Ep.87 The Thread In 360 (Jennifer - Embroidery)
5:09AM Mar 21, 2020
Good day everyone you're listening to time for your hobby. And this is Episode 87. The thread in 360. I'm your host Alex and today I have the honor to have Jennifer as my guest on the show. How are you doing today? Hey, I'm great. Well, it's great to hear you're great. We had a little conversation before you're living in Texas now but you're originally from the great white up north. I don't want the Great North. No the wait. Up north Canada. We're on Friday.
Yes, yes. I actually grew up about six hours from you.
So you don't miss the snow. Do you?
Not even a little bit. Except for Christmas Day. I missed it on Christmas Day cuz green. Christmases I will never get used to. But with that exception, I'm all about the warm weather.
You know if you could send some of that warm weather this way I wouldn't mind right?
I hear that a lot,
but enough about our cold and just cold, cold cold winter here and your warm, warm winter there. Today we're talking about you, and everything that makes you happy. But before we go into your hobby, who is Jennifer?
Um, well, I am an creative entrepreneur and business coach, I help other creative entrepreneurs take their hobbies into full time businesses. And I also make a lot of things. It's kind of my creative therapy, but I'm married here fell in love the cowboy moved to Texas and we have a couple dogs and a cat and kind of just living my best life.
You just got to follow your heart and wherever happiness takes you, that's the best place to be. Exactly. And before we jump right into the hobby, do you have any social media links or websites or even projects because you mentioned you mentioned you're an entrepreneur. So you must share everything you're working on.
Sure. Um, I right now I'm in the beginning phases of launching a new course for my creative entrepreneur business. It's called everyday boss. It'll be up though, there will be a course coming out in a couple of months, which I'm really excited about. But everywhere else you can find me is mostly at the lottery, which is my handmade shop. So it's spelt k n o TT, Ma Ri E, the notary and you'll find me at the notary calm and at the notary on Instagram.
That's perfect. I'll put that in the description below so people can come follow you and support your journey. And hopefully you guys get in connection and work on a project or whatever people do on social media or just on the internet nowadays. Just get in contact, do your thing, and everybody was happy.
I love collaboration. So hit me up for sure. So this
is what we're doing right now we're doing an operation.
So enough about me talking about my random And rambling, rambling right on to the hobby. Your hobby is embroidery. How did you get introduced to actually before getting introduced? What is embroidery if you were to define,
um, well, it's kind of the art of taking fabric and thread and a needle and creating something amazing. I got my crafty start. I learned from my Nana at a very young age. Now she didn't specifically Teach me embroidery, but it's like the creative genius from her side of the family. I like to say she had we trained him the art of glue gunning by a young age. So you know, I kind of learned that from her. And I randomly decided about six years ago that I wanted to try something different because I sold a lot and I crochet but I was kind of getting tired of doing the same thing over and over and over again. So I decided to just try embroidery, I had threads and I had fabric so I got a hoop to put it in. And I put a design on there and I had a lot of fun with it. And then a friend of mine was like oh my god. That's beautiful. I want to buy it from you. I was like, Okay, so this is the thing that this is a thing.
You learned this from your grandmother, did you have any inspirations of your creations that come from your grandmother? Like what is her style compared to yours?
Um, well, she was kind of like a jack of all trades crafter like she did everything from Christmas ornaments made out of nuts and nut shells to like she would sew Barbie clothes and make quilts. So kind of the jack of all trades crafts I get from her for sure. And it's just more of the love of the art and being artistic with what you have on hand is something that I definitely picked up from her.
And I've been looking at your Instagram. I just followed you probably right before this interview. I thought I was following you, but Well, I am. And I'm looking at the creations you made and you kind of make I would say, correct me for wrong. It's like a meme like funny quotes and funny words like coffee is life and yes, I like that. I like that approach. It's like you bring in a classic twist on an old hobby, but bring like new modern style to a thank
you. I like to mix the sweet up with a little bit of salty and sassy when it comes to the embroidery. There's something kind of fun about seeing such a traditional art form with like a modern sass, right? So, you know, I have some pretty funny hoop art pieces that I've done over the years, and ones that are really popular right now are things like Petey A F,
and well that one
salty A F and you know, people are loving those kinds of like snarky sarcastic things, but in this really beautiful art form. So they feel confident hanging it on their walls, and it's kind of a conversation piece.
