Kelan Kline FINAL
2:12PM Dec 18, 2019
work from home, have complete freedom to travel when we wanted to have unlimited ability to make income 24 seven passively. And really, we knew that if we wanted the freedom that we actually wanted and what I like to look like, we needed ultimate freedom by having an online business,
Hey guys, it's Mike from Make Time Online. Today, we're joined by Kelan Klein from The Savvy Couple
Kelan actually sat down to figure out what they wanted for the rest of their life. They were his goals this time, just over three years ago. It was in July 2016. They were thinking about some of these things. They have not started an online blog before And this was just all the reason which set them forward to deciding that they were going to do an online blob. Believe it or not, this time when we're recording in the end of 2019. They have achieved all of their goals, and more. It's absolutely incredible. This is another great story of just a normal guy who has figured this stuff out. While a normal guy and his wife who have kind of figured it all out, they have no background in technology or techie skills, or advertising or anything like that he was a policeman. And you're actually going to find out a little bit more about that in just a second. As always, if you just want to hear the key takeaways in the summary, you can skip to the last sort of five minutes or so. And I'll give you the five main takeaways that I've taken from the podcast and hopefully I'll help you. But anyway, let's not hang around this dive straight in I have one question which I really want to know the answer to is when you were a jail deputy. And that day, were you decided that you were going to quit? I just want to know like, how did you come up with deciding that you're just going to leave all those benefits and that pension behind what made you decide you were going to quit?
Obviously, was a really tough decision, especially having a union job like that. We had a pension lined up. We had good health insurance. Yeah, it was tough. I kind of bounced around to a bunch of different jobs out of college. I tried insurance, sales, I tried ups, driving, tried drop shipping, and just a bunch of different things finally landed. What I thought was my dream job as a jail deputy. And quickly found out that I didn't want to be in law enforcement, the hours and the stressful environment, just not the family guy. I want to be the family, the husband, the dad. So yeah, we kind of eliminated Much of the burden of leaving a job like that, by starting to pay off our debt, make sure we have a good budget and that we could take such a big pay cut. So I quit that job and I went to a local job as an office manager for our local college here and really lost half my my income or even more, went from making $26 an hour down to 13. Which was a big guy. There was a big internal battle with me too, as far as losing my identity and who I was.
Yeah, so what was that job? You started doing?
The one that I took after the jail?
Yeah, I was just a we have a local Christian college here and I was just an office manager. So I was doing paperwork, accounting stuff like that part time. And I knew that I needed to start my own business and do my own thing. I was sick and tired of having someone else tell me when I need to work, how much money I'm gonna make and just kind of dictate my life. Yeah, no, definitely. I needed the Freedom.
Well, yeah, I think that's such a common thing that we're kind of here when I'm having chats with different people doing this kind of thing. And it just seems like such a similar thing. But equally, there's so many people and probably someone that might even be listening to this right now. Who's thinking? Yeah, we're on the same night. That's kind of how I'm feeling. So how did you go from that point, feeling like you've just kind of had enough you want more freedom, more control to where you are? Now, not obviously, is a big thing that's happened in between, right? What was your first
step? Yeah, it was a it's a long journey. And it does. It definitely doesn't happen overnight. And a lot of times, I think people get caught up in seeing the success stories and them thinking it happened overnight. But there's a lot of hard work that went into it. And it was a long, you know, three, four year journey. But yeah, basically me and my wife, we sat down, she's a teacher. So we kind of sat down and we were working opposite shifts, never getting to see each other in kind of just like We're at this point in our life, we're like, Okay, what is going on? This is not what we had planned. We never get to see each other. Just our marriage wasn't the greatest because we never got to see each other. And we were just, I wasn't happy working in law enforcement. So we kind of sat down at the table and said, Okay, what are we going to do to change things? What are we going to have our life look like three years from now five years from now. And we both agree that we want more time together and we want more freedom with our with our time and money. So we kind of came up with a plan where I was going to start a business and the first business I was going to start was a home inspection business after a real estate deal was done kind of inspecting the home to make sure it's top quality. And I had everything lined up to start that and then we kind of got at that pivot point of we also had our blog at the time because we were inspired by other people blogging and making money online and we kind of came to the fork in the road. Okay, now do we go down the Home Inspection business path or the online business path, and luckily, we pick Diamond business path. And kind of I think the initial step to making this all happen was sitting down and really writing out what we want our life to look like.
on it that's a really good point actually. Because I think that's quite often almost like an oversight with a lot of people will just kind of this is the job that I'm doing. This is who I am. Robin and that's the ever taking the time to think, what do I want my life to look like?
what did you guys come up with? Like, what did you want your life to look like?
