you can you can add more strips, there is a limit because of the I guess, power with the impedance and everything. Yeah, but you should with they sent us both extensions, the 250 millimeter and the 400 or 450 millimeter. I didn't even use all of that on this massive desk. So for me Most applications you should be fine. Cool.
So check the review like I said I gave it nine out of 10. Again, the only cons of it is that one that it's thicker than other RGB strips that kind of limits where you might want to put it and I didn't mention that the diffuser because of what it's made out of like it like I dropped out on the floor or on the ground and it just picked up dust like it's a dust magnet so
kind of a rubbery feel to it or
yeah oh man like it doesn't it when you play games with a backlight? I think I do. I do like it more I've come used to it like when I got that nzxt t kit I just I just like having the backlight even now like I have the lights on behind my screen and then sure, yeah,
yeah, I don't have mine on. I do now.
You gotta have hot man. Come on.
Yeah, there we go.
But yeah, guys, check out that review. It's It's good. I think that I think so. used to have RGB strips just on my desk. And then I got that NZ XT kit and put them on my monitor and I like I love them behind the monitor just like for any air I've gotten so many questions about it to like it just completes my whole setup. It's just awesome.
Clean so definitely check out that review. And then I took a look at some storage and some portable storage and some pretty hefty portable storage. Yeah, that's
decent amount of portable storage.
Yeah, I took a look at WD my passport. This is the 2019 version. They've increased the capacity to five terabytes which is the highest book, you can technically get more storage but for like a portable drive by reputable company, five terabytes is kind of where the max is right now. And the thing I like about it is that this drive is still pocketable. Like I can still put drive in my pocket. It's bigger than like say like an SSD, but I can still put it in my pocket. And it's 100% bus powered so it's a single cable. You don't need extra power for this or anything like that so you have it around. I didn't I haven't plugged in. Sorry It's over there. I just quite
catch like I thought a republic it is in your hand.
Yeah, it's not very big. It's like their standard size again, it can be pocketed and that's really what I really like about it. They have different capacities. I think it starts at one terabyte and goes up to five terabytes for this. Very affordable as well. Uses USB 3.2 Gen one. So basically USB 3.1 since they changed the name all the time.
But yeah, it is a great little drive. The only issue that I had with it is that it uses a type a cable and being a portable drive via so many ultrabooks and of course Mac books, this does work with Mac,
no type a port,
there's no type a port, even an adapter I would have been fine with we've seen portable drives come with adapters Sure. I just would have liked to see that just for the fact that it's, you know, it's a portable drive and like, well, there's not a whole lot of ultra books that have type A ports anymore. And if they do, they're like a legacy USB 2.0. Right. Yep. So yeah, so but the drive itself, like I said, very small, very portable. What's really weird is that for the five terabyte version, it's only available in this black here. It's not available in blue or red, which anything four terabyte and below is, so that's a little odd to me, I'm weird. But the great thing about this is and and what WD is has done for a while is that they have software and you don't have to pay extra for it, you know, and you get like a hard drive, you get like a trial, or you get, you know, like a year free or whatever, up some software and then you maybe have to buy it later or it's not the company software. So something happens you really can't deal with a company that you actually bought the drive from? Well with WD it's all their software. So they have a really nice software package that does every thing, from backup to security to everything, it's all here. Their backup software is super simple. You just set it back up, you can set it up. So you know you select your drive, you select how often you want it to back up. And then you can select different files, different folders, whatever you want to backup every you know, again, I had set for hourly, but it's super easy to set up. And then the security you can set a password on the drive. This drive does offer hardware encryption, which some other drives do not. You have that in there as well. You can also through their discovery software, like download your complete social media profile, which might be you know,
might be good. If that's something you want to do like you're closing out your Facebook account, you want to download
everything up, right?
Yeah, this software actually allows you to do that as well. It's just a full package. And that's what I kind of like about this drive when compared to other drives like other drives will give you again, like access to some software for a little bit of time but you don't get the full version or something like that. You have everything here. It comes on the drive. You don't have to download anything you don't I mean, you just run it from the drive itself. Just good drive. Like I said, I didn't really have any issues it performs just like any of these drives would run like, one 130 megabytes a second.
