8:32PM Feb 21, 2019
Hello Hi Jim add man here with that papers to be ICF yeah how you doing good thanks sorry
I yes I got I'm recording for possible radio piece as well as for the web and everything
and first of all thanks for submitting the question to the listening post feature we appreciate it I can you just say your name and and who you are just
yeah I'm Jim pandered and former president ceo the Pennsylvania Manufacturers Association and how long were you in that role
well as with PMA have been around for about 11 years, I was a journalist before that magazine editor and the corporate communications executive
and what was your I guess, how would you describe the Manufacturers Association? And what you're
a conservative trade association for manufacturers throughout the state.
All right. And I guess if you tell me about that, and when did you leave that position, and 2000, 2005
I had a quixotic run for the gubernatorial nomination for the Republican Party, which felt drastically short.
And where do you live now
just outside of Hershey.
so I guess if you submitted questions and listening post, I guess, if you can tell me what that quite, you know, for this.
The question is, if the government wants to raise
money, minimum wage of all State Teachers and government schools to $45,000, what's going to happen to the teachers
in those school districts and other school districts who are making something approaching $45,000 or maybe $45,000 after several years of experience, you know, this is a typical union ploy, because once you raise the minimum, then you've got to raise a lot of other salaries along with it. So if I'm a teacher say, I've been teaching for six years and one of these districts and making $45,000 a year now when the minimum becomes $45,000, what do I get based on my experience so and it has a ripple effect if you will, to jack everyone else's salaries up and you know, the unions are not going to allow
the minimums to be raised and only a few of the districts they're going to want the balance throughout the school through our throughout the states 500 districts it's you know, it's just political economics
and I guess when you talk about that union deployment Do you think this is a similar to what is done with that do you think it's similar to that regular minimum wage or do you think this is
Oh yeah, so I mean it's a very similar thing and of course the regular minimum wage in the private sector people get laid off in government jobs is very seldom people get laid off a real rarity in fact or even get fired I don't know how many teachers throughout the state have been fired for in competence. I mean, there are 10s of thousands of them and I would bet there's probably not three or four over the last decade has been fired now a number of them have been fired for child molestation or sexual violence rage teenagers but it's really hard to kind of deny that
and and when when I guess I'm How are you still active in politics at all or
well I thought I should go straight but I you know, I still am involved in the sense that I know what's going on and you know, have political friends but it's not consuming my time I'm just a taxpayer now like everyone else. Yeah, you retired now?
Sort of semi retire Yes. Okay.
And yeah. So what was your first reaction when you heard about this proposal in particular
says just another example of government economics and
fleecing the people of Pennsylvania i mean i mean there's no even there's not been any type of merit
based raises considered because the unions will allow them and if you look at the track record of pencil manias government education system over the last 40 to 50 years the increase in spending is than like a rocket to the moon while the any kind of evaluation sa t test at test or whatever is basically flatlined So you mean there's nothing the education system is not improving
probably getting worse wasn't very good to begin with and you know it's just a whole throw money down
um. I would just um. You know I was looking at some of the old old stories in talked about your the quiz quixotic attempt for governor what happened when you weren't on the ballot in the end right or were you well yeah
yeah I dropped I dropped out in February of last one to drop out I mean the republicans wanted a former pro football wide receiver to be their candidate and the course Hedren del kicked his butt so
all right. I'm all right. Well, yeah, we should we, I think what we were doing a story about this and sort of do some of this as part of that story. I anything, anything else I should know? And as you want to add,
oh, why? You know, it's just it's the same old thing,
and people really have no control over it. I mean, the governor even said during his first term, he's very sorry if people have to lose their homes because they can't afford the school taxes in their districts. But that's the price of progress. So I think it's a pretty cavalier attitude on my part, but I can still make my taxes.
All right. Well, I really appreciate your taking the time and appreciate your submitting the question.
Well, thank you very much for calling. I appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you. Bye.