ThinkComputers Podcast #191
9:19PM Sep 11, 2019
What is up guys, welcome to the thing computers weekly tech podcast. This is Episode 191. And this episode is brought to you by Amazon. If you go to think computers.org forward slash Amazon and happened to purchase something that gives us a little kickback and keeps the podcast on going with me as my co host, Eric, what's up there? Oh, no
upgraded monitor was going on over here. So
Eric's having some computer. I've had computer problems this week too. And it's like, it's those things that make no sense. When you're like a computer person. You're like, Why? Why does this happen? And yeah, I've had issues this week, which we'll get into, and I'm sure you'll get into yours. But let's let's jump into reviews and talk about at least something that's good this week. Yeah. So for our review, this week, we took look at one of course, there's latest cases, it is their carbide series 678. See, and this is kind of their, I guess you would, you wouldn't call it a completely silent case. But I guess it's their take on a silent case. It's kind of a lot of people said, it's basically like a fractal design case. And I would have to agree, which is fine. I think that, you know, fractal design kind of has that market cornered when it comes to the silent case, we all know that. The Silent case kind of started with an attack, and they made some amazing, great silent cases. And you we all know what happened with an attack, we don't talk about them anymore. They don't really make that great of stuff anymore. And then you know, we have fact how design fan Tex has a really great silent case now to it looks like Coursera has one here in there. 678. See, so this is sort of on the bigger side of a mid tower. It has sound dampening material on the top, the front, in the opposite side panel, the main side panel is a big piece of tempered glass, you're not going to get the sound dampening there. That's why I said it's like it's not a full it's just not a full like silent case, just for the fact you have that tempered glass there because that's not going to help dampen the sound
better than steel or aluminum panel without dampening, though. True, very
true. Um, you know, this case is pretty good. It's, it kind of just fits in the middle because I feel there's better silent cases out there. And there's better like mid towers out there. And this kind of brought tries to bring both of these things together. It does great at sound dampening, like in my testing, like the system was completely silent. But when it comes to silent cases, we all know if you have sound dampening material on the front, no real intake because there's a big door here, the top the panel comes off, so you get some airflow. But without panel on, you get no air you get you don't get any airflow. So if you want the system to be silent, you don't get a lot of airflow. So it's kind of a mixed bag. For me. It has great storage options, it actually has a 5.25 inch drive bay, which is a little weird to see these days. But I think for somebody who's building this a lot of people who are like storage freaks, this is a great case for you. It does support a lot of three and a half inch drives as well as these. And the problem that I had with the SSD mount is that it's plastic. I just think for a case that's I forget how much it is. But this case launched a few hundred dollars. Yeah, it's like 180. Now, plastic SSD mounts, a plastic anything, basically. Yeah. So that was a little bit of a downfall for me. And then secondly, is that where the hard drives mounts? If you remove them, you're left with a big hole there. Where they would go. If you look, yeah, if you look at the inside of the case, they actually have covers on the to the that that aren't used, but they don't give you extra cover really. So say I only wanted to install two drives, I'm left with two big holes in my case, or just to each phase hanging out there. But once movable drive bay, if you can't, like cover it up. Yeah, so that was kind of like with the case this expensive. It just expected it to be there. Now building then this was easy. There's a ton of room, you do get three included fans that are connected to a fan hub, which supports a total of six fans, which is good. But again, for the price. I just feel like there's some things off with this case, I still think it's a great silent case. I think it's a great case to build in. But it just doesn't kind of match up against maybe like a fractal design or something like that. For the price.
Yeah, is it? Is it a little bit? Um,
it's not aluminum?
It's way overpriced. Yeah, just completely way overpriced. It's really like the nose to it. It doesn't it doesn't offer any any features at that price range like it doesn't. It doesn't have anything that we currently see as justifying cost at that price range right now.