Long term we did write down and we both wanted to work from home, have complete freedom to travel when we wanted have unlimited ability to make income 24 seven passively. And really this blogging thing and e commerce we have a Shopify store now. We knew that if we wanted the freedom that we actually wanted and what I like to look like we needed ultimate freedom by having an online business and just being home with our kids. We have one daughter now and we plan on having more kids and just being there for them and you know, spending life doing the things that we want to do and that brings us happiness and not being tied to regular nine to five jobs.
Yeah, definitely. So was Was that your first business move then? When you started the savvy couple, was that your first online business or did you already have a another blog or something before that?
This was definitely our first blog. But I have been selling stuff on eBay and Amazon since I was like 13. So I've always I've always had this age of being an entrepreneur and making money online. But this is definitely our first time doing a blog.
I've actually seen the last any like your About Me page or whatever, where you said, was it you were doing things on Amazon? Was it like Amazon FBA? Or was it just something a bit different? Yeah,
yeah, I was doing Amazon FBA. I just had a little shop that was selling a bunch of different stuff that I was getting dropped shipped. And that kind of happened because my parents I was 13 years old my dad showed me how to sell something on eBay I became addicted to it because it was awesome. And I kind of sold everything in the house that I possibly could and then I ran out of stuff to sell so I started to look for products online that I could drop ship and do that so I did that all through college and it was pretty profitable at the time as a side hustle.
So you went down the whole drop ship is from what I understand I don't know I've never really done it myself but drop shipping is that where you're like the middleman and Amazon FBA is more like UFC get store and like buy stock. That kind of right. Cool.
Yeah, Amazon FBA basically the same thing as a drop shipping. You're the middleman you're you're but you have to with drop shipping, you don't have to put up the upfront costs, like I don't have to buy 100 products of XYZ. I can just list them and then if someone buys it, I order it from my supplier and then they ship it to them. With FBA, you need to actually put the cost up front and buy a certain amount of products, send them to Amazon and they're ready to sell at the Amazon warehouse was to ship out.
Go, yeah, koza you went down the drop shipping route where you didn't have to stock things. And you just,
I'm just less risk. Yeah, I did. I did try a couple products with FBA. And a couple of them were pretty hot, they sold pretty fast. They were just like, smaller items. So they weren't making a tonne of money, but it's so competitive. Yeah, I kind of didn't want to go down that route anymore.
No, I can imagine. But um, so obviously, that's you saying like that was quite profitable when you're thinking of starting an online business. Why didn't you build that or scale that what made you think now i'm gonna i'm going to start a blog?
Well, the question I actually did so between my job with ups and that being coming a jail deputy, I had about three to four months where I was basically unemployed, I quit my, my ups job knowing that I had a pretty good chance of getting hired by the jail. And I kind of wanted before I started the jail to give this entrepreneur thing a full try. So I did, I worked on the Amazon business for about three months full time. And I was making about $100 a day profit on but it turned out that I was selling yoga mats and one of my suppliers totally failed on me. I sold like 100 or something over a weekend on near Black Friday and the supplier ran out of stock. So I had to refund all those orders in my account actually got suspended because I had so many refunds
what so you make you understand that so you sold all of these things, but you couldn't get them from the supplier
So yeah, so you have to personally refund them.
Ah, well, I mean, I would just give them the money back to Amazon. So I didn't lose any money. I just lost my privilege to sell on Amazon essentially, because of this, this one supplier.
Right. So all of a sudden, you've basically lost your whole business.
Right? You know? So I mean, I could still sell on eBay. And I was doing that. But I just I mean, I know that e commerce, it's it's tough business model. There's low profit margins. And luckily, I mean, we I could have probably made that a full time business as well. But our blogs taken off so well that I'm happy that that didn't work out, actually. Yeah.
Yeah. Can we maybe a little bit about how your books doing? Because obviously it has done is it about three years that you've had it? Had it? No.
Yeah, we started July 2016. So we're about Yeah, a little bit over three years now. And yeah, the first nine months, we kind of just grind it away on it and I was still working as a office manager part time and then Coming home and working on this night and day with my wife, Brittany. And that that nine month mark, we we got a sponsorship offer for $100 to put an article on our site at four company and I actually talked them down to $50 for some reason, because I felt bad because we are so small at the time.
