Ep.91 Now You're Speaking My Game (Doug - Esport Broadcaster)
12:58AM Apr 14, 2020
Good day everyone you're listening to Tom if your hobby and this is episode 91 now you're speaking my game. I'm your host Alex and today I have the honor to have Doug as my guest on the show how you doing today?
Hey, thanks very much for having me on. I'm good. How are you?
I'm doing fantastic. I think you're my second person from the UK calling. So, you know, I always love having more people from around the world and that's one of my objectives. So Doug, you're fulfilling my dream.
All right. Everyone loves the British accent. Maybe it needs to be more pasta. Good. Good morning. Good afternoon.
The whole episode.
Oh, like, Yes, we'll just get the classic duck the best kind.
So before we jump into the topic of the day, who is duck not the Brit like the posh duck, but the classic dog?
I don't know, I guess I'm a gamer. I'm really into heavy metal music probably like a typical nerd. I love smartphones love computers, to try and stay active where I can but spend most of the time sitting down watching YouTube playing games. And also
podcasting. Is that correct?
Yes, yes. Just got into it. To be honest. Yeah,
he does a really interesting podcast. Am I giving a little description of what it is? Because I've never seen anything like that.
Yeah, of course. So the podcast is called Search Complete. And it's co hosted by myself and my wife. And basically, we just come up with like some phrases that we think people would put into Google search, like the first part of it. For example, how long does it take to and then what we do is we try and guess what Google will autocomplete or predict that we want to finish the you know, finish the sentence so that we make some guesses How long does it take to boil an egg for example, then we actually type it in, see what the results are? Do a little bit of research and then report back to us. So it's a bit I like to call it edutainment, podcast, Ed, part education, part entertainment.
I love it. And I remember I sent you a picture of what your first episode was and how I searched here and how the results were different in Canada, which was pretty interesting.
It's really interesting both that I we we always do it incognito because Google definitely changes results based on past searches but it definitely does it on like your location as well.
Well, incognito VPN, you know, just you'd say any country in the world that could be a new thing for one of the episodes anyways, not about how to do your podcast, I'm sure you have a lot to talk about. And people can go check that out. And speaking of which, where can people find you whether it's for your podcasts, social media, links, anything at all can be related to anything even product You're working on that's not related to your hobby.
Oh, my personal Twitter is zambra 101 Sunbrella being my gamertag and the podcast just you can find that on any of the normal podcasting apps to search search complete,
it's perfect. I'll put all that in the description below so people can go check that out and follow. I highly recommend to go check out this podcast It is very entertaining and what was the word you used? Again? It was agitating
edutainment entertainment. Yeah,
it is in the training will do. But yes, today is not about that today is about Doug's hobby, which is esport commentator slash broadcaster. So what is that exactly? For people who might not know what it is?
So? Well, I call myself a eSports caster, but it's basically just a commentator for eSports specifically for me, it's Dota two although I have delved into the esports. So he just commentate over professional or non professional games to be honest, and how did you get introduced? When I started playing Dota two to get good at it, I would watch YouTube videos. And there was this one YouTuber who I thought was great. He was really good for like educational content. But occasionally he would upload a video where he would cast or commentate, like pub games, or they could like political pub games, where they're like public games. So like the sort of just random stuff his viewers would play, then submit them to him and then hit cast over the top. And I thought that was really cool. So I started my own YouTube channel, uploaded my own normal gameplay videos, but then started casting as well. And then one thing turned into another and I was doing it a lot more.
And you still have the record of your first broadcast.
Not my first but actually, you know what, I haven't even looked but I think I'd probably do and I am scared to go back and watch it now actually. Because I did it with my friend who was not into it as much as I was. It it's probably awful, but I
bet you had so much fun while you did it anyways, right?
I mean, that's how we did it stuff just just a good laugh to be honest.
Actually Speaking of which, how long did it take you to get into your groove? Because I would imagine the first of anything people are like trying to find their ground. But for you, how long did it take you? Was it like after the fifth casting the 20th, the
100 men many
10s 10s of times, and what
would you say is your type of commentating skills or like what is your style?
