Greater and Lesser Conversation
3:27PM Jul 18, 2019
Slowly but surely, I guess. Okay, so I want to talk briefly about the great conversation. And I also want to talk about the disputation. So here we go. Right. If you weren't asleep already, you're about to be. So Here's the deal. If I could put my class in a nutshell, what am I trying to argue? Here's what I'm trying to argue. I'm trying to suggest to you that the that college is best treated as a conversation. Here's the cold, hard truth. You could take my class for five weeks and say, well, kind of like the guy who's funny tell good storeys, But You know, it was all horseshit. Now I'm going to get my grades and get my degree and get out of here. And you know what the truth is, you'll probably be okay. The truth is, you'll probably be fine. If you go and cheat your way through a certain couple of classes, get your degree, you might go find a job, you're probably going to be okay. But to me, there's a big difference between doing that and terminating and going towards a point and being successful. What I'm trying to suggest to you is, there's a better way to do it, a more fulfilling way to do it, a more humane way to do it. And The more humane way to do it, is to treat it like a conversation. And If you can treat it like a conversation, you can have access to college in a way that you hadn't before. And what you'll find is all these areas of your life that you've kept separated for 10 years, Here's School, Here's job, Here's social life, Here's online life, all these different areas, you'll find that they all operate according to the same exact same conversational principles. And then if I can get you there, maybe I might be able to move you a little bit further away from thinking algebra is awful. Yeah, exactly. If I can get you to the point where there's something going on in algebra that may be conversationally interesting, or may arouse intrigue in you. That's where I want to get you to the How do I do that? I have to prove to you that everything is an argument. The reason conversations exist is because there's always arguments being made. And This is what you're talking about your critical thinking class, right? You're talking about proofs, arguments and critical thought and syllogism, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But What I'm trying to say is that everything, everything is an argument, nothing is not an argument, even small talk. That's What I have to prove to you. The difference between me and every other professors. I'm admitting that I'm trying to argue to you, they don't admit that they're arguing. So I want to kind of explore this very briefly, for example, I want to talk about the things that are relatively innocuous. Do you know what innocuous means? means like, not doesn't matter not not just irrelevant, but they're not harmful. So when you say, for example, to be inoculated means to get a vaccination to prevent you against something, it just means it like pacifiers the sickness or prevents the sickness. So Sarah, so you would think for example, evolves cap, Some of you are wearing Vols materials. Some of you are wearing Tennessee stuff, other kinds of representational clothing, you would think evolves cap was just you always hear this yd wearables correct? Well, I just like it, Right? Or I don't know, it's just my style, or I just got up late in had to cover up my hair or it? Well, if I asked about fashion, people would say, well, it just depends on who you are. Well, I'm going to say that that's absolute rubbish. I'm going to say that's poppycock. Right? Tommy roads, as they would say, in the Motherland, that the vault cap is actually making an argument. Well, what defines an argument? You typically think of an argument is something where there's a contentious relationship between two opinions. They're doing battle. In fact, we often think of argument is kind of a war. I'm not I'm saying the exact opposite. I'm saying that what an argument is, whenever a claim is made, this sort of this should be this way, or this is true. Anytime you're making a claim? Well, the question is, what is the vault cap claim? when someone walks in the with the balls? cap? What's the claim?
Yes, that there's some relationship
of identity. Meaning What? I in this organisation and this group are associated.
Right? And if you don't believe that,
Then go put on a cap that says, that has a swastika on it. You're immediately going No, no, no, no, no, don't say that out loud. Right? Because you know, good and well, that what's up there has something to do with your associations. And eventually, you start throwing out the old hats in your closet that don't loan longer apply to associations. The vaults cap indicates an identity relationship, so much so that people will use that as a means to connect to the group in a way that even if they don't have a monetary relationship, you all consider yourself Vols because you're paying money. Right?