Like such a weird thing to do. Notice too much
money, they give you that,
right? So yeah, that that kind of triggered the spark within both of us that we could make money online, doing this content marketing and blogging. So a couple weeks later, I went to Brittany and I said I want to quit and do this full time, we had a good chunk of change saved up so that I could potentially not have to make money for a good six to seven months to kind of reduce the risk of quitting altogether and doing entrepreneurship full time. So we did that. Grind it away on it for the next two years and we're we're at multiple six figures now.
Multiple six, multiple six figures a year.
Yep, that's amazing. And it. So obviously even there from after nine months to get into where you are today, it doesn't just, it doesn't just happen, I'm guessing like to go from making or talking someone down from giving you $100 to then making hundreds of thousands of dollars in a year. So well, first of all, actually, I'd love to know more about what actually happened in those nine months if you can remember, because obviously, this probably seems like so long ago now.
for a lot of people, they're still maybe in those nine months or still maybe not seeing that first little bit of income. So what made What gave you the motivation to keep going when you were seeing nothing happening for nine months?
Yeah, it's tough year. It's like the first year of entrepreneurship and starting a business is just difficult. It is hard. It's a grind. I just knew in my head I kind of committed after I saw I saw two of our biggest like people that we look up to are Michelle from making sense of sense in Bobby white millennial money, man. And also rosemary, busy budgeter. But those three bloggers, they did income reports, and these people were making 10s of thousand dollars a month. And I was telling myself in my head, if I can make 2000 3000 $5,000 a month, I'd be more than happy. I could work from home, I could contribute financially to the family, I could be the stay at home dad. I knew I needed to work from home. So I'm very stubborn by nature. And I literally just told myself when we were starting this like I will make this happen. No matter how long it takes me, I'm committing to doing this I will learn and I will figure it out. So those first nine months, we kind of just kept reading these income reports of people totally changing their lives and making tonnes of money online and creating your dream life and just kept chugging away at it.
And I think Another thing is we picked a niche that
we are obsessed with personal finance. We love helping families create and make more time and money in their life and learn how to budget and pay off debt. Some we can talk about night and day. So we were just it was like a passion project. We just loved working on it together and like publishing an article and watching people interact with it and get good comments on it. So it's kind of just weird happy doing it for no money at the time. Hmm.
So what what sort of stuff will you post individually?
Yeah, originally, we were between two names we're between I'm trying to remember now is the savvy couple and living frugal and free. So we picked a savvy couple. It's more of like a brand that we can kind of build around, which was good, but we are posting a bunch of stuff on just frugality. My wife is super, super frugal. She's really good at saving money, and I'm good with the numbers and budgeting and investing. So we kind of have the yin and the yang Personal Finance stuff. But yeah, we were just posting stuff and how we, you know, manage our money well and save money and invest our money, just kind of basic personal finance stuff that we are sharing with other people, mostly our friends and family at the time. Yeah.
So then, obviously, you started doing that for nine months, you got your first taste of income. And how did you go from there to then obviously, you took six to seven months where we had six, seven months saved. So you knew you had that time to go all in basically a full time? Was it just just you that went full time, I think, wasn't it?
Yes, correct. Yeah, Brittany actually didn't join me for time till this summer. She quit her teaching job. Amazing. I see. I just read your blog income report. It was like 40,000. And I think that was in like, may or something and you were saying she was just about to quit. So yeah, that must be amazing for you to now. Oh, man. It's a it's a huge blessing. We're very blessed. And we we We kind of were praying on it that, you know, we had it on our hearts that God was telling us this was the year that it was going to quit. And then he blessed us with a month of $40,000. And we're like, Okay, if that's not a sign, I don't know what it is.
That's crazy, because I think at the start, you're even saying it will be really slowed up month and you were thinking it was going to be going to be one of those struggles of a month. Yeah, one of those dips, and then you get that pop up.
Yeah. Pretty wild.
Also in that year, when you you were basically the stay at home dad.
Oh, yeah. So yeah, my daughter was born. Good. November, I'm sorry, August 2 2018. So for the first nine to 10 months of her life, I was the only one at home with her taking care of her. Being a stay at home dad and running our business. How has it been? That must have been different? It was quite the adventure. Luckily Brittany was able to get an extra month off of her So I it's definitely different here in the US. I think we have a lot less time than you guys get. But she, she stayed up until the end of October. So I had from October until the end of June with her. And yeah, it was a good experience we connected better than I would have ever imagined. And it's, she's a little angel shows it was good adventure. That's amazing.