So I'm a play by play Costa says kind of like describing what's going on in the game at that point in time as opposed to like a more analytical Costa which would be like when a bit of during downtime talk about some of the more specific elements of what's going on in the game so I do more do the fast talking, describing what's going on during a fight sort of thing
Okay, so you wouldn't be like saying predicting something in the middle of the fight saying oh, well you should do this. Oh no, he didn't do that you just talk literal now but
oh yeah, this year is doing this he's casting this spell is going really well for this team looks like all they managed to kill that person in the back. was amazing. And that sort of stuff,
man, you must train yourself so hard to just be talking really fast. And how do you prepare your casting? Do you have like a she wouldn't like no saying about the players or this is this player, this is this player, this is what I need to know, how do you research them?
Cuz I'm quite like really into the sort of like Dota professional scene, it would generally be stuff that I already know, if I was going real hard, I would try and research stuff. But generally as a play by play cast, you don't need to do that so much can lean on like your mind at the analytical caster to do some of that stuff. So basically, just make sure you're up to date with the current patch because there's like lots of updates and all that.
Are you still up to date or you're out of the loop now?
No, no, I'm still very much up to date. You know, the patch notes come out, and it's always exciting to see what's happened.
This might sound like a really, really stupid question. But does it ever happen that you're while you're playing Dota? Two, you brought it like you cast yourself just practicing commentating?
No, I saw I tried streaming for a bit. And as a just like a generic Twitch streamer, you kind of need to be entertaining and talk to yourself anyway, or talk to your audience, but it's really just talking to yourself. But I would never try and casting myself a few times, but it's just kind of weird. And now I'm gonna do this. It's really exciting.
It just gets too confusing. Could you imagine just at home you do that? And now I'm opening the fridge door to Apple out of the fridge taking a bite. Oh, no. I definitely
have been times when I've been at parties or something. And it's just, you know, it's like almost one of my friends or something, but like, you commentate what that person is doing.
That person is looking at me very weird. He's walking towards me. throwing a punch at me. Oh, I got hit. But no, no, I bet you you're very friendly and people love you. But anyways, um, is it only Dota two that you like to broadcast or he used to cast or is there other games that you like to try to put your hand
and I dabbled with Rocket League. But apart from that nice It's just I'd like to, I don't know, some people do do but I don't know how. Because when you really get into one esport it's just like, suck, suck suck up your whole time. There's no time for any other ones. How do you train yourself to be able to improvise conversation and dialogue, you get into a flow. So you always, you know, you're generally talking about x thing between minutes, zero and five, and then the game moves on to another point. So you know, you've got these points, you need to hit minutes, five to 10. And then if things are boring, there's generally some things I can fall back on. And you can try and make a specific thing interesting. I feel
like you're so you would be amazing at improv. Oh, am I wrong to think that?
Ah, the thing is, I don't, I don't think I am not good at improv. Because, I guess if I knew the material really, really well, but that's not really improvisation. So honestly, it just comes down to repetition and practice. They're your
kids, you listening, just keep practicing, and you'll be perfect or close to it. And so for you on a personal level, what would you say is the best part about esport casting on a personal and emotional level?
I love the esports scene in general. I think it's like when you get deep enough into any scene, whether that be eSports, sports, hot, you know, crafting, I don't know, whatever it is, you find a group of people that are passionate about something, you just get sucked into it. So being a caster really suits you what you're on top of on top of it really you get to look down from a bird's eye view and see everything. And you get to be part of those special moments. And again,
and actually On that note, I say that a lot, but has anybody taught you any tricks or skills to include in your casting and vice versa? Have you taught anybody about casting?
No, in between us being taught and the thing is very hard to get feedback. I'm sure you found it with like the podcasts as well. Sometimes It's like, if you're trying to get feedback from your friends, they're always like, Yeah, it's great. It's great. They don't want to hurt your feelings. So getting feedback from like impartial sources is really hard to find. So I occasionally get some things but it's usually just like Yeah, it's great keep it up, which is not really what you're looking for. In terms of imparting knowledge onto other people I try and give you like constructive feedback where possible, but it's quite lonely to be honest in terms of feedback. Okay, well for people
listening to this podcast right now hit me with your hardest feedback I can take it don't don't criticize criticize me.
