Board of Police Commissioners, Evening Community Meeting
11:30PM Jan 12, +0000
Speakers:
Jim Holley
Commissioner Ferguson
Commissioner Bernard
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reporting in progress Ryan Ferguson
is meeting one now. My name is Brian Ferguson.
Me All right.
Yeah. Okay, let's try this again. My name is Brian Ferguson. I'm Border Police Commissioner chairperson and this meeting will now come to order and we have invocation done by Mr. Pastor George Williams is the year yes. Good evening.
Good evening.
May we pray, Eternal God we thank you for this day. We thank you for life, God health instrum. Now God we ask that you will allow the power of your Holy Spirit to rest upon this meaning God that you will facilitate the conversation and that God the will your will will be done so that the police and the city and all will be blessed and natural will will be done. We ask God that you will use this board beyond their experience and their education. God will give them divine wisdom as they make decisions on tonight and henceforth, we thank you for these and all of the blessings in your precious Son Jesus name, amen. Amen. Amen.
Thank you. Thank you so much. Mr. Brown, and adduction of Commission's Yeah. Good afternoon, Mr. Chair, Burton sippers and Brian Ferguson here by CNE hope. Good evening. I'm here with Mr. Linda Barnard.
Good evening out the mighty district to Linda Bernard attorney Linda Barnard President accounted for it's great to see
you this evening. Mr. Cedric banks. President MIT district three
if your district man, man he has to
listen to Jim Holley President Mr. Willie Bell Mr. Willie Burton president this Elisa Carter admission Ricardo more
President represent district seven Detroit's West Side
Mr to Commissioner Jose Hernandez excellent excuse commission will quarantine Presley
Mr. Chia, you have a quorum.
Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Brown. Now like to have a approval for the January 12 2023. Agenda.
Support. Any discussion?
All in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye. All opposed. Okay, that will be approved the approval for the minutes for January the fifth 2023.
So moved
Mr. Chairman with minor very minor typographical corrections.
Second, no substantive changes. No substantive change? Not any
No, no. But the typographical error where I was at at and we'll clean that up real quick,
right? Where were those where was it at? Where are they? The era?
Well, just it's just grammatical. I can tell you exactly.
Where it was one line item.
It's not even a line item, Mr. Chairman is these are just minor formatting, really things. For example, item for chairperson Ferguson call to approve the agenda. It would be chairperson Ferguson requested the approval of the agenda for Thursday, January 5, things like that. I mean, I said minor, very, very minor, but to make it clean for the public for the future. That's all
okay. Noted. All in favor, aye. Aye. All opposed. All right. With those minor changes, we will approve those minutes.
Mr. Brown and adoption of the LPC staff please.
Yeah, good afternoon, Mr. Tear. Currently with us is Ainsley Cromwell. Attorney Adam Saxby, HR director Katrina Pattillo. John Jana would miss Candace Hayes.
Pamela King
investigator Ellen Ellen counts and at this time, Mr. Chair, that's all I see. Okay.
And for the VIP.
You have in attendance Lieutenant Mark young LSA president, Mr. Don Johnson. 12 precinct committee relation President
Miss Murray overall
of State Representative Tyrone Carter's office media service.
During the video,
Sergeant Alan Quinn and corporate Torres is doing the audio. Mr. Don Henley side is the court reporter. And Miss sign language interpreters this Yukata and I don't see Miss Dr. BDS is at this point.
Thank you. Oh, we have sitting in for the Chi
Shan Sam's deputy chief for Western operations is sitting in for Chief Jamesy. White.
And who do you have with you?
In the audience? I see Mark young he's the president for the lieutenants and sergeants Association. Also have commander Kurt warboys for the 12th precinct who will be providing a presentation for you later in the schedule, your agenda. And then we introduced and then I was gonna let him introduce his staff and his presentation, but we have Sergeant Shirley Bledsoe, she's over the MPOs at the 12th precinct, we have MPL Buckman and NPO Crowder in the back.
All right. Thank you. Thank you.
Before I make my remarks, I would like Commissioner Bernard since this is her district would like for her to have some opening remarks. Well,
ladies and gentlemen, it's first of all, it's a real pleasure to be here with you this evening. It's a pleasure to represent you. We have a mighty mighty district. We're the number one voting district in the city. We also have a number of other obviously, as you know, attractions and things that are unique to the city, like Palmer Park, and all the things that we're doing there with respect to, you know, having a new bandshell put over there and everything that we're going to be doing as well as what we're doing within the community. But I know that you're most concerned about crime issues within our district. Unfortunately, a number of the more recent shootings that have occurred in the city have occurred in our district. Our commander commander warboys, would you stand please, sir, thank you, is the commander of the 12th precinct but for your information, District Two includes not only we includes the entire 12 precinct, but it also includes parts of eighth the eighth precinct, the second precinct, and the 10th precinct. So this area is one that's pretty insular. It's an area that is an old part of Detroit that has actually stayed the same for more than 30 years, 40 years probably. Now, and so it's a pretty safe area but, but there are issues mostly related to gun violence, which are most disturbing to our residents and to our community. I'm not sure that there's a lot that we can actually do with respect to that other than probably getting, if you will, all the guns off the street, because most of these crimes are personal in nature. They're not random acts of violence. They are A against B or C against D. So there are people who know each other or have some kind of business or other relationship. Having said that, we're vigilant about it. I'm vigilant about it. The board is vigilant about it. Our city council person, Miss Callaway is extraordinarily vigilant about it. And we're all working hard to try to make sure that everyone is safe and secure. So if there's anything I can do for you, personally or professionally, please let me know my personal cell number is area code 313690 2500. Again, 313690 2500 If you call me text me and let me know as you have, you're from District Two or whatever, so I'll just think of spam. But feel free to contact me. If there's anything that I can do or that the board can do. All of us are here to serve. There's no question about that. We all believe in servant leadership. And, and and you are the persons that we serve. And we do so with honor. And with pleasure. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Thank you. You're welcome. Now, you call her that phone's gonna go off right now. So please, a couple of housekeeping. So if you have a cell phone, please mute your cell phones or put it on silent and help us go through this. And I'm looking around the audience and I see some people I haven't seen in a long time, but I keep running into them. One is Miss Kennedy.
I'm Miss Kennedy. I know you're looking at me like who is this column?
You're probing from district seven.
I know Miss Rowley, I'm sorry. Miss Roby. I remind you of Miss KV.
You know, who I am right now. I know. Oh, Hello, Miss Parnell. And now Parnell Yes. Yes, well, I
want to say thank you for the city of Detroit and no bus activity center for having us here this evening. This is a beautiful place right here. I was just telling you a couple of people. It's been a minute since I've been in this building. I used to go and play a little basketball and then go into the auditorium but this really did a good job. And renovating this place. And I really love it. This is this is neat. And I want to thank everybody for coming out. Little rainy and little slick outside and you took a chance on coming here. But I want to say thank you and I'll make sure that you make it home safely to once this meeting is over with. Um, for the record, I want to say that Commissioner Presley has entered the building. And also on a record I can see Commissioner Carter is making our way to the table at this time. So for the record those two commissioners have been present right now.
With that being said that was my chair report. And now we have a resolution
thank you for the honor. Resolution,
honoring neighborhood police officer, Malin, Melanie, Melanie, a Malone. Whereas Melanie a Malone was appointed to the Detroit Police Department on June 26 2000. Upon graduating from the Detroit Metropolitan Police Academy, police police officer Malone began her career at the 11th precinct patrol operations section. And whereas she dutifully served the 11th precinct Northeastern district and the 11th precinct again. Police Officer Malone displayed tremendous diligence and aptitude in her assignments. In May 2017, she was appointed to the rank of NPO. neighborhood police officer MPO Malone continued to serve at the 11th precinct until her return. And whereas during her law enforcement career, she was the deserving recipient of both consent judgment awards. The Major League Baseball All Star Recognition Award, the Rosa Parks funeral Recognition Award, the Super Bowl 40 Recognition Award and the board fireworks award as well as commendations from supervisors and numerous letters of appreciation from the citizenry. And whereas neighborhood police officer Malone has tirelessly served the Detroit Police Department, the citizens of Detroit and neighboring communities for more than 22 years. Her professionalism, commitment to public service, integrity and dedication have been a credit to the Detroit Police Department. She is highly respected as a consummate professional. Now, therefore be it resolved that the Detroit board of police commissioners speaking for the citizens of Detroit and the Detroit Police Department awards this resolution in recognition of neighborhood police officer Melanie a Malone for more than 22 years of dedicated and diligent public service, professionalism, integrity and life and lifelong commitment to the city of Detroit and its residents merit our highest regards. We thank and congratulate you neighborhood police officer Melanie a Malone
to the chair. Yes, I move
that we place this resolution honoring neighborhood police officer Melanie a Milan in the archives of the board of police commissioners
Is there a second? Second? Any discussion? All in favor, Aye. All opposed. If there'll be entered into the record, congratulations. I'm
support Mr. Chair. I'm sorry.
We have another housekeeping. If you want to make public comment. Please see Mr. Brown at the table corner table right there. Public comment you have two minutes to speak.
Deputy Chief Good evening through the year. That evening evening. Departments report is as follows.