So yeah, so how did you then go from? What sort of things were you doing that in that first six to seven months where you were like, right? I've got to try and make this work. And I've got a time frame of only got six or seven months? How did you? What were you doing to sort of try and grow it and make that income grow a little bit?
Yeah. So a bunch of different things. We we made sure that we were we sat down we made sure that we understood who we are actually trying to serve. So it's it's kind of strange because we both run the blog full time. But we have a certain avatar, a certain ideal reader that we are trying to serve. Because if you're trying to serve everyone, you're not serving anyone. So we sat down and really honed in who exactly we want to come to our blog and help serve, which helped us pick out which type of content to create, what type of affiliate programmes to be a part of the monetization strategy, everything from the top down. And we're really focused on our specialties. So I read a book. And I definitely want to make sure I mentioned this in the podcast here. I read a book work less make more by James shucker. Know or Chicago, and it completely changed my life. That book alone probably propelled us to this type of level. Just getting super, super focused on using stuff like the Eisenhower chart and using your time effectively. Because time is our biggest enemy as business owners and in general, anybody. Time is the only thing that we can't get more of. So we made sure that we were Focusing on the stuff that was working, doubling down on income strategies that we were finding success in. And kind of just going from there.
Yeah. Now I can't agree more as well about the whole time thing. And big reason why it's called make time online, but I've never actually heard Well, I have heard of that book. But I haven't actually read that. And I've read a lot of books, but work less make more days going straight to the top of the list. Oh, yeah.
And it's a it's a quick read to I have ADHD. So it's, I'm terrible at reading. I just lose focus so quickly. And this book, I was hooked. I was like, up till three in the morning reading. It was just, I just loved it. It was so straightforward. And just perfect for us online business owners.
Yeah, no, I love those kind of books as well. Yeah, it's all ones that you can kind of go to over and over again. You read millionaire Fastlane
I have not. I've heard good things about it, though.
Yeah, that's a brilliant one. In fact, I've been writing it down right now. I spoke to about Alex nerney recently, and yeah, he That is his book. That's the one that got him started on this whole path. So it's absolutely brilliant. Mj DeMarco amazing book. But yeah, so what did you find? You said that you started like doubling down on what was working? What did you find was working then at that time?
Um, we had a couple things. So we've, we've done really well with ad revenue. So this year, I think we're going to be topping close to 60,000 and just display ads alone. So we really doubled down on making Pinterest type of articles and kind of breaking apart. Okay, this article is meant for Google, we want to rank on Google for it, which is a totally different article then. Okay, this article is meant to rank on Pinterest and appeal to that audience. So breaking you know, social articles versus core content, SEO articles up, helped us out a lot and we focused on creating those roundup posts that do really well. on Pinterest, to help drive ads, ad revenue and then we focused on our email list. I think that's one thing that a lot of bloggers fail to do when they start out. We didn't focus on it for the first year, which is a big mistake, because that's if you look around any blogger, that's absolutely killing online has a massive email list. And their fans are just diehard fans and they want to buy from them. They want they trust them. And they've just built that relationship over the years. So number one thing is, you definitely want to focus on your email list. And we started to do that, which helped us grow our affiliate income. And then the thing that we've found a tonne of success, and that's a little different than a lot of other bloggers is sponsorships. We do we do a tonne of different sponsorships with some companies that we really like and enjoy and use ourselves and we kind of approach it differently than most A lot of people will reach out to these companies and just offer one blog post and they'll call it a day and they might get a few hundred dollars or maybe 1000 where I approach these companies and I want to like do a entire partnership with them, I want to put together a marketing campaign, which means it could be I bundle everything together. It could be three blog posts, Facebook ads, social media amplification, maybe email marketing, placement within the homepage, just a bunch of different things that we can throw together to really squeeze that partnership and sponsorship for as much money as possible. So that's, that's the main thing that has really made us propelled so much this year. Yeah, no.
secret that one the income report, I think it was, it was pretty much the majority of the income of that 40,000 was Yeah, wants to ship. So is that do you say to kind of like set a timeframe for when you're going to do all of those things for them? Or like how does how does that actually like the logistics work for doing that?