But there's a
60 year old hillbilly out there who shows up to Neyland Stadium and cooks hot dogs. And where's the exact same shirt as you and identifies in the same way if not even more fanatically? Because they're trying to associate with the Vols. you following me here? No. All right. And Here's the point, that argument that the Vols cap is making to you, By the way, this whole industry depends on it, you go over to that building next door, the unit, you go downstairs, There's one room that's full of arguments, it's called the vault shop, walk in there and you can feel the weight of the agent orange rush over you have like that we're great. We're important in Ba ba ba ba ba. At some point, let's say take it away from balls. Let's say it was You're a Knicks fan, or you like some other organisation or maybe it's like you have a Gucci hat or you have not that doesn't, who's the one that has the backwards sees like that? Chanel. So you're a you're a Chanel fan, and you've got that on your hat. People who tell me it all depends on who you are, quote, I just like it, I think, Did you like it when you were a foetus? Right? Course not. At some point in your life you didn't like it didn't like it didn't like it, boom, started liking it, which means at that point, you embrace an argument. At that point, whoever was wearing the Chanel, and whatever their body represented, and whatever desire they provoked in you, You brought embrace to their claim. And you put on the Chanel hat too. So nobody quote just likes it. That is just stupid. Right? It doesn't happen that way. Again, we go back to the things that are closest to us and don't even know that they're there. So what I'm trying to get at is that if this is an argument, If a vault camp is an argument, and and so it was biology class, The question is what claim is it making? That's what we're asking. Here's another example. You know, the LIVESTRONG bracelets, the yellow ones, the back here and Lance Armstrong. What's The ostensible argument or the claim that it's making?
What's the claim that the LIVESTRONG brace it makes
it was back when
Lance Armstrong was a cyclist and he had cancer prostate cancer, I think maybe. And he they started a movement where you would all wear these yellow if you went and bought something at Dick's Sporting. Excuse me, Richard sporting goods. If you went to there and then you bought, Richard, Forget it. So you, you you go to the sporting goods store, you buy tap, You could also pay $1 to get with these little yellow bracelets like WWJD. Right?
You had what are they call? Go Jim go.
I'm lost on that claim. I have to go GM go. What does that mean? Okay, okay, Go Jim. Go. I'd like to have one of those. So If back back then The reason I point this one out, excuse me was huge. Like all these stores are having your yellow everywhere. Now do I think for one second, that an eight year old boy who has a yellow band on his wrist is like interested in cancer research? No. So What's the claim that the yellow bracelet makes on the playground?
Maybe maybe that his parents are supporters? What else?
Yeah, but it's not just cool. It's more than he just likes it.
It Associates him with a certain level. If you haven't, you're in this level. yet. And if you don't have it, you're not in that level. I mean, you go to any playground, and you can find some kind of Garner or tool. That's why these weird fans, like little things that go on your shoe laces, right, or also these strange bracelets, or stickers that people put all the way up their arm, and they don't really have their original purpose. They're all there to distinguish who's in and who's out. My Point is, this has two layers to it, doesn't it? on one layer, the claim is by this and support cancer research. But over time, that layer changes in the claim changes. And the claim is get this to be a part of something. And if you're out what's wrong with you? If you don't buy the bracelet, you start to feel like you're doing something wrong. Isn't it weird? Like somehow you're immoral? Suddenly Girl Scouts make you fail? Oh, you're not gonna see. So You mean, you hate
little girls? No, I didn't say that. I just don't want your cookie.
Right? You there's something that happens. There's a real force to it. So Let's go the next one. Now, back when I say this on a downloaded tune, When I was buying music, it was CDs. So originally CDs Records and even iTunes still has this, I think the little label that says explicit lyrics. Now. What's the claim? Yeah, that's the open one. But Now let's go. Let's go step further. Let's go step further. It means more than that now, though, right? Because what is the structure of the label?
What colour is it? grey, it's black and white.