There are currently four members of the department who are out disabled and recovering at home due to on duty injuries. There's one sergeant from the second precinct two police officers from the seventh precinct and one police officer from the ninth precinct. As far as our COVID stats go we have 90 members that are currently off quarantined and are isolated and 15 members of 15 of the quarantine and isolated members are currently positive. Last week we were at 17. I crime data as of Wednesday, January 11 2023. We are currently up in homicides. Plus for last year, same time we were at six I'm sorry plus six last year this time we were at six this year we had 12 for non fatal shootings. We are up nine and a half percent last year we were at 21 year to date currently we're at 23 robberies we are up 100% Last year we had 28 This year we had 56 and we are also up overall in our part one crimes going from 906 to 1031. are mental health related calls for service in the last seven days. We had 73 for mental non violent 29 for mental armed 108 for mental violent armed 32 for suicide and progress 61 for suicide threats for total of 303 calls for service for mental health related crisis or significant events. Incident Number one is going to be a fatal shooting involving juveniles that occurred on New Year's Eve. Around 11:42pm. Our scouts from the sixth precinct were dispatched to the 5700 block of Southfield at the hawthorn suites hotel to investigate a fatal shooting. Upon arriving on the scene officers discovered that a party had taken place at the location and a juvenile attendee of the party was shot and killed. No adults were present. Officers review video footage of the look at the location and observed for males dressed in blue jeans and dark color hoodies firing shots into the location and then fleeing from the scene on foot. Officers from DPD homicide unit conducted their investigation following up on evidence recovered from the scene, video and witness statements and were able to detain a juvenile suspect for the fatal shooting. The juvenile was charged as an adult with the homicide on January 10 2023. On Wednesday, January 4 around 4:42pm officers from the 11th precinct were dispatched to the backyard of a location in the 8000 block of East Hilldale Street to investigate the report of human remains discovered by utility workers. Upon arrival at the scene officers observed what appeared to be a dead body partially buried in the backyard of of that location. With the assistance of the FBI the body was exhumed and taken to the Wayne County more to determine cause of death. Currently DPD homicide unit is investigating this crime and is seeking the assistance of the public in an attempt to discover what happened to the victim. We are asking for anyone that has any information related to this event to contact Crimestoppers on Tuesday January 10 2023. At 3:27pm officers were dispatched to the 16,500 black approvals were man shot. I was just discovered a crime scene and spoke to witnesses who directed the officers to for your street. There the officers observed the victim suffering from multiple gunshot wounds. The officers began their investigation by speaking to witnesses and canvassing the area for video footage. During the investigation it was discovered that the suspect and the victim had gotten into a verbal altercation over car parts, resulting in the suspect shooting the victim. After gathering the information the suspect was then was able to be identified and arrested by DPD officers and taken to the Detroit Detention Center for processing. Charges are expected to be given out today but as of my reporting, I have not received that information. On a positive note chief white held a news conference on Monday January 9, to discuss our crime stats for the calendar year of 2022. And although this year we're up in a lot of the categories. At the end of the year, we saw 11% reduction in our part one violent crimes, which includes homicides, rapes, robberies, aggravated assaults, and under the aggravated assault category is a non fatal shootings. several media outlets were there and reported out Fox two news Fox Two Detroit WW J local four news and w x y z channel seven Action News one yesterday and we just had a resolution and presented for neighborhood police officer Melanie Malone. She had her retirement party at the Farwell recreational center. And then today we have the 12th precinct presenting to you to our community, their crime strategies and their crime stats going forward for this year. And that concludes the report for the chief.
Thank you. Thank you.
Before I entertain some questions from the commissioners, I would like to recognize Miss parks will now parks are missing out on you. Um,
Commissioner. Thanks I'm all set. Today I mean for right now. Commissioner Bernard. I mean Commissioner Burton. Yes, Mr. Jeremy. Any questions?
No, not at this time. I'm actually pretty satisfied. I love the leadership. You are, you know you displaying this year and I also support our chief here and the great work her man and her team and the women of this department is doing we off to a great start to the members that are fantastic.
Commissioner Carter. Commissioner Holly,
no question, Mr. Chairman, I asked for like they have a request went through the Chair. Mr. Adams, can you your your order was not as good as it is at the mic. Just to go over that piece about the 15 year old that I want I want the community here. What took place within that particular a situation with the city to go in and spend a budget so an apartment building in apartment. You just go to the mic there and
are you referring to the shooting that took place at the heart of this week? 15
year old I don't know what you're getting me wrong. I'm
sorry. Yeah, too. Good deal. Is it the location I spoke about today? Yes.
You know, my, I just want you this. I want to make sure you hear this
and that was the incident on New Year's Eve. Correct. So on New Year's Eve, that was be December 31 2020 through 22 at 11:42pm at the hawthorn suites hotel. There were multiple juveniles involved in this incident where they went to that location fire shots, and to one of the hotel rooms striking a juvenile and killing that individual. Through our hard efforts, our homicide unit, along with other officers working that scene was able to identify and detain a juvenile suspect and that don't have the juveniles age, but he is a juvenile. And that juvenile is being charged as an adult for that homicide that took place and that the charges were given on January 10 2023.
Thank you very much. Thank you, but emphasise their 15 year old. Yes. And basically beeping back and forth, goes off. Five or six people could have been shot. I was the one who was killed. Yeah, if he went back to his house when not knowing that thinking about the fact that his use of social media with track him right where you went back to, which means how silly some of these young people are, you know, and any of the things that they do without really thinking. It seems to me but I just wanted to just That's my my request. My comment, Mr. Chair and I and I know how other people feel about all this. I'm not going to deal with it but I just want to let people know on this in the auditorium and on the air, what to pay a 15 year old charge as an adult. Yes, sir. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you, Miss chip. Allow me to do that. Yes.
Mr. Presley.
Thank you, Chair. No questions. Mr. Moore. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I see the chief Okay.
Can you check on the status chief of a report that I requested prior to break in regards to missing persons, specifically young ladies in the city of Detroit, I think I refer to it as an epidemic of young ladies missing in our city. And I wanted some research done so can you please check on the status of that?
I will. Be see.
Thank you, Chair. Thank you, Deputy Chief. What I'd like to do is pose some questions to you that came from the neighborhood safety meeting. That the chair and I attended in district one precinct eight. And I noticed your on your ComStat report. You do not show the make or model of cars that have been stolen. Is that those statistics that DPD managers?
We do have we do have that information through the Chair. Yes, we do. I'm sorry, again, please. We do have the information on the type of vehicles that are being stolen. Yes. Is it on this report? It is not.
Okay. So how do we get access to that information?
We can get you that information.
Okay, good. I appreciate that. And then second to that the comment was made that I guess precinct eight no longer has ComStat meetings, who organizes those meetings
to the chair? Do you mean the community ComStat meetings, right? The eighth precinct can call those meetings if they wanted to have one but I know we were working on looking at a community ComStat on a quarterly basis for all of the precincts so that we are in the process of revising that so as soon as we're able to get that completed, we'll make sure you have that information.
Okay, thank you for that. And I'm at this neighborhood safety meeting and we shared that shot spotters was being installed in the neighborhood. And even though the chair and I tried to rebuttal that assertion, the curiosity just couldn't be squashed. So is it possible? Or and I know the PD has given presentations on ShotSpotter given presentations, but this community is requesting if we could have someone come to our public safety meeting and make a 15 minute presentation on ShotSpotter. Okay, that's possible we can
we can arrange that right because I think they think anybody can make these buttons and they want to know specifically like how they're being installed and where,
right. Especially the curiosity about how even DPD does not know where the sensors are.
Okay, okay. We can have someone clarify.
Okay. Thank you. Thank you for that. And I believe that is all I have to say. Thank you again.
Mr. Bernard.
Um, thank you, Mr. Chairman. A couple of things. In my opening remarks I talked about the increase of, of gun crimes and so forth within this district. And as I look at the data, it's even more troubling. For your information. And you already know this Deputy Chief criminal homicides are up on the west side and on the east side. sexual assaults are down. That's the only category that's down on the east side and the west side. Aggravated assault is up
robbery is up. Burglary is up. larceny is up.
Robbery is down slightly on the west side. As his larceny motor vehicle theft is up east and west side. The hard one violent crimes that we're talking about. Homicide, etcetera aggravate those are all up east side and West Side. These this is the data, the actual data. And I believe that this data and you can correct me if I'm incorrect chief. I think we use the we use the FBI data the state police data
or just our own data. This is the department's
data.
This is just the department because usually criminal statistics are maintained by all three. So this is DVDs data. This is
DPD data, but it's reported up to those agencies.
Non fatal shootings are up of course, as our carjackings, I guess the word to the community and I'm sure you're getting as our chief is that we have to be increasingly careful because all of the indicators are that it's going to get worse before it gets better because of issues regarding poverty and other things that are really social issues within our community. I urge everyone in this room to to be to stay aware, both personally as as well as in terms of your community regarding these issues. And I know commander warboys and the other officers in the room are acutely aware of it. But it is dangerous. There's no question about it. And all of the data indicates that it is so we've just got to be more vigilant and with the issues concerning poverty and inflation etc. It could get a lot worse a lot quicker. So hopefully that won't occur. But when I want everyone to, you know if you will woman up man up and see if we can do what we can to stop this and take guns away from people if you know of anyone that hasn't. Yes. Oh, thank you. The police come pick it up from you. They don't care. You don't have you don't have to keep the gun and anything like that. They'll take guns. I know no questions asked. Am I correct Amanda what you don't have to care about doesn't matter. 20 to 48 whatever it is. Just hand it over. And that's it. If your kid son daughter, brother, sister, niece nephew has a gun take it. You don't know what happened to it. What I don't know.
Turn it in. Okay. Wow. All right. Um, what I'm hearing it's, we're all in this together, right? Yes. Everybody in this room.
has an opinion on how to make this stop. One thing we all can agree on. We're tired of it. So some has to stop. There's stuff out there to make and stop. We just have to have that conversation to make is that right? And it's an uncomfortable conversation on on so many levels, right. Some people say oh, you can't lock them all up. Yeah. Well,
no, no, no, you can't write
a good conversation right or you can lock them all up. That's the lawyer talker. Right?