It's kind of like one of those things where it's like, oh my God is so beautiful. And there's like, oh, wait a second. What is it saying? Oh,
yeah, exactly. Exactly.
You lure them in with a beauty and then the sarcasm hits them. I love exactly on a personal level, what would you say is the best part about it because it just looks like you have so much passion. It's so vivid when I look at these pictures so for you, what is the best part
actually It's like taking elements of almost nothing this right like a plain piece of fabric. And with a couple of hours and a lot of stabbing of fabric, I can turn it into something beautiful, I kind of joke that embroidery is like my therapy because I get to stab something thousands of times without getting arrested. But you know, it's it's kind of the art of taking nothing, something that wasn't even there. And I have this idea for a pattern or design or saying in my head. And then I literally just create it with my fingers. And it's beautiful to me that I can take like this blank slate and turn it into anything I want. And then the other thing I love about it is I get to play with colors and I rarely will recreate the same piece the exact same way ever. I switch up the colors I switch up like the floral elements or you know, I just make edits and changes all the time. I get bored really easily. So that's partly why I create my own designs and partly why I never make the same thing twice.
Speaking of which, how do you go through coming up with these ideas? Is it just something that dawns on you like, boom, wow, I want to create a new project on this, or is it something that you like, Okay, a little inspiration from here a little inspiration from there.
It's kind of a bit of both, like, I, I rarely sit down and be like, I want to pick a new design. It's more like, I'll be in the middle of work, and someone will say something, and I'll be like, hey, that's, that would be a great piece of art. And so I stop right there and create the pattern for it. Because if I don't, I will forget. But it's it's mostly life inspired, and I really love coffee. So that's probably why there's like 12 Coffee designs. And I should have tied this question to the first one. Do you still remember the first thing you've created like the first cat I wouldn't say a catchphrase but the first words or a sentence that you've created and Do you still own it? Or have you given given it away? I think I probably sold the first one that had words on it. The first thing I ever created, I actually copied from a coloring page and it was two hours on a branch. And a friend of mine would like was upset. with ALS and so she actually bought the very first piece I ever stitched and then another friend The second piece I ever made was like she's like I really liked this idea. What can you do to stay outline of Texas and put a heart over our hometown? So that was the second piece I ever created after that. I don't remember because I got so in love with the art that I kind of went crazy.
So are you only restricted to words themselves? Because I've noticed there's maybe a few other ones as well. But do you only like doing words or do you like doing let's say people or nature,
I haven't really tried. There's nature elements and some of like the floral parts that I add because it typically you haven't seen my work. It's typically some words with like, floral wreath or a floral embellishment of some sort. And but I do do flower only ones which I call my mini Flora hoops, which are probably the most popular thing. I create their little three inch pieces that have a whole bunch of flowers and leaves and stuff in them. But other than that, I really haven't branched out simply because I can't have like my style. And so I kind of stuck with that. But I have had people approached me about doing like a portrait or something like that. And I've kind of shied away from it a little bit just because it's like super labor intensive. The most labor intensive piece I ever did was recreating someone's wedding bouquet. So it was like this really intense floral piece. And it was beautiful, but it took me like 35 hours. And so I was like, yeah, I'm not gonna do this again.
It's interesting. You say that because I think I'm looking at it right now.
The yellow flowers
No, yeah, yeah, this is this is meant to be this is a coincidence.
But so actually speaking of which is so labor intensive. How long does it usually take you to create or not create a completed project?
So the word only projects take me maybe an hour or two. I can typically do them fairly quickly. While I'm just watching TV with my husband. I like to multitask. I can't just watch TV. For the sake of watching TV. I have to do something myself. The ones that have floral elements added to them take a little bit longer because there's like that added extra flourish to it. But yeah, that that reef that yellow sunflower reef or not, sorry, bouquet was close to 35 hours. And it was like, I mean, I was so proud of it and loved it so much, but I don't ever want to do that again.
Well, you know what, this is on the bucket list, check done move on.
