ThinkComputers Podcast #206
3:02PM Jan 16, 2020
What is up guys welcome to the think computers a weekly tech podcast This is Episode 206 This episode is brought to you by Amazon if you go to think computers that org forward slash Amazon and happen to purchase something that gives us little kickback and keeps the podcast on going with me is my co host Ryan what's up Ryan?
much just a still recovering from CES Likert I think
Yeah, right for the show is Ryan needs more
than I do.
Yeah, feeling a pretty pretty bad I'm actually still feeling it like this and just kind of like sluggish things here like a little sluggish after barely any sleep and
yeah, like my brains were super hard to get up and I was like dead tired at work all day. So horrible today. I felt a little better. But tonight I'm like, running down again. Yeah, it's Been
I think everybody gets the CES hangover right? So you know you one thing I'm actually really happy about is that I did not get sick. I know you're sick of it. I was sick ahead of it. So the day we got to CES I like was just getting over being sick, which is pretty nice. You don't mean like, I would rather get sick before CES or after, but I didn't get sick during which would have been more some of our friends got sick and that's just never a good thing. So yeah, so I didn't get sick after either. I was actually surprised. I was like waiting. I was like, you know, day after I'm going to get a cold you know, we saw her for a lot of people after got sick, but I didn't get sick at all, but I still am pretty tired. It's been Yeah, it's just Yeah, like I said, you're you're one you're jetlag, too. You just haven't slept for days. I feel so you haven't slept
for days and no ethics. We're old. We're just Old. I get it. I get it. Yeah, it's fine. I'll take it.
Yeah, Kayla, thanks for old. We'll put her though. You know, but we're not old. We just did a lot of work and everything like that so but we are going to be doing our CS wrap up. So this is gonna be our wrap up show we're pretty much going to talk about everything that happened at CES that we covered for the most part, just you know, talk about the show some cool things that we saw, we're not going to cover everything that we've written on the website. You guys can find that at think computers.org forward slash ces 2020. That is our dedicated CES page. So you guys can go ahead on there and check all of that out. But to start off, we actually launched a review this week was which was a CES launch product, john and that was Coursera is k 95. RGB, platinum x t, the K 95 RGB Platinum that came out in 2017, I think, which was like the kind of like, if you're going for a full size keyboard, that was like the standard, right? It had everything, great construction, just a great overall keyboard. And when I found out that of course there was, you know, coming out with a new version of the Platinum x t. It I was actually really excited. But this upgrade, it's sort of like a minimal upgrade, you're not getting a change to the overall design, which in my opinion, I don't think needs changed it.
Now it's a pretty little keyboard. Yeah, I think that designs pretty great.
And I like I don't you know, don't fix something that's not broken. So you still have the full full layout for number pad. You have a set of six g keys on the side that can be programmed and things like that. The big upgrade, which I think is a very important one is that you're now getting PBT double shot keycaps.
So it looks a little extra quality to the product there I think.
Yeah, and MPPT troubleshot keycaps. We have seen them on a few, you know, major company keyboards, but they're mostly I would say they're mostly on sort of enthusiast grade keyboards. A lot of people are buying, you know, their own double shot keycaps to put on their current keyboard and things like that. So, you know, if you're not familiar with double shot keycaps they're made a lot better, they feel so much better. And the thing that happens and it's happened on so many of my keyboards is your after a while your keys will kind of get a shine to them and the guides will actually rub off over time. If you're using a keyboard a lot it will happen. PvP double shot keycaps they won't have that and they feel a lot better. So normal key caps are made out of ABS plastic. This is a double shot process. It's it's just so much better. That's kind of like night and day if you use double shot keycaps compared to normal keycaps you know, it's night and day. So that's just one great upgrade to this keyboard. The second has to do with the G keys. So again, you have these six g keys here. And the big thing with the upgrade here, I wish I had them I actually did have them. I just here there
because they're blue, right?
Yeah, let me grab them real quick. So with the keyboard, you're going to get a set of these keys which say s on them, and they're blue. And the reason for that is because Coursera did acquire Elgato maybe a year or two years ago, and this is one of the first products that's sort of sort of Going to incorporate their software. So within stream deck, if you have a stream tech, you can actually enable the G keys to be stream deck functions, which adds more functionality. If you're a streamer, which is kind of nice, it's actually good to see course they're kind of integrating Elgato stuff into their own products. This is I would assume this just makes it easier for the streamer. Instead of you know, reaching over my key, I can just write down on my keyboard, I can reach over and press something and it just gives me more functionality, right? Because what is a stream deck mini only has what six buttons on it?
The mini I think a six regular one is 15.
Yeah, so if you have any, you know, this adds basically basically double your amount of keys or amount of buttons that you have. So that's another nice upgrade as well. They've also upgraded the, the wrist wrist so or the palm rest. So before it was sort of double sided with rubber, now they've kind of add this nice cushion with this kind of fake leather, it feels a lot better. I think it's just, you know, it's just another upgrade. But besides that the keyboards essentially the same Cherry MX key switches.
Before you go pass that, I just want to touch on those the G keys and you know, the interaction with the stream deck. So it just got me thinking and I don't know why I didn't think of this sooner. Right? Like, I'm really happy that they've added that and the you have the interaction with the stream deck. Do you think that we will see those g keys go from a mechanical switch to a stream deck type screen? I'd over above like the F keys.
I would think eventually you'll see something like that incorporated into a course or product or into a course or a keyboard. Or they might make a keyboard specifically for streamers. Right? Wouldn't that be great to have I think it'll be awesome. Yeah, I mean, added on around the top. Obviously with this design. There's a lot of room. So I think that we could see a product like that in the future. Maybe this is a test to see, okay, how many people are using that functionality right so I'm sure they can track that in the software I assume maybe
Big Brother ish because if they can track that they can check your keystrokes So
yeah, I guess. But you know, like it's it's kind of like you know, this might be the first test but it'd be really cool to see a you know, this keyboard with a stream tech basically build it I mean, it technically is basically built in but with the what are those old? What are those? TV? You know, I don't know. Yeah, but with the with the ones that you can configure and change them and everything like that, that would be super cool. Ya know, like, like I said, that would be really cool. And there actually was a keyboard years ago that we reviewed. You guys did review it. Yeah, a long time ago is that the optimists are me. Yeah. Yeah. The optimist was just basically like a stream deck, but it was a keyboard. It was very, very cool. But besides that the keyboards essentially the same you know works with IQ. Everybody knows about IQ I don't need to tell you guys all that much about it they have they have updated like their connectors This is much like what's on you, you saw with your headset just kind of like a nicer finish on the USB connectors and things like that. The price is the same as the previous k 95 RGB Platinum so it stays the same price which is a 199 99. So, you I again, if you have a platinum x t right now, I don't see a reason to upgrade. There is no reason to upgrade. Unless, again, I just even with the extra keys maybe if you're a streamer and you have a stream deck and you really need extra keys normally mean but if you have a K 95 Platinum ax t You want the PPT key caps, you can get a key cap set for like 25 bucks, which would work fine, you know, I mean, so you really don't need to upgrade to this keyboard. But if you're, you know, somebody buying a new keyboard, this is a great choice. It's kind of like, again, the standard when it comes to a full size keyboard, it does have the RGB lighting and I really didn't talk about that because I feel like RGB lighting is kind of a given perky, you can do much you can do a lot. There is a top part up here as well. That will, it's just like it I think there's I think there's 17 or 18 different lighting zones actually in the light bar so you can fully configure that if you want. I gave it a nine out of 10 the only reason I gave it a nine is because again, no reason to upgrade if you have the Platinum XP already, really no reason upgrade. I like the upgrades that they put into it. It's again, it's really kind of hard to add more to a already great product, it does everything it's supposed to do. You know it's it's really hard to like get an add on to such a great product, but I like their upgrades if you're buying a new keyboard full size is definitely one that I would recommend for sure. And then before we get into our CS stuff, one thing I didn't I didn't mention is that we do have our show notes. It is listed in the the description of our video, but you can follow us along if you guys are on the live stream and you want to follow along that has everything that we're about to talk about. But one thing I did want to talk about is our contest it's still going on and it will allow you to win a thermaltake tough power pf one argv 850 watt power supply it's a long name and a pack of the ring trio 12 RGB fans, so three pack there will 120 millimeter fans seven days left so just a week left on this contest a bunch of different ways to enter super easy to enter as well we do all of our giveaways through gleam. So you know you can easily answer do a bunch of different stuff and things like that. You know, pretty excited to give this stuff away and we'll in seven days, we should have another contest coming. So definitely stay tuned for that. But let's jump in. Let's jump into CES. It's it's the biggest show for us. I think it's great. I, the thing I love about CES is seeing everybody. Yeah. So we have all these friends who live all over the world who kind of do what we do talk about tech and things like that. And I think it's just great to see everybody. I think it's one of my favorite things just like you know, seeing seeing your friends and and all of that. I don't know was there anything that we were we were really excited for.