Yeah. And regarding performance old man was asking if they're using SMR technology and they are
Yeah, yeah, that's something they newly implemented in the drive. I think it's what allows them to hit the high higher capacity. Yep. So yeah, so like I said, it performs just like any, you know, USB 3.1 Drive would be as far as like being a normal hard drive. And I think I think it's good. I think if you need a lot of storage, this is an easy solution. It's also one that you could just plug in and it will backup all your stuff. You know what I mean? Like, you can set the software so when you plug it in it just bashed everything up. Yeah. So it's pretty, pretty easy to work with their the five terabyte version is 128 49. A slight premium. I would say for
given us a password that's not too bad though Honestly, I mean form factor, you know, the software you get. I think that's a pretty respectable price there and the fact that you know, like you said, hooking it up to your laptop and backing up automatically like you just take that around all your PCs in your house that have the software on them, you know, run them run it through, get it back up and then go take that thing down to like your safe deposit box at the bank and there's your backup right just like yeah, throw it out there and be good so
Yeah, I agree. I mean it like I said, when it comes to the portable drives, I love the my passport I've reviewed probably at least seven or eight of them over the past few years. I mean, and the thing is, is I talked about in the review is like when they started doing the my passport drives, it was just a drive you didn't get any software didn't get anything. WD you know, made the investment and now they have a full software package. So you don't have to worry about anything you don't have to worry about like now I have to go research backup software like what should I get? You know, I don't have to pay a monthly fee. To use a certain piece of software or whatever, you know, it's all there. So that's what I really like about it. So check out that review I gave this one a nine out of 10. And again, the only issue I really had with it, there's no type C cable. I think in this day and age,
we got to start including that
if it's a portable drive I get if it's not a portable drive because PCs that we're going to have a Type A but it's a portable drive ultrabooks max. They're all there. It's all type C now so at least at least include an adapter if not the entire cable. That's the only thing. So yeah, so yeah, let's move on to other stuff. And I finally completed my debt. Well, I haven't completed my desk setup because it's ever evolving. And I've already like looked at stuff I want to get for it. But I completed the video going over one cable management you guys complained to me so much about the cable management. On my setup. It was bad. It was a little bit of a mess. It was a It was a complete mess. And I didn't
address it when I first built it because for me, I like I wanted to get the desk built and then get up and running because it wasn't like a just a setup that I just have sitting over here. It's like what I use. Yeah, exactly. So I had to get set up and just done and at the time, I didn't have everything that I needed. Like, I got these really cool. Under desk cable trays that help hide everything. It just worked out really well. I'm offering up me in the video. But yeah, so here's all the stuff that I did. So again, I go over installing the the IQ Ls 100 that we talked about. I have the under desk cable trays. I have a monitor arm now. So I monitor that's in front of me is on a monitor arm so I can move it back and forward.
Yeah, the head headset holder that you you've got I have one very similar and it looks like it's probably from the same company. The little under desk. Oh yeah, mine was like a rubber one. And I liked it. But the adhesive just ended up falling off you know with with headsets after sometimes I'm I'm curious to see how long years last but yours was like aluminum or metal so yeah
so the actual you can kind of see it right here. It's so I had that I had that coolermaster one I liked it It had a wireless charger. But the thing about the wireless charger that was kind of the reason I didn't want to stick with it is that it set my phone flat and I want to see notifications I don't have to pick up my phone all the time. So I have one that actually puts my phone up but you can see it but I wanted to. I wanted to go to this part of the video because I'm very proud of my cable management's dealing cables coming down is my network here. And some power and that's it. These cable trays are are just amazing. You put all your cables in there, you don't have to worry about it. It looks great. Let's see if I you know, on the desk itself, I have that little anchor charger right here. I have my Alexa right there. Which one's gonna go off now? You know, I got this massive
massive Master, right? Yeah, it has RGB lighting and when I have the lights on, you can't see the RGB lighting as much but I love the big mouse man. I didn't. I like got it in and I was like, I don't even know if I'm actually going to use this but I do like using it. It just makes it sound like one cohesive workspace if that makes sense. So I have that. It just works. It works like the whole thing worked out really well for me. The you know, like I said everything in it has just worked out really well. And I go over everything in the video I go over all of my all the stuff I used, how I did it, all that kind of stuff. So definitely check out this video. It's better for them. It's better for you guys to watch it than me trying to tell you about it and click through the video. So definitely check that out. It's on our YouTube page. So I had a lot of fun with that one. That was that was a lot of fun. Do and I feel like I accomplished something like when you do like a, like a regular video review, you're like, Okay, reviews done, but like this, like, it impacts me every day because I'm sitting at the desk setup. And I bet you every day. So I really liked like
that I think that arm is going to be real functional for you, like, you know, you bring it forward when you're working on something and then at the end of the day or whatever, just pushing it back a little bit out of the way, you know? Yeah, that's pretty sweet.