Yeah, like the fractal design cases are right in there around that price. Way more data. Yeah, and they just do a better job. And they don't feel like this feels a little like compared to a fractal design. This feels a little cheap. And while it's like on the higher end of cases, like it doesn't feel like a $50 case, obviously. But it just feels like this should be 129 to get it out of the door. I think maybe 139. If you like you know, the fans, the fans are good. But I mean, you do get three of them, which is they're not? Yeah, they're not RGB. And
so you don't like a lot of times at this price range. For Non sideline cases, you just it can be justified with, you know, because they got to include three RGB fans pretty much nowadays, right? So like the cost is justified there. But with this, like, those are just three standard fans. They're not really anything that special.
Yeah, like I said, it's just, like I said, it's a mixed bag. Like, I think it's a good case, I think it's overpriced. But if you were to get this, I think you would be happy with it and what it does, but it's just it's like buying, it's like buying something for more than it's like but you know, we talked about the processes that are like more selling for more than what their retail is like, that's what this would be, you'd be happy with it. But you would know you paid too much for it.
Right? Yeah, that's, you know, that's a good way to put it.
And then one other thing that I forgot to mention, which was kind of a big deal. And I see I saw this with NZXT, too, is that the motherboard sits flush with the power supply cover. And you run into issues when trying to connect all of the headers at the bottom of your motherboard. Right? Yes,
you may say with a monster, you know, because yeah, like,
if you go to my installation, you can see I actually took a picture of like how I have to bend them around. It's just either make the holes bigger, so that you don't have that problem, or just move it up a little bit. So again, you don't have that problem. So you hardly
even have much attached to your
Yeah, I don't think they're
like, that's not that's not bad at all. So yeah, it could be much worse for somebody.
Yeah, so those are the things like I said, I gave an eight out of 10. Because it is a good case. It's just bottom line. It's overpriced. Justice. I mean, you know, yep. So check out the review. If you're if you're looking for, you know, like a silent case, it's definitely one that's in the running up there with the other, you know, fractal design and fan text cases. So definitely go ahead and check that out. And we'll move on to some of our other stuff this week. So for our video this week, I did a BIOS overview of the BIOS on the ACS prime x 570. Pro. You guys love these biases. We put them out usually every time we do a motherboard review. And it just gives you sort of a rundown of like what's in a BIOS and I usually talk about how to overclock and stuff. So if you do have an ACS x 574, it will be pretty much the same across all of the boards unless there's like a special feature that's on your board that's not on the prime x 570 Pro. So if you want to see what the ACC is, you know, x 570 BIOS is like definitely check that video out. We'll have a link to it in the show notes. And we have case mod Friday and we have a another build from Twister mod and I think he's like, sort of carved out this this niche where he builds these cases, or builds these systems where it kind of looks like the motherboard is like floating in the middle. Kind of and i just i he's he's done like three or four of these, which I think I've done our excellent Yeah. And this one is called radioactive RTX and it's an Nvidia theme build Nvidia colors and it's pretty simple. But it's just a good building like I said, like the motherboard section when the graphics cards seems like it's sort of floating inside the case. And I think it looks really really good. He built a custom rez in the front
like what basically replaces the front panel almost which looks really really good they're single panel or big single section rise it doesn't have any channel in or anything through it but looks pretty cool. I like that and it's a large volume of fluid which is actually good for Colin as well.
Yeah, I think so many times we see like these custom roses that like it. They're there for looks more than like performance. So it's good to see that and I like the little details in this like he has like cable clips that are like the neon the neon color you know yeah. neon green matter India. Yeah. and stuff like that, of course is coolant is the Nvidia green. So I think it's just a good build. Like it doesn't. It's just, it's just clean. It's very clean. And I just like it and one thing that he does on almost all of his builds and a few other builders do too, is he built a custom power cable that's braided which looks excellent. I think a lot of people just don't do that. That's like that last little step of ability I think and I think you know, he did a really cool job of making his power cable look pretty awesome there so definitely check this build out it it's pretty awesome. Yeah,
I think he might even have black light lights in the those fans up top because the way everything lights up just perfectly green. It's it's definitely I can't
Yeah, you might be right.