Yeah, so spot sponsorships along the This year is about 50% of our income, which is significant. That's huge. And we, if we're ever doing like multiple blog posts like this month, we I reached out to a company and we're doing to holiday type of sponsorships sponsored blog posts with Facebook ads. And we'll make sure that we post one November and one in December. So kind of break them apart. And give them both ample time to kind of take off on Pinterest and on the Facebook ads. But yeah, anytime we do multiple blog posts, we'll make sure we space them out. So we're not just killing our readers with stuff. But another thing we do is we barely ever mentioned our new articles within our email list. We don't use our email list for that, to kind of promote our new blog posts. We use it to build a relationship with them. Just like we're sending an email to a best friend and just building that trust and then sending them solutions to the problems in their life.
Yeah, so it's completely it's almost like a whole separate and So someone right on your email list isn't just going to be getting links to go and check out on your blog. And because they can do what they want. It's actually like building. It's like having a chat, I guess.
Exactly. And I think I think I know the first like, first year, we had our email list, that was a big thing that we kept running into, like, we felt pressured that we had to publish a post and then send it to our email list like it was a must. And it's good to have consistency like that. But I think if you if like you said, If you break up the two things, your blog is its own identity. And your email list is something totally different. You don't need to use your email list to drive traffic. It's that that's really not what it's there for. It's for building those relationships, those true relationships, answering emails back and forth, talking to them make like asking them a question so that they respond and you can hear from your audience and then finding solutions to those problems that they're having in their life. Whether it's an affiliate programme that you'd like to Promote, or it's your own product or service that you promote. That's kind of what we do. Yeah.
And then obviously, you've you've kind of also got your, your course for is it called blogger secrets? Again, correct? Yep. And so when did you actually create that? Because obviously you've had, what three years that you've been doing it for. But when did you actually create the blogger secrets course.
We created that last year. And we we both said to each other, like we want to make sure that we are enough about it. We have enough in like knowledge and experience with blogging that we can create a course and teach others. So we actually waited until we made six figures with our blog. Yeah, and that's it seems like a really good idea. In fact, that could have been, yeah, it could have been a little bit of imposter syndrome. Like we can't create a course until we make this much like we probably got to create a lot sooner but we felt that was a good point, to kind of go in that direction.
So yeah. And do you find
that your email list? Obviously you have a lot of people that you build up relationships with and things have, have those people have then taken the course? Have they kind of like got back to me now. Thanks very much. You know, we've learned everything we need to know about blogging and tavolo. How is it? How is that going?
Yeah, absolutely. So we have, we have a couple opt ins, they're specifically designed for bloggers secrets. So we get people on our email list. And then we'll have a sales funnel basically, where we have emails that go out automatically and kind of build that relationship. And it's still super genuine and honest. And we kind of build it and then we pitch them our course blogger secrets, and we're not pushy about it. If you don't want to take and it's not for you, that's fine, and we just keep you on our email list and continue to provide value and continue to try to help you on your blogging journey. But um, but yeah, we kind of created the course, after we gained all this experience and knowledge and We really got some good mentorship with people like Bobby boy and Sarah Titus that kind of taught us the ropes of this blogging thing and kind of watched along as they were building their business and kind of implemented and put all the stuff that we've learned into a course called blogger secrets.
Really? Yeah. No, it's I've what I've heard really good things about it as well. I haven't actually personally taken it but we'll have to get you an access code so you can take it also though, is it does sound fun. Yeah, I just was kind of looking at the sales page and stuff the other day and it's just you can tell by you, you know, when you look at some some other people sales pacing, and I'm not really sure what it's going to be in there, but I thought it was just so thorough, that it just made you realise this is exactly exactly what I'm going to learn and you know exactly who it's for because you even say I think on there as well. It's not for everyone, like there's these people that it's just not suitable. Right, yeah, someone who hasn't started a blog or hasn't even made any articles or anything yet, which is just so honest, because some people just like yeah, this is for everyone, you know?
Yeah, we definitely want to make sure the right people are getting in because I don't want people coming in that aren't ready to dive in and really do this full time to kind of figure this blogging thing out with us. We have a community, a Facebook group that we're in all the time, you know, on a daily basis, helping our students kind of grow their blog, so we want to make sure we're building the right community and serving the right people with our course for sure. We're doing
Yeah. And and have you found there's been like any specific like tools or tricks or something online, which you just can't live without, like anything that isn't, you know, one of the normal ones, you know, like ConvertKit for email, or is there anything that you found has been really helpful to you guys?