Yeah, and the guys in the chat about the RX 5500. We don't know when it's going to be released yet. We talking about it here and pretty soon as we get down to our news, so definitely hang out. And
Oh, I don't know what will be released. I don't know. But hopefully it will be soon. But we're move on to case on Friday, and I finally picked the build that has nothing to do with
the last two weeks. We had a suitcase
suitcase mod and then the week after that we had a sort of like lap. I can shoot.
It was that Iron Patriot right here. The iron the iron Iron Man.
Yeah. But this week We have a build inside of the thermaltake core p 90. This is called the core p 90 Royal Lita from high relative high resolution computer shop, I forget what country they're out but they do amazing work and all they're so good. And they, they like take really great pictures of their stuff as well. So this is this is the build and there's so much going on. And it's because it's like in because of the glass. It's kind of hard to see. But there is custom resin here. You know, there's custom, there's some area and pretty much everything is custom but it's just so well done. I'll try to scroll through these if I can
scroll through for some reason.
Yeah, and they've got some you know, like all the lines look really nice on you know, the angles that they chose for their tubing and everything looks nice. Everything looks like it was meant to be there and been that way. So
colors, the colors scheme is like the the coolant matches the fittings really well and the cabling, it's done so well I'm trying to find a good picture, we can see kind of like, so this is like a, it's not necessarily rasp, but it runs the different tubing from side to side and you can kind of see it it's a distribution play. It's a custom distribution play that they made. That's like really awesome.
So yeah, so it's, you know,
like I said, it's a really good build. All the lines are great. You can see the customers over here as well, which looks really cool.
Yeah, it's just there's so much going on. It's so hard to see. But everything is great with its high resolutions computer shop does a great job. So definitely check out this build and as I always say, check out case on Friday we have so many builds in there. So if you're looking for you know, just some motivation to do your own bill ideas, when ideas See what's possible or if you don't, if you're new to mana, you don't even know what it's about. Go in there and you'll be like, holy crap, people do that with computer.
There's a lot of stuff in there. So definitely go ahead and check that one out. And then we have our contest still going on. So we are still giving away three, of course, there's I Hugh QL 120 RGD fancy review those couple weeks ago. And they're great. They have 36 RGB LEDs in each fan. This is super easy to enter guys. You can unlock a ton of different entries by you know, doing different things. Obviously, it's just a way for us to get back to you guys. So definitely, you know, enter if you can't, it is us only. We're kind of limited on this one. But if you are in the US definitely get your entry in. There's 20 days left. So a lot of clients. Yeah, plenty of time and you could probably, you know, if you're a winner, you can get it just in time for Christmas or whatever. So, really cool. So definitely get your entry in for that. And we are on to news and this first story is like some pretty cool it's really awesome. I don't remember anybody else doing something like this and it kind of just like brings you back to the old days where people actually did like kind of crazy monster graphics I guess. So somebody's Mon and modded a RT x 2080 ti and they they took the 14 gigabit GG Dr. g DDR six memory off of it and they upgraded it to 16 gigabit GDPR six so again the RT x 20 2080 ti ships with 14 gigabit and you can technically overclock that for quite sure but the overclocking headroom isn't great and you're not going to get great performance. So what they did is they actually taken the 16 gigabit GDPR six off of an Rt r tx 2080 Super input Which that in itself is like crazy,
right? Just one. One quarterback,
they sacrifice two cards. I'm sure they sacrifice two cards to get the memory off. Then they sacrifice almost ruining at 2080 ti by putting it back on but they completed it very awesomely. And they worked. It worked. It worked, which is the crazy thing. So it worked and recognize it it put it as 14 gigabit but then they just manually overclocked which again, if you're running 16 gigabit at 14 your overclocking headroom is going to be through the roof. So they overclocked it and they got it all the way up to 77 17.2 17.2. And they have a you know, some benchmarks and things like that. They're calling it the world's first R tx 2080 ti super which,
this kind of like what we expect, although there might be more CUDA cores unlocked and things like that on the 2080 ti super.