And then the other thing that you might want to take a closer look at that I noticed was the the polish on the PSU shout is pretty cool. He's got a cool pattern polished into that. So
I didn't even notice I like it. You see it, but like it doesn't it didn't jump out at me at first. But yeah, yep. Pretty cool. Pretty awesome. Um, so yeah, so that is this week's build. As I always say we have a full section of case mod Friday builds. So if you're looking for inspiration or anything like that, you can check all of that out. And we'll move on to news. And this is this is some interesting news this week. So start off with a story about Intel, sort of admitting that they lost market share to AMD, and that they vowed to be more aggressive. So at the cloud platforms and technology at the know at the city hungry, that's right. At this city global tech conference, a Jason grape, I think it's how you say his name. He's the Intel corporate Vice President, General Manager of cloud platforms and Technology Group. He said, when he was asking about Intel's market share, I'm just going to read his quote, he said, in general, there is a CPE. There's a CPU, if there is a CPU sale happening on the planet, we want to be involved in it. So we don't look at any segment of the market and say, Okay, we're going to walk away from that segment. And, or that we're not in or talk today, or that we're not interested in being there. We want to aggressively compete in all segments we've had, we've gone through the supply issue. In the last six to 12 months on the PC side, we had to walk away from some low and Mobile Share as well. So basically, what he's saying is like he's blaming it on a supply issue, but he's, I mean, it is a supply issue, because they haven't got to 10 animator, but at the same time, AMC is there, and they're a very good alternative. So it's it's basically like they're admitting like they're having issues, which isn't a very Intel thing to do. I would say.
Kind of the second thing, because we have that internal memo leak, as well.
Yeah, yeah. That was internal. This is it. This is very, yeah. Not internal. So I think, honestly, it's good to have them like admit, like, yeah, we need to be more aggressive. We need to, you know, do we need to put out good parts, and we need to work with, you know, enthusiasts, we need to do all that stuff, all the stuff that AMD has done to grow, they're market share, and somewhat you know what I mean? So it's very interesting to see you know, Intel or Intel, exact see that those type of things. But it looks like they are going to be doing something, they will be releasing a core i 990 900 KS. And we've we've heard about this for a little bit. And this is basically their version of an i 990 900. k, but it has an all core overclocked to five gigahertz. So when it boosts, like I said, the old one would boost the five gigahertz but it would be like one to two course this will boost on all eight cores. And they're going to be aggressively marketing this with the with the tagline five gigahertz means five gigahertz, kind of going after AMD, which we talked about is like their processors not hitting the boost. Speed that that was actually ties. And again, this is sounds great. But I just don't know how they're going to do that with a what's the TD there's no TVP listening on this chip yet? And they haven't because it has to be very high. Because every time that chip boosts, it's going to be all core. It's like an old core overclock.
So I don't is it? Is it all core all the time? Like for sure. That's what they're saying? Or is it? Is it all core all the time? If enabled? Is it all core?
I don't I feel like there's going to be more to it. Maybe I feel like, I feel like you're going to need like a 360 AO to run it.
Probably I mean, you already know 360 IO for 900 K. So
yeah, that's what I mean. I mean, if like I say if I'm running senate bench on this thing. I mean, the seat, the CPU knows I'm putting everything on it. So it's going to have to boost right. And then the thing is to you also have to worry about z 390 boards, the VRM is being able to handle that much power. Because again, we don't know the GDP of this and it has to be higher than a 9900 K. And we've already had issues with motherboards. Their VRM is not being powerful enough where you actually thermal the throttle because of the VRS. So that brings a whole nother thing out of this, which who knows, but we'll see the only real difference. It's going to come in the same cool packaging when she got with yours, which is like that. What does that like optical Yeah, well, so I'm working
on but yeah, it's like multi-sided So
yeah, it's this weird, you know, I don't know. Ball cube thing. Yeah. Yeah. It's just gonna say Special Edition back on it. But yeah, I mean, this will be the the chip to get in. I think this is going to go head to head against empties. 16 core processor, which I guess we'll just skip to that. Yeah, so, uh, the rise of 939 50 X, which we were told about way back, I think Computex. Right, I think
it was announced with everything else. We just weren't going to get it.
