Ep.74 Let Go My Lego (Clayburn - Collecting Lego)
6:18AM Jan 26, 2020
Good day everyone you're listening to type your hobby and this is episode 74 LEGGO my Eggo. I mean, let go my Lego. Whoo See, I messed up But anyways, yes, I'm your host Alex and today I have the honor to have claybourne as my guest on the show how you doing today?
I'm doing well how are you?
Good, good. Sorry I messed up the title I was reading and I'm like, don't say don't say ego don't say ego and of course, I say I go.
Yeah, no problem. It's probably a common mistake.
Yeah, you definitely want to eat it goes and not Legos. Anyways, today, we're gonna be talking about Claiborne's hobby. Before we do that, who is claybourne?
lol I do a lot of things. But the reason that I'm on this particular podcast is my hobby of collecting Legos. And not only collecting them, but I also have a YouTube channel with a friend of mine called blocky talkie where we talk about Legos.
That's awesome. Well, you just jumped into the right topic. So blocky talkie Do you have any social media links where people can find you? Let's say Twitter, Instagram, and of course YouTube.
Yeah, we're pretty much on everything. Twitter, Facebook, Instagram. I think even Tumblr. blocky talkie is the username across those and then of course YouTube is our channel youtube.com slash blocky talkie
perfect. I'll put that in description so people can go find it and go check it out. I I looked at a few videos and it just brought back nostalgia, but I feel like I will talk about that later on. But yes, yeah. Today, it's all about you about your hobby collecting Legos. How did you get introduced to collecting Legos?
Well, I think probably like most people Everyone just sort of has them. You know, they're, they're just, they're just around. So probably as a kid, you've come across Legos before. And so I know from an early age, I had some Legos, but nothing, you know, nothing crazy, just like a few random pieces that, you know, are probably from like the 70s or 80s. And just kind of got left around and passed down. And I ended up with these few little pieces couldn't really do much with them. But I'd say when I was about 10, or 11, is probably when I really got interested in in Legos. And that was, particularly because I was did a space camp for a summer with my aunt. And at the end of the Space Camp, where was taking place was at this Space Museum. And so they had a little gift shop. And in that gift shop, there was a little Lego set, space oriented Lego set. And she got me that Lego set was probably five or $8 set. And so that was I think my first actual completed Lego set that You know, I built the Legos myself instead of just, you know, playing around with some random pieces. And from that moment on, I just I really liked, like Legos. So that's that's where it sort of all began, I guess. But more recently in my adult in my adult life, I've been more of a an actual collector because I can, you know, afford to buy Legos on my own rather than just asking Santa Claus for sets every year as I did when I was a child.
Yeah, yeah, I definitely did not do that. No, of course I did that to the kid. Like it's a bunch of random but actual Do you still own your first Lego like that spaceship for that? I don't know if it was a spaceship maybe was a Lego? Yeah.
It's an odd way. It's called the Lego hover Tron. And so it's, it's sort of space theme, but it's not classic space like, like a realistic Space Shuttle. It's sort of like a little flying disc that somebody would maybe hover around on the moon in some kind of futuristic vision of the world. So that it wasn't you know, too early. lipstick. I don't actually I probably do have the set somewhere because a lot of my childhood Legos or somewhere in my parents house, who knows where really, but I did actually go online and and buy just another version of it maybe a year or two ago just because I wanted to make sure that I had it here with me.
Now, I'm not gonna assume your age but growing up, I grew up with Legos as well. And I grew up I guess with in between two generations of Legos where it was just Legos about like space and nature and houses. And then they went into like Legos about like movies like Harry Potter and stuff like that. Did you? Is there one you prefer more than others?
Yeah, well, in terms of my age, I think I'm 32 I do the math there because once once you hit 30 I think I think you just sort of stopped remembering or stopped paying attention.
yeah, I think when my when, in my childhood, certainly there was a lot more LEGO sets from Lego that weren't licensed properties. My Favorites being like pirates. I like the castle ones a lot. I didn't actually have very many of those. I had a lot of pirate sets, though. So still as an adult, I, I liked those better, I prefer those. But I do have a lot of Star Wars sets. Because I'm a huge Star Wars fan too. But yeah, there's Harry Potter, there's Marvel and DC ones as well. And I might have a, you know, one or two from various themes like that if I if I happen to like the actual property, but um, I really wish Lego would focus more on the, on the on the regular, kind of classic or, you know, the non branded sets, because it just seems a lot more creative and a lot more interesting than to like piggyback off of an existing intellectual property. Yeah. And in particularly to Paris when like I was saying, it's, it's my favorite And so, one big disappointment, of course, is Pirates of the Caribbean. It came out, you know, whenever ago and Lego makes Pirates of the Caribbean LEGO sets. But I think as part of that deal with Disney, they had to stop making their regular pirate theme. Because you know, Disney would think, well, you're probably competing with us, or you know, you're not getting a cut out of that set. And you're, you're, you know, you'd be gaining from our Pirates of the Caribbean brand if we were doing them alongside each other. And so for a long time, there was no pirate sets. And then, I think a few years ago, there was like, one, one or two years of Finally, new pirate sets.
That's interesting. So actually, speaking of which, does Lego have any original creations today? Or is it mostly all license from movies and TV shows?