Going into the I thought I think my predictions were hopefully something from something pretty cool from Elgato and Coursera. Which, you know, we saw some cool stuff there. It wasn't what I thought we were gonna see. I thought we might see a webcam from Elgato.
Yeah. What that I remember.
I think that was really all that I was kind of anticipating we were maybe anticipating some AMD news. I think what we did, we
did get some AMD news. But the sad part about it was with which we'll talk about with the 650 600 x team was that AMD did not allow their board partners to show the cars that was like I was really excited about that because it's just like last year we had the 2016 and all the board partners had their 2016 there. They came out a few weeks later but you could see them so you can say okay, here's the lineup from from MSI, here's the lineup from you know, a Soos here's the lineup from gigabyte like with this launch They announced that but we didn't see any board partner cards and I'm pretty sure which we saw them in a press image from AMD. Yeah. So we couldn't see him in person. Yeah, so that was a little weird. Also, you know a we are getting pretty close to 10th generation desktop processors and Z for 90 motherboards I thought we would see a couple just like the what it usually happens at these events is they have a motherboard there is no name on it or it says future generation. And it has like the the chipset kind of like covered over or whatever. That was not to be found either.
No, nobody had, you know, we looked pretty hard and nobody was.
Yeah, I was. Like, I asked like behind closed doors and everything. If anybody had them. They were like, No, we don't have them. Which was kind of disappointing for me because I'm a motherboard guy. And there's like no major loss. What was the big thing this year?
I mean sure the 5600 x t but it's not a like huge thing you had the the Intel nook stuff yeah to me was major to me just because I liked that small form factor tiny system stuff but in the grand scheme of things there I don't know that there really was a major announcement
the show in general like the show in general encompassing all tech all everything else, ma'am. Yes. There was nothing that was like the thing
the Sony electric car right that was kind of a surprise announcement.
Yeah, that was surprising.
Nothing crazy and TVs I don't think we saw some roll up TVs but it's not like they showed a 16 K TV or anything like that.
Yeah, I did see the roll up TVs and LG booth that was really cool. All the TVs I still think the super thin OLED TVs are just like absolutely amazing. Oh, we did see that that thing. It like try it was like a camera that sort of try to guess your age. Remember we did that?
Oh, yeah. Something like that last year, though. I know you because you didn't go to the show floor last year. Yeah. Right. So we saw that last year and it very similar stuff.
Yeah. We saw the robot that played ping pong. I was there last
Okay. Yeah. But like there wasn't a big thing. So you know, like, every year, there's like a big thing. There was not a big thing. And then one really interesting thing is that Intel did not have a booth. They usually have biggest booths. It's always very interesting. It's huge. No booth this year at CES. wardrobe.
Chat. Mike in the chat says robot ping pong. Yes. So they at the Omron booth, which they make all sorts of electronics and servos and all sorts of things, but they had one configured to essentially play ping pong against a human so it would see how you were moving obviously and react to that but also, this year's model and version of it would kind of react to your mood and it could be kind of tell if you're frustrated or not, and it would react it. Yeah, we were just playstyle to that. That's neat. I mean, it's I like,
I like this bit of fact, I liked it for the fact that it could tell if you were angry. You only mean it was it was like measuring all of those things. I don't know how I guess cameras, obviously. I forget how many cameras I think I talked to the rep and he was telling me there's like a bunch of different cameras in it. They said it's for training. I don't know who's I guess these ping pong champions that are using that? I don't know. It didn't seem like the robot was all that great. Like if you hit the ball a little higher than normal.
Well, and I think it was just a limitation of the robot, right? Like, yeah, it just couldn't do
I also did like the underwater drones. Those are really cool.
Yeah, like the fish ones or even just like the, you know, submersible looking things. So yeah. And old man says the LG OLED TV supporting g sync. Yep. So we saw that TV in videos booth they were showing that will Was it a Project CARS too? He I think, in big screen? Yes. That was pretty cool. Yeah, that was really what title? I think we'll talk about that.
Yes, we will. We'll talk about the 360 hertz moderator. So let's just jump into kind of what we covered. We'll talk about AMT first, just for the fact that
I guess that that was the the big thing, like the big announcement on the hardware side was that AMD did officially reveal the thread Ripper 3990 X, they had already announced that they just said later. So this is a 64 core 129 thread. Thread Ripper 3990 X. Just to you know, to give you an idea of like they're offering I mean, that's
great. Yeah, even the bottom on 16 corners. Just impressive. Yeah, right. Um,
so it has a base clock of 2.9 gigahertz, and it's going to boost up to 4.3 gigahertz 288 megabytes of total cash. Just under $4,000. Available February 7 2020. East crazy. High End desktop 64 core. That is awesome. Well,
that's the crazy part right there that that next slide that 30% faster and the cost difference right between the tools aeons. Yeah.
Oh, yeah. Yeah, so I mean, $4,000 a, you might think all that's crazy for a processor. But if you look at the processing power, and when encoding times and time is money and things like that, especially when it comes to the studios or, you know, the things like that, it just makes sense. I mean, $4,000 for the processor, maybe another five 600 For the motherboard, you already mean. Yeah, it's just
it's just crazy.
So so that was their first big announcement again, it wasn't super, like we already knew about it. They said it would, you know, they already they already announced it. technically this is just like when it's going to be available and everything like that. Yeah. Mike says it would make a killer unbraid box. Yeah. For sure. And the next big announcement was the radio on our x 5600 x t. and 5600. Again, partner based but we didn't see any of these cards at the show because Andy did not
let go so weird. I don't get it. But yeah, like but you know, just in a graphic so they're saying the ultimate nntp Gaming. So this isn't your 1440 card, but it's it's, you know, it's going to be great for 10 at Hi settings.
Yeah, yeah. So 36 compute units 1300 and 75 megahertz game clock up to 1500 and 60 megahertz boost clock, six gigabytes of gdd are six it is the slower gdrs
Yeah, so this is lower ggR six, but
obviously, you know, a good competitor, it's good to see a full lineup. Again, we're not seeing products like on the video side at every like $30 this will be to 7999 at the base cost. A lot of these other cards like this is a Strix card from ACS will obviously be more expensive and some of the other ones like the Sapphire pulse, it should be more along those lines as far as price and things like that. You should see like two or three cards from each company, they're really behind this one to seven Nine for for 10 ATP, pretty high frame rates especially when it comes to eSports and things like that as I think it's a really good price. You know paying around 300 bucks for graphics card used to be the normal.