Yeah, so it was announced as the world's first 16 core gaming CPU. This is where apparently, AMD thinks they're going to get the better performance in gaming. That's, that's the only thing with the 3000 series is that it still doesn't beat Intel parts at gaming. They just don't. So this is 16 core 32. Thread 4.6 gigahertz boost 3.5 gigahertz bass, and 105 watt TDP for only 749, which isn't crazily expensive, but it was listed online at a Swiss online retailer. And it says that it goes on sale on September 30. So MD had total September, but it looks like Sunday, September 30. which kind of makes sense. You think
they were start advertising?
Yeah, I don't know what their plan is for this
silently. Let it release? I don't know.
It's a lot of money. I think that it will I you would think if the 9900. Ks is on par with this, you would think they want this out before that. Right? Sure.
Yeah. And they should be able to easily figure out chaos performance, because it's simply overclocking all course to five, which you can do right now. Yeah. So
yeah. And the only differences is that I assume the KS parts are very highly been to be able to do that anyway.
Yeah, to do it. Yeah, to do it. But if you're just trying to find great performance, I mean, you can pull the thing down as much as you need to and see what it's going to do.
Yeah, yeah. So
like I said, 38. Sounds good. To me. Having a 16 core mainstream parts just still seems seems crazy to me. I mean, I know like I said, I have a 3900 X, but just adding the more cores. It's just yeah, crazy to me. But and again, 16 cores that under $1,000 is pretty awesome to me, too.
So yeah. So that will be on the hopefully will be on the 30th. We haven't got like confirmation from AMD or anything. But hopefully, the 30th will be the date and then be another kind of battle between Intel and AMD, which is always good for us the consumer, so I'm pretty pumped for that. So talking about AMD, they did finally issue a statement on their low. They're low rise and 3000 series boost clocks. We talked about it for the past couple weeks, where a lot of people have been doing tests, and even in our tests, the like, especially the rise of 930 900 x like it would not hit its advertised boost speed like for us it would I think at the advertises 4.6 4.5. But in our testing, we would hit like 4.2 4.25 you know, just on auto settings, which it should hit its booze clock as most processors shouldn't. Yeah. And there's been claims of false advertising. We talked about last week that I mean, this could be a lawsuit, things like that. So AMD did issued a statement. And they said they will provide an update on September 10, which was yesterday, which they did release a blog post. And they said they've shipped the new code to the motherboard manufacturers. And then they'll release a new BIOS. And Tom's Hardware didn't get a copy of this new code somehow. And they did testing and it does improve on the 3700. x could like completely 3900 x still not all the way up there. It doesn't prove a little bit but it does it doesn't put it at its stock.
Yeah, it's probably too hot. And it's got all that it's a very complicated self overclock. Or just put it that way. So I imagine any sort of stumble or voltage low, it's not working right for it. It's not it's just not going to boost so. So what do they do that over override their own safety features? or?
Yeah, and like I said, I mean, this brings it back to being a it could be a lawsuit. I mean, we've seen lawsuits on far less things, I guess, you know, when it comes to when it comes to products, as far as like the last This is America, we've seen it is. Um, so yeah, so we'll see what happens. Whenever those biases are released. I mean, I have the processor, so I'll probably do some tests and let you guys know kind of how, how everything works out with that. But yeah, it's kind of it's a dicey situation, you know. So I guess we'll see kind of how that goes. I'm talking about graphics cards, which we haven't heard a whole lot about, but more custom RX 5700 XTS have appeared online. One of the most anticipated ones is sapphires, sapphires, Nigeria card, and their night show plus OC did appear online. It looks good. It's supposed to be much higher overclock than the the pulse which we reviewed. I just don't get excited for these cards. I don't know what it is about AMD cards, for the most part. Just the designs just don't do it for me.
I don't know it's kind of like other motherboards. And we used to be and kind of show our there's something that's like, just not premium about them. And it's it's odd because it's not even a MD designing these
Yeah, especially like the shrouds and stuff now I don't know if there's like a spec thing. I don't believe there's like a spec they have to keep for like the actual like shrouds
like they assume they can do whatever they want, right?