But that's just really cool. Hats off to these guys. We have their video in the article if you want to check it out, but I mean, could you imagine just soldering this stuff?
Like no no no like I Yeah, it sounds crazy to me like I don't even want to yeah you know I'm anxious about taking this cooler off of my 2070 Super let alone desoldering icees and put
you know when we reviewed some NVMe coolers and like even putting that on top of my nbme I was scared a little bit, right? Yeah. And to do this and to have like I feel like I'm too jittery like, like the solder these little solder points and every
just crazy. But yeah, they did it. That's it's really cool. Definitely check out the video. I just think it's awesome. I think that the the community needs more cool things like this to happen so so yeah, definitely, definitely go ahead and check that out that's really really cool. But talking about, uh you know, super cards, it looks like Nvidia could be mobile chips on Yeah, it could be oops wrong one could be
releasing both our TX and GTX super cards for notebooks. This is kind of expected is this because AMD will be releasing their rx 5000 series on mobile. we seen the leaks, we talked about them. There will be rx 5000 M series cards coming out. So this is going to make it so you know the RT x 2016 Super mobile obviously performs better than whatever AMT is coming out.
Yeah, I mean I didn't really, again, this is one of those. Do we really need a super version and the mobile? You know, so yes, but it's all it's also kind of expected you're always going to get a mobile version of of what they've got out. I just think that with the the whole super line, just add complexity to it
and adds more complexity. I like, again, we've talked about this on the desktop side, too. I like that it gives the consumers more for their money, right? The 28 he shouldn't exist, as I talked about the 2017 is great upgrade 15% upgrade from the previous gen like that's good to me. Yep. It's just it's reactionary. You know what I mean? That's just all I have to say about it at this. It's just reactionary to what AMD is doing, which is good. Competition brings us brings us consumers, better pricing, better prices. Yeah.
So so I'm happy about that for sure.
So yeah, And then also on the graphics card side, we're going to talk about the RX 5500. The guys over at hice. Somebody say that hice
So I'd say the hice. They got their hands on a rx 5500. It's an OEM card. And they tested it against an aftermarket rx 580 and a GTX 1660. The non super, and it performed really well. It's kind of like almost on the performance of say a stock rx 580. And I think that's good for AMD, because that line that was before the five at the 40 right for it. Yeah, yeah. And like, that's been the same product,
right? Yeah, they just Yeah, yeah. New badge on it.