So it should be it should be a good card for them.
So we we will be getting one in this week. So definitely stay tuned for that review and I haven't hit the 500 in that I need to review so I'm back from CES and I'm catching up on things. So we will have both of those coming up and they're both in the same company. So be good comparison. So we will have those coming for you guys here pretty soon. And I'm talking about the the 5600 x team. It kind of shoots a shot at the 2016. Right? The if you're looking to, you know, at a 2060 or a a 5600 x t you're not really sure where to get you Especially considering the 2016 is much higher in price, but Ed G and a few other partners that we know of as the one we thought the show was Ebg as they're going to launch a RT x 2016 k Oh yeah, it's out it's available now. We got to see it at the show. It is 300 bucks for a 2016
and I'm pretty sure they've actually already matched the price of the 5600 x t. So they're like price parity, even though I'm okay almost certain.
So yeah, so 300 bucks 2060 you will get if you're a single player gamer and you wanted to kind of see what our TX is about. This is our deck. This is a card that can do it for 300 bucks or like you said, what would that be to? 79 Yeah, to 79. See, that's cool. Aiden. I like a VGA when it comes to their graphics cards. It is a metal backplate it's not plastic. So you get a nice little a 2060 here for, like I said, $279 looks good. And we got to see it at their booth. So,
yeah, I think the metal backplate is a pretty nice feature on that entry level.
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's like I said, it's, it's a good looking card overall. And like I said, it's just good to see that, you know, partners are realizing like, hey, if we want to sell this stuff, we have to kind of compete with in price, you know what I mean? So maybe drop some of the higher end features that are on some of the higher end cards and put out a card that kind of has like kind of the basic features but just still gives you the same around the same perform. Yeah,
cuz I mean, you're not gonna find RGB on this. It does have like a DPI, a port a DB ID on it. So yeah, it's going to be compatible with maybe some older monitors for those folks that aren't on display Porter HDMI? Yeah.
Yeah. So that is a that's pretty good. I would say if you're on the Nvidia side and you're looking to kind of upgrade or you've been looking for you know, just better priced RT x cards, there you go. And the next thing has to do with gaming and you got you got some time in on Samsung's new Odyssey g nine, which is there 49 inch. Wait,
are you doing that one first,
but I skipped one. Oh, okay. We'll skip I'm already skipping things trying to get this podcast
yeah, I just you know, like I said, I still have this CS Hang on. Um, so yeah, so first before we get to the Samsung gaming monitor the hype before the show was a Soos. And Nvidia had a 360 hertz g sync gaming monitor. And you think 360 hertz like what's the point? And I think a lot of people I even I thought like, what's the point to 40 is awesome for gaming, but we were I think you should explain it because you you did it like we both went through them. You did it more than I did. So if you want to kind of explain what, what Nvidia did like ship to show what the difference is between 240 and 360. And how they showed us, I guess,
yeah, so they kind of had three setups going there. The first one was to show the improvements that could be had in your reaction time. So they had two identical system setup. The only difference was that the one on the left was running at 60 hertz, the one on the right was at 360. So in the first image of the showing there, this is the reaction time demo. So there was a portion a test in like cs go where a terrorist or whoever it was jumps across through a gap and you had to try to shoot them out of the air with very little reaction time. Right. On the 60 hertz panel. I think I got zero
Bob's gonna say I got zero cuz he got to just, you know, like it was very hard. Then you move over to the 360 hertz monitor, and I ended up with eight out of 10.
I think Yeah, you did really good on that one,
eight out of 10. And I think you had seven out of 10. And you probably would have had eight, except you kind of jumped the gun on one.
And it just made it It almost felt like you had more time to see the guy moving across and you kind of do your brain can interpret the extra images that you're getting from that monitor and can react a little bit faster and able to snipe that guy out of the air.
Yeah. And I was just like, wow, like I you could really like I used to play Counter Strike competitively. And that's what this demo was and to feel like you had you know, like an extra split second. Especially, you're using the opp. So if you guys are familiar with that, you know you have that extra split second to get that shot. It just means a kill, you know. So that was really impressive to me. And like I said, just our reactions, get, you know, Ryan scoring zero and then getting eight hits. And I had two and then I got seven big, you know, those are big difference.
Yeah. So then we'll move on to
the next next test was like target acquisition and aiming. So again, we were kind of in Counter Strike, this time, you were in kind of a stationary position, and they would have a random enemy pop up around you. The goal was to using a pistol, and you had as many shots as you wanted. So I mean, you could just, you know, fire over and over. That's not my style, but you had to see if you could get a headshot, and as soon as you got a headshot on them, they would disappear. And you would have to kind of turn around and find the next target around you. So they would be moving so it was really kind of, you know, on the 60 hertz monitor, compared to the 360. Again, it was there was quite a bit of a difference for This one wasn't as much. I think on the first test, I got 14. And then on the 360 hertz monitor, I got 16 or 17. In a 45 second time period. That one I didn't feel like I noticed it as much. It was, yeah, I didn't either. But I didn't feel like I did better or that it was easier. It felt smoother. But it I didn't feel like the test was easier if that makes sense. But you can notice a difference for sure.
Then the comprehension, which is kind of hard to see in this.
Yeah, it's a it's even hard to see when you watch a video of it, just because the cameras can't really pick up exactly what's happening unless you have a frame rate going. So the left monitor, by default was set at 240 hertz. The right one again was at 360. And they had a Dota little demo screen scrolling across from right to left. So you have multiple characters there with their health bars, you've got some buildings, and each of the characters obviously has a name on them. So On the left monitor going at 240 hertz and scrolling, you could kind of maybe make out one of the names as it was moving across the screen if you watched it the whole time, but you couldn't pick up a lot of information from the screen, whereas on the right one, you could read each one of the names pretty easily and pick up a lot more information. So just the extra again, info that your brain can process, even though the images are moving at the same speed, you just getting a little bit more information and visuals for yourself to process. So especially, you know, on the left one, they would move it down to 60 hertz, hundred and 20 hundred 44 to 40. You know, and you can really tell the difference on those lower ones but it's it's just again proves that a higher frame rate does make a difference. And there is a noticeable difference there. You know, a lot of a lot of people used to say even above 60 hertz, you're not gonna be able to tell. Well, we obviously know that that's not right, because I could tell the difference between 60 and 75 when I had a 75 hertz monitor and then 144 on my Now, I think it's pretty good, but there's definitely a difference between the two and to say there isn't, is was proven,
I think that people don't realize until you see these tests walking in there, I'm like this is you know, but it's just you know, hitting my I hit two shots and then hitting seven. And you could feel that you had so much more time it's, it's just crazy. And then the comprehension one again, like everything is blurry to me in this one. And then in the 360, the one that's running 360 FPS, you could read the names and the way they explained it to it's like, I don't play Dota but you know, if one of these guys that you're seeing is one of the heroes and he's about to do an attack, you can try you can launch your spells or do whatever you need to do a lot easier. So it does make a I guess it makes an argument for for the high frame rate monitor like over 240 hertz for sure. I would say only for the esports player. casual
gamer was like a first person like, you know, casual, you're not playing competitively, I wouldn't recommend it, you might be able to still see a difference. But I the advantage you're going to get is
probably Yeah, and the thing is, too is like the cost, I mean, this monitor is going to be quite expensive. And you really don't need that as a casual game or anything like that. And you have to realize that Dota two in Counter Strike source, those are going to be the, like, some of the few titles that you can push, you know, 360 frames per second on say, like a 2080 ti, right. So those are things you know, want to say what's up to Joseph in the chats. And then old man as well he's pretty much in all he's been an all around a
lot lately. Yeah like Mike and Joseph they both came over from the home gadget geeks crew will be will be guesting over there in February. But they did a lot to kind of advertise us and everything so they made it over tonight so
nice nice. And they're the one that caught us on stream yard because I had no kissing rod was before that. So yeah, so
thanks to them we're
yeah thanks for streaming we get the you get the look at my pretty face and yeah, Ryan. Yeah. But yeah, so talking about gaming and monitors. Not a crazy super fast monitor but I think eight and monitor that's my dream monitor I would say for what I do is the new Samsung, Samsung Odyssey g nine they launched their new Odyssey gaming monitors at CES. There's the G nine and G seven g Nine is 49 inches, that g seven is 32 and 27 inch versions. And the big thing with these is that they are they have 100 our curve, which is super curved, and we did a video on it, I'm just going to kind of let it play or go through a little bit and you can kind of see Ryan, you know, playing Overwatch on it. And I like it. You made a very valid point though. The curve is so dramatic that when you're when you're gaming, especially like an FPS you have to move your head Right,
right. Yeah, I mean, and I don't know that it's so much the curvature. It's just that wide of a screen. When I'm playing an FPS. I'm usually pretty focused on the center of my heart. Yeah, I'm sure I'm seeing stuff in the peripheral but I'm really focused on the centerpiece. So a lot of that screen to me is wasted in a game like they were dead. Overwatch now an RTS or you know just a single player third person view type yeah I
want to play I would want to play Star Wars Jedi fallen order on it that would be amazing. Also I pointed out in my video too is that you could have because it is 25 or 2560 or some crazy frame rate by 1440 right so you technically could play a game at 1440 p in the center. You could have you know twitch if you're streaming you have twitch on one side you have discord on the other and you have like the perfect all in one screen. I think that's that would be my ideal obviously since I do a lot of video editing, having that massive timeline across 49 inches for video would be amazing. I love the I love curved curved screens I have one in front of me. It's not $100 curve, I think it's 1500 maybe But I like curved screens. I like ultra super ultra wides. That monitor to me was awesome. It looked amazing as well. The it's white, the
background looks very cool.