Um,
can you can you take away all the guns? That ain't gonna happen. It just caught a guy making guns in his house. That's, that's kind of hard to do. You, you just have to make sure you put the word out
that when you do
something wrong, there's consequences behind it. And you got to stand behind those consequences. Quit smacking them on a hand and letting them back out on a tether where they cut it off or even leaving on and commit another crime. That's, that's just bottom line to it. And I think if we did that and stand behind our decisions, and I think a lot of us will slow down. That's just my soapbox. I'm Mr. Brown. Oral Communication.
Good afternoon, Mr. Chair understandable board. There are currently eight speakers for communication with five of those in attendance in our call those first, Miss Victoria Shaw, followed by Mr. Don Johnson to our free thing. A community relation President and Mr. Miss Laura parks
Good evening, honorable board. Good evening,
happy 2023 For the record. My name is Victoria Shah district seven and following up on the recommendation I made in public comments on December 15 for Bo PC to collect community policy feedback for the new non lethal weapons that VPD recently announced. I'm sure I'm not sure when DPD will be sending those new policies to be LPC for review. However, B LPC should start to coordinate with the community now on a robust strategy to obtain meaningful feedback. Please see the proposal that's been passed out to you today and also copies available for public attendees. The proposal includes reaching out to all district managers to get contact information for all community leaders, reaching out to each leader to invite them to partner on this initiative, meeting with the community leaders to align on the best ways to get feedback from their groups such as surveys, focus groups, attending groups meetings, door to door canvassing, etc. and then implementing a multi channel approach leveraging the community leaders as the spokespersons to get the community to participate. We have to remember that these leaders already have rapport with the community. As a community leader in district seven and having relationship with some other community leaders, I am offering my assistance to push this effort forward. I really appreciate all of you striving toward meaningful partnerships with the communities in Detroit. Thank you so much. Have a good
evening. Good evening and welcome. Good evening,
sir. And happy new year to all. I am Dan Johnson, president of 12 precinct community relations. And ladies and gentlemen, I come before you because I am so fired up because of the 2020 election. 2022 election. And the power that it has given the state of Michigan. It is time for us to request more police officers and give our police officers better pay. Now we control the House in the Senate call your senator. Call your congressperson call somebody because folks we haven't had this kind of power in 1314 years. I also want to say to you that I thank God that they got a great contract to police officers, but they need help. And we as part of the community are going to go and really, really recruit people and make bulk clubs. Accessible again, neighborhood association, we got to get involved roll up our sleeves, but being a man with your neighbor and speak to him, okay, something has got to happen else. The City of Detroit is not going to be the great city that it is our mayor is doing what he can. I police chief is doing what he can and that's the two wonderful officers that we had. Amanda Sands was command she's Deputy Chief now and we now have commander warboys and he has an open door policy as well. Folks, we got to roll up our sleeves and work together. I wake up every morning crying and thanking God for water router and the UAW. come on folks. We got to do our part. They can't do it all. I thank you all for being here. Thank you for coming to our house. To have this meeting. And I hope that we will see you soon. Thank you Mr. Ferguson. And company.
Thank you. This parks Yes. Good evening.
My name is Laurie parks and I am a Detroiter. So I was wondering, one question I had was about Dwayne Jones, the officer who had the incident in the hospital with the young lady I was wondering if any of the commissioners been to his hearing? Or have you or have you not been to his hearing? Because you know, he had got promoted after hitting the woman in and receiving hospital over 13 times with officers there. And he she was already handed over to the receiving hospital staff. Also, the meetings. The meetings should all be held in the community. The way Coleman Alexander young, the great mayor of the city of Detroit had the commissioners meetings designed was to have them in the community is no way that I will come to the police headquarters. And I have a lot of complaints about officers and talk about them. At the headquarters. That's another the police have received the race and I'm thankful to that because we are very we are in competition with a lot of other cities. You know they come here and they get our training which we paid for our citizens and then they go back out into their community and then become police officers. So that that's another that's a concern. Anyway, I think that for you guys, I'm guess you all are happy new year and another thing is, I know that the police commissioners are supposed to be citizens that were never supposed to be police officers whether they were retired or either on the force. That's another incident that people in the community have been looking at so I thank you very much for taking my
comments.
Mr. Chair, your next three speakers would be Mr. Taji Vernon, followed by Miss DeVito Johnson and followed by Miss Kim she Roby.
Just the sound at all because it's so muddy. Big Room. So much bass. Oh, boy. Yes, sir.
Okay. Oh, yeah. Okay, thanks. For adjusting this now. My name is taki Vernon. I'm a mistake against anybody. District Two lifetime resident except for a couple trips out of state and school and stuff. And currently a member of Team Callaway. Council member Angela Galloway's Community Engagement Manager person I prefer person so just wanted to let my presence be known. I try not to sneak around kind of introverted um, this is my first meeting this sort so came to learn about what you guys do. And if I had to make a comment, and I don't know how much time I have left out, but don't run over
two minutes. Okay. If I had to make a comment one minute and seven seconds now
6754321 No My comment would just be that I empathize. I empathize. I mean, I grew up in the city of Detroit over on Sixth Marlon Jr. I grew up probably with what could be considered a standard or normal and unfortunate relationship with police officers. Um, but in growing up and becoming older and wiser, and a few of my friends joining the force seeing just the the types of things you guys interact with day to day, and how that must I mean, I was ready to cry just hearing about the things you talked about New Year's Eve. So I can only imagine and I just want to say thank you and I hope you all are getting the support as mentally physically financially. I hope we're getting towards that, to do that job and, and have those things on your heart constantly. So thank you to everybody here My name is taki dish representing for district two city council for Angela Callaway and I can see the rest of my time to the table. I heard that on a
Johnson. Good evening, everyone.
Happy New Year. My name is Steven Johnson and I'm from garden hose. neighborhood and this is my precinct 12 precinct. I just I have a couple of concerns. I have the concern about people speeding and running the red light on wow me and Chippewa as well as Wyoming Seven Mile it's just really disgusting. How people we got the speed bumps all over on chip while same thing, but especially on the streets on seven mile two and wound. I mean, no one respects the lights anymore. It's like people got brain dead after code and then forgot how to drive and I'll also have a complaint about I am president of TI you will see over on Grand River near Joy road. Same thing folks up and down speed from 60 to 70 miles an hour. When we have event and a lot is crowded and people park across the street. You know they are scared to really go across the street. You know we make sure we have somebody that escort our ladies and even gentlemen, because people just speed it's like you know we need police officers just like Don just said we are in short of police officers in this community. Not only in my community but also over there in that precinct in the tent. I think it is a temporary thing. Also, we got a complaint about folks over from Garden homes and saying that we can't get hold of the community police officers in the 12 precinct.
We got a prop
not only folks down my street on Kentucky and Chippewa folks have a problem I even at the last minute I tried to call folks get hazel to put it on I neighborhoods Service website, Facebook as well as a website to get people to come today. So when person they can say that they got a problem and also I've got a problem with all the precincts different precincts my girlfriend precinct is over there on West Grand Boulevard. They meet in person we have the met in person, but we can have a different events over to 12 precinct.
Okay, your time is up. Okay. Thank you. But wait,
hang on. So
I can name
neighborhood police officers. I think one of them is sitting in the back. Right over there. Okay, you can go back there. You got two of them right there. Walk back there.
They all back they actually I see him today. Naturally. I was gonna see if you can have that conversation with him right now but I just want to make you all know Okay, especially my Commissioner right and Linda Benard No.
Well now we know okay to get you some him no crowd. Okay. All right.
Thank you. Thank you, sir. I'll be happy new years to everyone.
As I sit here, I'm really glad to see that we still and happy to see that we still have a police commission. I've just been thinking about Ron Scott, as I was sitting in the seat and about his work and how important the commission is where we can solve as citizens. Our challenges just in general, and the sister in the red I don't know her name, but I really appreciate her comment about having citizens more citizens on the on the Council on the Saudi commission. And then lastly, I just want to say the police can't do everything. As a matter of fact, I really believe that more so than focusing on focusing in on the police solving. The social challenges that we face is for us to turn to each other and engage more in community to reach out to young people and share our wisdom with them. And really just really, really with each other. That has been my experience in terms of how to turn a city around and you know, we all used to say when it used to be like this when we sat on the porch and we used to know each other. The only thing that stopping that culture and what we use to experience is us. And I can't tell you how many wonderful things young people are doing that would really be great if I showed you and told you because I work with young people a lot and people in community, what the our young people are doing if we focus a little bit more on that and help them get to those places. I think we can eliminate a lot of the challenges that we're confronting right now. So I would love to have more commissioners focus in on how we not to police that the police as support but not as the solution. Alright, thank you
Mr. Chair. Your next three speakers will be Miss Ed Lee Payne, followed by Miss Nicole small followed by Mr. Alonso stall.
Good evening commissioners community. Again, my name is Edith Lee pain I serve on the board executive board along with Don Johnson in life and many others of this greasing. So again, welcome. The last time you saw me was last January when i Welcome to I think I was the only member able to get here but as you see I'm late because there are just not enough hours in my day. But I wanted to again address a manner that I have brought before this. This board this body for a number of years now it's been since 2008 And I know you like everybody here does not like to see these lawsuits or fortunately we're not a litigious family. But when our finest Detroit's finest in turn to a home and remove money that they should not have removed and then falsified documents on what they removed. And then have us go through city council commissioners, different people to say first one thing and then the other bottom line, the money still has not grown return. And it is a policy issue. So even if we filed litigation, which we don't want to do, it's only $3,500 We just want that back but we also want you to fix the policy that deals with forfeitures. So I have copies of those things I have one for each of you to look at. And one some or all of you are welcome to contact me and I will speak with you at length but we really need to get this done. This city has paid out billions in lawsuits. And while I've been referred Commissioner more, you asked me why I keep coming because it's not resolved. And as long as it's not resolved, it's going to continue. I just want to fix that's how I like I want it fixed. So I will give this to your secretary whoever that is there's one in here for each of you. And I look forward to hearing from as I said, one some or all of you. Thank you so much.