Yeah, it's the same product and they take just to get out of that. It's all the new architecture. You know what I mean? I think that's going to be killer. For AMC, I think a lot of people have been wanting lower cost empty cars I know the the 50 750 700 Xc aren't terribly expensive, but there are people that want to spend you know, a couple hundred bucks on a card that's what they have. And they're empty fans and they want this they've been waiting for this. Now the holdouts you know, run their keep running their you know, for 80 or 580 or whatever they've got and yeah, so they did run it it it like I said, performed right up front about two and rx 580 and again, it all depends on the game that they they tested on because this is out here. It's in the wild in the chat asking like when it will come out. I would. You know, that is definitely like I said it's definitely has to be coming out soon. We have a link to their review. It's not like a super in depth review. But
I can see it coming out from before Christmas, just for the fact that like it's a little Cost Part A lot of people would be buying at Christmas time. Yeah so hopefully we see it it's exciting I think I you know for us like the low end isn't super exciting but I think it's exciting for a lot of people because markets so huge
yeah which is what we always forget his enthusiasm you know, we focus on like, the the mid to high range enthusiastic parts, but that a beginner level entry level market is so big that Yeah,
yeah, it's just like I said, it's it is it's the bigger market. And I think AMD has, hopefully they have a strong product. I've got I've got asked twice this week, what you know, is the 5700 actually a good card, like should I actually get that I'm upgrading, like I said, Yeah, like for the price compared to a 2070 or 2070. Super like it's a good card like AMD has, as they're shifting, you know, I mean, you know, so yeah, I think for the lower end, this is gonna be great for AMD. It's just another win for AMD. So yeah so check out like I said we have linked down here at the bottom to their testing and things like that you can check it out but hopefully we see it soon and hopefully we get a couple interview and we'll tell you what we think about it so pretty excited to see if that happens. And this was really interesting this week. We typically don't talk about other websites or anything like that but finally you know, this week but high end desktop parts out so we have
10 series high end desktop parts as well as thread Ripper three both came out, technically on the same day. But
a little bit of shifting of release times that sounded like
yeah, so. So Intel change their embargo, so that so that people will could launch the reviews. At midnight. There was
an emptiness was like at 9am or something. I don't Know when it was because we didn't receive the products I didn't know the specifics but
what that did is that made it so if you're a launch partner and you want to you should have your review ready to go. If it's a good night, have your review ready and launch one because you want to like show the brand that hey, yeah, I tested this like it's good to go like, you know, you can count on me for launch day reviews. Secondly is because of traffic and if you're a review site traffic more traffic means more money typically. Your anybody I mean, or if you're a YouTuber, just like you know, Linus was the one who really called out AMD on this or call it out intel on this is that you want as soon as you're able to post it, you want it. You want those views. Yep. Um, so what Intel did which is very shady. I would say or as Linus said, The thetic as the title is that they change their launch time to midnight, which basically meant if you want it to be a launch review, meaning that at midnight, your review was online, because of hmds NDA, which was hours later, you could not technically compare Intel's high end desktop parts to AMD as you could. And the whole reason is because AMD is going to beat Intel. Right?
And well, and the sad thing is, is everybody sees through it, right? Like it's, it's so obvious.
Yeah. And I mean, even Linus video he said, like, we're not idiots. And everybody's going to see through that, right like they're launching on the same day. Why don't these reviews have thread work for three in them?
Well, yeah, and people are. The thing is that thread Ripper comes out later in the day, and it's going to then have those those graphs anyhow, so you're you're not doing your Any good,
it just makes you look worse. I mean, we get it like you're stuck, like your, your process notes stuck, and you're gonna have to like eat shit for a year, you know, in any spaces, and that's fine. You've already dropped your prices, which is great. doesn't make you look so crazy. But like, just like man up and just, you know, but again, they have shareholders, they there's all these things that come into it. I don't know who made this decision at Intel put any smart person who like knows the space as far as like the enthusiast space would just be like, no, like, we got to take this hit. It's still a good part for the price, you know? Sure. And what you're getting and everything like that and what it offers, but it's eight doesn't beat the competition and we're going to have to take that for a year until we get our process know figure it out. Like,
yeah, you know, it's just crappy business practices, but like you said, you know, just as It's, it's playing with numbers and you know, just not giving the whole story to your potential consumers honestly.
Yeah, yeah, it's just not.
I mean, we've seen this before, but not this egregious, I would say. It's just not great. So. So yeah, that's all I really have to say about it. I agree with Linus and what he what he's saying it doesn't make, again, any as when he did say in his video, which we do have linked in our show notes, is that, when talking about products, the launch reviews are the ones that get referenced the most, you know what I mean? So, you know, here's a review of the 10 series. That's a launch review, so it doesn't have the graphs for for the previous one. So those are the reviews that that get referenced the most when comparing in when talking about a product. If those graphs aren't there, it makes your product look better than what it actually is. So yeah, so I agree with him. I think people at Intel are probably pissed that he put this video out. But, I mean, the writing's on the wall I would say.