The back of it has this kind of like RGB elements and if I can fast forward the video
I look like Tony Stark's Yeah, or call what are the course called
arc reactor? Yeah, so you can kind of see that in there. Like I said it, it is a really amazing monitor. It's 240 hertz as well. Which is really impressive.
I was another problem I had is they were running the demo. They had it set at 60 hertz, like, Yeah, I don't know what system they were running on it or if they just had it misconfigured but it was I went into the settings and turned FPS on and it was locked at 60 and I didn't want to mess with it. So
yeah, but also at their booth was the 980 Pro which didn't seem to be covered at all, and see ya,
I didn't really give much info right, it was stuck in a glass box because let's see if like we assume you know, it's a fourth Gen NVMe part. And I'm sure it's going to be pretty fast. Yeah.
So there is the 980 Pro. It is going to be Samsung's first gen four SSD. 6500 megabytes a second read 5000 right. The one thing I talked about in my video, which is interesting, and again, we don't know but there's no heatsink on this. I'm
not even on the sticker that little foil ones,
no, so it's not even on the sticker. Again, this might not be the final version because it's just you know, we're just showing it off at CES.
But every Gen four drive the two or two or three that I've reviewed, are very hot and require very large heatsinks now Those are using third party controllers Samsung at least on all their previous products develops everything in house so but still that much speed and again remember when they first put out their their NVMe drives they did have heat issues and throttling issues yeah oh man said how many of those monitors you need to circle yourself? Probably three maybe three I don't know.
Yeah, I don't know.
Somewhere thousand our curve is very dramatic which I like at least for me for like my workflow. I think that would be great. But that back to the back to this Yeah, they said probably later this year. They couldn't tell us any much you know, nothing more about it. And then finally, get to it is we had the T seven touch from Samsung as well. I love these drives. I haven't see five. This is just an upgrade. So it's upgraded to USB 3.2 Gen two Then it has a touch a fingerprint reader. So most of these drives have a password. This you can just touch with your finger and easily unlock it makes it so much easier. It's still you can still do password protection, and it has 256 bit as hardware protection. These are great for our mobile workflow. I think that
it's like it. Yeah.
If you're, if you're doing 4k content, and you're editing it on the road, this is a awesome little drive to have. This will be available 512 and one terabyte version, so very cool to see that. So yeah. Yeah, well move on to what is next on our list course air, so we got to visit course air. And I was actually surprised because I had heard nothing about this and I think they kept under wraps was they had this new case. And this case has RGB bedded in the glass. Sort of, sort of. Yeah, sort of. So this is a concept. This isn't the final version. And basically, it is going to it uses their capex LED technology. So that is what we saw on their Dominator Platinum RGB memory. Basically, the actual LEDs are much smaller than your normal RGB LED. And I was impressed. I don't know about you. I thought it was very, very cool. The big reason let's fast forward in our video here is because if you look at it, it looks like
the LEDs are just floating.
Yeah, it was it was crazy. I mean, the capex LEDs are already pretty small. But the leads they were able to, you know, shrink and make the leads between themselves. Small that I mean, I was my face was up against the glass practically and you can like barely see a line you step back six inches you can't see. Yeah.
It's amazing. It was very, very cool. And the other cool thing is that there's no wires. It's all a can. It's all a hard connection on the bezel of the the front bezel of the case. So you wouldn't have to worry about connecting RGB wires or anything like that. And of course, you can control it all through IQ. It's like I said, it's just awesome. I mean, having that much RGB in your system, I think is is great.
Because Yeah, they had just had 150 RGV I think it was like 10 by 10 on the side panel and 10 by five on the front. And you can kind of see it right there in that image. You got IQ up there so you can individually change. Yeah, in
all of your GPS are individually addressable which I Think is just crazy. Now the thing that I'm really excited about is that they showed this on a on a 465 X, which I wouldn't say is the best case out there. Right? If they put this on a higher end case, I think that'd be awesome. Again, this is just showing the technology, right? You know, putting this on a higher end case, or if you're not a fan of the side panel, like putting it on a front panel, only on the front panel of a case, right, or something like that. You know, there's a lot of different things that you could do with this. But just to see that, again, we weren't expecting this. This was kind of like, Wow, this is awesome.
Yeah, everything's to see the show.
Yeah, definitely one of my favorite things. Also, of course, there, they have their new integration with a su or a sink. So now everything that is or is incompatible will work in IQ. And they'll, you know, they'll talk to each other. So if you have an ACS motherboard Any like said any ACS product in the of course, their products, you can control them all with an IQ. So you have all the same effects. So it's just annoying when you have a motherboard and you get some RGB fans and then they're out of sync or they don't. It just
it's just so much easier to do it our IQ check that out on my board. Yeah. enable this.
Yeah. And then finally they had the aim was at the a 500.
Yeah, they're cooler.