It does look like a barcode. The letters are really pronounced in bolted right there. Like imagine that the label for explicit lyrics was yellow. And I had cursive writing on it. Nobody would take it seriously. Right? In fact, a film came out a couple years back straight out of Compton, about that, and the label for the film. Was that Why? What does it suggest? What's straight up? What's NWA famous for?
go further, they didn't really make any
part. Keep going. They didn't really make any mad buddy mad until they did this. You know, fuck the police. Right? When that song comes? When that song comes out, everybody gets really nervous. Right? So What's the black and white image? Look? It's rebellion, Right? It looks like resistance. So the people who produce the film capitalise on that image, right at the same time that you're seeing Black Lives Matter. Right, as you're starting to see civil rights movements pop up, you see the Ferguson thing happening. And so producers are grabbing that label and going this label claims resistance. My point is that it's not just oh, there's cursing, it's so much more than that. And that claim gets into your skin, even though you don't see it happening. So let me jump ahead to a couple I don't want to do the health warning one look at this one will skip the health warning. Rolex money immediately you don't say time, the obvious one is? Well, it tells time. But you all know that's not it. It's prestige. Immediately the claim is if that's on your wrist, you are in a different playing field. Now, it's not. I'm not trying to gripe about money. Here, I'm trying to show you that what we think are just pieces of fashion furniture, or just labels on a CD, or just a cap that I pick in the morning are all in their own way somehow connected to some kind of argument, some kind of claim. And that's what I'm trying to prove to you. Your professor is always always making claim is always making claim. They're claiming you should feel this way you should believe this. For example, let's think of the most scientific things I could possibly say such as the sky is blue, right? The most banal things, but what's the obvious part of that claim? My blue or your blue? Right? Who's blue is what we ask. You've done that in high school at one point or another, like sit around think is my dream, their grade, what I call green is purple, and what they call, you know, that everybody goes to that one point in their life. The Point is, that your professors always making an argument. So to enter into a conversation, whatever the conversation is about whatever text it's about, whatever claim it's about, what you're doing is you're engaging that argument. And that doesn't mean that you're disagreeing, it means that you're trying to figure out what the claim is. Let's look at this last one. What's the mall? What's the claim of the mall?
Shopping by stuff.
Now, you're pressing further, Now you're seeing that there's a certain prestige about it. But this is the beauty of academia. in academia, you can take the conversation, just like we did with the man jumping out of the plane, if you press the questions, more specific and more general, back and forth, if you stretch the questions, you can find things you hadn't seen before. For example, have you ever considered the fact that the mall is structured like a church? So think about an ancient, think about an ancient Cathedral? Okay, you know what I mean by Cathedral, big long hallways, On the sides of the big one, hallways are stained glass windows, usually with people on them. And Why are those people there is so that the people in the church, Look at them. And they are heroes or heroines, right? They're famous figures that you look at, you think I want to be like them or pray to them, Right. And at this other end of the church, you have an altar. And usually you have a priest sitting here somewhere, And everybody's listening to them. And there's usually a big vaulted ceiling in the cathedral. So it's high. And that architecture is designed for your eyes to go where,
Because what's supposed to be up there?