You want me to criticize your wonderful podcast?
No, no, the opposite the opposite. Dark darkness, darkness evil, bad, bad stuff. Give me Alex your two ball, two podcasts, the light will reflect into the computer screen and then you won't see the notes and you'll improvise and you suck in improvising. I don't know.
I think your voice is too deep. It's too too silky smooth. Okay, so let's, let's get to the
next question is
Do you prefer? Exactly? Yeah. Do you prefer casting alone or with company?
Absolutely. With company, it's, it's a grind to cast on your own. So imagine trying to do your podcast on your own. It's like there's no like conversation to have you just like talking at people as apart from sort of like making people feel part of the conversation, which is really what you want with a cast. It's like you're creating a story of the game so having someone else to discuss that with
makes it a lot easier. And did you find this one friend or a coworker or colleague that just matches you perfectly when I say match? I don't mean like the same thing but like the compliment each other.
Honestly, I don't think I ever found he like, actually, no, that's a lie. There was definitely a couple of people that he once you sort of like cast with them a lot. You start sort of like learning the cadences that you each have. So there were definitely a couple of courses that I ended up costing with a lot to everything. to flow a lot to get flow very well together. Because you what one of the worst things about, like having a pair caster is that you end up talking over each other. And that's just not good to listen to. But once you've got that flow, it's great.
And Has it ever happened to you? Or actually, what was the weirdest or worse experience you've ever had while casting? If you don't mind me asking,
no, that's fun. That is a that's a tricky one too. And I think one of the weirdest things that happened is this to this to that I can think of one is when the game gets paused for such a long time, you end up finding some weird stuff to talk about, like literally anything. And the second one is I was at a LAN event and it was sponsored by this energy drink company. So we have to do these like promotional segment where we'd like go cheesy, otherwise have a can right now where you go like delicious. You should grab a camera. Whatever it is, I can't remember what it was right now some energy drink less stuff, a can
of jet fuel.
Looking back is I actually feel kinda I'm on because I'm kind of in marketing right now, I would be so pissed off if I was that company sponsoring it, and then we will kind of just taking the piss out of it a bit. So I feel a bit bad now. But it's like no one taught me that side of things and how important it was. So kind of just felt weird to do. But at the end of the day, that was experience and now your marketing actually taught you more things on what is appropriate, necessarily appropriate for what works and what doesn't work.
And still on the side of things that happen while you're casting. Has it ever happened that somebody rage quit or had to like Angry moment and how did you react to it as a caster,
say in the program situation that pretty much never happens? Because then that's when so rage quitting doesn't really happen. And if so, it's normally at the end of The game anyway, so it doesn't really matter. So to be honest, hasn't really happened. It's normally just funny if they do. Well, they're good.
That's good that you had a good experience and nobody just comes at you. Hopefully nobody goes Ever After the cast or that'd be, it wouldn't be good.
Yeah, I've definitely been accused of like, you know, being biased and helping out another team like sending them secret messages or something, which he found very offensive, but that's probably only happened once or twice.
And I'm guessing this other team who accused you of this was not winning. I would imagine I could be wrong none
Not at all.
You know, it's projecting your anger and don't get Don't get mad at the cast or the cast is just there to entertain or educate. Entertain. I can't remember the word but yes, that works.
Entertain does does fit cost costing rollers. Oh,
yeah, exactly. So, for casting, I don't know if it's similar to podcasting, but what kind of equipment Do you usually have when You're casting esport game.
Yeah, it's very similar to podcasting I started off in the main difference is that you need a streaming PC as well, which generally is relatively expensive or popular gaming PC, it's got expensive components. Fortunately, over the last few years, I'd say it's got a lot cheaper, or at least Yeah, basically the hardware has got a lot better so the lower end hardware is good enough to be able to stream but you can get away with just like you know, like a headset mic comes on like some gaming headset.