Yep, yep. because well, and then the other challenge becomes that I didn't really make any money doing that, because like, I think I charged them like $90. And but I put 35 hours into it. So I wasn't even making $3 an hour, let alone the materials. So, you know, to make it worthwhile, I would have to charge like $500 it's almost a week's worth of work. So you know, there's kind of that challenge in the art that you love creating for the sake of creating and then if someone's going to pay for it, they still need to pay what it's worth to
Could you just imagine if you had like a monthly plan system in place where you, let's say every month they pay you $100, and you only complete $100 worth of the work. And then next week, sounds like a pay as you go. So like, Alright, this,
that, that's actually not a half bad idea. Because then the brilliance in that plan would be that I could do other things in between, because that was the biggest challenge is I was on a deadline to get it completed for a gift. And so all I had time to do is stitch that one project and my OCD crafty brain was like no go so things are time to crochet or maybe you should pick up watercolors. And I couldn't I had to stick to it and be really disciplined in completing this project so that it was done. Because I this is a you know, it's still my hobby. I mean, it's a hobby that I monetize a little bit, but it's still a hobby that I have to do on nights and weekends. So I can't just quit my day job and you know, I still have clients that need me to do what I'm supposed to do during the day? So I mean, if I could, I totally would Don't get me wrong,
I'm not gonna get you wrong.
And well actually speaking of which you see you it's really labor intensive. I said this before it how often during a week would you do it like because you say you do like when you're watching TV is it like seven days a week or you take a break every now and then
I'm gonna say like five evenings out of the week. Although lately it's been mostly weekends because it's football season, we're coming up on the Super Bowl. So that was like my thing. I'd watch football with my husband on Sundays and stitch for several hours. I try to be crafty or creative in some form every single day. It's kind of like vital to my mental health. But I don't always get to do like a labor intensive project or a more extensive project. Sometimes it's literally five minutes of stitching and that's all I've got room in the schedule for, but there's something at least every single day. I wish I could sit down and sit for like three to four hours every single day minimum, but I'm an entrepreneur, I have four businesses including this handmade business and they're you know, there's a lot of demands on my time.
You You have your plate is full, you have no time to. Well, you know, you got time for your hobby. This is why you're here. Yeah, of course. Yeah,
I do have time for that. I just wish I had more. But Don't we all?
Yep, I completely agree with you. And for you, what would you say was your biggest challenge when you first started embroidering
and learning new stitches because I am an expert at this one really simple stitch and I can use it a lot of different ways. But there are so many elaborate, intricate really detailed ways to use your thread and needle and I've mastered a few. But there's some that I would really just love to try and play with. I just it's one of those things where it's like it's like anything new and any type of hobby or skill you want to learn. It just takes time and practice and I kind of am impatient. wanted, I want to create something in a couple of hours and be like, Wow, that's really pretty next. And so taking the time to learn more elaborate stitches can be a challenge for me. If you don't
mind me asking what is the one stitch that you want to master, we just can't get the hang of it.
I don't really know the names of them because I haven't stopped to learn them describe the motion.
I don't even know I can tell you what it looks like on fabric. But that's about it. I've probably self taught most of what I know. And then there's been a few YouTube videos to kind of pick up the difference. The one that challenged me the most and I it took me a while to master was actually the French knot, which I use in almost every piece of embroidery that I create. It's how i.my eyes It's how I add punctuation for most things. And then it's also the center of most of my flowers. And it looks really complicated the first few times you do it because it's this you have to have the tension right and you're wrapping the threader on the needle to pull it through yourself. basically creating a knot with your thread needle, but you have to be able to do it and pull the thread the rest of the way through otherwise you end up with funny loops. So it was a challenge and I ruined a few pieces of thread learning it, but thank goodness for YouTube because I finally figured out the trick to get the tension rate and so that made all the difference
and at this point is just muscle memory for you.
Yeah, it really is because I I've actually done piece pieces that were nothing but French knots. I did Andre ampersand that was about I'm gonna say it's about five inches tall and then it was like a really thick kind of design. And I did it was nothing but French knots and so it was literally I'm going to say like several thousand French knots which is really a really good way to develop that muscle memory
and in the process of developing this memory Have you ever injured yourself by no mean like breaking an arm because that'd be pretty extreme but more like I'm this is like extreme embroidery? I don't know.