Well, not in the mall, but in the cathedral. You Well, the what the God, whoever the God is, you're up there looking to the heavens to find that God. And notice that the mall is structured exactly the same way. There's glass all the way down the hallway there big, huge, long hallways, These are windows with people in them, but they just happen to be dummies, and they're wearing clothes. And you're looking to the side at these marvellous figures of excellence that you want to be like. And hopefully you'll go off into this little alcove and you'll study them for a little while. And there's a huge ceilings in the malls, they're really high, There's windows up there. So you can look up into the sky. And it moves big groups of people up and down this hallway. And at one point during the year, The great Bishop will come to the church. But at one point in the year, the great Bishop of the mall will show up, and he'll sit back here. And we will welcome him. And He will give us gifts and we will take our children to him to be baptised. What's his name? So exactly right. He sits at this into the hall in the great Cathedral of shopping, and we bring our children and we stand in line waiting on him to bless our children, right? And send them on our marriage, their merry way all being put into this right now you can disagree with this. But that's the purpose of the conversation. The purpose of the conversation, is to ask better questions and better questions and better questions and better questions to look at it again. And again. And again. And again, again, because you're looking at the claim, the claim that the mall was making is, here lies social power. Here lies excellence, Here lies elitism. Well, that was the claim of the church for many generations, too. And the point that I'm trying to get out here is that if we can engage the argument, all of a sudden things are really interesting. Now, let's look at one more. So What do you think about the Mormon Church? It does, it's kind of weird, huh? So let's look at game day, in about three weeks, four weeks? Oh, whatever. It's something like that. No, it's probably more like six, You're going to this place will be just covered in fans. And you will have started your booze fest on Wednesday. You know, by the time you get to Saturday, you're quasi sick, but you're excited about roasting hot dogs or whatever. And you're going to have game day. And you're going to notice what everybody's going here. Right? Whatever, However, it's gonna look okay, everybody's going to that thing. And What's the ostensible, which means apparent claim of Game Day, what's the claim? Yeah, we're gonna win What else? We're in this together. It's great to be involved. And there's usually chance like that. It's great to be right. The cheerleaders are there to remind you of what the claims are. That's what's really wild about football games. It's like they're actually screaming the claims at you. Right? Go balls, and you're like a robotic go. I was like, Yes. Now we got our claim in them. It worked is amazing. But what if what if we were able to academically enter into the conversation and ask better questions and better questions, if that's the claim. That's the text, we enter into conversation. And we do what we did with the man that died in the night air. And we can really stretch our questions, we can start to see stuff, which is fascinating. A lot of people in the ancient world, or a lot of researchers, anthropologists have pointed out this sports in the ancient world were a form of worship and religious ritual. So you used to play sports in order to please the gods, There's an old mind game, where you would throw this ball around and kick this ball around in a circle, kind of a pro soccer. And imagine all your seats were totem poles. And this mind game was played in the midst of all these totem poles with these dudes, and their phone is ball around. And the goal is to get the ball inside the mouth of one of the totem poles, and the top of the totem poles represent the deities. Well think about what the game is supposed to symbolise, what's the ball? It's the Earth, Right? For a planet, The gods have brought the earth into existence. And now this ball is like the earth moving around the space. Right? And the gods are watching. And the gods want to be pleased by this. Okay? And so in the ball goes on the mouse, even in the Olympics, right? Why do we call it Olympics because they did not allow to Olympus the gods are watching the contestants perform feats of human strength. And if any of these contestants can prove themselves to be excellent, They almost rise to the state of half God like Hercules, you follow? Now Look at this. Now you go to an arena, All these guys are going to march down this pathway. We call it the vol walk. Right? They're going to enter into this Coliseum. And the peasants are going to come from far away to watch. Okay, And down here on the field, they're going to engage in a pretend war.
With this army in the visiting army will face one another in battle. And they were performing over the course of two and a half hours. And they'll do it all to the pleasure of the gods who are perched up here. It's just the gods now no longer are Zeus, but Coca Cola And the other agencies that are putting money into this system and waiting on some of these heroes to rise and to be immortalised. And also the people that are up here in the press boxes, the wealthy, the royalty are watching so that they can approve of this activity are not approved. Now If you don't think for a second, This is not militaristic, ask you to consider who's walking in front of them. before them, You know, you hear him coming. Yet the band Just like a Revolutionary Army. I mean, they might as well have like Fife and Drum Corps and be wearing red and blue. And doing like this all the way down. It's like the army is coming. This is why in Scotland, you know you in the Army or the clan is coming. It's always the dude with the stick and the bagpipes are coming. It's a war cry. It's why in New Zealand, football, you have them doing the haka. You know, they're out there doing like, Yeah. Right, because it's like, here we come. We're about to fight. It's like a rooster or peacock picking its feathers up like, here we go. And they do it exactly like that. The war comes, the soldiers are coming, the band enters. And what happens on the field, they make this gigantic team made out of that band, just say, Oh my god, Here we are, we have gone, We have arrived. And we have this war. And then we go on about our merry way. So you take all of this, you go, oh my god, I thought game day was fun. And I quote, just liked it. But you are participating in a gigantic claim of war and battle. Now, what's really cool is that academia is this beautiful opportunity to look at this under five different conversational lenses. The anthropologist is going to look at this and see an ancient religious ritual. The psychologist in the psychology department, they're going to look at this and say, what's happening? neuro chemically in people when they're cheering, like what endorphins are released, What is their own personal experience with trauma and pain and blah, blah, blah has to do with their desire to watch this. The Economics person is going to sit back and look at this same text and say, Let's ask the question about what the economic implications are about how much money is pumped in versus how much money is pumped out. What Akademi is doing is academia is a place where you take the same phenomenon or the same text and you ask it so many different ways. And that's what's good about it. And If you don't think the geometries have anything to do with this are the mathematicians you bet they do. In fact, look at the field that they're playing on. It's the one thing we don't ask about sports. What is soccer? What do football? What The What is basketball? What do they all have in common? They have a court and particularly what kind of court? What shape is it? That all rectangles. And if they're all rectangles, What automatically has to happen?