Because most of them are like this like rectangle thing. Like Yeah, like I just saw review today. Well, yeah, but you don't I mean, like they're very boxy. Yeah, like even the the MSI Gaming x which is like a very nice card. That one I have a 2016 Gaming x which uses the same cooler will same design almost that the the MD card is boxy. It doesn't have like the lines like the Nvidia card does why they don't
perhaps, maybe it is MBC This is the look we want.
Yeah, I don't know. I just I don't know. Because again, I guess I mean, we do see it but I mean, if a company uses the same cooler on the NAMD card and Nvidia card then how am I looking at your system supposed to know which card you're running? I guess? I don't know. That's
kind of a non issue. I would say though, like yeah,
I don't know. I just purposely designed
one that looks worse. So the consumer knows which one is yours.
I mean, you have to you have to I agree that like over the past few years, like all the AMD aftermarket cards have looked the same.
Yeah. Like they just they don't even this this whole run they all kind of fall within the same
like the MSI car that I have. It's awesome looking but it's still like boxy. Yeah, it's like it's not like Well, you could have you could do a lot more and I just I just don't know why they don't that's just I don't know, sorry that's me venting but but yeah. So we have that's an awesome news for overclocking g skill has actually hit six gigahertz on DDR for so they set a new world record and it's their g skilled trades the Royal that did it's pretty awesome.
cooler. I can I doubt it. It's got to be under liquid nitrogen.
Yeah. I assume it's with nitrogen. I don't have a picture of the actual setup, which is odd. But yeah, it was done on the MSI MPGZ 390 I gaming edge AC motherboard, and a 9900 k processor. But that's pretty awesome. 60 gigahertz on memory.
Yeah, it's real interesting. Looking at this is a these 900 K, but they don clocked it to 100 megahertz. Yeah, that's pretty cool interest. I've never really done extreme memory overclocking so it's like I said, Yeah. Memory but not like this. This is pretty cool. Oh, it is liquid cooling nitrogen. Yeah,
you can you can see it in there. And the other
ON on the, on the processors as well. So yeah, interesting. Very, very cool. But
yeah, six gigahertz is awesome.
Maybe they did down clock it. I'm gonna take that back. I bet this is they've just got turbo turned on. Sorry. That was not even the point of this article.
Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Speed step or something. But that is super cool. Yet three months after the world record was set. Memory overclocking is actually pretty fun. And it's pretty easy. So if you haven't yet done that, they actually we have a guide on the website for it. Yeah, we
actually do. And it's like, you're not, you don't run the as more of a risk as breaking something. Like, yeah, kind of just you
when it doesn't work, right. You kind of just like, your system just doesn't work. It just will not be so.
Yeah. And the thing is, is that if you have like certain boards, that like if they boot a few times, it will just reset everything. Yeah, I think gigabyte sports, do it a sport suit in a lot of Esports have the memo k button, which means like, instead of hitting power, you hit the memo k button, and it will try all these different timings and settings to boot the system. So you don't have to worry about like, Oh, I just I just broke my system.
It's much less likely you're gonna hurt something. Your memory, it's definitely if you've not done it, it's it's fun. It's easy. And it actually you can see the you can feel the improvements when you're using the system when you get
not only just faster, but like time timings Yeah, well, it's a good good way to improve things too. So yeah, maybe we'll put the link to our article in there. You guys can go ahead and check that out. For sure. So talking about your realm of stuff, gigabyte has unveiled their first ao liquid CPU color, which means that's another thing that gigabyte makes we have what we started we started with, did they start with motherboards? I think they started motherboards. graphics cards, they make memory now they make cases they make air CPU coolers that we've made now on iOS, they make monitors now they make SSD what dump they don't they make everything except for the CPU.
Yeah, like now what of it they actually make in house?
I don't know, this looks like a piece of tech. This is definitely
a tech. And it actually looks like design, by the way.
Yeah, it was a thing that that they have tried to I don't want to say coffee, but they they have the little LCD screen on it. Like the the ACS RG ones, which I think is cool. It's kind of what we're kind of moving into. Because you can't, you can only do so much with like a pump block design. You know, I actually feel
like that's something that people aren't trying hard enough with. Oh, I feel like there are way more out there things that people could be doing. They just are like limiting themselves to like, maybe its cost and not wanting to raise the cost just for something you do. Just do the pump cover. Essentially what it is, you know, I don't know, but I feel like you could do way more outlandish things with it, but people just don't.