Yeah, I think if if the big names like Linus and you know everybody else that kind of chimed in with their opinion didn't do that then they'd be accused of you know being sellouts or taken yeah tells cash and in order for them to stay, you know, keep their integrity I think they have to call it out. So yeah,
yeah. And oh man said competition is good. I mean, yeah, that's what it's about. It's like we had I mean, I remember the wars between all the companies back in the day and it's good to have that good when you want to like not cheat because I'm not cheating technically but like to deceive your own customer to say we're faster. And again, we saw it with me in the thing about Intel is they've had this kind of like, thing going on for like the past year and a half. Remember, like the five gigahertz chip that was running on like a internet Real cooler. I mean, write these things on anybody. Yeah, like we're enthusiastic like, we understand that you're having a problem and like that may that might make us not buy your product. But for you to do these things to make us that makes us not like your company and not want to support you and you do have a good product right? That's the difference I would say. But yeah, so on a better news up again AMD did launch their two chips which were the which 1639 3960 and 3970 x 24 core 32 core bots they did announced that they will have a 64 core thread Ripper 3990 x we heard rumors about it, but we didn't know if it was true. They said yes, this is coming out. It's coming out in 20 2064 core 128 threads 288 megabytes of total cash 280 watt TP No word on clocks or anything like that or price. The 32 core is $2,000 or 1999. So 64 core could be $4,000 i don't think
i bet it'll be 30 534 99
Yep, that's what I'm guessing 20 possibly see? Yes.
20 times 2020 it technically is 280 watt TDP that's pretty good. That's
that's that's high. I mean for for high end desktop. Yeah.
But, you know, you again, you go back to 64 cores.
So, yeah, so it's pretty cool. It seems like this week, sort of like a win for AMD on on all fronts and has been for a while and they're just doing the right things. You know, we it can be three years down the line and they might have a problem with our process. No, you don't I mean, right. Um, and things happen. It's just Again, I just I don't like the whole idea of Intel just trying to trick us because it's not a trick. We're smart. And if we're not smart people, other people are and they're going to put it out there that things are going on, you know what I mean? So yeah, that brings us to also another AMD thing. Amen. has completed their next CPU architecture, or this design phase they haven't fully or I guess they haven't put out the chip with the design phase. So they held a presentation at sc 19 conference. That's that talks about high performance computing and everything like that. They said that the Zen three architecture design phase has been finished. And this is, you know, now AMD is on that tik tok phase. So you see a die shrink. And then you see an architecture change, same thing. So Zen three will be seven nanometre, or they're going to call it 700 meter plus, because it's an improved process node, and that you should see around 15% faster IPC, which again, makes sense, right? We're not going to see that massive jump, or anything like that. But yeah, it's great. They're on track. And that's the biggest thing with these is like,
good. No, I'm just saying it feels like they like have a solid plan moving forward, right, like, and they're just doing good work and have a solid plan and are like, confident in their upcoming products. It's really nice to see.
Well, that's the thing is to it's like you remember they basically took two years off on the SVP side
You know, they they did their homework and I think are reaping the benefits of it now.
Yeah, yeah. And they're making the other guy not look very smart. You know, but I mean that they took the loss you know what I mean? They took the hit it because they were there was no competition and then they they're coming out with all the stuff and it's finally say okay, It was worth taking that time out to completely redesign our CPU architecture. Yep. And do all that. And now it's in the place. So I don't think we'll season three later in 2020.
You know, I mean, you won't see anything into you won't see any products like you're not going to see this at CES or anything like that. You're not going to see any products for a while. So but later in 2020, you might see something so definitely keep that in mind. And that brings us to gaming three gaming stores this week. We talked about HalfLife. Alex.
Yep. Just briefly,
briefly about it coming out. They announced their trailer which
home I got. It looks awesome. Yeah, it was pretty cool.
Um, it makes me want to get the game. It makes me want to get a VR headset for this game. Yeah, I guess that's the whole idea behind this game. Maybe sell somewhere head That's,
you know, I got kind of pumped in back into the VR thing. So like last Friday, I cleaned up my room got it all situated. So I spent like, four hours Friday night in VR. And then Saturday night I did the same thing. And so I'm like, maybe I maybe I should preorder this half
the trailer is so good. It makes you want to immerse yourself back into this app back into the the half life world and everything. And then they also release this. At the I think it was the game or the Game Awards or whatever. They released this video talking about how the game came to light and everything was really interesting if you want to hear the story. And then they basically said, Yeah, you can't play the game with keyboard and mouse which I was really sad about. You know what I mean? Even if I lost some of the functionality, I think I would play the game with the keyboard a mouse just because oh yeah, five so yeah. So definitely check that out. Nelson in the chats. The kickin Intel's? Yeah, AMD is kicking Intel's ass. You know. So, yeah. It's, uh, they're doing good stuff. So. So yeah, it's just, uh, yeah, I guess I have man. Did you? Could you see me buying a headset for this?