Yeah, they do. They actually have some interesting kind of their own creations that are outside of the realm of just, you know, typical pirates or nights or, you know, city construction workers or police, that kind of thing where they've actually created their own fictional world, and I don't really I'm not too familiar with those Ninjago, of course, is a big one. And there was a movie based on that. And I think there's a TV show. There's another one that's like Nexo Knights i think is what it's called. And I'm not very familiar with that. But I think the premise is some kind of like sci fi take on classic castle and knights. But it's very, like, it seems like it's futuristic, like they have like these energy, swords and things like that. And I think there's a couple other things like that. So it's certainly an evolution I think of what had been going on before but you know, with pirates and like, even the Wild West sets, they were fairly grounded in reality, but they still had this kind of like fictional world. You know, the, the individual minifigures would have names, and there was a little bit of a backstory to them, although it wasn't that important. But certainly now it seems like Lego in terms of its own properties are focusing on these kind of themes that are itself some kind of fix. In a world that they're building, which is interesting, but it's not really my cup of tea I would prefer just, you know, just kind of more plain realistic. You know, give me cops and robbers Give me the Wild West give me pirates give you everything,
actually speaking about everything. Did you ever own or still own a box just filled with Legos like random pieces?
Yeah, that's it, my childhood certainly was just basically that like the Legos just ended up in one big box. Now in my, in my adulthood, I tried to be a little more organized. But that's still pretty difficult. And so I still do have a big been a larger pen this time, but it's just kind of full of full of random pieces sometimes have put together sets and things like that just from falling apart as I throw them in the bin. And so I've tried, I've been trying to be a little more organized lately in terms of storage. So instead of just throwing everything into it, then I might if I decided to take it, take a part of said I might put it in a Ziploc bag to keep to keep all of those pieces together in one one area. Or I have like four loose breaks I try to have like a sorting system but you know you still end up with stuff that you don't either don't have a place for just don't have time to go through and sort them and they're just kind of hanging out in the Ben.
I grew up with Lego as well and it seems like every year they always come up with new these new designs for new pieces of Lego and I had to collect I had a I can't remember what it was exactly was like an alien and had tubes and they didn't necessarily look like Lego pieces they clicked in like I Cameron what other type of building block but it seems like there's sometimes like be focused on just blocks and then they go out and make extravagant shapes that get further and further away from Lego I. I'm not exactly sure how to explain it. This is a question that just popped up in my head. Are you fan of that? Like the pieces that kind of like, step away You said
you had you had these as a kid?
Yeah, yeah, it was like a tube and then you there's a pump action and then it's an alien.
I mean, it sounds like it could be Bionicle. I know that that's pretty popular and it's technically Lego, but it's kind of its own Different thing or maybe like late Lego Technic? I think it's also something a little like that. I've never really got into that. So I'm not really sure precisely what it is. But I know the Bionicle ones certainly have some kind of odd looking creature alien type thing that's like, you know, not a mini figure. It's more like built to scale is a humanoid, but like a, I don't know, six inch to 12 inch figurine of some sort made of pieces. So it feels like Lego but then it also feels like something different because of that. I don't know if maybe that was it. I didn't
have all the goals of course but no, it was more
as you might
not then I do because I never got into those
only the first generation But no, this one was like an alien spaceship you build and the aliens were green little the same size as Lego men. And you would put them in these pods and then there's like this pump that you just pump them through the pod. Anyways, so yeah, to that question. Are you a fan of the Lego pieces that like derail a little bit from the original blocks and just
yeah I don't mind them i think i think it sort of just depends on the piece you know like these things that you're talking about they might have been the UFO theme or something like that which I don't know there was there was regular UFO theme which I did have some but they were basically many figures with like a normal head shape and then they had a helmet that would go on them. And then they had later on this was like, beyond my childhood of maybe a few years after I kind of stopped actually playing with Legos as a kid they came out with I don't know if it was called aliens or some kind of extraterrestrial type thing. And I do know that they looked like they had some kind of green molded head that you would put on so their head was actually a different kind of funky shape. Yeah, that was it and i and i don't know I'd had those many figures generally aren't my favorite. I see. You see it a lot with the Simpsons, for instance, the Simpsons mini figures that came out, obviously the Simpsons all have, you know, unique head shapes as part of their They're look, so it's kind of a requirement, you can't really make regular minifigure Simpsons characters. But they also did it with some Disney ones like Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck, and Minnie and Daisy Duck. And so they have these big head molds, which they look weird to me. And then they kind of don't feel so much like Lego. So I try to avoid them. But there have been some in the, in the past that I've, that I've seen and i and i and I've liked like the Ariel and the Ursula one. They have normal heads, but their hair is a little different than minifigure hair. It's a little larger and you know more Disney fight I guess. And so it's nice, but I like the fact that they also fit on normal mini fakers. And you can you know, swap these hair pieces around whereas a homer simpson head is always just going to look like Homer Simpson and you can't really do much with it other than create a Homer Simpson.
That's it homers body belongs to homers head. That's it.
I would look it would look pretty freakish on on anything else pretty much on Ariel,
could you imagine?
But yes, so for you What is the connection between you collecting Legos and making YouTube videos?