Yeah, we didn't see co pastor do the one with two pumps. Okay, so yeah,
you can do things that work.
Yeah. So, but I think it looks good. I think this is just another thing that they make now, which doesn't look half bad. I don't know how it's going to perform. But you do get RTD fans as well. And it all syncs up with their lighting software. So like I said, they make everything now they're like they're taking over the world. So yeah, so good for them though. I like I said, I think it's good to see another like, ROG kind of has everything like, you know, is like the big game. And everything. Yeah. And it's good to see like another one. So you have an option if you're kind of going
to drive pressing down on ROG because it's ridiculous.
Yeah, that too. So good to see that. So I don't know. I don't
think now yet.
They didn't release pricing. But as I assume it's going to be in line with other 240 mil. goes. So yeah, so definitely check it out. And if you say we'll try to get one in for Derek to take a look at. Yeah. So our last thing, which is actually pretty cool if you're a gamer is that Intel has announced a $500,000 open invite tournament that's going to be held in Tokyo in 2020. So this is a really big eSports tournament, pretty big prize money, two games, Street Fighter, five, and Rocket League, and they'll be $250,000 for each game. So they're gonna, they're gonna hold qualifiers and things like that, and everything and you'll be able to lose info in the post on everything. But the reason they're doing this is actually to kind of get like eSports, kind of in the same realm as the Olympics, which are happening in Tokyo as well, to try to try to push that to possibly get eSports in the Olympics, like how would you feel if like, we hadn't a USA Olympic team for eSports? Uh,
I don't know. I don't know. It's kind of a, I'm not saying it's not a sport. But there's a certain the Olympics already has certain like roles and qualifiers in order to get an event in. And I feel like, the difficult that even some, like, traditional sports have had, like less common traditional sports have had to get an Olympic event. Like to make it eSports just because there's enormous amount of money behind it. I don't know, kind of like, I don't know if that really goes with the Olympics, to be honest.
Honestly, like, I remember back in the day, like, there were like, the basically like the Olympics, like, the Cpl. Like cyber athlete professionally was like the big deal. Like that was the thing, like and we do have these mat like, the Dakota World Championships, like we do have these, like, massive things that get more views than the Super Bowl. I mean, does it mean I mean, I would like it would be cool to have any Olympics. But one I don't think it's ever going to be a game that like we like because they said they'll never put in in eSports scheme that has violence, which is like every
title other than Rocket League.
Yeah, yeah, I guess Rocket League doesn't. I mean, you can blow people. I don't know. Yeah, so I think it's cool. But it's cool for Intel to put the money and put out put on such a big event, especially for Rocket League. You know, which has got that big influx of cash from, from Epic, right? Yeah. So that's gonna be huge for them. But what's great about this, too, is it's open. Like, you don't need to be invited to this where a lot of the other big things like you have to be invited. So you know, if you start now and get really good, you can do one of the online qualifiers, and then you could qualify, which is pretty cool, too. So yeah, that's pretty, pretty cool. I, like I said, There hasn't been a whole lot of like talking the whole eSports world. So good to see Intel put up the money. And hopefully, yeah, you know, I assume you'll be able to stream these events online, and we'll be able to watch them so pretty
Yes. corny, excited for that. I'm like, like, I'm not I would prefer that. Like they have their own World League thing. Like one thing, you know, their own Olympics. It just, it just doesn't seem the same.
Right? I guess. Yeah.
I'm no problem with it. Because it is it's an enormous thing. And it's awesome that it is what it is become it just, I feel like yeah, it's just not quite the same thing as all.
Yeah. Yeah. I agree. I it's just, it's a little different. And it's.
And I think like,
you know, we've already had eSports on ESPN. Like, we already there's already more people watching big eSports events in the Super Bowl. Is the Olympics really going to help? It might actually hurt it? If anything?
Because it makes it too mainstream.