You can hand it to Mr. Brown,
right this this ball chair. Can
I say something real quick? I've never seen it for you not to come to the meetings with pain. I've talked to you before about this issue. offline. So I've never told anyone not to come to a meeting.
Okay. All right.
If your contact information in there too. Okay. Thank you. Hi, good evening, everyone.
I definitely want to echo the sentiments that we need more officers in the community. I'm someone who is not as supportive facial recognition, I think is very dangerous to have technology that falsely identifies African Americans that have 70% or higher rate in the blackest city in the country problematic. Also find it problematic that the solutions that we are finding that are supposedly to prevent crime are really reactive instead of proactive ShotSpotter. Yeah, I guess it's great, but by the time it works, the shots have already been fired. That's a problem in our community. We need more officers, instead of spending 8 million and all of these millions of dollars on his technology that really isn't preventing crime. We need some money to truly invest not only in the officers, but proper training. In addition to that, we need to make sure that we have officers in the community that understand our culture, our way of life, but we need to offer them some incentives. It costs a lot to live in a city I know. I say right around the corner. And what you get in return isn't always the best incentive. So those are the things I would ask you to think about. Maybe doing something about reducing insurance rate for officers so we can get some to live in the neighborhood. But all of this facial recognition and ShotSpotter is not working. They are not preventive measures. So please consider that. Thank you.
Thank you. So you seen blesses people.
I am king Yadi. And my question to y'all do any of y'all know me?
know that's our problem.
Are the lady talking about joy need to get with the youth. For five years I've been in my district in my neighborhood, buying abandoned properties, training the youth, mentoring the youth and also making sure they are have something else to get into through my five years moving back to Detroit and doing this work. I don't know if none of you had a meeting with the mayor. I've been on the State of the Union address. I think that's the first time that Michigan seen a young black man from the community. Do you recognize like that and you're still don't know me? But I'll keep talking about the youth and what they doing? That's the problem. I'm not here to complain or make no comments. I'm saying what are we gonna do? I'm gonna do her. I don't have a nonprofit. I spent all my own money. I spent all my own skills. I went to school. And got my license and everything that I teach these young boys. I got boys licensed up under me. Even young men. I got woman out there. So I know I'm doing more in my community than y'all. We had a drug operation going on my blog, I gotta remove. You have Bloods and Crips on my blog. I gotta remove. Haven't been no shoes on my blog. Haven't been no robberies on my blog. A boy from Detroit projects. Did that.
Thank you. I look around this room. Where's the youth?
Y'all quit the locker mug shot spotter I carry a gun. I protect my neighborhood. When shots firing y'all come up. Y'all have a problem with me. My nephew just went to jail because he's protecting our neighborhood. And when I talk to you, I'm the young man that call and talk to you. It's tricky everyday using now all y'all I have no problem with cops. It's tricky to use. I know some of the law. I don't know all of the law. So when I talked to you, I said how do we come together? Teach a young man how to move but we all grew up in Detroit. Y'all know our relationship. Y'all don't like us. We don't like you're my father taught me that. His father taught him that and we teaching everybody that?
Yep. All right, you're right. That's your time. But let me say this. When we talked on the phone, right we have some homework we both had to do. If UK, Russia, you work out the other part of the homework. I asked you I said Do you know who your MPOs is your neighborhood police officer. You said no, you're honest. Did you find out now?
Which one is mine?
We're gonna introduce you to him. You're gonna go right back man to do it yourself. Right now. I'm gonna do the education piece for both of us. Right because I'm here to help you. I'm, I'm from the neighborhood too. Right. So those are some of the things you get to and we can help you
I can help. This board can help you. Yes, go ahead.
I'm really intrigued by your your conversation. I'm, I'm 79 years old, so I'm antiquated. But what what can you can you take it one minute. What will you kill me? What is it that I need to do? I hear what you're doing. You also indicated that that we are not it. Others? I was I felt like you would say to me that I'm not doing it. We're not. I'm asking what can I Oh
no, it's not that is the relationship. That's what we need. Yeah, he said it's a lot of young men. A lot of young women do a lot of it. Rather than me telling you what to know me. Come ask me I want to build a portfolio. I want to build a program to bridge that gap. I want to walk down my block with five or 10 Cops and let's do something when we see y'all we run y'all got something called a gang unit. They jump out to kill to beat and to harm us and our mind and I send up a jollies but in our mind when we see them guys, we run and that's why. So I want to see your presence there like my presence there. I used to live on 22 mile because we were scared to live in the neighborhood. So I said we can't have that I got to come back to my neighborhood and I stay in my neighborhood. I stay on the block that I bought and raised. Wait, I want y'all to do that.
You got Commissioner Burton.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I just want to say sir, we all applaud you for coming to the border police commissioner's meeting today. We all want to be able to reach back out to you and and assist you in the best way that we could possibly can as as elected officials. I want you to know every board member on a sitting here at this table and even those that may be excused today. Every one of these board members are leaders. If they were not a leaders, they wouldn't be here. This city is is is a growing city. We understand that. We have a lot of members in our community that wakes up every day in pain. But that's why we're here to have these conversations. That's why we have great leadership. You have a great neighborhood police officers that's assigned to this preset you're going to meet them today and build a relationship. I believe you. You spoke with the chair and I believe the chair is going to introduce you to your Commissioner for this district you you are in a great position by being here. Today because you're going to walk out of here with some relationships that can turn into something to really help uplift the community that you serve in in and that I like to leave you my card and it just build a bridge from district five over to your district. But I want and I know I'm over my time. I just want you to know that. Our Chairperson Mr. Ferguson, and our Vice Chair Miss Annie hope this is a great leadership great team between these two individuals. And what they are doing to serve our community as a whole. You're gonna be very impressed with their story, how they got to the board in the things that they have done in the community and still continue to do and along with our chief here who's sitting in for the chief assistant, Chief Deputy Chief, Sam's
Cray person,
you're gonna want to know her and how she have built positive inroads with our community. And as well as the police academy pleases Citizens Academy is sitting here in a front row. You may want to sign up to be your CPR holder. You might want to be a police reservists. We look for police reservists. But anyway, my time is up. You had a great meeting.
Now here goes, you get a two four with us. Right? Because you are in district one.
That's my district.
My shares. Right? So you gotta to two for one right there. So you got help right now. So guess what? The eighth precinct. Get with me, so you know how to call me because I called you right back. Right? We had a good conversation. So I'm putting you to task again. Call me again. Get something to you. We're gonna come down to the precinct because me and my wife said we have a office in there. Right? You will get a chance to come in there. When you come in now we're going to introduce you to some police officers. You and your youth group. All right. We're gonna set up something so we can go down to the headquarters, right so you can see the training center down there so you can see the real time crime center. So that way you can be better educated. So yeah, you got some people that can help you. And we're here to do that. And that's what we're going to be doing
through the Chair. Just wanted to make note of our youth advisory council that started last September. Last September, they meet quarterly. We recognize the youth they're not here. So this upcoming year when we have the application out applications out. We want to make sure that you get those applications so that you can get them to you.
Thank you plethora of information just for your two minutes. We're coming to that board right there with the chair that chair Wait, we got one more. Yes.
I agree with what the young man is saying. I just want the board to give the same energy back and forth to each other speaker that comes up here just like Miss Shaw gave her a recommendation for proposal and we just listened to her she said back down like she has other weeks. So I think this is a good back and forth with this gentleman at the same time. We need to be consistent with everybody that comes with a suggestion.
If they have something to say I'm always in agreement letting you state and talk and ask the citizen a question. Yeah,
and that's true. And like I said at the same time, so let's give every citizen some back and forth. Question Listen, entertain
what started it I'm gonna follow up are you nodding didn't come here to know so he know that I just I need information for the youth don't have it that's why they're not here. I want to bridge that we got you. We got I want to let them know you're are good people and you're doing good. I'm just saying they don't see you're okay when they see oh, they run? I said
thanks. Mr. Brown. Yeah, Mr. Chair, your current next three speakers will be over with, followed by former Commissioner Davis and followed by district four. Community Advisory Council members Scottie bone
Come on, Mr. Bronco, hit over with
Can you hear me? Yeah, can you hear me? Yes, we can hear you. Okay. kind of speak. Yes. Go ahead, sir. Hey, hey, Chairman Ferguson.
I got off the phone with that Lieutenant of Internal Affairs named Luca. They aren't a man's man. I you run in circles. You got to call them outside law enforcement agency. Because it's Oh, Bo. It's bold all the way to the top we tell you where to set the topic. Hey, you can't Jedi mind trick don't work. Because when you know, it ain't no gun stiffness. You can't handle suicide. I don't want to everybody. Even eternal affairs guy over there answering the phone with his what he's talking about. And the two fears no gun stiffness. It's a scientific fact. For reasons in the history of real things. There's never been a suicide back gun. There were there was no gun siblings present. Never ever in the history of forensics. A true suicide. Impossible. Because the arm has it is only so Whoa. That is gonna have some stippling some bones. If it ain't 90 can't be a suicide. Simple, aren't you ain't no rocket scientist to explain that, you know, understand that a fifth grader can understand that. So not because it is outside law enforcement agency needs to be called in. They laugh. I mean, that they just, you know, misconduct as though they lie
on purpose. So, um
technically what I'm saying is is impossibility. The law of physics. The arm is only so long it did fire on that. Let me leave the gun burned on Sunday. And it was in the abdomen for the left side. See right in.