Yeah, no, I'm not jumping. airplane and skydiving and embroidery. At the same time, I actually learned the hard way not to roadtrip and do embroidery because needles and bumps in the road are not a good idea. The worst I've ever done is just kind of jabbed myself with the needle. But it is kind of sharp actually, the other night. I don't even know how I did it, but in the jabbing the needle under my thumbnail while I was pulling it through, so that got a good squeak out of me. But you know, it's temporary pain.
Did you get kind of like angry at it for half a second? Oh, okay, now move on.
Yeah, yeah, it was kind of like, what, how did I even sign up?
And on the same train of thought, how many times let's say out of 10 would you mess up not the whole project, but let's say a stitch and you'd have to redo it.
Oh, it happens every few minutes, probably at least a couple times in the course of doing the piece. But the beautiful thing about thread is you just slide it off the needle and back, you know, kind of undo a few stitches and then redo them and it's not. I mean, it's slightly annoying in that moment where you're just like, gosh, darn it. I've been doing this for six years. I should be better than this. But you know, you just undo it and move on with your life.
Has it ever happened that you've completed a project? And when you looked at it, you said, Oh my goodness, I screwed up here. Do you redo it? Or do you fix it? Or you just say, you know what, it's perfect and perfect. I keep it as is
a yes or no, I have gone and fixed things in the past that I've looked at and been like, Nope, that's gonna bug me for a really long time. And then other times, I'm like, you know what, I'm done. I don't care. But typically, I do like pause in the project and actually look at it overall, to make sure that I'm not goofing up anywhere. It's kind of like self editing as you go. Have a sort But yeah, I have a few pieces where I look at it. I'm like, oops. Oh, well.
It is what it is.
Yeah, I mean, that's kind of the beautiful thing about handmade right like, it makes it unique. It gives it a story makes it a little bit interesting and different from every everything else that you create,
and I didn't ask this question at the beginning, but how big is your personal collection, the ones that you haven't sold off,
um, I actually have a piece of display on the wall in my office. It's actually right now it's the first Instagram photo on my feed. And it has most of the pieces that are totally complete on there. And I think there's maybe I'm just sort of counting really quickly here. Um, there's like 15 or 20 at the moment. And then I have anywhere from 10 to 15 that are like in progress. They've either been stitched and they just need to be put into their hoops and sealed or they're half stitched, or I got distracted and forgot that I was making it and started something new, you know, works in progress. But yeah, I have, I have like 15 to 20 pieces hanging in my office right now. Not including the Christmas ones because I took the Christmas ones down and put them in their box for next year.
Which is a perfect question. Do you make seasonal
embroider you? I do. I did some really cool white on buffalo plaid like the Red and Black buffalo plaid fabrics for the holidays and the holiday markets that I went to this year. And then I also sold. I did a wholesale order this year which was new for a shop out in Oregon. They ordered 40 ornaments for me, so I got to make ornaments this year to
us. Cool. So you've made some for like Christmas. He made some for Halloween, I would imagine Valentine's Day or is the fourth of July, stuff like that.
I tend not to get too into the smaller holidays. I did like do a Valentine's one a couple years ago. It was another one of those all of them, like millions of French knots and Andre Hart. That one was fun. And I I'm big into Christmas. So I did a lot of Christmas ones. And I actually did do a Halloween one once and had ghosts on it. And it said I'm just here for the booze.
Oh, I like that.
that's awesome. And I know I usually do this as a follow up question to one before but what is your current biggest challenge?
Um, I guess it kind of goes back to finding the time to do more of what I love, which I'm working on I'm actively working on you know, creating that lifestyle. But you know it's kind of just I wish there were more hours in the day to do all the things I want to do but you know adulting so you got to do what you have to do first and then you get to do the things you actually want to do.
Come on, we're adults we have what responsibilities paying taxes go to work. What is your teeth?
They lied to us when we were young. Yeah, it is not as easy as it looks.
Nobody has anything figured out.
So true. I would be a good piece of art.