Maybe or just like people complaining or just saying that the athletes are sure you know how. So? Yeah. And or like, even the pressure that's on like, mostly eSports athletes or kids, you know what I mean? So like, the pressure that's put on somebody to win gold or that I mean, that's
not too much different than like gymnastics.
Yeah, that's very true. Like, what? 1450? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So. So yeah, there's all those different things that go with it. But it's cool to see the tournament. And when we get more info on like, where you can stream it and things like that will definitely put that up on the site. So cool. So coming up next week. I was supposed to get done this week, but I had issues that cannot be explained by any human. So they sent me another motherboard. So I'll be taking a look at the ass rock z 390 Phantom gaming x, which is a really awesome motherboard. I just had some issues with it, which, again, I can't explain, just have this this issue sometimes. And then Ryan will be taking a look at a case from in when it's there. 905 all basically like almost all aluminum. It's very cool. I reviewed the I forget which one I reviewed, which is which was very similar. But a little bit scary Mahler but this is the bigger version. So we'll be taking a look at that. And there's a new Coursera case coming out next week, which I can't tell you about. But I can tell you there's new core course in it is coming out next week. And it's actually pretty good for the price. So good. We'll definitely talk about that next week. And why don't you tell us about uh,
well, I finally upgraded my GPU from my 970 with 3.5 gigabytes of RAM to, to I got to 2070 Super, which is 2018, which is 28, essentially, and again, the VGA Black Edition, and it's pretty sweet. I'm getting everything I'm almost on the highest setting in Apex at 1440 P, because that's what my main monitor is I'm getting like 140 plus frames at all times. Yeah, so I'm pretty serious, stoked on that it's actually noticeable. In the game. I think I've actually been missing. Like, not knowingly, but like, it's smoother, and it's easier now. Like, I'm actually I'm actually better know,
what, do you know what FPS you were hitting before?
Don't never it wasn't running the counter before. But I had the settings, I had to turn settings down to like, medium at best. And yeah, so this is just so much better. The game looks a little bit better. That sort of game isn't going to look phenomenal. change the settings too high. It's just the kind of like,
you should get gears five. I've seen people play it. It looks amazing.
Okay, I've also got much battlefield installed. I just haven't ran it. Yeah, latest one. That. Yeah, but also five. And I really I played electro Exodus as well.
Yeah, yeah, that's another game that's gonna look really good on that is that too, so
but so I made the upgrade, right. And I was super happy until I realized that they removed the there's no DPI on that card at all, of any type. And I have a Korean monitor and achieve a shimmy, which is a 1440 p monitor. It's a it's a a minus grade Apple panel that they just repackage into their own and ship that out for much cheaper. So it looks really good. But it's it's cheap. And it's not pretty as far as the frame and everything goes. But this, it also only comes with DVD for connection. And that's a problem when you don't have any deep connection on the graphics card. And so I got an adapter and the adapter doesn't work for whatever. I got a first one I got it, I got it just a straight up on powered adapter. It's a it's display port to DVID. And it just doesn't work. And so then I bought a an SL display port to DVD active adapter that you plug into a USB port and and display port port as well. And the tip that just before we started recording, actually, and it doesn't do anything. It the computer knows it's there, but it doesn't send any signal to the monitor. Yeah, that's that's just super frustrating. So that was like 70 bucks.
Well, you'd be returning that I'll be
sending my son the other one back now too. I was like, well, I might as well just to those eight bucks. But nope. Now they're both gone back. That's Yeah, I don't know what to do. I guess I'm, I'm buying a new monitor.
Here. I mean, that's, we run that risk when we buy anything that's like, and you don't like when you're buying it. You don't think about it right? You know, especially when you
know you don't even that's that wasn't even a cycle.
Yeah, you don't think about it. But yeah, I mean, that's that that is the standard now. And it's three display port and one HDMI. And like, typically, most monitors have at least HDMI. You know what I mean? But in your case it didn't. So that's like, yeah, that's a bummer. Like, it's like, yeah, yeah, it's because it's like, you're kind of screwed, because if it ever doesn't work, what are you going to do? And you don't want to like me? You're not going to go back to the 970? Oh, no. I mean, no, I know. So I can't run
it. I can't just run it. Can I remember used to build a run as an older card is a physics card.