So my friend, his name is Randy, we grew up in this small town together and we were both Lego fans. Like I think at the time, though, we didn't really know that about each other because we got to know each other in high school. He was a couple years ahead of me, and we became close in high school doing different extracurricular activities there. And we just kind of, you know, similar in a lot of regards like well, you know, just being nerds and making a lot of the same things, but our, our love of Lego never really came up back then. And it was since was high school. It was kind of, you know, we neither of us probably played with Legos or really collected Legos at that time, you know, we had grown out of that phase. So then we you know, we moved on, I moved to New York City, he moved to San Antonio, and we still keep in touch online, but we never would see each other because you We're in two different cities now all the way across the country. And so it keeps up online. And I noticed his avatar that he would use on a lot of things like, you know, Gmail and his even his facebook profile picture would be like a little Lego minifigure. And occasionally, he'd see that I would talk about Legos online and share LEGO sets or something on Facebook. And so then we realized, hey, we both we both like Legos. And we actually have quite a bit of Legos. And then separately from that, sort of, we found out that we are also both big fans of john and Hank Green. They do a YouTube channel called Vlogbrothers. And the premises of that is that there's these two brothers that do a video each week and it's just a blog basically. And so we thought let's do something kind of like that. But with with Legos just so that we can kind of keep in touch. Since you know we don't get to see each other and then also since we both are big fans of Lego would be a good focus for for the vlog. So that's essentially where it began and and why we do it and just kind of thinking about it. How we can relate Lego to kind of just things that are going on in the world or that interesting to us or interesting to other Lego fans different aspects about collecting Legos, like we've talked about storage we've probably talked about the weird Disney shaped heads and things like that before on the channel. So any kind of little weird thing about collecting labels that comes up? We usually have a video about it or if not, we'll probably make one at some point.
I love how Lego brought you together even though you're living in different cities and you're making videos and it's like an I wouldn't say an excuse but it's a reason to stay in touch.
Yeah, yeah, we you know, we're so certainly a lot closer now. Particularly because, you know, we stay in touch about creating the videos as well. So sometimes, you know, we have to coordinate on you know, doing some kind of, we've had a this brick link studio collaboration project on the channel once which brick link studio is a digital logo designer program, and we did a collaborative build within it where we were each Basically in the in the program together online being able to build something together digitally and so that was a fun one so there's like little things like that to where you know it's it's a little more live than just the blogging back and forth
that's awesome and just for you not both of us together How big is your collection? I know if you guys combined it together be massive but for you I would say as units not individual pieces
Yeah, yeah, I you know, I don't know I would say that I I'm not I'm definitely not like the biggest Lego collector in the world. I've just from being part of the Lego community. You know, I see there's, there's some people out there that are spend a lot of money on Lego and are really serious about it and have pretty impressive collections and setups. So I think compared to most, I'd say, you know, hardcore Lego collectors. Probably both of our set our collections are pretty modest. For me, I'd say I probably have like 15 to 20 sets that I have, like built in on display somewhere in the apartment. And then probably about like, maybe 20 to 30 sets that are just in pieces or, or maybe 2030 cents worth of pieces, because some of those are just, you know, loose sets that are loose pieces that I bought over the years. And the real thing that I have here, that's kind of kind of nice, but also kind of annoying is that I probably have like 30 to 50, just unopened boxes of Lego sets, just because I haven't had time to get around to building them, or you know, I don't have space for them. Or it's just something that you know, was on sale, and I wanted it and I didn't want to miss out on it. Speaking of which, do you buy your LEGO sets online or in person? Mostly online? So I know I had a video where I talked about this before that I since I'm in New York City, we actually have like a surcharge on our Lego stores here, which I didn't really notice, but I kept I kept seeing that. It was a lot cheaper to order things off of lego.com. Then if I were to just buy it in the store locally, and I got to wondering like what's going going on here and I was researching it. And I was talking to Randy about it in his store in San Antonio is is the same price as the legal com prices. And so I thought this is weird. Why is New York City marked up and essentially just comes down to being the fact that it's New York City. It's marked up because it's New York City, but also because the legal stores here themselves are kind of a tourist destination. So aside from the fact that yes, they can charge that it is to support the kind of extra stuff that they do. We have a lot more events here than most Lego stores, probably. And then we have a lot more models on display. Every lego store will have some kind of nice cool displays, but ours are probably a bit more expensive and harder to maintain. Because we have like a statue of liberty one and we have these like nice murals and things. So it's, it's kind of a fair trade off maybe in that regard, because there's a lot more going on at the Lego stores but certainly if I only bought from the lego store in person, it would cost me quite a bit more
in order margin. Since your In New York, yeah, you must get like some of the coolest things you get out of Lego. And speaking of which, what is the coolest? Or was the coolest thing you've ever seen made out of Lego? Well,
it's probably just cool to me. But I would say that it's myself in Lego.
What? Oh, that's awesome.
So being I don't know if this is specifically a New York thing or what but one year we did have, they had this. Like, they call it an apple hunt thing. And it was just basically like a you show up and I think I don't even remember what the event was, but they eat maybe answer some questions or you call it a scavenger hunt. But there was really no competition to it. It was ultimately just random. Everyone got like a raffle ticket. And then they would select a winner. And so they did this I think for like four weeks, and we went to one of the weeks and I and I was a winner one of the weeks and then the winners of all four weeks. One of them becomes like a grand prize winner or something or there's like five winners of Every week, each one of those, there's a grand prize winner. So then there's like four grand prize winners, and the four grand prize winners, they get a mini figure that Lego makes of them, not like I don't think it's super custom or anything, but they, they select from pieces that they have available that that look like you. And they do a mosaic portrait out of Lego. Have you so I have this huge portrait of myself in Lego, and a little mini figure that they that they gave me and so I think that's probably my most special pieces not just because you know, it's it's me and Lego, but also just because the the experience behind it was a lot of fun. And we got to go to the lego store and they had a master builder there that came and helped us or walked us through how they go about building models for the store to decorate. And we got a bunch of Lego sets as a prize to and other things. So it was a lot of fun.