A good question. I'm definitely tell when I'm sure People tell you that all the time though, for Pinterest definitely want to have a scheduler for that. We we use keyword finder for seo keyword research and watching our rankings. It's kind of the it's not free. It's I think it's $25 a month but it's not like a traps. That's $100 a month. So it's a nice in between and it's a really useful tool that we found helpful with our SEO. Cool. Yeah, that's, that's really
good. And I know you guys oh, let you say sorry on
that before we move on. I want to make sure I mentioned I also use this has been huge for us, we use a company service called ad espresso. And it's basically a platform software that helps us run our Facebook ads. So we run Facebook ads quite often, to either really good blog posts or a good opt in to try to grow our email list and add espressos Just so much better than the Facebook ad manager helps us create an entire campaign with 50 different variations of the ad within like 10 minutes compared to taken hours on Facebook manager. What? Yeah, how does it do that? What What is this? I've never even heard this. It's It's amazing. And it's pretty reasonable priced. We usually buy the annual subscription and it's like, I think it's under $300 for the entire year. Yeah, it's ad espresso. And you basically just put in, you can put in like five headlines, five different pictures, five descriptions, everything like that. You can test multiple different What is it called? multiple different audiences. So if you're targeting like a look alike audience with your email list or a Dave Ramsey, you can target all of those and test all those variations all put together and they'll optimise for the best ad. It's pretty wild. That's amazing
is that I know Bobby hoyts big into his Facebook ads.
Yeah. Yeah. Now we've we've taken his course though it's in phenomenal course. Now I think I don't I mean, I haven't really heard of any other blogger using this tool. Everyone else just uses the Facebook manager, but for $300 it's saved me with one campaign. It saved me hours. So it's worth every penny to me.
Yeah, I can't believe I've never heard of that, to be honest. Because it's just so good. Yeah, definitely made a note of that one star in that for sure.
what would you say that I've asked this question wrong before because I've said I've asked some people you know, what's a normal day look like look like for you now? And you always get the same sort of thing. I'm not really interested in that with this question. I want to know, what are some of like the best things that has happened to you guys? Since starting your blog? A lot was glad the best days looks like for you guys.
Sure. So getting this getting specific. Okay. See, I think the best thing is me and Brittany get to choose how our day looks. We she's a night owl, so she likes to work at night. I like to work early in the morning. So I wake up between five and six almost every day. Do my little morning routine. Get to work before they wake up. Because I like feeling accomplished before anyone else is up. I don't know why that's just weird. But I think the best thing is like we can go and take a field trip with Cali, we can go out to breakfast. We like to go to that we have a local gym real close by that will bring the entire family over just middle of the day on a Wednesday and just go workout, get get some exercise. Just kind of plan out our day the way we want and not be tied to a job that we have to make sure we're going to bed early and getting up to go to the big thing that Brittany's mentioned is not having those Sunday night blues where, you know, this weekend is winding down and you're like, man, I got a whole week of work ahead of me. It's not you know, neither of us have been anymore. We're like excited for Monday morning because we're going to crush the week and you know, help serve our audience and grow our business. So it's exciting.
So yeah, that's the biggest thing. I'm sure teachers get the worst Sunday night blues. So my wife
This is my first year it not eating, but oh my god is that I don't know what it is. I'm sure it's different and other jobs but as current and you say for sure that
teachers get it.
I forgot. I forgot that you were a teacher. I didn't know your wife was too. That's awesome. Yeah,
yeah, that's actually why we're in Qatar. So we moved here doing lots of international teaching, basically, so Okay. But yeah, no, I definitely, definitely get what Brittany saying there.
Yeah, must be a big one. You guys have you guys have a tough job for sure. You guys have to be on at all times.
Yeah, I think she's different. You know, that. Yeah. Everyone says, you know, while the teachers guild a holiday and blah blah, but it's just different, isn't it? I always say to people if if you want to be a teacher, be a teacher or if you don't want to be a teacher, you're not really stuck to it as you right proven more than anyone else ever really stuck doing one thing, whereas, yeah, sometimes people the grass is always greener, isn't it?
Right. And I think people always like just view teachers because they get so much time off. It's like a piece of cake job but they don't realise you guys are putting in 1214 hour days like Monday through Friday.
And then lesson planning on the weekend.
Yeah, yeah. Now you guys deserve every minute you get offered a
Right. So I'm going to try and choose a day to go back to probably it probably would be that just before so whilst you're working as a gel deputy, by the way, how was that? That must have been that must have been tough. brutal.