Yeah. Hey, 500 air cooler right here. This is a big boy air cooler. It's their first air cooler in eight years. Which is pretty cool. You know, I think that they've really thought of everything with this cooler. It's huge. It's easily installable. I got to the point where we can tell that they spent their time like designing this and briea market because they've they've done so much to Make this a high quality part. Yeah, it looks very high tech too. I think people kind of overlook that when it comes to air coolers, but you can see the top that kind of pulls off there. And you'll be able to easily install you just get a screwdriver that kind of goes down in there. So installation should be easy. And the fans themselves actually pull off, which I think is really cool as well. The biggest thing that fan clips are just annoying. And you cut your hand on the hip thing. I've done it so many times the other fan just pulls off they're
like those little like thin clips. They're like a paper clip that's been stretched out in bed. Just the right yeah. They're so frustrating. And if you don't if you're not familiar with me, like how the hell is this hold a fan on because yeah, confusing. This was awesome. Nothing waste of time. It had the huge heat pipes that make direct contact with the CPU. So you don't have to, you know, go through an aluminum or copper piece. You're right on those heat pipes so you get better heat transfer. Yes, it was Yeah,
it was like I said, it's out Now I forget the pricing. I actually just
got like 89 or 99. I think Yeah,
I just got one in today literally play it just came. So I'll be reviewing that as well. So definitely stay tuned for that hopefully they come out with a case is here that uses LEDs because I definitely want to do that as well. So definitely some cool stuff from course there. We'll move over to coolermaster. And you think of coolermaster for their cases and their coolers but I was actually most excited for their new mouse. So they will have a brand new lightweight mouse this year. It's shooting for 45 grams, and it's actually based on the spawn so if you guys remember the spawn mouse from years ago, this you can see it by the design. I mean, it looks like it goes exactly like the spawn mouse, they've changed the orientation of where the sensor is. Obviously the sensor has been upgraded and everything like that. But just I do remember I had a spawn mouse. I loved it I just it's really made for like a claw style grip. So I absolutely loved my spawn and I think that bringing that back in the low like I said lightweight 45 grams is very, very light. You can see just like I said, with all the holes and everything like that on it's just a Like I said, I love the whole lightweight thing you guys might be haters
I converted I I've drank the Kool Aid. I feel like I've drank the
It Like I said it just I have like, I can get this in there. This is there. Mmm 711 Review coming soon. That I'm using right now. And the cabling is probably my favorite thing on it just because it's just feels amazing. But the light, lightweight game ice if you play games, and it's just like I said, it's just awesome. So they have that and then they're low profile keyboards, which will give To here if I find them in the video right here, so this is going to be their new sk 620 to 60% keyboard we reviewed all of their SK keyboards last year. 60% 10 keyless full size, very low profile. They're beautiful keyboards, but last year, they had these key caps that were completely flat. And while those looked great, and usage, they felt good. They took a while to get used to but it was just a little I don't know they just didn't feel as good. So they they've made the keycaps more concave and then they use new What are they called TCL switches or TTC, TTC? I think Yeah, new TTC switches in there on these keyboards. This 60% one is one that I'm definitely really interested in. Hopefully we get that interview because I love a small keyboard even though I have the Coursera one sitting in front of me which is awesome. Like smaller things on my desk. So they'll have that as well. And then they had the full size, which is the SK 652.
transcript from the video, there it is.
And they'll have different versions with white key cast black key caps, things like that. They will both be wired and wireless. They weren't really specific on if each keyboard will be wireless, like if they're being wireless. Yes or Yeah, it will be two different versions of wired and a wireless or if the keyboard has wireless functionality, as well as wired and you don't know that yet. But that that was really really cool as well. And then also with coolermaster. We had they have gaming chairs now, which which is something you got to check out. They have I feel they have like the typical OEM style right?
Mars everybody pretty much has right that racing chair Yeah,
though, like, yeah, they have those they have this little mad at the bot that I thought was kind of cool, you know, for your office or whatever they had this mat as well. But they have an ergonomic chair, which I was most excited about because I'm sitting in an ergonomic chair right now from autonomous and ergonomic chairs. I think if you spend a lot of time at your computer, they're kind of the way to go. Right? They you can adjust literally everything on them. You can it's just way better for your body I feel than the gaming chairs. I think the gaming chairs are an upgrade to like the crappy $50 chair from office.
What is next? Well, I've been sitting in and have had for probably 12 years What happened
to that you've got a gaming chair.
It was too tall.
I'll get you another one. But well to get you there, sir. Go on. Go on man. Now Yeah, so this is not gonna be cheap. I think they said what 599 or 70
Enough It was 499 or 599 on the Ergo
but we were really kind of impressed by this because it's a full line of gaming chairs I think there's like four or five in total coolermaster so they're like diving in pretty hardcore, you know, with these chairs it's not
in each one of them kind of adds a little to it right so you don't want to spend a lot or you know, you only want these certain features you can kind of start out with the r one or the two and kind of move your way up you know that you know, the things that differentiate them are the you know, one might not come with the neck pillow but it comes with the back pillow or the the arm rests only move side to side and they don't rotate. Right so you've got some some options there. As far as budget and and features go, so I think that's nice. They're not just coming out with a single chair. That's
Yeah, I think. I think many companies came out with like one chair, right that was in that in that it was their chair and then they were Literally every company had the same chair for the most part. Um, so yeah, it's good to see a full series good to see the early Ergo I'm really excited for this one old man said that he would recommend an ergonomic chair over a gaming chair any day. I agree with you 100%. Because like I said, I'm sitting in one and I absolutely love it. And I spend hours upon hours in front of my computer. So So yeah, let's talk about what else we have here from CES. We have, oh, this thing. Probably the most besides I don't know, this in the in the in the core staircase are probably the most talked about cases at CES. The most surprising,
right? The most innovative I think, or
this is this is definitely innovative in difference in when showed their new day chassis, and it's part of their signature series. So if you're familiar with Edwin, I know you know you there's Signature Series All of the super limited edition cases which have slowly gone from cases I feel to art pieces, things that nobody really can afford that at once limited edition cases room
for this is just this massive uh, I wouldn't say an abomination because I thought it was it is this crazy kind of chandelier type case that has its own stand and has all these like interesting little little scales scales and things like that. It's on this crazy stand as you can see here. And it's a two two system case you can fit actually two systems in there comes a dual power supplies that help power your system, as well as all of the other functions that are on this. So it has a virtual assistant called Jarvis. And it uses you can use like hand motion, gestures, you can use voice can Man's
Was there another one that you could use this new it? They He also mentioned like Alexa Amazon and Google's ability as well. Yeah.
There it has a projector on the bottom that you can see here at the bottom of the base is actually white and you could ask it to project a movie and it will start playing it and things like that. Very cool chassis. I think it's sort of like for like an art installation. It seems like it's an art installation, right? Yeah. If you are a millionaire or whatever, and you love computers and you love art and you have something like this. I like the it.
You're some sort of tech tech startup right. And you want that in your lobbies for everybody like yeah, look at when they come into your startup or something. I can see that.
Yeah, so, uh, it will be 14.5 or $14,500 Just the chassis no computer which is a yeah rather it's a lot of dollars. Yes a lot of dollars and then we had the new be one from England as well which is this little guy and this little guy is an IT x case. Really cool actually i think it's it's a great little case for like a Steam Box or like a streaming machine. You know what
I mean? I think it looks nice as a home theater PC right on Yeah. On top of a media center or something. Yeah, it's kind of that rectangular box. It doesn't look like another stereo or something. It's just a little fancier. But Art Deco II almost.
Yeah, it's really cool looking. The top pops off so you can install a mini IT system. And actually the height of it is good enough for the are tall enough for the Intel stock cooler. So you have all of We all have these like aftermarket CPU coolers for Intel the low profile ones are set at that height so you have a lot of options there comes with 200 watt power supply I believe it's gonna be $79 in what February they said or March
I forgot my notes. So for me,
yeah, no, no worries. And then they have ayios. So in when will be coming out with their own ayios as well. The big thing with these is they the height of the pump block you can see it's pretty big right there. Yeah, I think the reason for that and somebody told me this after the big reason for that is to get around the a scitech Pat.
Well, they're jewel pump. So yeah, it's got some functionality to it, but yeah, to get around a sex. Yeah.