They have to hit each other.
Right? You're coming from one side to go that way. And that group is going from that side to go that way? What's different about baseball,
Right, It's a piece of a circle.
So if you take a cut of a circle, a slice of a circle, that's what it looks like, a little bit of diamond here, round edge here. So The game is structured differently. Here's my point. Depending on how you ask the questions in this conversation, It changes the way you're looking at it. That's the gift of academia is that that is an argument. The question is, what is it saying? What is it claiming? And how do I engage that argument? That's the benefit of it. Now, I imagine that most of you have not seen game day like that before. Am I wrong?
have not typically don't look at maybe, maybe you're kind of feeling it. My Point is, that's not absolutely right. My interpretation is not absolutely right. Right. But what I'm saying is, that's disputable. And dispute does not mean you walk in and go that's dumb. I don't agree. That's not dispute dispute is pruning, it's like shucking corn, it's peeling apart, It's taking the thing and opening it up and looking at it. That's disputable. It may be different. Now, it may not be that way. But that's what academics supposed to do. You are given for years, the idea should have been, You have four years to talk about stuff. That shouldn't be the idea. But that's not the way it feels, Of course, just feels like you have to go places all the time. We'll talk about two more things. disciplines are defined by their questions. And when I use the word disciplines, you used to call them subjects, right? Math, Science, disciplines are just different angles of looking at this. Are you following me? Yes or no? Okay. Now, that being said, it will help you engage the conversation for any class, if you can figure out how they're looking at it. The way to get comfortable in physics is to try to figure out how they're looking at stuff and what questions they're asking. So violent take physics as a whole. What question is physics asking?
What is calculus? calculus is the main instrument of physics. What does it use? That's true. Most of you probably don't care for physics or calculus, I assume. Okay. But in and that's what's tragic, is that if you had a sense of what it was doing, it might be more interesting. If any of you ever heard of Zeno's paradox. Okay, what is Do You know what, what it is? Okay. Okay, so here's what it is. If I have to move from here to the door, Do it. Yeah. If I have to move from here to the door, or to the wall? Do I have to go halfway? Yes or no? At least to get there? Yes. But in order to get to the halfway point, Do I have to go halfway from here to the halfway point? Right, If that's the if that's the halfway point, And I'm at least gonna have to go to the halfway point don't have to go from halfway from here to there to which means in between that next point in May, there's another halfway point and another halfway point and other halfway point, and I'm halfway point, which leads to the problem of Oh my god, you never move anywhere because you always crossing half points. Okay. That idea could really problem at ised motion for a long time until Newton. And Godfrey lightness come along and they develop calculus. calculus is intended to describe how an object moves from here to here. It's that simple. All physics is concerned with is what does it mean to move? Guess Why you didn't see that. Because if this is the conversation of motion, Here's the tiny little assignment that you were given and problem for on that page. That's all you could see. I want you all to go home tonight, two problems, six, seven, and nine. So You're home and you're just Zika. Your eyes are so locked down to this that you can't see the big picture. A lot of times the professor can see the big picture. That's terrible, but it does happen. So physics is asking, What is motion? What is sociology asking? Yeah, what does it mean to be in a group? associates literally means friend. So sociologists gonna look at and say, What do you mean for these people to be in a group environment? What does it mean to be a part of a gender and ethnicity or race or tradition, etc, etc? What's biology asking? Yeah, What is life? And oftentimes biology studies life by examining what kinds of things Yes, but particularly what kind of animals Deadwood Well, dead ones often, right? It's It's weird. We study life by studying dead things. But that's what it's asking. Right?