No stiffness,
no suicide is BS. Shi Shi D
she and Mr. Brown. former Commissioner Davis.
Happy holidays can be heard. Yes,
we can hear you.
Well, I like to start off by saying I'd like to give a shout out to Don Johnson. I've been known him for years he's been very active in in police community relationship for over 30 years. I also like to say that the city of Detroit, the board of police commissioners should be strongly advocating for more police officers in the neighborhoods. There's far too many offices and and a number of jurisdictions downtown. You know, our concentration more need to be in our neighborhoods. You know, our neighborhoods need more help. We you know, we still have too many people running red lights we still have too many people. You know, we still have too many people not able to go to the stores and night and gas stations 24 hour bank because they're afraid of getting shot. We still got too many people being carjacked, we still got too much bad stuff going on in the city. I also like to say um this board needs to have a policy as it relates to city vehicles under its control, I think is crazy that you could have an employee go on vacation for a week or more and not turn in their vehicle. You know, that's unheard of. I mean, that's some that's like, malfeasance to me, you know, so if you got people that's doing stuff like that, you need to check you need some rules and regulations. You know, you should not be able to have employees, take a city vehicle and go off for weeks or months and, you know, be able to put the city possibly up under Additional lawsuits in our phone, I'm able to do whatever they want with city vehicles. I need a policy on that and the more policies and what's going on in our community. We need to make sure we have officers available to do our do their jobs to help us I need to be doing more with neighborhood groups. I need to be more doing more public service announcements.
Thank you Mr. Bowman. Mr. Bowman go on once. Mr. Bone Hello.
Hello. Hello, can you hear me yet? Go ahead, sir. Okay. Yeah. First of all, and very saddened by the fact that the that the contract was, you know, passed without the necessary provisions recognizing the authority of the Board of police commissioners. And this board had an opportunity during that process to obviously they couldn't force anything into the contract, but they had the authority. They had the ability to have an influence. They could have had a resolution going to the negotiator early on. I'm urging them to make sure that part of the contract stated that the that anything in there had to comply with the city charter. They should have you should have had a resolution and a recommendation put before the city council that they only pass or approve a negotiated contract with the POA that recognizes the authority of the Board of police commissioners as outlined in the city charter. None of that was done. Furthermore, this board used to have an attorney it doesn't anymore, it can't even act on its own in a legal setting with representation because they don't have their own attorney. So you need to get your own attorney and you know, a few years the contract will be up for a new vote. Maybe you can get it right next time. So we can have a functional board of police commissioners. Finally, there's another matter that came up. I recently saw a petition going around with a very good idea and it simply states that if there is a body cam worn at the time of a time concerning a complaint, and if the body cam was off, then the complaint is ruled in favor of the complainant because it can't complain and isn't the one who control the camera
sits here that was your last speaker. Thank you. All right, great. Well,
he told the truth said he tell you joke arguing with us. Thank you. Scott. He said it was a true I agree totally. When I'm 100%. We're him. Munich. Could you mute? When he does says yes.
Or unplug the speaker. He's gone.
He's gone now. I keep harping back on that was a red button over there or something. Okay. That's not right. Okay, now we're gonna have a presentation from the human resource department. 10 minutes is Portello we know you can do it.
I got no book. Here use. You don't.
I'll let him use my Google share.
Should everybody should have had a copy? Happy New Year.
Oh, good evening through the chair how you present me Human Resources Report for the month. of December. Report is going to cover your departmental staffing personnel recruiting and recruiting initiatives and I do believe I set slides for the audience. Do you have those Mr. Brown?
Yeah, no. Okay, so next slide.
So the next slide is the current department staffing. So for December we filled at 87% rate for the sworn were filled at 89% rate. Right so the audience if they're zoomed in, they have slides they can see slides. vacancies. We have 11% vacancy rate for police assistance, where it's 70% Fill 30% vacancy and for civilians were at 84% filled with 16% vacancies and the city council did approve the all classifications for the soaker work social worker salary to be increased, and that was based on a nationwide survey. So the chief did sign off on that. That will go back to our budget office and they'll send that over to city budget. We do have 12 vacancies currently for social workers. So once that takes place, we do believe those vacancies will be filled next slide should be this one recruiting from beginning of the fiscal year July 1 to December 31. Recruiting at a total of 2389 applications 30 were mean at were in processing 132 applications were withdrawn. 101,256 applications were archived 277. were temporarily disqualified 322 were permanently disqualified. And then we had 259. That was a waiting in coal So some were waiting in Cole's testing 14 were our archive. Next slide. For amcos testing for the month of December. For the written tests we had 48 scheduled 42 appeared 30 Pass that was a 71% passing rate 12 failed that was a 29% failure rate zero reschedule zero withdrew and six no shows for the physical agility 128 were scheduled 68 appeared 28 pass which was a 41% passing rate 40 Fail 59% failure rate 16 was rescheduled and then we had 44 No shows.
Next slide.
For total new hires for the month of December, we had 12 That was actually hired for December, but we had some that were carried over from new hires from November. So we had a class that started in December, we had 18 civilians for total
30 Excellent
for Detroit residency information. For Detroiters. We had 530 sworn 408 civilians 15 Police assistants for non Detroiters 1793 sworn 238 civilians 23 Police assistants of the civilian new hires there was 14 Detroit residents and there were eight sworn New Hire residents. Next slide. This is for the attrition for the month of December 22 sworn separated three civilians separated for a total of 25. Next slide for the leave of absence and restricted. We have for sworn FMLA continuous was 68 FMLA intermediate was 70. Medical Leave was one military leave was 365 were restricted disabled was 31. Sick was 22 and then for the civilians 36 was FMLA continuous 60 FMLA, intermediate for medical leave 15 restricted, one disabled eight sick. Next slide for monthly separations. There were a total of 2218 police officers, two sergeants one lieutenant one detective, we had 21 suspensions 18 police officers one Corporal two sergeants, we had 543 members in the drop program. And then we had four interns that were still working on special projects. Not in you all's information but I do have a slide and this is the data for 2002 new hires versus the separations. We had a total of 322 separations and 234 new hires, and then we did graduate 26 and the Academy for December.
Next slide
go to the slide that says 2000 to 2023 reinstatement. Everyone has been asking what is the reinstatements been looking like this you all do not have this information for the board. What is the reinstatements been looking like since the contract so here are the numbers for the year of 2022 we had 57 requests for FY reinstatements 11 of those were hired since the announcement of the new contract which was September 28 2022. We've received 30 requests seven haven't been hired when I look at the data all the way back to 2014. That 11 outweighs any of the previous year. And then we've already had the first one hire for 2023. Some of the agencies that have been hired and then ever returned was temple, the private sector Taylor Livonia, Farmington Hills, and Westland PD, and they're still coming in one of the other major changes in the contract that was approved was a training reimbursement to the city. So previously, as you all know, we've we've received 100 individual hundreds of individuals over the year where we would train them and then they would leave our academy and we could not recoup the costs well, we can now recoup the cost. So if an individual was to go to our academy and then leave, they would be required and they will sign a contract to pay us back. Zero to One year we would recoup 100% of the total education expenses, one to two years. 75% two to three years 50% Three to four years 25% The way that we plan to do this and we just started on this past Saturday, the infant the our process and recruiting will be the applications when they go to Application orientation, which is the first day they will go to the academy to do the physical agility test. They're gonna get an introduction to this process. They will then be emailed a copy of the contract. They will come to final orientation before the classes start. They will have a copy of that contract signed that contract has to be notarized. twice on two different pages. And the chief also has to sign on it. A copy of that contract will go in their personnel file and also the recruiting file. Then HR we will conduct periodic audits we will check the mitten system and then we will also compare since we know that they started in January. If anybody is leaving the academy we will check em calls to see if they went to another agency. And then also when they turn their paperwork in. A lot of times they have to put the reason and then we will be asking the commander so if they are not honest on the front end, we'll go into the system to check and that's how we plan to recoup the money. Next slide for the audience. So right now we have four classes that are at the Academy. We 110 students are over there. February the 17th will be the next class that will graduate right now we have 29 students that are there for the March class that will graduate we have 29 that are there. Then we have an April class that will graduate with hopefully 30 students, and then we have a class that will be their own. Right now. There's 22 students in there. The next class will start on January 30. So these are the ones that will be applicable to the new change and then we're hoping to start with 30 students.
Any questions?
This concludes my presentation. Wow.
That's awesome. As always, Commissioner Holly.
Thank you so much, Mr. Chairman. What a wonderful, wonderful, wonderful report. Let me ask you this. I mean, how did this come about? Right this this piece of it tears of recruiting, getting that money back? And the second thing that is I mean, I mean, that's it seems so practical. It seems so easy, but it took us so long. The other thing is this. Can we afford Can you enforce that? How can that be enforced?
So I have been told that it has been that it can be enforced. The the legal has told me that it can be enforced and so I waited for them to give me the authorization to do that. And so that is the reason why we started on this past Saturday.
It took a lot of work to get
from this staff to the chief staff to the union's to making sure it was in the contract to the city council. It took a lot of work to get here. And what I can tell you as of today, we have not lost one officer going to another law enforcement agency for the month of January. So I hope that it continues to stay like that all the separations that we have for January have either been to retirement or just a resignation or separation, but it has not been for another law enforcement. Those requests are still coming in so all we can do is hope and pray that it continues I'm
glad I voted for you.
Thank you, Mr. Carter. Mr. Burton.