And do you have any inspirations others casters and you're like, Oh, I want to be like them or I like their technique and how they do this.
There's so many like iconic moments with different casters that it's kind of hard to name one. But though is it's funny, they always seem to be either Australian or British and that those seem better than one British caster who is just phenomenal. And I never realized this but sometimes you get to see video feeds of them while they're costing This guy actually like gets up out of his chair is like walking around while car, we're not like walking, semi pacing up and down, jumping up and down while he's casting in that energy really comes through, and it's cast and you just become captivated. So whatever he does, I just want to do as well,
so I would correct me if I'm wrong, but I would imagine he's the type of person that would also speak with his hands because I don't know about you, but when I do my podcasts, I speak a lot with my hands even though no one is looking. Are you that type of person when you're casting?
I'm I am just speculating right now. I guess sometimes when you're casting kinda need your hands on the mouse and keyboard because sometimes your camera as well, I'll be jumping around the place.
So you're able to multitask. And do you find that challenging to do the camera and casting at the same time?
That's usually one of the biggest criticisms of casters is that that camera work is terrible, because you're not Yeah, you're multitasking. So you're trying to follow the action and speak at the same time. But watching there's a few tools to help out with that sort of like smooths out the camera movement. So After a while, you just kind of lean into those tools, so you can focus on your costing.
And that's why doing it with another person could definitely help. So you can just help each other out.
Yeah. And in the bigger tournaments and stuff, they have like dedicated camera people to like, move the in game camera effectively,
which will make the flow a lot better. Yeah. And so for you, you've been doing this or you haven't done in a while, but you've done it for a few years. What was your technique to improve your casting skills? Like what did you do for training,
I would just cost everything I could, like anything and everything. I would occasionally listen back to my podcasts, but when you're starting out, listening to your own voice is freaky as hell. Like I sound like that. And you just don't want to but you do get used to it and it's something you have to do. So I would go back and listen to my own costs and try and figure out where I was could improve. But most of the time, it was just cost as much as I could
I don't know if this is an appropriate question to ask, but do you feel that your reach your, the point that you wanted to reach in your casting skills like this is what I wanted to achieve?
I actually do. I tried to start out as a hobby, but I tried to make make it as a Costa. So I'd like to work or anything for a few months, actually, about nine months. And I just cast everything I could say, No, I tried my best. I think I got to pretty much yeah, I wouldn't say of course, I was not perfect by any chance, but so like, 90% of the way there. So I was happy with where i, where i got to, and at that point is a very nice bosses, but at least at that time was very new. So it was kind of who you knew that and also a lot of luck as to whether you'd make it. So I was I didn't feel bad about taking a step back.
And you're saying you just cancelled everything. How often let's say during one week, would you cast
it would depend on what's going on. But during a busy, busy week, it would be nice, I guess to series a day probably which would be about six hours a day,
every day and your voice wouldn't get tired would have
to be when I started. It would. But the the voice is a muscle so you can just build up and train over time. Just yell constantly yell and just take some protein out. I definitely did did heavily lean into some strepsils or cough sweets or whatever,
just there like a Pez dispenser. just popping them out.
Make sure you drink a lot as Are you
even for podcasting. I have a giant glass of water right in front of me just in case. Whenever I'm not talking, I'm just drinking water. And another side What does broadcasting or sorry esport casting taught you in life,
I think is told me to persevere and to become more self motivated because you're effectively as possible. Casting and like the sort of like online things that you can do yourself it's it's all on you to just work hard and get better. So I think it's taught me that you can do these things it just takes time and effort and repetition and dedication just makes you improve like you said you often you did six hours a day and whether you like it or not, you improved just by continuously doing. Yes, yes.
And has esport casting ever stressed you out?
Yes, very much so. Honestly, the actual casting part is like once I was in the game, it just everything comes together fine. But when you're setting up like oh, is my PC gonna crash? How's my internet going to be? all the players gonna show up? It's my co caster gonna show up? That was all very stressful. But once you're in the game, it was okay.
Was there a moment that like one casting that it was just the perfect storm?