But even before that, even beyond just chemicals, even beyond that, What do we say when we say why they those to have chemistry? Can I connexion? Right? All chemistry is asking is how to two things become one thing? How does this thing in this thing go together? It just so happens that it's expressed like this?
You know, I don't even know what they are.
You know, like, Oh, God, I hate that. I don't want to do any more of those. All that says is Adam And Jessica.
You know, whatever. The Point is, it's the same principle. If you can see the big picture and the big conversation for those disciplines, you can walk into a room, You don't have to be an expert at it. You don't have to have it all figured out. But you can at least engage the conversation. What's psychology asking? Right? Even even more, maybe even What is consciousness? And you ask that because it's weird, like psychology can borrow from biology, right? They can say, yeah, and sociology, but it also doesn't need them. Because now we're trying to figure out if things that aren't alive have consciousness, namely, what? What, what's the current study? What are we trying to figure out? Whether has consciousness? No, because it's alive? I'm talking about something that's not alive and never was? machines? That's the big question. I mean, think about what you call that thing in your pocket.
But a particular kind of phone.
smartphone, we use psychological terms to describe it. We use terms like what does it want? The phone won't let me do this. What does that Right? What does it mean for it to have a want? And so it's asking those kinds of questions. What's architecture asking? How do you build space? What's engineering? Asking? How do you cause things? engineering is more than just studying water? It's like, you're not just studying how water flows. You're studying how to build something to make the water flow that way, which is why we use the word engine. Right? How do we cause it to happen? How do we put it into motion? maths are asking different questions about number, religions, asking question about religious practices and beliefs about the divine history's asking another kind of question. Now, why is psychology? Gold? I'm going to show you one more principle. Okay. Hang on here because I think you'll find this really bizarre, but also fairly interesting. Here's the point that I'm trying to make. every discipline is a conversation. But remember how I said you can have general questions and specific questions about how we were doing man in the night air and I said, ask more general ask more specific. Well, if psychology is general question is What is consciousness? Then some people in some places are asking more specifically. So the big conversation about psychology is consciousness. Right? But inside psychology, There are few people that start to pop up who have been talking about it.
There's some big ones, like Freud. Look on. Yeah, that's true. behaviours type stuff. I'll put them in there for you. Skinner. Stanley Milgram,
Okay, so you have all these names. And what you typically do is when you're in a class, you're given those names and you fill out like the bold definitions, bold, copy it off a football,
copy it y'all know that stupid
procedure. But what you're missing is those are conversationalists. Those are just people who are not in the conversation now, their contribution, the conversation is recorded in books. And so you're engaging conversation that's been there a long time before you. And If you can zoom into the conversation to more specific questions, then you can actually peel apart the text even more. For example, everybody's familiar with let's just go into this just a little bit. All right, and watch how it comes all the way back to your life. You'll think this is so bizarre and it's nothing to do with my life. But I'm are walking all the way back around. What's Freud's main two issues, right? You have two drives, What are they? Sex and death, Right? You have arrows and Santos right, which are two Greek Brothers, by the way, and you either long to create things or destroy them. And Freud thinks this comes from a moment that he calls the primal scene. Does anybody know what happens in the promising because we're about to talk about genitals. The primal scene is in. Here's What here's where you have to get past your prejudice. When I say that a baby think something. You're thinking like a full blown adult. But thinking doesn't always happen in your brain. It happens in your skin, for example, like the vole hat, You didn't even know you were thinking it. It was just happening in your body. Well, Freud's argument is that a baby has a primal same. And the primal seen that their baby witnesses is a phallus. You know what, to kind of do any to draw a picture of what this point remains. Okay. You have a phallus and a mom without a phallus. And those two objects, those two people, You See, this is