Just for that. I mean, I don't like I wouldn't recommend anybody buying a headset to play one game, especially one that you haven't even played and is only available on pre order. But if you're like already interested in VR, I see a mom and have, you know, tried it out maybe at a friend's house or demoed it somewhere and we're liking it. I could see it being
Yeah, it's just the guys I would just check out the trailer. And then old man says that a $5 Steam Controller. Yeah, Steam Controller. I not I still have one. I don't know what's that I have. I use it for a while. I used it with my Steam Machine. My old
you had a Steam Machine and my alien.
Where's the machine that I had? So yeah,
I picked him up on Black Friday sales previously right I got those and then I think I have a couple steam links as well. Okay, they've kind of canceled that but i think i picked those up for like, two weeks
mean I got my Steam link for I think $5 Yeah, yeah. So yeah, but yeah, like I said out this game just looks so good. And again, if you watch the trailer, it just brings you back into the halflife world and it's like, I want this on a PC game, but hopefully maybe this again, VR games aren't gonna sell as well as like an old PC game but if this is like a thing, maybe we will see a halflife three I hope Yeah. And of course this brings valve back into like actually coming out with games, which is a good thing too. So So yeah, we'll keep you guys updated. I think will be will be buying you the game whenever it comes out. So you can tell us about it. So
sure stream some of it or
yeah There's something like that yeah also talking about sales or somebody sales I just saw steamed announced their fall sales well but humble the the people behind Humble Bumble are humble, humble bundle. Sorry humble bundle. They have their own store as well and they sell a ton of games and they're having their sales and there's some interesting games that are on sale that weren't before have never been on sale one of them is Red Dead Redemption two it is I believe 4747 99 yeah for I think it's 15% off of the normal price they have a ton of games outer worlds is or no that's 20% of outer worlds is 25% off as well. I don't think it's ever been on sale either. But a ton of games are on sale right now their sales across I think all platforms I saw epic is having a sale too. So there's a ton of games that are on sale cool. Just like you know, Borderlands three is also on sale. No Man's Sky. Hotline Miami is under $3 it's usually five Yeah so just worth checking out all the all the game stores if you want to see a game that's on sale definitely pick it up because it's like I said just a lot a lot of games on sale for sure. So
I more more games you're buying don't play.
Yes Just think I was like I want Red Dead Redemption too and I still think I'll play it. And the reason why I won't play it is is our next story is a is that a Jedi fallen order is the fastest selling Star Wars game ever.
It's a single player, but so
yeah, and as a player
Yeah. And it's single player. And I did pick it up. Was it yesterday?
Yes, I was. I didn't buy I bought a new TV a strap on all kinds of stuff yesterday. I bought this game. But yeah, I picked it up. I played it for about a half an hour. I love the story already. It's just very immersive. Like I felt like I was playing like, the best thing about single player games is that you feel like you're playing a movie. Right, like you feel like you're in the story, you're part of it. And I felt immersed and that's the biggest thing. It's like, I didn't feel like I was sitting here at my computer, if that makes sense. Like I feel like I felt like I was in the story. So that's what's great about this game so far all up that you guys next week if I get some more time to play it, but yeah, so they said so EA LucasArts and respond said that it's the fastest selling digital launch for a Star Wars game in its first two weeks. He also said it's the fastest selling PC game for the company in all distribution formats in the same two weeks. Wow, that's that's really impressive. Um, I think the biggest thing is like Battlefront was cool when it came out. But so many people complain. There isn't a single player mode like we want the Star Wars.
The Star Wars is such a story driven, you know, franchise, and like you want to play as a Jedi and go through a story.