But it's cool to see like we have another player in the market. I mean, it kind of makes sense because they are making chasse ease, you know, it just it just makes sense. So they will have the SSR to 24 which is 240. And then they'll have the ASR 36, which is a 360 millimeter. So very cool. They come with the RGB fans and the fans will have their own controller and everything like that, too. So very cool on England, and we'll move on to who's after in when thermaltake thermaltake had a lot. They had packs so much at the show, and I think they always do because they have so many different product lines. But we focused mostly on cases and their new tough ramps, so they had this monstrosity of a case called the I think it's I forget now it's called the ah 600 Tc GG t 600. tg which is this just massive thing. You guys can kind of see here. It's just this massive case. Again, it's it doesn't seem to me It doesn't seem very functional. It's a showcase. I think, right now, it's a case to look very cool, is it's gonna look great. If you're building a system, it's gonna look great. But as far as functionality I feel there's a lot of wasted space for that big of a case. Does that make sense?
Oh, definitely. Yeah, there's so many open spots, especially in that front lower section is just like this open area where you could probably do some stuff if you're a moderator, but for Yeah, person, they're probably not going to put anything in there. So it's just kind of this open area, which I guess is fine, but yeah.
See, the mods that come out of this,
that's where I that's where I'm most excited are those custom mods and builds that will come out of this just a normal system and this is kind of going to look, I don't know, like it's not enough.
You have I think a lot of people especially like younger kids are like I want that case to be in you know, like when I was younger, when I was building my computer like I wanted like a crazy looking case because that was like my thing right? Again not not super functional but I do think it's it's and it has that thermaltake kind of thing to it where it's kind of like in your face it's you know, it's something different. So they'll have that case I forget the pricing on it
wasn't as expensive as I thought it was going to be.
Yeah, it's not as expensive it doesn't come with any fans or anything. So that kind of probably will make up for that. And the next thing we saw was their distro case, which is basically like the if you're familiar with their core p five, it's basically a core p five, but they've taken the entire back or the entire case part of it and they've made it a distro plate a hum
to 29 to 49 on that case, by the way,
It's the other made the entire back of the the case, a district plate for custom water cooling. You can see it here. Again, it does look very much like a core p five Except for you, of course have that district plate made for custom water cooling, which we've seen another company do pretty much the same thing with a test bench. So it's great to see it here. If you're doing custom water cooling, it's like a great starting point. Again, this is like a great starting point for an awesome mod I think because the entire back of your system as you can see there is going to look awesome with all the coolant and everything like that in it.
It's called the district case 360. Probably because it fits a 360 millimeter radiator in the front. So first, I think the price was like 499. Yeah, yeah. Which you might think is high for like that type of case. But again, that massive district plate that's where the cost is going for the most part. And then we saw this thing.
This was in a row, CPU cooler slash Ram, Ram cooler. So as you can see the two comes in, and then goes to the memory and then goes out of the memory back into the radiator it.
They told us that this is only for China.
Not to sound and anywhere else yet. I don't. I don't know why.
Yeah, I don't know why either. I think it's a really cool thing. I don't see it being all that efficient just because you're cooling. Another thing.
I'm curious about the installation too, because the two between the CPU block and pump and the memory modules is pretty short. Like, I don't know, I would think you'd have some trouble getting it installed. But
yeah, maybe this is for like eSports cafes and stuff that like you know, the like, just those in general like are hot like a hot areas, right, you know, so that I could see that maybe, you know, and just make the installation easier for something like that. And then finally, they had their tough ram which I think is really awesome. Looking Memory if you look at it it looks it just the design I think it's really cool and it's not RGB which is weird thing for thermaltake having non RGB memory but it's comes in this white in black the black kind of has this done metal top finish to it.
And the white and that image looks a little like off white, but it was it was white the lighting in their booth in their suite was just Yeah. Awesome.
Yeah, just a little off. But yeah, so tough ram available in up to 4400 megahertz, which is super fast as well. So really cool there if you're not looking for RGB memory. There you go. And yeah, old man says, Does ram really need cooling and it really doesn't. I think it's
Yeah, it doesn't know this, but yeah, so that's what thermaltake Hatter that's what we really wanted to cover from thermaltake lots of stuff there. Really I think the district case was really cool for me. I think that was kind The cool thing there. And then we'll talk about what we talked about when we kind of first started was the, what is it called the Intel the Intel compute element is that what
is cloud compute element?
Yeah, so if you guys aren't familiar with it, the Intel compute element, it's basically this. And this is a CPU. What's all on this like CPU, memory storage.
It's like a PC on a It looks like a video card there because it can PCIe slots, but it's like a computer on a
Yeah, it's like a basically a computer on an expansion card. So you get everything. So this is like a core i nine in here. And the whole idea is that all you have to do is essentially have an enclosure which you can kind of see behind here and have a graphics card and you have this small compact gaming system for the most part, which is like the whole idea. It's like modular computing, I guess. So we saw a couple different concepts at the show this one's from razor and it's called their Tomahawk, which you'll be able to buy with different components you'll be able to kind of pick or where they have a set skewed they say I forget
we'll have bofill it'll be available as just a essentially a case and power supply setup and also as a couple skews for complete systems, I believe.
Yeah. So you know, you you load your graphics card like you can see where the the PCI Express connectors here, there's actually two of them. One for the Intel part and the other for your graphics card. Slide it in. You basically connects the your graphics card in your there's a connector on this as well. For power. Yeah, you can you can see it right there. It's a 10 pin. You have that and you have a computer. A pretty powerful computer, too. really want to get one of these into really kind of test it and see what the difference is between a real desktop computer. But I think the idea is really cool. And if and if the cooling is actually a sufficient, because you're putting all of that with this like little cooler here and a high end graphics card inside of an enclosure right next to each other. So we'll come
in and definitely blower style cooler would be better for the GPU. For the compute board, is a blower style cooler, and I think probably be best for the GPU as well. But yeah, it'll be interesting to see how these actually perform in some of the cases we saw like this razor one.
master as well, I don't think that's on our list here. But
yeah, we did see one from coolermaster. And they partnered with cyberpower to build one as well. But like I said, hopefully we get one of these in. I just really want to test you know, how does it actually compared to a desktop PC but I do I like the idea I like the idea from Intel and Sunday from Intel to get excited about we haven't been excited anything from Intel for a while or It seems so that was like a really cool concept and it's good to see razor kind of yeah razor seems like they're kind of gone off the not going off the rails but like their laptops are really good on the desktop side of things they haven't really you know, done anything that great so, you know,
yeah, I mean it's nice to see them expanding out from their bread and butter peripherals and devices like that. So it's cool.
Yeah. Moving on to gigabyte and RS, gigabytes. That gives me the big thing that really impressed me at their booth was they had a Gen three drive that will give you Gen four speeds. So basically, you know if you're on an Intel system and you want superfast NVMe speeds, you You're kind of maxed out, but they have a raid card that will give you those speeds. So they showed us this card, which is called the Oris raid card. I'll try to get to it here in the video. It basically looks like an expand expansion card here as you can see, but it has four 512 gigabyte and Gen three m dot two drives on it, and then you have an industrial grade raid card on there. And you plug us into a Gen three slot and you're going to get around 6500 megabytes a second read and write, which is very fast. And, you know, again, if you're looking to upgrade this might be if you were looking to go over to the AMD side from an Intel system. This kind of gives you an in between where you're not spending as much money to upgrade. And it's just like I said a solid car they also have a Gen four version which they showed at Computex They had a demo that was using a trs 40 board instead of a x 570. And they were actually getting close to 20 20,000 megabytes a second or 20 gigabytes, which is really impressive. Also, a new thing from gigabytes is they're bringing their design air brand down to other products. So design air is sort of like we saw it with their motherboards. They're kind of boards designed for designers and creators and people like that. So the first product is their design air Portable SSD. USB 3.2 Gen two, just like the the T seven touch from Samsung's basically the same type of drive, little Portable SSD. They're great for creators great for dumping 4k content. So you'll have that and then they have memory so they have designer memory as well. Most people who Have you know, Briggs setup for for encoding video and stuff, they don't they're not full of RGB. So the designer memory is pretty basic as you can see. But it will come in a 30 and it's only going to come in a 32 gigabyte kit. So 32 gigabytes 3200 megahertz there. So again, more things for designers and then we saw a new water force graphics card. So water force brand has been kind of relegated towards a relegated for the Oris brand. But now gigabyte is bringing that brand down to their main gigabyte line. So we have their g g, or R tx 2080 Super water force. I don't know the whole name because it's actually longer than that. But basically, it is a graphics card with an integrated waterblock so you can add it into your custom loop. The whole idea is to make is more affordable so the Oris card is highly overclocked much higher overclocked has kind of more features around like the 1400 dollar range, whereas this card will be around the $900 range. You're still getting essentially under the hood you're still getting the same RT x 2080. Super, you're just getting you know, not maybe not as good of a block and maybe, you know, not as high overclocked or higher, higher beyond memory and in GPU.