Yeah, oh, I think you could run it as a secondary card.
I mean, in which case, I have even older cards to just run it off of wonder if that was like a $30. Like GTX, like 430 or something like that.
I don't think you could run like you could physically like you could run it to display like Windows, but I don't think you could I don't think then like, you know, then on that display that's connected to that car. I don't believe I could be wrong, but I don't believe you can could use the other card to do the processing. Does that make sense?
Because Oh, well, I don't need to all I need to do is despite windows I just needed as a secondary screen.
Yeah. So yeah, you could probably you could do that with any card. I believe. I haven't done that. And so
most cards have like, you know, they all have three display ports that you just use those if you're using multiple displays. But yeah, I yeah, I mean, the I assume that will work. I assume you can just plug in any old card. And as long as it's an Nvidia it doesn't even have to be I think that like an ATM card or not an AMD card. Yeah, I'm sure it would work.
It's super frustrating though. Because this monitor a place even today at 1440 P, the quality of it is like a four or $500 monitor.
Yeah, that's some that's like that's not cost that you weren't looking to spend in that. They it's one of those things. It's just like you weren't looking to encounter that problem. Just like my motherboard problem, which I I can't figure out at all. And I've done everything. Yeah, it's the same thing. So that's kind of a bummer.
Yeah, so sometimes the hobby or obsession, whatever it is, really bites you in the ass.
Yeah, I will see you next week if we if that that a little hack that work backwards? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we'll see how that could
get a 560 here. I'll just throw that in and see if that works. That's what I'll do.
Yeah, yeah, you should do that. Um, so my little tech thing for this week, since we're talking about is that my office is just not very bright. But I, my my office is on the third floor of my place. And it's kind of like kind of like a Finnish attic. You know, I mean, there's like a single there was like a single dome light up here. And I do have a window, but it just, it's just not that bright. So I was looking around for office lights. And like, you can spend a lot of money and office lights, like a lot. And I want to end the thing is I'm renting. So I don't want to lot of the office sites that you can buy are like ones you you tie into, like the layer into the house. Yeah, you are into the house. It's something that I could probably do like my landlords cool. But I didn't want to have to deal with that. I'm not electrician, like I just you know. So after doing like days of research, I found these these things that are called shop lights, which are basically for like a garage or a like a you know, like a shop. There. They're LED, so they don't get super hot. They're 6500 Kelvin, which is super bright. What I wish I want this keeps me awake.
Yeah, super Angela blow for anybody that's not aware.
Yeah. And that's they, you can easily like mount them on the ceiling. They can be daisy chained together, or you they actually provide all of the like power like the on and off switches with the cable for everyone as well. So you get it, you get a pack of six, I put them up by had a little issue kind of drilling into my ceiling, which I'll address later, but I did get them up. And it's super bright in here now. Like it's awesome. So like anybody who's looking to brighten up an office for a very low cost, these were 4399 for six of them. Which I think is a really good deal because every other light like office like that I was looking at was well over $100 and you can put these wherever you want for the most parts and again, you can daisy chain them, which makes them really easy to you know, connect together. And again, they're led so they don't get really hot or anything like that. Like I was using photography lights for like the longest time just like the light up my office oh really uses get quite warm or more power. Yeah, those those uses far more power and getting makes it very, very warm up here. So this is just like an ultimate solution. Like I'm so happy I did. I wasn't sure like, you know, when you buy something you're like, ah, I don't know if it's gonna work. Yeah. And it actually worked some pretty pretty pumped about that. So I'll have a link where you guys can pick that up if you're if you need to, you know, brighten up your office office space or something like that, or anything really like I would suggest these for like, I might get another set to put in our basement because it's kind of dark down there too. So So yeah, yeah, so that is the end here. Hopefully next week we have we have better news about me not having motherboard problems, and Derek not having problems with his Yeah, either buying a new monitor or something like that. We'll see if we can figure those things out. But as always, we have our full show notes page that has everything that we talked about. So you can go ahead and scroll through and get all of the information. And if you're looking for us on your favorite podcasting app or website, it's just think computers all one word. So until next week, catch you guys later