You know, It is cool, you know, I didn't play either one of the battle fronts and I kind of wish I did because I think they looked great and they still probably do
in the the multiplayer aspect of those was amazing. But I think this is something that we needed. You know what I mean? Like a good single player. Star Wars game. So like I said, I like it so far. I don't know. Like I said, I can't give you much more than that. You know what I mean? Sure. Um, but like I said, I would recommend it so far. If you're if you want to single player experience, that's the biggest thing too is like you kind of just want to like play a game. You don't want to play against other people and
come back to it.
Yeah. Which is kind of nice. Yeah. So if you haven't got it, I would suggest picking it up. I'll let you know how it goes. As I get through it. And these next coming, you know, coming weeks and everything like that. But yeah, and then the old man said the valve index is for 99 wasn't it? 1000?
I don't think so.
I thought it launched in 2001. was announced I could be wrong.
And then old man also said the actor for fallen order is upset on Twitter because people are replacing his character with MMA.
It was $1,000
Yeah, so it's 499 now, yeah, that's compelling.
But I gotta pick it up.
But yeah, so that leads us to what we have coming up next week and I didn't get to it this week. So I will be checking it out. Next week. I'll be taking a look at cooler masters master air ma 620 M, this is their big boy CPU cooler. It's too it's a it's a dual tower cooler with a fan in the center has some RGB lighting and everything like that looks really good. So I will have that for you guys. And then I'll be taking a look at the experi RGB DDR for memory. So they've added Archie beasted This looks pretty good as well. So I'll have that for you. And then I will be taking a look at a PCI Express 4.0 NVMe drive from sabourin. And this one has a massive cooler on it. It is huge. It's big. It's huge. And it has heat pipes, which I think is really cool and retro, I guess for all of us old schoolers out there. But yeah, so I have that for you as well. Super fast, of course is PCI Express 4.0. So I'll be testing that on X 570. So pretty, pretty pumped for that as well. And as we get to the end of the podcast we talked about if we did anything cool, anything tech related, did you do anything see anything pick anything up?
I saw frozen two in the theaters this week. Last weekend. So that was Yeah, with the kids. It was actually pretty good. I was
asked me to like she's like, I think she I know she asked me to go see her. She was gonna go see it with her friend. I was like, yeah, I'll pass on that one.
No, it's it's good. It's fine. The soundtrack isn't as good as the first time that I think there's a better movie The first one so. But I've also been like, so a while back, I brought home, like some VHS tapes and a bunch of like eight millimeter, like 90s Sony camcorder tapes, and I'm in the process of converting those and just getting them off of tapes and onto my NAS and onto the network just now How
are you? How are you doing that?
FireWire off of the Sony camera? So I'm a Sony camera hooked up to another PC with a you know a FireWire card. And the thing that sucks about it is it's tape. So you have to like play a tape to plan. It's just like, yeah, it takes forever so I just like keep an eye on them. But I think I did 11 tapes last weekend. That's awesome.
Yeah. So we'll get there I those projects are cool. And you like you do want to save those memories. And of course the way to do that is having a digital copy.
Yeah. Because even The tape goes bad.
Oh yeah, you know I have some some tapes that I found that you know have definitely deteriorated over the years and lost lost some of the video but the audio portion of the tape is still there. So, yeah, yeah, that's cool.
I did my my my desk setup as I said,
You spent like a whole day rearranging your destiny.
Oh, yeah. So that whole so if you guys watch the desk video, which again is linked or not, yeah, it's linked in our show notes which are linked below if you're watching on YouTube. That whole six or eight minute video took me literally all day. I started the morning I cleared out everything and of course as I'm doing it, I have to shoot it. Shoot and set up the
Yeah, yeah. But again, cameras.
The biggest thing was the cable management took forever, but I'm so glad I did it. Like it looks so much nicer in here without cables everywhere. Everything has its own place. It's just it's so great. So that's pretty pretty much what I did work. interviews. And yeah, that's all of our video video content review content coming out for you guys. It is. We started this last week but hopefully we'll continue it is them as Ryan likes to play games. But we will be switching over to twitch here. It's twitch TV slash thing computers, and we're playing some games. So hopefully we can watch Ryan be bad at games and I'll be joining him for a little bit over there. So definitely check that out after we get off here. If you are looking for us which just think computers all one word on your favorite podcasting app website, whatever it may be. So until next week, we will catch you guys later. See ya