Thank you, Mr. Chair. You know, I just want to say great presentation. But if I had a question, I guess the question would be What do you see that as tracting younger officers to come and work in each rate? I'm understanding ag rank, they gain a great experience. You mentioned something about we haven't lost a single officer. I mean, you know, student that's in a class or whatever to become officer. What do you think this assess happens to be other than we have achieved that's happened to be a cast hack, graduate and you got great commercials or whatever attracting people but what do you think? What are some feedback you hear from somebody
who I think is several things you have to do. I think you have to be in the community. Our recruiters have been in the heavily in the community. We've been at sports events, we've been the security companies, we're heavily targeting the military. So the military has been inviting us in for their reserve training days to come and talk to them. Their military police going to the high school is going to the colleges were even now talking to some of the historical black colleges because we realized that a lot of alumni are here with their alumni associations, and a lot of kids want to come back but they don't know about the job opportunities. The other thing is that for the for the young man that was I don't know if he's still here, but he was talking about the youth. So the mayor has these programs in the city where you get paid for an internship so we expose students to that through the mayor's fellowship and also grow Detroit youth talent. So just being out in the community, it takes a lot it takes media, it takes being on Instagram photos, Facebook, Tik Tok. Every opportunity that you have to be able to engage. You have to be out there. So you have to be visibly seeing
it seeing like something is really working, especially this year, I can feel the magic. So keep up the great work that they give you and your team and the department is doing and also the chief. Thank you.
Mr. Banks. Yes. To the chair. Director Telo Rector patella. How's that new contract working for DPD you know what a new contract what they got? What is that about, what four months ago? Is it is it maintaining?
It is what it is? We've saw normally you would see that we would have 30 separations and normally they would be on the high end for resignations. And what we're starting to see since the contract is we still have resignations, but we still have separations but is not mainly on the resignations, is more so on the retirement. So and then you also have individuals that have left and they're trying to come back. So an individual's they have been honest to say that we left for the pay, but there was better opportunities here at DPD. The other thing is we have on site education here at Cleary University. Just for this January class alone, we have over 154 new students to enroll. So that was for bachelor's degree master's degree and also is for civilian opportunities and family. So that's another thing that the force is educated. They're taken advantage of the tuition reimbursement and I do be believed for the LSA that was increased in their contract.
Thank you, Chair, no questions. Just want to say thank you for your gracious holiday car. Thank you Mr. Moore.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I believe my question might be for the chief but I'll ask it and either you or the chief can respond. I'm looking at the suspension list. Is there a timeframe or a time limit in which the chief has to switch suspension from with pay to without
pay I cannot
answer that. Can you answer that?
Do you do that? You I don't have the answer for that either. But we can find out for you.
Okay, thank you very much. And I do see December when did the contract come out? Madam Director, Sir, when did the contract come out for the officers?
The new contract when did it come out? I believe it was signed off November and all of their pay has is in the system and it has been updated. Okay,
thank you, Madam Commissioner, but not
quickly. Ladies and gentlemen, you may or may not be aware that Detroit police officers can sign up for something called secondary employment like when you see the guys over at Meijer wheel DPD officers in uniform and you see the DPD car out there, that secondary employment those their sworn officers but they're getting paid by Meyer to be there and there's a whole process for that within the city of Detroit. So my question to you is about what percentage of our officers are engaged in secondary employment, which further increases their money if they're not working on Saturday or Sunday? They can go to secondary employment admires or Masonic temple or anywhere. So
what I do not have that answer, but I can get with the department who runs the secondary employment opportunity to get those stats for you. And
only one other question as a follow up to that. I've noticed that most of the officers that are engaged in secondary employment are male officers. It doesn't appear that female officers are taking advantage of this of this opportunity. I don't know if you have any thoughts about that. If you do find if you want to find out anything I'd be interested aren't availing themselves of
it. Come back to you. They see
Thank you, Chair. Thank you, HR. Patil. Where in your report, does it show the consequences to law enforcement members who choose to leave before the contract?
So it isn't it is not in your official report but because I was doing slides for the mayor. I had prepared to brief this to you all okay. And but I do have it if you if you need it. If you do need to see the physical layout of it. I have
it anything you share with the mayor we'd be interested in quite frankly.
Okay. And I'd like to share with the community because I know in 2019 We were told this would never happen. In fact, there were two legislators, a senator and a state rep that wrote a language to protect the citizens of Detroit from having to pay when those various law enforcement members chose to leave Detroit as soon as they had taken advantage of that very lucrative, and I'll call it Harvard level. Police. Education. So this is this two is a good day for the citizens of Detroit as well as DPD. Thank you.
Excellent. Go ahead. HR, sir.
i be i know the word but I just can't pronounce it. When it comes down to a police officer with the Secretary of the secondary employment. Are we covered if if something happens if that police officer see someone admires how are we our how are we covered?
So I do not have that answer, but I will get back with you.
Fantastic. Well, thank you. Thank you as always, I look forward to your presentations. Wow.
precinct commander up sir. workup by the pistols the chair
Good evening.
Good evening.
I'm coming to Kurt warboys. The 12th person and I want to welcome the board to number 12 and the northwest Activity Center. I want to thank the Northwest Activity Center staff for allowing us to hold the meeting here this evening. And it's an honor to host the first be LPC meeting of 2023 out in our community. I'll give you a quick overview of the top precinct. It's located at 1441 West Seven Mile near the intersection of West Seven Mile and Woodward covers an area of approximately 13 square miles and includes nearly 75,000 residents. The precinct is proud to support over 50 organized community groups 16 schools 300 local businesses and we also have 18 parks and two recreational centers within our borders. The Greenlight project is well represented in the precinct with they're currently being 105 locations actively participating, making number 12 the second highest precinct and Greenlight locations in the city. Some of the more notable businesses and 12 are the Meijer grocery store complex Amazon distribution center, which will be opening up this spring, Home Depot, University of Detroit Mercy Sinai Grace hospital to Detroit golf club Palmer Park and the avenue of fashion I live north. We share a common border with Highland Park, Hazel Park, Ferndale, Oak Park, Royal Oak Township and Southfield 12 precinct also borders the 11th eight second 10 precincts are precinct staffing. Once again, I'm the commander Monica warboys. We have commander excuse me, Captain Jamar recut just got with us in December, there was a transfer of Captain Sean Starks to DDC who was with us for about 10 months. And we look forward to Captain Ricky getting up to speed and interacting with you in the community. We have 125 sworn members 24 of those are probationary at this time. We're very young. I would guess that about 60% of our staffing that's on patrol is got less than two years. So we're trying to get them trained up and acclimated to patrol activities as soon as we can. We also have seven non sworn civilian positions are those the Army's which are in house secretaries, and our ceasefire analysts and embedded domestic violence advocate is at our precinct every day to interact with community they do about 120 interactions per month. With the community and for domestic violence related situations. We also have a shared mtoc Agent side of the precinct that we share with you 11%. For our crime statistics, I'm going to basically talk about 2022 Just because the end of this couple of weeks ago we have a recorded 5% reduction in part one violent crime and the 12% but we do have a 28% increase in part one property crime. So that's where we show our challenges. Some of our specific crime numbers are we had 34 homicides and 12 Last year, which was a 70% increase over 2021. Well, it's consistent with our five year average. We had a good year last year in 2021 for homicides, and it came back to about where our level was in the previous four years. What we did see as a huge increase, assuming decrease in our non fatal shootings. We were down 35 non fatal shootings for the year compared to 2021 for a proximate 30% decrease. We did a lot of good things with our ops and ceasefire teams to make sure that the gun violence at least on the non fatal shooting side was reduced. Our robberies were up 10% I do associate that with once again having a really good year and 2021 I think that COVID redo some of the the activities that were going on on the street where it was related to robberies and street robberies, but it didn't come up again. A little bit last year 10% are aggravated assaults are down 3%, which for the first half of the year was up at a good second half. And for property crime, though we were up 20% in both burglary and larcenies and for stolen motor vehicles were up approximately 40% And that was a significant increase in the last quarter of the year. And part of that I'll talk about a little bit later when I get further on in my presentation. The reduction in violent crime numbers are due to the hard work and dedication of all three platoons on patrol our special operations and our ceasefire officers, our neighborhood police officers and the thoroughness of our PD detectives, the 12 precinct answered 31,861 calls for service last year 31,000 with 10,074 of those calls being for priority one status calls shows that we are averaging we had sorry, this shows that we saw 11% increase over 2021 in calls for service. average response time for the precincts around 30 minutes. We're working on that consistently to get that down. I think at one point the chief in America wants to be around 15 minutes for priority one calls and that's been reduced every year. We're trying to get down to the 12 minute mark. And I'm running overlap cars and I have a car that runs from two 2pm to 10pm with overtime to make sure we're covering those calls during shift change. The officers made 807 arrests last year with CS 285 weapons. Our PDU submitted 1021 Arrest warrants, but 331 of those be not in custody warrants. So something that we didn't have a person that seemed to arrest. We followed up did our investigative duties and were able to find a suspect and submit a warrant on that person. We ended the year with a 25% closure rate for non fatal shootings and we're looking to improve on that this year. We did have some like system challenges with an uptick in property crime. But that's been going on citywide and nationwide. There's been a sharp increase in motor vehicle thefts over the last several months with our scout car areas 12 to 12, eight and 1210 having the highest frequency of incidents. To combat this trend. We've directed additional resources into the hotspot areas. We're conducting business inspection inspections looking for stolen car parts. We're performing mtoc own checks on previous offenders to make sure they're not out there committing the same crimes they've done in the past. We're also conducting targeted surveillance on these hotspot areas, traffic blitzes, and we're trying to focus on the cars that are being most frequently stolen. And right now we've noticed that the key is have been off the chain with the increase I don't know if you heard about it, but there was a Tiktok video that came out last summer fall that showed the youth out there how to go out and steal a Kia fairly easily and we see a lot of joy riding. Because of that. Jeeps are also still very popular jeeps, dodgers are still very popular items to steal. And that's mostly for car parks. They're being pushed on the been stripped and those parts have been sold to locations that we're still trying to find and when we do finally shut them down. We're continuing our enforcement efforts that contribute to the violent crime reductions such as, such as weekly restore order operations, bi weekly ote details, which is the offer to engage in prostitution, continuation of our ceasefire and custom notification and disruptions with the gangs in our precinct and the youth that are gathered in groups of non fatal shooting wraparounds to make sure we don't have a retaliation, ot patrols on the business corridor so live right in the minuman Nichols corridor we have ot pretty much every day having officer presence out there to prevent robberies, larcenies and burgers and partnership with RBC city BC to close down these after hours and illegal operated halls. They're known to yield a lot of criminal activity. We felt we shut down I think five last year that we're operating without licenses, and getting lots of complaints from the neighbors about parking, trash, loitering, drug usage, and noise. So we made sure we were addressing those issues. We looked forward to improving on last year's numbers with a 10% reduction or overall part one crime and a 10% improvement in our non fatal shooting closure rate for our community engagement. Our neighborhood police officers are out there out front of on front of it. Right now. I have one sergeant Sergeant Sherwood Bledsoe, and for MPO officers. There's our assuming they're MPO Michael Crowder, MPO and Nathaniel Womack. MPO Keith Buckman and MPO Larissa Powell. She's not here today. But they're out there and they're doing it every day and I heard a couple of complaints about our response. I'm happy to take those phone calls. I truly believe that we are responsive. I my offices is 15 feet from where their offices I see him every day. And I know there are they're out there answering these complaints that for quality life issues that we have in the precinct. But if we're not doing it well enough, we're happy to improve can always improve and we're always here to listen to.