That's That's so awesome. Please tell me that's on Instagram or Tumblr.
Yeah, I have. I have that. Probably everywhere I've shared it on my own personal Facebook when I have it I think every now every now and then it makes an appearance in a video because it's you know it's there it's it's there in my in my Lego room in the background somewhere. So every now and then it shows up in one of our videos. I'm so tempted right now to just like take a pause out of this interview. I know I can't just take a look at it because my mind is running wild. But anyways, yeah, I think I think actually in the in the latest video I did, I did talk about large sets like I was just going through that I have a lot of large sets and I was thinking I should retire some of them to make room for some newer ones to put out on display. And in that I think I did have a clip of the pile of unopened LEGO sets that I have, and that's where my most a portrait is setting. So usually anytime I show my pile of unopened LEGO sets, you can see my my Lego face there in the corner.
That's so cool. I'm gonna have to take a look at it after this interview. But, yes, if you had the opportunity to create a Lego set, what would it be?
I think it That's, that's a tough one I, I'm not like creating my own LEGO sets generally. I know there's a there's a huge community of doing that they call them mocks my own creations mo sees. I haven't done a lot of that. And I think just in general, I don't know, like, I feel like the part of the fun of Lego is you can just kind of build whatever so like you don't really need, I think I even had a video they have this LEGO Ideas you might have heard of is is a project that Lego does, where fans can submit an idea for a Lego set to it. And then if you get a certain amount of support from the community, they'll actually make the Lego set and then sell it so like the Beatles, Yellow Submarine, things like that. I think the wall the set, they had like a set of women of NASA, these kind of sets that you might see from time to time those came about from from that program. And so I had a video once where I was talking about that and I thought it's neat, and it's a nice fun way to get the community involved. But it's kind of I don't know it's kind of almost against the idea of Lego because if you want to make you know a Wally, you don't have to buy it from Lego to do it, you can just get the pieces and and make a wildly. So if it's kind of interesting like you don't you don't need Lego to make a set for you, in order to to build a set, you can just go ahead and make whatever whatever you feel like so that's that's what's I think interesting about it and why I would say, I probably don't have anything particularly in mind just because there's nothing that I couldn't not make necessarily already. Does.
That makes any sense? No, it does. It does. It absolutely does. Back when I was young, my friends and I would make two Lego cars like we try to beef them up, make them really strong. And we would try to like Lincoln of rubber long rubber band in between both of them. So we would hook it in and then we pull it back and whichever car would survive would win.
Yeah, that's that's a good challenge. Yeah, I like I like those kind of things. I've been trying to do some more of those on the channel two with Randy where we have some kind I build challenge. I think one thing that we've been doing, we got this Lego mug. It's not technically a Lego brand, but it's Lego compatible mug. So because you know somebody, I have people who know your Lego fan, they buy you these things. And so I got that for one year for Christmas or birthday or something. And he happened to get the same thing at some point. So we noticed we both had this, we thought let's, let's decorate it. Let's for the chat for like a Building Challenge between the two of us. Let's decorate it for the season. And so the first one we did was in summer, and we need to do one now for fall. But basically, we just kind of decorated the mug to reflect how we feel about summer. And we each did one and I'd like to do a little more like that. So like something like an indestructible cars test like you and your friends did could be an interesting build challenge as well.
You know, the only challenge after that was actually picking up the pieces and not stepping on it. Of course that's the cliche with Legos.
Frank good training, good training for like, if you wanted to be a Lego engineer because one thing as a fan of Legos I've noticed is that they do a good job generally of making their sets. sturdy. And when you when you go, if you were to just grab some random Lego pieces and build like, say a house, you're generally gonna just like stack Legos on top of each other right and make walls. And then basically if you just if you push on it, it's just going to fall over. So when Lego when you get a Lego instruction booklet, official Lego instructions, they have them kind of layered on top of each other in a way that reinforces all the time. And so like every little step of the process, it seems like they've put a lot of thought into, you know, how do we how do we really stabilize the structure. And so generally, you can knock over a sad or crash a car, if it's an official Lego design, and it doesn't break apart too badly. doesn't like shatter into 1000 pieces, but it does, you know, major sections might come apart and a few loose pieces here and there.
Basically, it's like building a real house the same same concept. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Well, I guess I guess they want their little Lego people to be safe inside.
Yes. From all the harsh weather.
What would you say is the best part about collecting Legos?
I think I think kind of the open endedness of it in terms of just what you can do with it as well as with with it as a hobby. Like, you know, I never thought that I'd be making YouTube videos about it, but as a nice kind of way to get into video creation and video editing. And you know, there's certain a lot of people who do photography, with Lego, I've seen some really impressive Lego photography out there. And then you know, people who do what are called brick films, which is basically claymation. But with Legos. And then also just Of course, building building things. You can build whatever you whatever you want. And there's even people who just build in the digital form. So there's people who don't necessarily buy Lego pieces or have a lot of Lego pieces, but they build pretty impressive models within the Digital designer program. programs that are available.
Have you ever used Lego to solve A daily problem, let's say, Oh, you have something that's not standing up straight like a table or like, I don't know, like a tripod for your phone out of Legos or anything like that.