Yeah, there's definitely been times where it just goes horribly like this huge delays. Internet plays, like you're halfway through, you could be broadcasting to thousands of people and then suddenly your internet dies. And you're just like, Why? Why do this to me and you sort of like reset your router. Try not to miss all the action. There's there's never fun technical issues, the worst,
and they come out of the blue. Like, you know what, you're gonna have a bad day. Oh, thanks. Great, thank you. It's just like,
it's hard because it's out of your control. Like if you're having a bad day that's on you. And it happens but you can like learn and improve from that. But when it's your ISP or your pc or like Windows Update or something that you just have no control over is the worst windows. Oh,
you're streaming your casting right now. Looks like it's time for an update. Yeah. Oh, it's not an option. You're gonna it's gonna shut down in like five seconds.
Yeah, fortunately, I think I think windows are giving you more control over that now. But I remember at the time that was I think just as Windows 10 came out or something.
It was just like, you know what, I have authority. You don't have authority to do this. Yeah, so for you Do you have any pet peeves when it comes to esport casting whether it's what do you see in other casters or just in gamers or anything at all that just makes it cringe or makes you grind your gears?
This is a very specific one but yes when I don't like it when casters try and like predict about five seconds ahead of what's going to happen, so be like this fights going on. Yeah, he's definitely gonna go down. No, he's not. He's not dying. Yes, he is gonna die and that they're trying to predict what's going on. It's just like, take a step back and like, cause what's actually happening? Because you end up looking like a fool.
Yeah, like my question earlier on, but
no, I Oh, that makes sense. Yeah, cuz anything could happen. Like, literally anything usually. Oh, so why not just should say what is currently happening? Because imagine like you're driving your car. You're listening to this. Oh, he might do this. And then going backtrack. It can get pretty confusing. I can imagine. Yeah,
I mean, so sometimes it worked like that. flourish hair in that it can work quite well. But when they're constantly doing it, it's very annoying.
That's completely fair. And on that note, what are some do's and don'ts when it comes to esport? casting?
Cool. I like this question. This is a good one. My biggest don't is don't flame that. Like if a team is losing, and they're doing something wrong. Don't just be really careful. There's a fine line between flaming them and sort of just being like, this is what they could do better or this is probably why it's not working out. So don't flame them. They'll be like, oh, they're playing. So ship is going terribly because this player should have gotten this they're so new bitch. But that's not what people want to hear. It's not a nice thing to do is better to sort of be like, it's not going great for this team. Not sure they're going to be able to come back. Maybe if x y and Zed happens is a much better way of putting it putting it across.
And I would imagine as well the players hear this and it can just get inside their heads and just make it worse. kind of thing
if they want to go through and listen to the replay cuz they can't actually hear it hear it alive okay okay they
don't hear it like so when you're at the actual event they don't actually hear it live they probably either have no
because they're in there they go there and headsets on and it'd be kind of cheating to hear what the other team is going on it's not like I guess what if the headsets were actually streaming your
bigger tournaments they make sure they didn't do that. But they could have the other air pods inside the
the gaming headset. Yeah.
So for you What was your biggest challenge when you first started esport casting,
I wasn't really sure what to cast. And I think the biggest challenge was finding places to cast like finding games to cast because one of the hot like finding it's very easy to find the game to cast you can go up you can open up Dota right now, and I think this is the case with a lot of esport titles. And you can just spectate game, or you can go on Twitch and spectate a game and just cast over it, but it doesn't know emotional attachment to it, you don't really care you because you don't really care what's going on, it's very hard to impart excitement. So it's finding places or games that you where you do care, or alternatively is like, trying to make yourself care about the games so that your cast comes across as emotional and engaging. And speaking of which, was there a game that you wanted to love but just
didn't end up feeling feeling the connection with it?
Like an Esports title?
Yeah, sorry, an Esports title, not just in video game that when you?
Yeah, okay. Make sense? I loved playing Overwatch. Have you played Overwatch?
played a few hundred hours or so?