Yeah. I love the Academy. The Academy was three months long. I just love learning. And we are getting paid to like, do PT so like run around shoot guns like it was awesome. The Academy and then the first year wasn't too bad. But then that second year you're just in that environment around those type of individuals for it just weighs on you and you're basically doing time with inmates. So yeah, it hit me like a tonne of bricks. I fell into a huge deep depression, something I've never experienced before.
Yes, it's brutal.
It must be Yeah, like you say I said never thought of it like that. You are basically doing time with them. You're in. So Oh, yeah, guys. Yeah, that must be such a tough job. Well, let's go back to had you. When did you decide you were going to quit? Was it like before the day that you just handed it in? Or did you just go for a lunch break and not come back?
No, it was a long process. There's a lot of hoops that you have to jump through to actually leave From the county job, so I was just talking to my wife a bunch and she knew I was like miserable. I was just in a weird weird spot like I didn't, I just isn't a black hole. And we're like, all right, something's got to change. So it's kind of planning my my exit. And just going through the motions, make sure I was looking up all the paperwork that needed to be done. And there was a time where I was working on Midnight's, and I was, I mean, I was making decent money I was making 25 $26 an hour, and it would, it would have gone up to over 30 by the time I you know, put a couple more years in good pension. I was sitting at the desk, Midnight's and I was trying to convince myself that I could do this for 20 more years, like telling myself that 20 years isn't that long I can do this. And then I went home that night, and I was like, What am I thinking I have to leave so yeah, we just kind of put the plan in place and slowly made it happen. I think after I turned my notice and it was Still, Okay, good, good month process where I had just jumped through all the hoops turn in my equipment. Talk to all the upper sergeants and lieutenants and all that stuff is, is hard. It was a brotherhood that I had to leave and it was difficult.
We just quickly I think I read somewhere that as well. It's equal to hourly rate earnings or something.
Yeah, your effective hourly rate. So it's your EHR. And then
go ahead. What What is that now so you said it was like $26 an hour roughly. You don't need to be exact.
I can actually pull it up. I know, this month, you're killing it. We do like an average between me and Brittany. And we're $300 an hour, which is insane. But I have it I pulled up right here. So for the entire year. I take all the hours I worked divided by the revenue and it's $231 an hour. That's crazy.
It's bananas. Would you ever go
there was a jail deputy? No.
After work there for 10 years in a row, like 10 consecutive lifetimes in a row.
Yeah, well, but let's go back to that date. So when you that day when you came home and you were like, you were trying to talk yourself, you know, I've got 20 years left. It's not that long. If you could go back to that day. So you right now with everything, you know, if you could go back and see yourself that day, what would be three pieces of advice or something that you tell yourself?
That's a great question. I love this one. It's a great question. Um, the first thing I think, because I was in like a depression is realising and telling myself that your situation currently is temporary. Like you are not stuck there forever. You can always change your life, no matter what situation you're in, and it's all about perspective. So being able to kind of sit and meditate by yourself and be Are you can make a change in your life, you can do this. It's just temporary, you're going to get through it type of thing. So just kind of motivating myself that it's okay that I feel like this and pushing myself to make change. Two more things.
Haha, good question.
I'm going to try though. I think one of one of them would be that it's okay to have your plans fall apart. Like my entire life. I want to be a police officer, I got an offer to go to the road patrol and patrol roads like that's what I want to do my entire life. And I gave it up, which was probably the hardest one of the hardest decisions I've ever had to make is turning that down. So just, again, realising It's okay if your plans don't work out and everything's temporary and that you can make the change that you want to make.
That's a big one. They're
trying to think of a third here. That is such a good question. Maybe so far back now it's hard. It's so far back. Now, it's hard for me to
get myself in those shoes again. I think I should maybe change that to one question because then you will get like their best. You know, he's done some time thinking about and give them the one best, but twos pretty good.
Yeah, I think the other thing is like, it's okay to like, be different. Like, I think a lot of people put way too much emphasis on what other people's opinions are of them. And like, they're worried about, okay, I'm going I have to go tell my parents I'm quitting yet another job. Like, this is my six job. They've already told me like, they're worried about me jumping from job to job, and I have to go tell them again that I'm quitting. And just being okay with like, this is my life like they might be unhappy but with my decisions right now, but I'm gonna make them proud and prove them wrong that I'm doing the right thing. Same thing with friends. And family is you got to live your life. Life is now and you got to make yourself happy. You can't be making other people happy with your life. It's kind of your your thing to make yourself happy with.