Yeah, I've seen I've seen a few cool like life hacks of Legos and I've, I've thought about doing it and I've tried a few little things, but I never really stick to using it. The thing that I use it most often for that's just kind of a non legal purpose is actually whenever I am doing some videos, sometimes if I want to get a close shot with my camera, you know, I don't I don't have a tripod that will just like you basically want the camera setting on the same level as the Lego because it's so small, you know. So but if you lay it down and then it just kind of like leans over the lens leans down, and it's not the right angle. And so like I'll actually just prop up the lens with some Lego pieces, so that I get it at the right angle that I wanted on. So I'm actually like, you know, using kind of using Legos as a tripod while I'm filming Legos.
Legos is the solution for everything. It could do anything and everything. Yeah, yeah. Debt probably could sue for you What was your biggest challenge when you first started collecting Legos?
I guess united as a kid it was, it was mostly just you know, waiting for Christmas and birthdays. So the waiting because it rarely did I have money to go off and you know, buy my own LEGO sets. So it was usually came down to telling my parents, you know what I wanted for my birthday, telling Santa Claus what I wanted for Christmas. And then those would be the two big times of the year when I would get a lot of sets and then between between those days, I just be playing with them. So that just kind of that that waiting until the time you can finally open a new Lego set, which has certainly changed now because I can pretty much buy a Lego set whenever I feel like it.
So yeah, I was gonna just ask is that your current challenge? Of course not. So what is your current challenge?
Yeah, now Now the challenge is more
about space really like in I, like I said, I have maybe 15 or so LEGO sets on display, and they range some of them are, you know, fairly large and then others Just kind of little things little, you know, tiny little steps that I just have sitting there on a shelf. And so over to overtime though, and especially living here in New York City, and not having a lot of space in the apartment, you kind of just run out of places to put the sets and then you have to realize, well, now I can either take part some of these sets in store them if I want to put up something new, or you know, buy a bigger apartment, which is, you know, too expensive, so, and collecting Legos themselves is fairly expensive. So I guess that's a secondary challenge to I like to think that it's not such a great challenge simply because simply because Legos might be a good investment. People say that prices of Legos have generally been going up. So I feel like you know, if if the recession does happen, and we're not doing well, I can always sell off my Legos and, and survive by some food,
once again, multiple purposes for Legos.
And now listen, you had a stressful day and you wonder relaxed as collecting Lego And playing with Legos and building with Legos help you out with that. Yeah,
I'm not I'm not a terribly stressed person just in general so I don't have to worry about that kind of thing too much but I will say that it is nice to sort of get away more from I think the kind of like fast paced internet life you know, like I'm constantly checking email and checking social media and responding to things and doing things and watching TV at the same time and all this stuff going on. So it's nice to just think that you know, for the next hour or two, I'm just going to be following these instructions from Lego and putting pieces on top of pieces. And it's it's just very method method up myth with the word I do not
know but I know where you're going with it. It's a very relaxed methodical, methodical
yes it's it's a very methodical I yeah, that's so it is relaxing. It's It's It's nice to just kind of not have to worry about anything else for a while just kind of a nice timeout. And then at the end of it, you hopefully have something nice to look at unless you bought the Star Wars sandcrawler set. Just Just a giant brown mess Really?
Which is a perfect segue to my next question. Has it ever stressed you out whether you the pieces keep falling apart or you just can't stuck two pieces together?
Yeah, fortunately, now they go has those separator pieces, which are actually pretty handy. Pretty much every Lego set gives you this little special tool that allows you to pick apart stuck Lego bricks. And I've used that quite a bit. And that certainly made things a lot easier. But I will say that the the sandcrawler that I mentioned, it took probably nine hours to build total over the course of like, three days. And normally the large sets aren't such a problem. Like they might take time but you can you there's some joy in it, but this one, it just seemed very tedious, because there's a lot of like little pieces that were just basically the same thing over and over and over. And so became very tedious. And then at the end, like I said, it's just you've probably seen a sample color from Star Wars is just, it's just a giant garbage truck basically. And so at the end, you don't really have anything that's that interesting to look at. It's just this brown box with on wheels. And so that is kind of disappointing then at the end when that's that's the end result as opposed to like a Tie Fighter which looks pretty cool and interesting and also was a lot more fun to build so I think that was probably the most stress but I don't think things like that happen too often because generally it's it's that too tedious putting a set together and once you're done you're you have a pretty nice object a display or something you got so
yeah, you put in the effort and it came out it took you some time but at least you can complete it and say you know what, I'm not touching this again. If I touch it's gonna fall apart. I'm just gonna leave there. It's gonna look nice. No, I I used to have the separator as well. But the one piece you can never separate no matter how hard I tried it was it. I don't know what it was called. But it's like that the tools little dots and it's very, it's flat. If you get to those stuck together, it was impossible to separate them.
Yeah. The ones that I don't like or the, I guess they're like tech, Lego Technic pieces or something. So they're like this little special connectors. They're usually blue or gray and they just like stick into like little holes for turning. Oh yes, like an axle sort of. So those things sometimes if you get them stuck in the wrong brick, then they can be tough to get out the Lego set separator tool does have a way for you to push those out. But it's it's still kind of difficult. Speaking of which, have you
ever actually broken any Lego pieces?
I have broke I have as in I own broken Legos. I don't know if I was the one that actually broke them or not. Because these are probably really old ones that I just have had on my life and who knows, you know, maybe when I got them they were already broken. Or you know, maybe the dog ate it or my sister broke it or who knows. But I had been going through some of my older ones and sorting them out. And I have like a little baggie now of of the broken pieces. I don't think that recently I've broken any pieces because they are they're pretty sturdy. I think he would have to really work to break a piece. I know that recently I cut my finger open on a on a piece. So like I feel like you know humans are a lot more breakable than the Lego so i don't i don't know if I've ever broken a Lego piece.