Just dot dot dot still don't know what I'm doing.
Has embroidering ever stressed you out and if so, what do you do to relax? Do you keep going out or do you like take a break and walk away and do something else?
I tend to switch projects a lot is like I'm irritated with something or if it's I don't really I get stressed out about it because I really do enjoy it. And it's I call it my creative therapy for a reason. But for example, that really intense bouquet piece that I did, I did have to take breaks and switch to another medium of art. Like, I went back to quilting for a little bit if I needed a break, or I would work on you know, I make bears too. So I would go and make bears or whatever for my shop. You know, I just switched creative outlets when I'm getting bored with it.
And speaking of which, cuz I saw your Instagram you have like these. I think they were like bears and like you were saying and other things like an owl is um, yeah,
it's an LTL. So they go in the freezer, they have rice inside them, and then you use them like an ice pack. So scrapes, bruises, yeah. My whole philosophy on these is kids are already crying and freaking out. Why would you give them a bag of vegetables or give them something that's happy and friendly that they get excited about getting out of the freezer when they're hurting?
That's so cool. I love that idea. Yeah. She has her scare for kids. Yeah.
Well, I mean, my grandparents gave me bags of peas and I and then they would tell me if you melt those, you have to eat them for dinner. So I'd be like, I'm
fine. He's like, you just tap it on your I'm gonna put it back.
Yep. It's fine. I don't want to eat peas.
Not tonight. So this might be a hard, no hard question, but a interesting question to ask. But how much of the embroidery skills are transferable in your other hobbies
and I do use it for like some of my bears. I use will do like smiles and stuff on that. The one thing that does translate over is like putting colors together and creating color palettes and like kind of doing that side of the design. I love the process of picking fabrics and picking the threads that are going to go with it and kind of seeing the idea in my head before I get it on paper and then get it on the fabric. So that definitely translates over to quilting and making my bears and My apples. I just love playing with fabric and doing that mix and match kind of part of it.
And speaking of which, what are Jennifer's top colors? The ones that you love? Oh goodness.
Um, I use a lot of like raspberries like raspberry color, pinks and plums, and teal. teal is like my guilty pleasure when it comes to color,
and we do have a favorite project that combines all those three perfectly together.
Um, my mini florals I like to be really colorful with those their little three inch hoop art pieces that are just packed with flowers and leaves and they just turned out super cute. And I just love making them.
It must be such a relaxing process when you're not stabbing yourself underneath the nail.
Yeah, yeah. When I'm not saving myself. It's great fun.
And what are some misconceptions about people who do embroidery?
I think a lot of people think this little lady's great and they're creating really weird vintagey looking things, I am proud of the fact that I've been doing embroidery for like, almost seven years. And over the last three to four years, I've seen a real resurgence of the art form and people coming out of the woodwork wanting to learn how to do these things. There's a lot of really cool artists and designers out there making really beautiful pieces. But I think, you know, people kind of think we're sitting in the back corner of our home with like, in a rocking chair with a quilt on our lap, you know, squinting at this piece of fabric and doing these teeny, tiny stitches. It's really not that hard. Anybody can learn it.
Yeah. And there's YouTube out there. And it's a lot easier to learn with YouTube. If not, you can contact Jennifer I'm sure she's very Yeah, it should be willing to help out as well.
Yeah, I'm actually hoping to sell and release some of my patterns. I've haven't done it yet. I have working on getting some people to test my patterns and see if it actually will work for anybody to do so. People, they love it, but they don't necessarily want to buy the finished product. They want to do it themselves. So I will actually be able to enable people to create their own embroidery pieces.
Well, in that case for the people listening to this podcast episode right now, you have to do it yourself. And also by Jennifer's work. Yes. Both it's it's a must. Works for me. Yeah, look.
No complaints. No, this is
probably the toughest question I'll have to ask about what has embroidery taught you in life,
patience. Definitely patience. And that practice makes perfect, because if you look at my very early pieces, there's definitely a difference. And I've developed my own sense of style over the last several years, but it's really just a matter of do it. And then do it again and then do it some more until it's the way you want it.