Over the past year, the MPOs have completed many community activities including the senior appreciation night, our trunk, trunk or treat on Halloween, a movie night Shop with a Cop a turkey giveaway, gun lock distribution, youth explores and the Brotherhood sisterhood, no boundaries program to reduce reduce youth violence. They're continuously meeting with the businesses, community leaders and neighborhood groups to improve on the quality of life issues that occur on a daily basis within our precinct. We also have the CIT program, which I think you're probably familiar with the crisis intervention team. We were one of the initial precincts to implement that back in October of 2021 consists of two CIT trained officers and a mental health care professional that are available for mental health runs the CIT team responds to police runs involving citizens having mental health crisis, as well as regular making contact with citizens who may need services. The goal is to connect with persons who need resources including housing, mental health care or substance abuse assistance while freeing up patrol units for crime related police runs. The program has received positive feedback from both patrol officers, supervisors in the community and I think the chief is looking to continue that and improve on that and expanding. Conclusion. The 12 precinct continues to strive to be a leader within the Detroit Police Department with our service and professionalism. And give citizens the highest level of support that they deserve. We are on both Facebook and Twitter with our own pages and we'd appreciate it if everyone would follow our feeds. Thank you for your time and attention and be happy to take any questions you might have to stop. Really
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Thank you Mr. Chairman. Commander. There was a crime rate operating without in in the 12 precinct and I think it even spilled over into the eighth precinct. Working Midnight's hidden buildings. Was there ever a resolve to that?
So resolved? No, but it's we've made a lot of progress. We've made I think, five arrests. We've tried to disrupt that group. It's it's they're very organized. They can tell they've been doing what the ones we've caught extensive histories with burglaries and and larcenies there their mode of operation is to steal a vehicle usually a truck of some sort Jeep pickup truck they use that day they steal it so it's not even sometimes reported. They go in they break the front windows or the doors of the business. They load up as much material on items as they can and then they fleet and we were able to like I said, we've captured one from culture that happened over our living when we caught the six people that flooded We caught one has been charged. We were able to make a good rest in number eight with a group of individuals that were in a white Jeep that was used about 11 times I think it was and built between the 12th and the eighth precinct. And we're following up on doing phone pings trying to see who they're contacting, using all the information we can to try to take every weekend into custody.
How long has it been going on and what additional resources which you need to bring that to?
It's been going on since about September where this this main group and I said we've done a pretty good job of disrupting them for the 12 precinct what I did because of some of the incidents that happened on live in my corridor and businesses over there. I was running overtime operations every night from Thanksgiving to Christmas to the new year had four to six officers just on the corridor, making sure that the businesses there did not get hit. That was great for the businesses on that corridor and we did not have any more incidents since October 17 was the last time the problem is it you know they moved they hit hit a couple locations over on Meijer and Wyoming on eighth mile and then over an eighth precinct. So that's why with a combination of efforts between the investigators from the Great 12 Our Major Crimes Task Force, they've done a very good job of tracking down some of these individuals taking them customers put additional resources that you need to bring that to here. I think I think we're doing very well. We're working with the feds to see if they'll take some of this stuff federally. So the chief is aware of what's going on. I have a 10 page report that details all the information that has been gathered and it's just kind of compiling it and making sure we can I track down these other individuals. Thank you. Thank you to the chair
commander. It has been said often in our community meetings about the use of technology and its effectiveness and being able to help control crime. And as you stated the precinct having the second largest amount of green light businesses so I'm wondering what would be your observation on how that technology has aided or not in reducing the crime in our precincts.
So I'm a big fan of technology. I am a big fan of green light. i We don't really have ShotSpotter yet and 12 It's on our border with eight but I think it's coming. I actually know it's coming too often. I'm a fan I'm a favor that technology is a tool. It is not the end all be all it's it's it helps us do our job better and it helps us get people into custody. I do think it is also deterrent so for example, Greenlight location at a gas station I even though we still sometimes have crimes there. I think they're much lower than where there is no green light where there isn't that known camera that's hooked up to our our our headquarters in our crime intelligence unit. So yes, I do believe they help and I would like to see more green light in the precinct and I think ShotSpotter citizen mentioned that, you know, ShotSpotter is reactionary, but the more successes we have with taking people into custody. Yes, even after the fact. It makes somebody think about maybe I don't want to fire my gun in this neighborhood or on this block because I know that the police will be here quickly and they're going to be able to do an investigation and maybe take me to custody. It's kind of a combination of things. And I believe that all these tools help us do our job better until we can get another 1000 police officers on the street. These are the things we need to do our job today.
Thank you for that response. And my second question would be again, around community addressing the concerns with individuals running red lights and the sort of traffic you know, hazards that are occurring as a result and so in this precinct, you know what would you say is the amount of resources that are being deployed to traffic enforcement and are you seeing a lot of accidents in this precinct?
Yes, we do have a lot of accidents and 12 I think we're second or third in the city and precincts number nine and number three more than we do but we have a large community. A lot of people live in 12 people trying to get to work, they got places to go and they don't want to obey the traffic laws. I mean, it's just part of that and so it is nice when I can get assistance from our traffic enforcement unit. I have three motor officers in the precinct that are out there every day trying to make sure that people are obeying the traffic laws and issuing tickets. We run I run traffic blitzes with my special operations. Once a week, I try to do it once a week we get sidetracked with other other activities. But just last week, we were over on the east side of the precinct wrote 141 tickets on a Saturday, trying to make sure that people understand we are out there and we are enforcing these laws. The department is now trying to put out the electronic speed signs in certain areas. I think we are putting one over on Wyoming and seven mile area at least that's what I requested. So at least it gets people that maybe aren't trying to do it intentionally that they just don't know that the speed limit is these electronic speed signs on will make them aware of what the speed is and what speed they're doing at that time. So I think that'll help. More officers in the areas definitely benefit. I think if people see patrol cars, they slow down. I like the speed humps and the neighbors but a lot of the time it's you know we have stolen vehicles we have people that don't don't care about the vehicle during I mean for me I'm I'm not gonna go over speed hump at more than five miles an hour because I'm not going to ruin my car and you will ruin your car if you take those bumps in 1520 miles an hour. But it's a it's a it's a mentality. I think we got to get it out there that hey, this is to protect the kids on the block the elderly. I mean, you got to slow down and obey the traffic laws, but I'm doing we're doing the best we can to try to make sure it's enforced.
Thank you then my final question. I'm sorry chair will be a you mentioned that the precinct is likely one of the younger precincts in the department. And I just want to know what unique opportunities do you think that provide you as a commander to have a precinct that's so young?
I don't know if we're the youngest. I think the whole department is young right now because of all the hiring has been going on. But I will say I know from the people my personnel are young, and so I have a excellent team of supervisors from the captain on down Lieutenant sergeants that are working with these young officers every single day to try to teach them the right way of doing the job. Teach them how to be professional, interact with our citizens professional manner to your respect will still go out there and enforce the laws. So being so young, you don't get you know, some of the older guys a little disgruntled little, maybe it's set in their ways. It gives us an opportunity to mold them and show them the right way to do the job.
Thank you.
Chair mark just had a question from the community to ask
about that person and I'll come back to the meat grinder quick
questions. Quick question. Do you have any accidents on Avenue or fascia? Sorry, we have any accidents a lot of on Avenue. It's not
one of our more higher cases instance of that, but we do have them Yes. It's from when I just got a complaint from going down from four lanes to to just north and south. Some people don't know that's happened and they come in Northbrook, Illinois and emerges South a seven mile we've had a few accidents over that parked cars there. They don't merge in time or they're not paying attention. They've rear ended a parked car. It's it's only it's a couple three times and then up you know we have a lot of street parking and living without any fashion. People pulling out and not paying attention, trying to pump them up from the side street and you got some obstructed views. So it's there. It's just people gotta slow down. That's my biggest thing. When I sit when I'm out there. It's the people going too fast. 25 They need to slow down
the banks. I'm all saying?
Yeah, Mr. Burton. Yes, thank you, Mr. Chair. I just wanted to start off the sand. Congratulations, Commander with the 10% overall reduction of crime in your present. Also, when it comes to police response times, it seemed like your precinct have made a lot of improvement in that area as well over the years and do you believe is Officer over time is is being effective in your preset for us reducing the police response time.