One, one clarification I'm pretty sure that memory kit was actually a 6464 game.
Yeah, you're right. See us is catching up to me.
So yeah, so that that was the water force card. I like it. I like that. They're bringing it actually bringing a lot of things down to the brand from
Yeah, to make things more affordable because they they had all these you know, super high end technologies that are Few years old now. And now we're going to get them on, you know more affordable and then we're going to see even more crazy new technologies go into the orest products. So talking about that a Oris did launch your gigabyte did launch gaming monitors last year, and they were already branded. Now you're going to see gigabyte branded monitors. The cool thing about these is that they still have the software so if you're not familiar, I hate trying to configure a monitor with you know, you got to go under there with a little buttons and the magic combo to get to the menu you need to get to Yeah, it's just it's just annoying. So they actually have software that makes this much easier. Let's get to it here in the video. So they actually have software that allows you to you know, change brightness, change, contrast, do all that kind of stuff. So you will have that with these monitors. The one that I really liked, what they kind of a really showing off is one that has a built in KVM and was really KVM that sounds like old technology right? But this uses a USB type C connection. And the whole idea is you know, you have your laptop, you have your keyboard and mouse connected via USB to the monitor, you plug in your one type see that is going to bring you of course your video over but it's also going to you know, connect your keyboard and mouse to your laptop or if you you know are on mobile as you can see here, we're connecting it to a to a phone using type See, brings the phone up on the monitor as well. So if you're playing pub g mobile and you want to like own people with keyboard and mouse, you
can do that.
I can see I can see with people with an iPad, I think an iPad is a great tool I actually have one. So like iPad Pro has type see now so you can go ahead and connect it and you know work on just a bigger space. So if you're doing video editing or design and you want a bigger monitor, and And maybe you want keyboard, a mouse, you can go ahead and do that. So very cool stuff there from gigabytes, and we'll move over to alpha. Cool. And the funny thing about alpha cool was the thing I was most excited about was, was not
not anything related to cooling,
not a cooling product. They had these crazy, super thin RGB strips. And I think they kind of just solve a problem, especially alpha cool, of course makes custom cooling products, you know, stuff for custom loops and things like that. And if you're doing any of that your system fills up pretty quickly. There's not a lot of room in your system. So what they've done is they have created the super thin RGB strips that are only 2.5 millimeters thick. Meaning that you could pretty much put them anywhere in your system. You can throw them behind your motherboard even
he I've run into you know, we You're putting those the rubbery ones at the either the magnet Center, the three M tape. Yes. You're like, Oh, this is going to fit perfectly here in this little gap between the side panel and the rest of my case. And it like is just too thick. And it's so frustrating. These will not have that problem. Yeah, you can see like, My fingers are flexible as well. They've got a little bit of flex to them. Yeah, they've got the adhesive on them. They don't weigh hardly anything. So you don't have to, if you put it on the top of your case facing down, it's not going to fall off because they don't weigh anything. So
yeah, so that was, again, the thing I was most excited about. They didn't have a GPU, which they have had, but they pretty much updated it. So that was the ice ice with Aurora. And it is a an IO for your GPU. So I think this is great for to kind of use this one if you're getting into water cooling and you're just not you know you kind of just Want to test the waters there's the block in the pump, the pump is right here on it. You know, if you want to kind of test the waters and see what water cooling is all about, you can do this. They'll have a version for radio on 55,000 series cards, and they'll have a version for GeForce cards. I. I'm not specifically sure on what GeForce cards I think, at least 2728. Yeah. And they'll come into versions, they'll have the version that has the assets held top, that's the one that we just first shown and then they have one with the clear acrylic top. I think it's cool and it does come with the quick disconnects. So you can easily add something else. So again, if you're getting into water cooling, you might want to add something else, you know, in there. Another thing is I think that if you're building and you've done water cooling, but then you're upgrading This is something good to have. It's like when you're doing a custom build, you've got I know a lot of people that just like throw away their old their cooler graphics card so this could fit it on an on an older graphics card or you know if you have you've upgraded or something like that and it will give you water cooling if you don't want to invest in a completely second loop you know what I mean?
Yeah, make sense.
And then they had their new eo which will be shipping off to you Ryan. here very soon. It's their ice bear Aurora, which has been upgraded upgraded to being it's actually the same tubing they use in their industrial coolers. It's all these new products are called Aurora because they have RGB lighting. This one has RGB lighting in on the fans as well as on the block. So exciting this new stuff. I think alpha Cole definitely needed to upgrade a lot of their stuff their blocks everything because they just weren't all that attractive to me, at least in my opinion. When it came to their custom water.
I don't mind I don't mind their blocks. I think they're pretty good looking.
But CPU blocks were not very they didn't.
Yes, I agree. I don't know if I'm a fan of that bear on the yeah I spare either but you know, whatever.
Yeah. So it comes in.
Yeah, yeah, you'll get that one interview so cool stuff there from alpha cool. And who else do we have here? ek so talking about custom water cooling, we went to ek sweet and the big thing was was custom custom they work with case manufacturers to either make a custom case or to have custom district plates made for the case. So they have worked with in one in the past and they had their new 909 Ek which is a custom case that you can buy. This won't be around $900 and the The big thing here is you can see the district plate right here. This is not a
you're not showing it. Well, yeah, yes. Oh, I'm not showing it, huh,
there we go.
I gotta I gotta learn a podcast you know, come back from see. So here is the district plate which is basically acts as a motherboard tray
Da It looks so great. I'm so again and it just like how it includes the
so it's got the cable management, yeah. mysteries for it. But they're also like a cable comb. So it organizes your cables. So when they come out the front side, they're nice and organized and neat and and look look clean. So I really appreciate that kind of,
yeah, it it was one of the best looking cases. I mean, you can see what it's going to look like there. So and
they've modified that case quite a bit because I looked again when I got home at the 909 and, I mean they've moved the IO ports there. Yeah, you know, your USB, those are usually on the side. So they've moved that
the Hey this is I managed to fit a radiator like a foray into two of them yeah,
yeah I'm gonna start at the case
it looks very cool. So yeah so you have that I think looks absolutely
yeah yeah Mike says that's a good looking case
yeah it's 909 hundred
without anything it's just with the case a distro plate so yeah
I like I said the cable comes I think it's just like the icing on the cake. We've seen district plates they're nothing new. But with a cable comes in there. I think it's absolutely amazing how
they've done that shipping costs good customer service but shipping is expensive. Well it just kind of depends I guess where you buy it from and you're shipping directly from them and then you possibly shipping might be expensive.