Well, it's safe to say you have almost definitely made them very happy with with your decision. kailyn So, yeah, no, I don't think you need to worry about that one at all. Yeah, they're excited for us. So if if someone's listening to this and wants to just get in contact with you,
what would be the best way?
Um, we are on all social media platforms at the savvy couple. com. You can join our Facebook group blogging with purpose. And if you want to email us, I'll give you an email. It's savvy clines at gmail. com happy to help answer guide any people coming our way.
Amazing. Well, Kevin, thank you so much for your time. Really appreciate it. And I know we had a bit trouble getting itself at the start. That's been super helpful to me. And I hope as for a lot of people,
yeah, absolutely, Mike, appreciate it.
What a cool guy. Hey, just absolutely incredible story once again, of a completely normal person who has just done incredible things and is turned his whole life around is completely different way to how it looked this time four years ago. And it's just incredible what you can do in such a relatively short space of time for years is not a long space of time to completely change your life for the future. So these are my five key takeaways from my chat with Colin. Number one is to plan what you want your life to look like. And if you have ever listened to this podcast before or anything that I've ever said, this is the one thing that I think Everyone needs to do. So if you're in the car or jogging or at the gym, or shopping, wherever you are right now, even if you can't do it right there second, promise me promise yourself that when you get home, you're actually going to sit down and spend five minutes. It's not even long, five minutes thinking what your ideal day actually looks like. Because we work for what 50 years, given up five days for two days off, working 1214 hour days, whatever it is, to earn, what in the grand scheme of thing is peanuts. To do what why are we doing it for if we don't even know what we're actually aiming for? We were never going to hit it. So that is, number one. plan what you want your ideal day to look like. Number two, is I'm just going to still the name of his book that he said work less, make more Simply put, he's gone from earning $26 an hour to $300 an hour. It's as simple as that, find a way that you can do it. It might not be blogging, it might not be online marketing. It could be whatever it is. But whatever you do, in especially in today's world in today's financial situations and things like that, and everyone's feeling the pinch from all over the place, but find a way that you can work less and make more, it might just be a side hustle, it might be investment it you know, it could just be saving up more money so you can put it into an index fund, whatever it is, work less, make more. Number three. And this one is what these next three are actually things he would go back in time and say to himself, and you could actually almost hear him really thinking what did he What did I want to know on that day where I was just like, oh my god, 20 more years stuck in a jail. Calm imagine number three anyway is your situation is temporary. Put it in perspective, it doesn't matter what you are doing in life right now doesn't matter where you are in life, your situation is temporary. This is even true. Even if you are super successful. You know, in case Ilan Musk is listening in right now, a lawn, your situation is temporary. You're you're not going to be in the same situation right now no matter what. What you do today what you do tomorrow is going to change your situation. So it doesn't matter where you are in life, put it in perspective, even spoke about like meditating. And just take a deep breath and realise it is temporary. You can change where you are today. In fact, you are going to change it whether you like it or not. Number four, it's okay to have your plan fall apart and he was saying how he grew up. always wanting to be Officer he got there, he ended up in a jail and realised he didn't want to be a police officer. And so his childhood dream has gotten shattered around him. But he would go back in time and tell him so it's okay. It doesn't matter your plan, you is great to have a plan, because without a plan, you're not really getting anywhere. But you can always change it and it doesn't always have to go exactly to the plan. And finally, number five, is it's okay to be different. And if you've gone on any entrepreneurial path before, or thinking about it,
you probably already know exactly what it means because family, friends, people in general just think it's weird that they're not going to understand if you're going to be doing something that's completely different. And this is really a massive point of the podcast as well is just as Try and connect more people doing more like minded thing and just kind of prove this is this isn't completely weird isn't completely crazy. It is okay to be different is okay and yes, you might have a little bit of time where things are not working out or whatever. If you commit to something and keep on learning and you keep on doing things the best that you can. It's going to be okay in the end. I wish someone could tell me that right now. But anyway, I do hope you enjoyed it. I think he's super cool guy done amazing things. Good one. Take care. Thanks for listening in to this episode of meet time online. Be sure to subscribe to our podcast you don't miss any future episodes. And please take a moment to write a review for our podcast in the App Store. keep changing for the better guys. Take care