Well let's knock on wood or on in this case knock on Lego while those cheesy, but it does not happen.
You knock on plastic.
Yeah, knock on plastic don't go or don't step on it. Just knock on it. How has YouTube being about Legos affected how you go about collecting Legos?
Um, probably it probably hasn't been too healthy for the Lego collecting hobby because um, it certainly made me collect a lot more probably than I normally would. Which isn't great for the pocketbook. A lot of times you know, I want to buy the the newest coolest set just because you know it's something to show off. I know that my audience will be interested in it. And sometimes I buy things that normally I wouldn't buy, which is, I guess kind of a double edged sword because it is interesting to have a reason to explore something that I normally wouldn't want to explore like Ninjago. For instance, I've never, I never had really heard about it. I'm not into the TV show. I didn't know anything about Ninjago. And because the movie was coming out, I thought, you know, what, what the heck is Ninjago? So I did a, I did an episode about what is Ninjago. And so I had to actually learn about it. And I think I have a Ninjago Lego set because of it. And same thing with like, there used to be this thing called mixels, which were basically just weird little monsters, misshapen monster kind of things built out of Legos. So things like that kind of come up where it's not something that if it were just me collecting, I would buy but since it's something that would be interesting to talk about on the channel, I go ahead and get it so I can do that.
It's too bad that for people like in your situation who builds Lego stuff, that there's no like rental service routine, rent out shopping, build it pick it apart. And
here's the there's the resale value of it. So I don't feel too bad. Like I said, whenever I, whenever I buy sets, I always feel well, you know, at least I can probably sell it if I needed to, would you sell it completed
or sell it back in pieces so people can build it
back in pieces, because that's probably what they would want to do. Although maybe a giant set, maybe there could be like a job of building Legos for people who are too lazy to build them themselves. They'll have the option.
Exactly. Yeah. Now, what are some misconceptions for people who
collect Legos? I don't know that that might be something that he'd be better suited to answer actually, because maybe what to do you have any misconceptions about people like me?
Well, I I love playing with Legos. And this is not my misconception, but if I'm just thinking for the general audience, maybe some people think it's childish because as a toy, I don't know. Yeah. Would that be something they'd be misconception?
Yeah, I think that could probably be fair. I I would wonder though, because I I feel like he was like, Why? What does that mean? People are expecting if you collect Legos that you're, you know, like playing dollhouse with them all the time is that like, maybe that's a misconception? I don't think that's the case. I'm sure there probably are people, adults who do kind of play dollhouse with them. I don't I kind of wish I could, because I missed that. From my childhood. I remember as a child, when I had my wild west town built, they used to have all kinds of adventures, but it is weird how as an adult, I think you lose that kind of aspect of your imagination. Where I can't I would not even if I try it, I probably would not be able to get any joy out of just kind of like, you know, moving my little mini figures around and having them pretend to talk to each other and go on a mission. But maybe there are people adults who who do that. And I don't think there's anything wrong with that, but I think it's pretty rare. So I, I kind of wouldn't think people would have that misconception just because it doesn't seem like something adults generally do. But maybe there is that childhood aspect or the childishness aspect of it. I do know you know, when I go to legal events, there are a lot of choices. There, and you can't go to like legal and without a child. So there is kind of a weird mix of, there's adult fans of Lego. And there's Lego activities for adults. And then there's legal activities for children. And then there's kind of a little overlapping area where you know, they go makes a lot of movies and a lot of video games. And they certainly have jokes and things in there for adults, and adults are a big customer base. So you know, Legos aware of that adult fan base as well. And they purposely seem to care a lot of their products to children as well as,
as well as adults. I was watching this documentary or this show, um, you might have heard of it. The toys that made us on Netflix.
Oh, yeah. Like that.
Yeah, they talk about like toys like that. I think they had a Lego episode. And I was just watching before this a My Little Pony episode, who were they talking about that and they're talking about how 20 year old men were into my little pony and there's nothing wrong with that. So that's the idea that I'm thankful that we live in a day and age where there's so much information out there
things that might have been Weird, let's say 40 years ago or 30 years ago or like, Oh, well, this is the norm now on the people people do this. It's normal. It's nothing. There's nothing wrong with that. There's nobody weird. It's, it's a hobby, you're not hurting anybody.
yet. I think for the most part now, it seems like people are just kind of free to do what they like. And if they are, if you saw something you liked him personally, he just kind of ignore it. You know, I certainly see like, from older generations, it seems to be a lot more like, Well, why would he do that? Or why would she do that? You know, and I don't hear it so much. From younger generations, I think we've been moving away from that kind of idea of people should kind of all behave the same more or less. And now it's just like,
you know, hey, do what you want to do. And maybe because of this podcast right now, people will be like, Oh, well, I want to do that. Yeah, maybe you don't listen to you talk. You like damn, okay. claybourne I want to I want to do that missing out. Yeah, you guys are missing out. We're having so much fun right now. You should be jealous. But yes. Do you want to present this hobby to the world or use it more as an escape from reality because I know you do YouTube videos, but I feel like also there's a side of you where you just like you do it for yourself as well. Right?