Yeah, it all It all depends. You can buy a lot of ek stuff in you know on Amazon and and other things. Just like that as well, um, and then case specific district plates. So if you are doing if you buy a case or do a build and you have a specific case, and you want to do your own custom water cooling loop, the cool thing to do now is district plates. I think that's kind of become the norm, I think so why not have a district plate that's specifically made for that case? Now, a lot of companies will sell these you can see these back here. These are district plates, like this one universally. Yeah, like this one looks like a 360. This is a 240 This is a 120 Mitchell made to fit and all those places, but why not have one that will fit the case specifically so you don't have to worry about any issues with Clarence things fitting. So they have one here that is for the Coursera 1000 D massive case. You can see that slides in
their case. Also, which means I mean, from that first image it looks like that might be like a standard 360 sized plate or something. No, that's like 360 no 480 by
double four. Yeah, it's huge.
Yeah, two pounds on it on that one.
But, but yeah, so you can see how you know, the district plates all set up inside. It's really really cool. I think that you know, just having them made for cases specifically is great. Here's one in the Define wasn't defined our six
star Sasha, we have that as well. So lots of like I said, district plates are kind of the new thing. So
So yeah, no, I think it's a does those look pretty sweet. The defining our six one is pretty,
pretty cool. I mean, I think this
is our six right over here. And I'm like, oh, man, that would look sweet. And
yeah. This is kind of the year of District plates. I fail. You know what I mean? Um, so yeah, so the last thing, which I think was really cool, at least for me, because it gave us a preview of what to expect, you know, I mean, and like a game it really did get give us a preview of what to expect going forward. So we got to meet with Pfizer, and if you're, you haven't heard of fyz on they actually make the controllers that are in quite a lot of SSDs out there they're they're one of the big I think it's fyz on
who's the other one a marvel marvel so no
well Samsung obviously damn well yeah. Oh my gosh, why can't I pick wasn't si Yes, it's like was it commotion? Yeah,
yeah, yeah. So there's, there's like they're one of the bigger ones. And what they were showing because again, fyz on does not make a commercial product. They don't make a product that we as consumers can buy will find their controller and products we can buy. But what they were showing at the show was that they have a eight terabyte NVMe. So we haven't seen a terabyte NVMe drives yet. But they had one that was working with their controller, which is pretty nice. Using q LC memory. So this is like we saw it first here. And now you're going to see it come out and drives a little bit later. You know what I mean? Which is really, really cool. And then they had a 16 terabyte SATA SSD, using their controller as well.
So I'm really excited about Yeah, 16
terabytes on an SSD. I think, you know, slowly people are finally getting into like replacing normal hard drives, because capacities have increased. And that is, you know,
I'm pretty pumped for that. So
So yeah, that's
that's a that's like again, I think you'll see a terabyte on NVMe late this year, and you'll probably see 16 terabyte on SSD maybe not this year but probably moving into next year so like I said it was cool to visit with fives on and kind of see all that stuff because this is like this is like a year away I think on a lot of these when you're going to see it in actual consumer drives. So yeah, so go to the chat because I don't I haven't been looking at the chat mod killer course there. Yes. Course there had to kind of like a showroom. He asked if course there had a showroom. And yes, I do live in Pittsburgh. I don't like to give out exactly where I live. But I do not live in West view or Ross. I actually grew up in West view, but I don't live there now. For those who are asking. But yeah, that is uh, that was CES man. We're almost at an hour and a half.
That's just so what we saw at CES.
Yeah, and that's not even all of it. As I said, we do have bringing up here if you just go on the website and click on ces 2020 that has like everything that we cover.
More on there that we didn't cover tonight.
check out that page. I can bring it up here for you guys as well.
You know, and we'll be we'll be covering some of that as well on the 13th on home gadget geeks podcast. You can check them out over at the average guy.
February's February 13 February 13. Is that not what I said? You said the 13th. Oh,
Yeah, February 13. We will be there. And we'll have we'll put it out on social media and everything where you guys can go ahead and check all that out. But coming next week, we're finally getting back to reviews. I feel like I haven't reviewed a product in forever. But first talking about this Oris monitors. I got one interview so I'll be taking a look at the Oris see the 27 Q. This is their 27 inch 1440 p gaming monitor 165 hertz one ms response time 1500 our curve. So pretty excited to check that out. And then I did say a coming soon This mouse That's right, right here. This is the coolermaster mmm 711 lightweight gaming mouse basically they've taken their mm 710 and they've added RGB lighting so I felt you know, I felt that was missing in the last one. So again, this ultra we've cable, love with it. I love the camera.
Yeah, yeah. So that will be coming next week and then you will be reviewing the Arctic. The Arctic liquid freezer to Which I thought like the pump design is a little interesting on this if you guys. Well it is and what a lot of people I don't think realize is there's that little round piece supply eater.
No, that's a VRM fan.
interest. The thing that I found interesting about this one is that the, the tubing comes directly off of the pump block. And I feel that that kind of you don't I mean, kind of will be hard for installation because the ones like I'm looking at my NZX the cracking it's on the side so I can easily move it. These looks like they're fixed and you can't move them around. So I'm interested to see what kind of how your installation goes for that one. So
yeah, they everything's pretty fixed on it. So taking some of the pictures was a little difficult, just to like get things to lay how I want
Yeah, I hate that. I'm like ha states. Mike asks if there is a stream a twitch stream after the show? Yes, we will be streaming on Twitch. I will put up the
the twitch page which I've got my name right here. Yeah.
There it is. So,
so minutes after. Yeah, go offline here. Um,
but we also at the end of the podcast we talked about if we did anything we were at CES. But you have I mean, you had your new camera there. I mean, how does that go?
I mean, I new camera. I mean, I got it like in February or March, I gotta after CES last year. But I used it seemed fine. I didn't use my new lens setup with it. I just didn't want to experiment with it. Like while we're trying to do work like I didn't think that was the best time to do it. I'll just get some more time in on that. I talked about that lens and adapter last on the last part. Cast, I think Yeah, yeah. I mean, the whole last week was just engulfed in tech. So I didn't buy anything. I didn't. I didn't want to see any new tech a couple of days because it was just overload, right? Yeah. I did get my Disney plus setup today though.
I can start one in the morning. Mandalorian. Yeah, it is good. I have to say Mandalorian is very good. It's definitely worth checking out. mana killer asked if there any job openings not currently, but hit us up on social media. And we can kind of talk about that if that's something you're interested in. I haven't done you know, I got to use my new lens that I bought. You can come see it. I can't even point that way. Right there. That's kind of the setup that I've been using to film the a role for most of our CS videos. I got to use that this week, which was kind of fun. It was kind of challenging because this is a fixed lens. There's no zoom. So to get some of the shots, we kind of had to move things around. Yeah. And do all that. Um, but yeah, that's pretty much it. Traveling tired. Ces just kind of killed us, which I think it does every year but I did have a lot of fun. I had a lot of fun this year was good. Yeah, we
had some good time. So we've met a lot of good people, too. Right. Like, yeah, you know, obviously met up with some folks, like we said at the beginning but met Jeff and Steve from craft computing met Adam from ecos Fox. Yes. ran into them multiple times throughout the week. So
yeah, I'd be like them out. We were just like running into them everywhere. It seemed like which is really cool, because they're really cool guys. Obviously, we got to see Andy from he technics. We did a video area. And Peter Yeah, sorry, Peter. We did a we did a best tech of 2019 video with them. So if you want to check out their channel for that as well. But yeah, that's pretty much it. We're going on just, we're just hitting an hour and a half right now of our live stream. So we're going to end things here. Check out twitch TV forward slash thing computers, we will be gaming on their Apex legends, the new, what does that call?
I don't know. It's like duros. Like all Yeah,
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