To me your your work is all beautiful. I haven't scrolled all the way to the bottom. I feel it'll take me a while my thumb is gonna have so many features but I've been there for a while. But I have a feeling But the beautiful thing I love is that you kept those pictures up there. And it's just when you go back and look at it like, Alright, this is where I came from. This is where I started. And doesn't sound like you're ashamed of your previous work, you just grow on it.
Yeah, it's, it's, you know, I love every piece that I've created. For the most part. I've loved every piece, some more than others. But you know, it's just a matter of just keep doing what you love until you create it the way you love it. I think back last year, I did this project called Mark meat, the make maker. And it was all about sharing like bits and pieces of the person behind the scenes who's actually creating the art. And I did share some of my like early projects there. And it was just a fun experiment to kind of like dive deeper into the person who's creating what they're creating, as opposed to just looking at all the pretty pictures. And
this might be a weird question. I know I'm doing all these weird ways of presenting a question, but have you ever done emotional embroidery? So let's say you when you're angry Oh, angry. Oh yeah.
Oh yeah, I kind of joke that sometimes my fabric has imaginary faces on it. And I get to stop them. If I'm frustrated, like, oh god stab you. A pretend there's a person on there. Yep, I've done it. Okay, well
remind me to be on your good side. So I'm not one of those faces that appear on there. Totally good. And have you ever taught embroidery to anybody that is still doing it today.
not officially. I've like helped a few people learn a stitch or two randomly, but I'm actually gonna be teaching my very first embroidery class on the 13th of February in Grapevine, Texas. If anybody in Texas wants to come hang out with me, I get to teach. We're going to be doing an embroidery necklace project. So that's gonna be a whole lot of fun. Gus dough,
man. You're so like passionate about your hobby that you're teaching in a class? Yep. Unfortunately, this episode's coming out in a few months. So by the time they listen to this, well, it's their fault.
Your next class
I will Definitely be doing it again. So if you it's way past February 13, just check out my Instagram, I'll probably be talking all about the classes that are coming up.
So what we've learned today is that you have to make your own stuff by gender first stuff and go to the classes. These are mess. If you're listening to my podcast, you have to do it.
Well, he said it not me. Yeah,
that's okay. some random guy who sounds pretty authoritative. I don't. I would listen to me.
Do what Alex tells you?
Yeah. And then do what Jennifer tells you by what she teaches you.
Hey, I'm all for it.
Nice. So do you have any word of advice for anybody who might be interested in this hobby?
Do it just do it go to Hobby Lobby or Michaels or whatever craft stores near you. You need three things. You well four things. You need a needle, you need fabric, you need a hoop which are readily easily available at craft stores and you need some thread and then go to the internet, watching YouTube videos, whatever you got to do. The simplest stitch in the world is called the backstitch. Just creates a nice straight flat line. And you can create almost anything with a flat stitch. So just do it and go get those four things, take an hour or two and have fun stabbing fabric.
And on that note, what would you say is your preferred tools like going because I'm sure they come in different material, but whether it's the type of fabric or the type of needles, I could be wrong, but is there one that you prefer using like short needles, long needles, or
I use a longer needle that has a narrower eye on it, the eye of the needle, because it just flows through the fabric a little nicer, it's a little bit thicker, but you can just go like any fabric store or craft store will have a needles and it'll have a section that's embroidery needles, so you can kind of just start there. It's really a personal preference for how it feels in your hand and how it goes through the fabric. But I love DMC flosses, which is the threads that I use mostly, and quilting cotton is my favorite fabric to quilt on and then there's the You know, some debate among embroiderers, what's better a plastic hoop or wood hoop? I personally prefer wood. So I just think it's a nicer look. And it feels better in my hands.
So that's what I prefer.
And speaking about this debate per se, how is it How is the community around you?
It's pretty supportive. It's pretty awesome. I have some friends that are also do embroidery. And you know, we're always bouncing ideas off of each other. And it's great because we all have such unique senses of style. Like, my we could do the exact same phrase, but they would look completely different because of, you know, one friend versus the other the way we incorporate colors or do our flowers, they would look 100% different. So there's really it's more community over competition, which I love.
And I'm sure you guys feed off each other on teaching each other like oh, well, this is something I learned or this is a thing and sharing material wisdom and good times, obviously.