Yeah, I mean, it really started is more for myself. I think I still kind of think it is like that in a way but because the part that I'm showing to the world is more, I'm aware of that relationship with the audience where it's more like I want to talk about this to other people who are Lego fans, or I want to talk about this, this thing that's unique to the legal community. And then also we talked we talked about some maybe general kind of issues in the world and just kind of relate them to legal I know, Randy did a episode once on economics basically, and was just noting how funny it was that the Lego City has like a lot of jobs in construction, and a lot of jobs and police and for some reason have a problem of burglar with burglars because there's a lot of burgers. And so there seems to be a lot of kind of jobs missing in the Lego economy. I mean, you know, there's no, there's no insurance providers, things like that. So, you know, there's not there's no tax man going around. So it's like where where are these kind of everyday folks that you just get a lot of doctors, police officers and construction workers? And of course, a lot of space people.
That is that is a pretty interesting town to live in God the standards are really high there.
Yeah. Yeah. So uh, so yeah, like I was saying, like, it sort of changes how I go about talking about Legos. And but I'm aware that relationship and so I haven't kind of separate I would say, where I want to more entertain, with the YouTube channel and kind of maybe inform or, you know, kind of collaborate with other Lego fans or, you know, connect with them in some way. But then my own kind of Lego set my own Lego pieces that I have my lego sets that I build, that's a lot more kind of a personal experience that, you know, sit alone, and I put a Lego set together. And then maybe after that I talked about it or maybe I go into it, knowing that I'm going to film it and talk about it, but there's a lot that I put together that doesn't actually go on the YouTube channel.
I like that I like how you
have a, I would say a perfect balance between both of them and you're enjoying it. And while you're enjoying it, you let other people enjoy it as well watching you, and hopefully they get inspired to do it as well. Yeah. Do you have any word of advice for anybody who might be interested in picking up this hobby,
you know, just just go out and buy a buy a little set. Like if you if you think this might be of interest to you, they have basically what are called starter sets. You don't have to literally buy one that's called the starter set. But those are good, good places to start. Like I said, the one that I got started with was just a small like five or $1 set something like that. So you know, go and find a little set from a theme that looks interesting to you. If you like pirates, then you know buy a little pirate set. If you know these aliens that called you you can buy an alien set, whatever it might be, and then just just try it out. Basically just you know, get the instruction booklet and and see how that see how that goes. I will say though, if I remember once, there's this board game called creationary, which is from Lego. And it's basically like Pictionary. But you build with Legos instead of draw. And I played that one year with my grandma and my mom and my sister. And I think maybe a couple other people. And what I had noticed was that my mom and my grandma could not put Legos together. And that was the most bizarre thing to me. Because like, they knew that I liked Legos, they bought me Legos all my life. And then to think that like, they've lived, you know, 50 and 70 years of their life, never once putting a Lego together seemed strange to me. But then more strange was just the fact that they couldn't actually do it. Like they couldn't succeed at putting the Lego pieces together to this seems so intuitive to me. And I would think that would be intuitive to others. And I think it's generally a pretty good design that probably is intuitive. But yeah, there are people out there who, who really don't know what you're supposed to do with these pieces. If you were to hand them to them. They they don't know what they're supposed to do. And like my mom was putting them on backwards, trying to get them to stop can connect and my grandma was thought they were like magnets basically she was just like touching them and wondering why they weren't sticking together. So I thought that was that was pretty interesting and a bit funny.
You know exactly what I'm going to do now. Well not now but later I'm just gonna go get that Lego box and just put in front of my parents and just open the lid and just see what they do.
Yeah, I think that would that would be a good YouTube video if you could somehow find people who for whatever reason don't wouldn't know how to put it together like I'm sure if you just got a pool of random 100 people that some some some of those people wouldn't be able to do it and that would be pretty interesting. And I would like to like ask them afterwards like what was going through your mind you know how to have How did you think it was going to go together? What were you thinking of this? It's it's certainly interesting
with legals been around for a long time, but I guess yeah, if you've never been introduced to it, so it's
impossible to not have heard of Lego I would say and like I said, they in particular, I know that they've purchased Legos, for me so they were aware of what these are. They just you know, obviously A kid they never played with me with the Legos. They didn't really know what the Legos were perhaps beyond just some kind of toy. And so they knew I liked them. They were buying me these things. And then whenever we played that epic night like my sister, you know, she had no problem with it. But she probably had experience with Legos when she was little, and I'm pretty sure the other people playing like even though they weren't Lego fans, they got the premise pretty quickly. But yeah, my mom and my grandma and particularly, they struggled with just putting together even after kind of showing them how to do it. They still weren't correct, quite understanding, and then, you know, a different size piece would come in and throw them off entirely.
I don't know why, but in my mind, I felt like the only experience your mom had with Legos was stepping on them when you left them on the ground. Yeah. But yes, I mentioned this at the beginning, but do you have any social media links or websites that you would like to share again, so people can learn more about you and follow you?
Yeah, so I'm on Twitter myself. firstname.lastname@example.org slash claybourne. And my youtube channel that I do with my friend Randy is walkie talkie. You can find us on youtube. com walkie talkie as well as block a talkie on pretty much any other social network in a blocky talkie IE like walkie talkie, but Legos.
Perfect. I'll put that in the description below so people can find it and learn more about you go watch your YouTube videos and Instagram, Twitter, everything related to social media. Now for the last question, it's worth it. You know what, I feel pretty confident about this one. Do you have any questions for me about Legos or collecting Legos?