Okay, yeah, but I found watching it horrific. It's there's, I think it's very hard to follow what's going on, because there's a lot of verticality to the game, which as a spectator is very hard to follow. So if you take something like another FPS like CSGO they've got all these spectator tools to help you follow what's going on. Like you can see behind walls, and like they'll have little lines to show where the players are sort of like a line of sight. So it's very easy as a spectator to come in and see all the action. Was it Overwatch, at least at the beginning, they didn't have any of that and then add the fact that there's a lot of verticality to like the maps, it makes it really hard to spectate. And you're just like, I could be playing this. It's much more fun to play than this to watch. So basically, what you're saying is to really enjoy the spectator or spectating Overwatch is to have multiple screens to have all the viewing angles. They might have gotten a lot better at it now because what is the Overwatch World Cup two or something is happening? I feel like they might have made some improvements. Well I guess we'll have to
check it out once it comes out if depending on when it comes out this podcast episode coming out in a few months if it's already out, then go watch the replay. Yeah Now for a very tough question, but I feel like you know what, everybody's an expert at answering this who's on my podcast? What are some misconceptions about people who do esport? casting?
This is a tough one, because I just don't. I don't think that for eSports classes, I don't think there are really any misconceptions because no one gives a shit about it and just take it for granted. To us, I think the biggest misconception is probably that it's easy. And it's not.
It's a straight up not easy. Yeah, people will say, Oh, you just press the bone and you talk. Well, it's kind of like any type of broadcasting, especially sports, you have to know a little bit of the game, you have to know about the rules, you have to know a lot of details that the general public wouldn't necessarily know themselves, right.
Yeah, I think like the first five seconds are very easy, something I want to cast this to be easy. The first five seconds are easy, and then they sort of like lose track of what's going on. So it starts off easy, and then it gets hotter and hotter.
And the more characters you add in, the more complex it is, that's why I only have one person on The short one, so I don't keep it that complex. If I had a second person, three people, I would get lost so easily. And so for people who might be interested in picking up this hobby, do you have any word of advice for them?
I have a lot of advice. Yes. Okay. Hit me. Okay. Honestly, the first thing is just go and cast, just go and try it and record it put on YouTube, if you really want to, don't show it that anyone, I think it's just really fun to do. It will be goofy to begin with, you will be bad, but it doesn't matter. Because you can have a laugh of it, laugh at it. And but you will get better. So the main piece of advice is just go and do it. There are so many resources out there. One of them which I think is amazing. Going back to what I was talking about before, where it's very hard to find feedback. And secondly, it's very hard to fight sometimes hard to find games where you care about what happens. or finding a game that is interesting. There's this subreddit called Dota two cost it where people go to their post their games that they've played that they think are really fun. And then you can be like, okay, I'll cast it, you upload the video to YouTube and then they will give you feedback. So not only do you have a fun game to cast that you pull up the care pile all about and you also should get some decent feedback.
That's pretty cool. I love that concept. Reddit Reddit is
just such an amazing site. It is amazing.
That's where I found like a lot of my guests and amazing information for podcasting and good on Reddit. Shout out to Reddit if you want to sponsor this podcast I wouldn't say no, I'm just saying but yes, and we talked about this at the beginning of the episode I'm but I'm gonna ask it again because people need to refresh their memory. Do you have any links or websites you want to share that with the people so they can learn more about you follow you support you and learn more about any projects you got going on?
So yeah, my personal Twitter which I use a fair bit is Zan brella one on one. umbrella being my gamertag where I got that is a completely different story.
And the podcast that I've just started is called Search Complete. And you can find that on Apple podcasts or wherever you listen to your podcasts. I'm gonna put all that information in the description below. And by the way, I love the simplicity of the name explains everything and it's perfect. Search completed. It's perfect. I love I love titles like that. But yes, we put that all in the description. You guys can go check it out support my friend Douglas. Yeah, we're friends now. You can't take it back. And I'm sure he'll be more than happy to talk to you feel the same way. Nice. Well, from the UK to Canada, this is over the pond friendship. And now for the last question. Do you have any questions for me about eSports casting,
not about eSports casting but about eSports in general if that's okay. Yeah, absolutely. Am I right and guessing that you are somewhat aware of his sports but not really super into it, but that'd be fair.