Now if we talked about this at the beginning of the episode, but I'll mention it again. Do you have any social media links, websites or projects that you would love to share with the listeners.
Yeah, you can find me at the notary.com and also the notary on Instagram and Facebook and Etsy. I'm on all of those. And then you can find me at everyday boss.com. And that's where I talk about being an entrepreneur and pursuing my creative dreams, living my best life and how I juggle for businesses. So I talk about that a lot there. And then, you know, I hang out on the internet a lot. So come find me. We can hang out.
That's how you found me. Yeah. And this is how we're having a wonderful conversation now. Yes. And then the next step. So we'll ask Jennifer, how does she balance for businesses?
Hey, I'm all good. I'm game. Yeah. would you sum
that up in one word,
Perfect. That's that's perfect for me. planner. Can I use that too for this? Yeah,
Okay, perfect. Now for the last. The last question is one that I asked is Not well, it's specific to every hobby. But do you have any questions for me about embroidery?
Oh, gosh. I don't know. I don't I don't even know. Would you ever try it?
I eventually I would like to give it a try. If not try, I'd like to see somebody do it. Yeah. And if if something I'd like to do is probably the logo but I feel like that's could be a challenge for especially for me for beginner if I had my time for your hobby logo, so I might have to watch.
You can do it. You just need to get a bigger hoop so that it would be easier to do the smaller pieces. You wouldn't want to do that on a four inch hoop. You'd want to do it on like a 12 inch hoop that would be the only advice for that one
for a first second I'm I'm thinking like even bigger like no Javelin made that minute or I just have like a hoop this aside his size of like a swimming pool and just
the outer circle on the trampoline. Yeah.
look ridiculous doing it but yeah, it's gonna be fun. I guess I'd like to give it a try. If I had one I have time. I would definitely like to see somebody do it to teach me the ways because I think Like, you would have to have patience, like you said, in order to do it properly and I have a feeling that whoever starts will mess up. So it's a being able to see your mistakes and just correct it without trying to stab yourself underneath the thumb. Right?
Well, maybe one day when I go to visit family in Canada, I will arrange to teach a class and you can come,
I will bring all my material and just look worried when I come through the door and you'll be like, yep, that's Alex.
I know him.
He's gonna mess up. He's gonna come out with bloody thumbs. I'll bring band aids, you'll be fine. Good, good. We're well prepared. So yeah, there you have it. Another body with a hobby. Thank you so much for coming on and just preparing yourself for me if and when we meet and bring the bag. I'm excited. I will try to hurt myself to a bare minimal so I don't lose my thumbs. I kind of need them, you know, as a human. Yeah, they're important. They're important. But yeah, thank you so much again for coming. On no problem I had fun. So if you guys want to learn more about Jennifer, you can go check her out in the description below. I'll put all the links there. So she'll be easy to find. You can support her send her messages and just even collaborate, cooperate, collaborate, I can speak and make something beautiful together. And if you'd like to be on my podcast or have any questions at all, you could send me an email at time for your firstname.lastname@example.org. And of course, if you think this episode's gonna be helpful for anybody, by all means, share with them. Maybe embroidery is the right solution, just creating something beautiful, releasing emotions, you don't even have to have emotions to do it. That sounds weird saying that you can just be neutral. You don't have to be angry or sad or happy. You could just have you know what I want to do embroider right now. Just a neutral emotion, if that's the thing, but it's very enjoyable. Jennifer has proven that by answering all these questions with passion, and of course, if you like this podcast reviews are always great. I would not reject reviews whether it's good or bad, positive and negative I want constructive criticism is always good. To help this podcast grow not about my guests about me, my guests are all fantastic. And as of today or a couple weeks ago depends on when this comes out. I'm selling merchandise on redbubble of my time for your hobby logo for things that you didn't know you didn't need. Yeah, exactly like a shower curtain bathmat coffee mug, okay, you'll need that because if you're doing many hobbies, you'll need a coffee mug to stay energized like that. 35 our embroidery Just saying.
But enough about that. I just have to say thank you so much again, Jennifer.
No problem. Thanks for having me. So Until the next episode,
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