Well, I'm kind of curious about your collection or if you have one you mentioned you played with Legos. Do you still have some of those? I still
have the box and my parents basement. And every now and then I take it out when we have younger kids come over and yeah, they just bring it out. And I'm like, Oh, cool. Did I actually have this piece? I like the crocodile, the palm tree I remember that. Oh, yeah. Great. I
says I like pirates a lot. I had a lot of the palm tree ones and the monkey. Yeah, monkey piece was like the the gold mine for me. If I ever had a monkey it was just like The most special piece having a monkey
I never I don't think I've ever had the monkey I saw it I had the grape heritage I remember that Oh yeah. So I must I one point must have had the pirate set. But yeah there was so many collections I used to collect that and then the box is just full of decapitated Lego heads at the bottom just settling there but yeah, booze love like building the pieces. Like I said the alien one was one that I really remember but I used to have like the I would say I would call them neutral sets where Yeah, didn't necessarily like be like Hollywood like Hollywood theme. I mean, like Harry Potter theme. I didn't have any of those. It was more like a house car.
Yeah. Yeah, I think I think those are kind of called creator now or, yeah, creator probably. There's a lot of creator sets and they're basically just like a house or a tree house and they're regular people. And then of course the Lego City ones are kind of regular generic stuff, except that there's a lot of space and police in that as well. Did you have any like non Lego toys that you collect? as well and if so, did they play together? like would you be able to mix your Legos with like your Hot Wheels or your ninja turtle action figures or something? Oh, you know what I would do
actually? Yeah, I used to like build like, layers and castles and stuff like that for my other toys. Yeah. Because you didn't you didn't get like sets for like the Ninja Turtles or was it the the sharks and on rollerblades or the radioactive mice?
Yeah, I didn't. I had a lot of Max my favorite action figures randomly. I for some reason was the I don't know if you remember the Super Mario Brothers movie? Oh, my God. Yes.
had, I had pretty much every one of those action figures, which is a weird action figure to have because it's literally Bob Hoskins in like a red and a red suit. You know, and Dennis Hopper is just, you know, Dennis Hopper with his weird hairdo and an astute with some general some military badges on it. And so it was a very odd ones to have, but I remember those being some of my favorites and then I had quite a few like Ninja Turtles and some other more typical typical things as well.
I also remember making like a Mario course and just I didn't film it I just had the little Lego man run through it at the blocks and everything yeah, I was I had a lot of free time as a kid and I have a lot of free time now if I have a podcast but yes,
I can get into legal collecting.
Yeah, well actually my wife when she came back from Japan was Korea. She bought me a set of nano blocks. And I'm into anime so she she got one from us for sauce k Naruto from the anime show called Naruto. Yeah, and those were one of the most frustrating things that I've ever felt. They're so small and so fragile. We just kept on falling apart,
go to go to go to my channel. My I think the one I did last week. So I recently got back from Japan from my honeymoon, honeymoon. And then we went to recently we did a anniversary trip to Seattle. And while we were there, there was a little Japanese store and we went to it was called dice. Oh, and they have this like a dice was basically like, I don't know, like a Walmart brand or something where it's just like everything in the store is this brand dice Oh, and they sell everything from like these little toys to kitchen appliances and everything in between. and I saw a little Lego kind of thing of an owl and it was like $1 $1 25 or something. So I thought, you know, this is a something good for the channel. Normally, I wouldn't buy off brand Lego type things. But I figured I maybe I should just buy it and review it and check it out and see what it's actually like. And it was so frustrating. It wasn't the nano. But it was it was small. It was micro they call them petite blocks,
nice oh brand petite blocks, and this one was an hour and that that experience was so fresh, like I just filmed myself putting it together because I didn't know how I was going to go. I didn't know anything about it. I just put up basically two cameras and just decided I was going to film role and whatever happens happens and I was doing And just it's like five minutes of me just just frustrated trying to get this thing together and I mean at the end Yeah, it looks kind of fine. I mean it looks like an owl but it's just the instructions are terrible and the design is just flimsy like I was saying Legos very sturdy. This had literally had hollow space in the middle so like, you know, one little move wrong move and and the whole thing kind of collapses. So it was just so painful to put together but i think you know, I made a good video and it was a good good experience to actually check out you know, non non Lego building blocks.
At one point when I was building that the Naruto thing I just want to get like a giant spray can glue and just glue the whole thing down. Yeah, like as I was building it, and
you know, you know how many pieces it was,
I think it was 200 and some knows more than that. It was 500 and something okay, yeah, this this thing was tiny. It was tiny. It was a little thing and I don't think I could have handled you know, more than 200 pieces. This was maybe like 3030 pieces or Something it was it was frustrating. I'll take a picture of it and I'll show I'll send it to you by email so you could see and I'll share with the people listening before we post the episode so you guys can get to take a look at what I made. And hopefully I'm not too much of a disgrace when it comes to Lego building. But so yeah, there you have it, another body with the hobby. Thank you so much claybourne for coming on and just sharing my passion and your passion or like an astrology passion we've never met, but I feel like we have a Lego connection. Pun intended.
Yeah, thanks for having me.
So yeah, if you want to learn more about claybourne you can go check them out on Instagram. I was gonna say Facebook manola. youtube. I was gonna say LinkedIn, not LinkedIn, Twitter, and Tumblr and pretty much anywhere else. I'll put all the link in the description below. And of course, if you'd like to be on my podcast or have any questions at all, you could send me an email at Tom if your hobby at gmail. com. And of course, if you think this episode's gonna be helpful for anybody, by all means, share with them because building Legos can be fun relaxing, and you can actually gives you the right or not the right but allows you to be creative. Just create whatever your little heart or big heart desires. So once again, thank you so much claybourne Yeah, thanks. So Until the next episode, make some time for your hobby. Take care