Hello. I would say I've been play video games my whole entire life. And I love I watch a lot of Smash Bros. eSports. Okay, so Smash Bros is definitely my game. It's fast paced. I play with my friends, it pumps a little bit. But I always enjoy the casters because I've always been into like, the tour guys, I always like talking and ever since I started podcasting, I shed a new light on the work they put in, and it's kind of cool because I'm like, Oh, I could kind of relate and I see the effort and the energy is just amazing. And they're very passionate, but I wasn't I wasn't at the level you are at. But I'm
pretty close. So I guess my question would be like, the the prize pools for smash is not that high there. No, there are these big tournaments like fortnight and Dota two cs go what goes through your head when you see these like millions of dollars prize pools,
million dollar prize pool, I think was it was it was fortnight, as some One more like coming to
you on 1,000,001 which actually going on a tangent here as he infuriated me. If like people like, Oh my god, these kids are winning so much money, literally for now, five years ago. The same thing happened in Dota. But no one went crazy. Yeah, obviously it's just cuz fortnight is so, so much bigger like everyone is playing fortnight. Not everyone is playing Dota I was just like, been there done that let's let's move on,
don't worry. Four years is gonna be another game that people are gonna complain about. But no to answer your question I want to see let's say these big tournaments with multi million dollars. I honestly it doesn't necessarily bother me, in a sense that I think video games to a certain degree is a skill like the ability to your hand eye coordination, your reflexes, the ability to analyze a situation making a call is a skill not everybody can do it. And yeah, why not? I I honestly have no issue with it. I don't think I would ever go in because I suck. I like to think I'm good, but I honestly suck. But if I were to go into an esport game that it'd be good at. Ah, I don't know Smash Bros on Nintendo 64 now even then, no, not even if I seen videos people are a lot better they have skills and technique I have.
It's insane. Like, this is one of the things that's great about casting is you get to see the action happen right there and then you're like, sometimes, although I don't like to admit it, you are less speechless and you're just there like, What? Oh my god. Honestly, it I guess sometimes the silence adds impact to the cost to be honest, but
actually speaking of which, have you ever listened you've done so much casting on Dota two Have you ever like saw something you're like, Oh my god, I want to integrate that into my gameplay.
Definitely. You think just watching streams casting games see pick up so much. This The thing I found myself get a lot better at the game from casting just because you pick up all these little things. tips and tricks. That's so cool. So so if you want to get better at a game, go cast it because you're effectively going to be consuming more of that content. And you're going to it whether you want to or not, you're going to be picking up some extra skills. That's so cool.
You just talk about it, but at the same time you're learning. Yes, I guess I could go watch some more Smash Bros. Or no Mario Kart in Nintendo 64 I likes Nintendo 64 I still have my original one. And I tend to want to play with my friends after I'm like the first one to die. I tend to like cast their gameplay to get annoyed. But yeah, you know, that's
man. Can you imagine if there was real life mariokart
they do that like spectator sport as a spectator sport. It's not a sport, but you can like there's an event or not an event but the thing you can get go karts and go drive through downtown Tokyo. dressed up in like Mario. Amazing.
Yeah. Can you throw things at
people you throw your throw And bananas are people. I guarantee you I swear somebody must have gotten those cards with a banana peel and just throw behind them for sure.
And then someone runs over and nothing happens.
Oh man, but yeah, I miss my chance to do that. But if I go back to Japan when my wife I would definitely give it a try. If you ever go to Japan, give it a try. Just look up things like Mario Kart, Tokyo and then you'll see a bunch of people pictures of people like in Donkey Kong costumes Mario peach, Yoshi. It's awesome. So yeah, there you have it, another body with a hobby. Thank you so much for coming on. And just talking about one of my favorite things in the world is video games and being a caster is the combination of both, which is perfect. And yeah, just had to tell you so much. Thank you.
Thank you very much for having me. It's been an absolute pleasure.
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