going to become one. And he says that the baby so traumatised by that and confused by it, that it's spinning sense of rest of its life trying to figure out that problem. And It figures it out through two drives, it either wants to two objects to come together, arrows, or death, Right? One of those two things. And he says that's how civilization on works. He says, so all of you have a death drive and a sex drive in you. But guess what society is not going to allow you to just participate in that you can just go scrawled anything that walks, right, and you can't just go kill anything that gets in your way. So he says society has to develop the systems call of that sublimated, which allow you to participate in the drive with it being socially acceptable, for example, football. If you have a death drive, then you do like this pretend death in football or video games. It's a way for you to flush that desire out a little bit and get the pain out of your system. Or you watch dirty movies, or you Florida whole bunch, you're trying to get those desires out of your system, and they're socially acceptable. Now, that's Freud's idea. But watch this. This is the fun part. Jacques Lacan comes along. I know I'm losing you, But if you'll follow me just carefully, look on comes along and says, you know, Freud's right about one thing, Freud's right that whatever happens between the mom and the baby's really important. And he says what the difference is, When mama has the baby for the first time, The baby's main problem is it's the first time it recognises that there's a difference between I and you. When The baby's inside the mama, it's black, it's dark, it's chaotic, it's loud, it's warm, it's messy, and it's and there's no such thing as I, you or me, It's just us. Got it. But at the moment of birth, the baby is traumatised. Now, we often think of birth, this beautiful moment. But if you've sat in a birth, it's traumatic, and it's bloody, and it's messy, and there's a lot of cutting. The babies separated and there's a huge gap and look on says the baby always wants to go back to the mother for the rest of its life. And the way the reason it does that is that it thinks that if it can get back to the mama, then it's alienation, its sense of being you and not us will go away. It has pain. And it's gotta go back and look on actually saying that throughout its life. If that baby goes and gets married, that it's doing this Freudian principle where it's supplanting it wants to go back to its Mama, but it's mom is dead. So it's got to get a stand in. You married your mom? It's exactly right. Is because you need Yeah, you need Well, you're, you're not marrying your mama, though. That's The difference is that you end up marrying another power figure. That's that's the psychological psychologists would say, Well, I mean, I don't know your sexual orientation. So I don't know who you're marrying. Or even if you want to, so I shouldn't say that. But here's what's interesting about the con, don't just give out on me yet. Okay. So he the baby wants to get back. The baby wants something from the mother. But he says the conscious, This river of this gap right here is filled with desire. The baby wants to go back across and get into Mama, but it can't. It's on permanent detour. So It's looking for a mama for the rest of its life. A minute learn something because mama does have desire, who does mama desire. Daddy, this guy?
Right? Mama desires Daddy.
But Daddy has something that baby doesn't have. And baby can't figure it out. So look on his saying foods right? But let's go further. And he says photos right that there's a relationship between mom and dad and baby. But what is the baby want that the parents have they have something baby doesn't have any idea what it is, The baby doesn't really start getting it till it's about two years old. has to watch it until it figures it out. Keep going.
Right? It thinks that the only way to get back to them to rejoin to them is to be able to share in the language that they have. Because the everything that those two parents have a structure by language. They can say milk, they can say bring me the clothes, they can say Don't talk to me like that. And the baby can't just yells and screams because inside here it was fed inside here. Hey, everything that it needed, and it was separated from its source of life. And now it thinks I need to get that in order to get back. So look on thanks. The whole life of the baby is just trying to get back to mama through this long detour of language. And The reason that's a detour is because every time you try to describe something, you realise you can't describe it completely. So you gotta describe it with more words. For example.
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Okay, so there's two places or you want it back out this way.
If you go down the steps once you've done the steps in a little tiny hole over to the right