So
the overtime is is a part of it. We We have monthly minimums that were meant to meet. So to meet some of those minimums. I do offer overtime and that is accepted and the officers actually appreciate it because it helps, you know, pay the bills. But so yes, the minimums are what come from downtown, and that's based on the previous month's calls for service. So we're it's a row a floating number that just depending on what the what the calls of service were historically. So overtime is very key to that. The other thing, like I said in my presentation was that we have overlapped cars because you end up noticing that the reason that response times increases is a lot of times during shift change. And one of our challenges in 12 is that our precinct is on pretty much on the far east side. Of the precinct, and it is a large precinct. There is not a lot of direct highway traffic that you can go either north south east west sub mile, it's McNichols. It's maybe a mile and then silica surface streets on north and south. So getting from the precinct roll and from roll call to say Greenfield and Frankel Penfield Nichols. It takes a minute it doesn't it's not something happens immediately. So we run overlap cars and those overlap. Cars are listening up. They work an extra hour over to make sure that they're answering that that priority one call for service when when we're going through our shift change. And then I got another car I call the commanders car. That I said that's their mandate during shift change. All they're doing is answering prior to one cause and then when that's over and things calm down or he gets on the street, they can go out and answer some other things and and be proactive police.
You all are definitely working over and number 12 So I'm really impressed with the 10% reduction of overall crime and also the other great components that's working in number 12.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and to the chair through the chair. And I'm very impressed with your presentation. In a sense through your articulation. You're sort of like commanding your your you know, you know, you know every aspect of what your your report and how you presented it and now the question has been asked how you answered them and I'm very impressed. I'm really impressed with that. And I want you to know that. I I hope that I just want you to know that. That's it. It's good report. Just two things. In one question. Debit chief chairman to Jeopardy. Chief SAMMS, you had 30,000 31,000 runs. And I wanted to know, would it be something Deputy Chief of Sam's in terms of maybe bringing it up at at your can meetings that how many of them are mental health and that we thought it may how we can deal with it on local rather than city wide and how each commanding is handling that? And because we got to get through an effort that everybody's working now trying to get this mental health piece under control and how we're going to be to help our people. The other thing I'm doing development on a weight from vanity devata to Savannah, Savannah. Is that your area sir is to be the motors that whole block. So I just want you to know the starting next month. So I just want you to know I'm there. Kind of just fail okay, just let me know you watch it. Okay. Sir. Okay. It starts next month and I find a big task. But I'm very proud of the fact is that the development that's going to take place for that community. So that is your area though.
Yes, sir. I've woodwork the word recorder from McNichols all the way to a mile. Okay.
All right up to over to John or I probably just need to have a meeting to kind of get a feel about. So you know, we tried to we tried to get accomplished. Thank you so much. Thank you, Mr. C,
no questions and thank you, Commander for your report. And your demonstration of being very much in control of the knowledge that you've just shared. Thank you for your services. Well,
my pleasure. Thank you. Thank you. I have nothing else.
Thank you very much. Thank you once again. Thank you.
Um, Mr. Brown,
Mr. Chair, you have a couple of correspondents that came from Chief waste office. The first one was the outcome for OCI sustaining cases, which was in December and the second one was the 2020 choose to be to a year and stats.
And now announcements. The Announcements Yeah, Mr. Chair.
Next be the LPC meeting will be January the 15th 19 I'm sorry, at 3pm at Detroit Public Safety headquarters that address is 130 1/3 Street. And the next community meeting will be Thursday February the night when a 23 at 6:30pm with the night present hosting at Fort resource Engagement Center also name is Fred. That address is 15191 MADELINE Wait 205 and Mr. Chair from there, I can go to the committee meetings. The committees meet every Wednesday for the month of February which is every second Wednesday I'm sorry. Budget Committee meeting Wednesday. Were the night eight I should say when it 23 to 2pm personnel and training. Wednesday February 8 at 2:30pm. Policy committed me Wednesday, February eighth at 3pm. And the citizen complaint committee meeting Wednesday, February 8 at 3:30pm. And Mr. Chair all those take place at Detroit Public Safety headquarters. And they could also be viewed on on Zoom.
Fantastic. Unfinished business. Yeah this chair right here. Yes.
How, you know, how was the backlog? How we come in with that doesn't mean we're gonna put that on the new business or new business. Okay. Okay. Yes,
to the chair point of information. I know that the chief had brought two officers that he was recommended to be suspended without pay that requested that their hearing be handled in public. And I know that we decided we will handle his unfinished business but I hadn't seen it on the agenda. And so just wondering, when we were planning on getting back to that deliberation. We'll
find that out when he plans on bringing that up, bringing those two officers back right bracket. We'll find that out right away.
Yep, that's between the chief and the DPLA to bring that back.
Okay, thank you. I'm new business
person when we got a new business policy committee report. You ready to report off of policy? If not, we can do it next week. Yeah, cuz that was your first first committee. Um,
here's some new business. The backlog.
The backlog is 327 past 90 days. That's the official number right now. 327 past 90 days. Also under new business, commissioners, you all have received the new plan that that the personnel and training committee, along with Mr. Brown and senior investigator Cromwell came up with on how we're going to tackle this backlog. How we're going to get these numbers down to zero in a timely manner.
So with that being said,
you all received and had a chance to read on how we're planning on getting that done.
So that we're going to try to hire me or whatever.
We're gonna part time hire eight. Former investigators who supervisor investigator Ainsley Cromwell have recommended and the expectation is that those investigators will work 20 hours a week for six months. And if this is a time you want me to share the names of those or
not yet, so
that's just a six month period we given them not probably begin down well before to six months, but we just want to do that. To make sure and they will handle just a backlog only resident investigators are going to be handling the citizens complaints. That's constantly coming in. Right and we try to knock that down too. But the backlog is going to be there. Yes, Chairman.
What I was trying to get hammered on with Mr. Conwell in terms of what happened to the 50% of the of the investigators that we do we are well I mean what how did I mean how do we get to now come down to 50%. Now, when you have to hire another eight part time I mean, I they wouldn't happen to the left us
to hear this. We tried to hire eight investigators. I was on the record saying I wanted 10 Because what we found out was once you start getting the eight in, they start losing interest. When they get in there they go oops, it's not really what I signed up for. And they start right or they got to go through a background check. Right. So someone probably don't go through the background check. So what we had to do is press the reset button on that. But while we're doing that these cases have to get down. So that's what that plan came up. With. We hired some people that's already in the system. All they got to do is go back through and get their fingerprints, right which shouldn't be no problem because they used to be investigated for us for OCR and he used to work over there. So they did a good job so they don't have to be trained. And then we had to wait to train the eight to get them up to speed. My case is still coming in. You get 90 days old so that 327 probably double. So do we have time to wait for that? Absolutely not in my class because when we get we're going to be hired a new board secretary and a new chief investigator. And we don't want him to start in that in a backlog. We want to start at zero and then ask
you this midterm and now leave you alone. I don't mean no harm and I know it's late. But can't we do I mean can't we chew gum and walk at the same time for example, you get up and go with the new people. It's okay. But can we also start working on the the the regular people that we need to have so when the new people come in, we won't get back we'll be back backlog again. That's That's my point.
When you go make those points. Let me finish I'm trying to take this step by step now. He just brought it up. And that let you know that right now. Right now. If you want a website on detroit.gov website right now, and you type in Secretary all you gotta do is type in Secretary hopefully the positions are going to pop up so it is live right now. Those two posting jobs are up right now. So you can go in and type that in and we're gonna put it on my website. So when it says apply is hit apply and it'll take you right to the website. And we're gonna try to put it on our Facebook page. And when you go to our Facebook page, you're gonna see apply for board secretary or chief investigator and when you click on any one of them lates it's gonna take you right to the application. Those applications are going to be up for they're gonna be the postings alive as today and they're gonna go through 128. So 28 will be that Saturday, that's when they'll be coming down. And then the personnel and training committee, they're going to interview the candidates. And that's going to start on January the 30th. So we're not waiting well, right through, right, because we have enough people in a training and personnel training committee to make this happen.
I thought, again, I don't mean no harm. But you need to tell we got to we started all over again with the Secretary and the CI we had to we have to what what what was I was I was out of the country or something me? Yeah, I don't want a mother only one at this board.
No, I made that announcement on on on December the 15th. I made that announcement. We're pressing the reset button. So that announcement was there and then last week, I said the same thing. And then this week, it has gone up. So what is live right now. So whatever's happening right now we are hiring a board secretary and Chief Investigator as of today, so you guys can go on and click on there and get on there. But for the backlog, we need to make sure we can get that backlog down. So to hire these eight investigators was actually six investigators and one supervisor investigator. That's the person that's going to be supervising the seven other people. So they won't be they won't be have to worry about being supervised by
the regular staff.
So with that being said,
Mr. Chairman, yes. On that note, I understand that we've got the you said 327 cases, sorry 327 cases that are backlogged. But But what we're doing with this by hiring eight people, part time, 20 hours, 20 hours a week. I understand that but I mean, it's it's at a substantial mean, they're only going to be doing five cases a week then, because when I divide it, it's five cases for each of those people per week. So if that's what you think that's an efficient use of resources, then you know, that's, that's an interesting issue. I mean,
not only not only is interesting, some of the cases they might be able to do a lot quicker. We don't know. We don't know what the backlog is. Plus, is 320 $320,000 cost savings. That's what it is right now. $320,972. That's what we're gonna say, in less than six months. All right, that's a good investment on our return right now.
All I can say is that if I worked, even as a police officer, if in fact you were going to bring in some temporary police from somewhere else, and you are going to pay them 20,000 For six months to for an extra 20 hours a week. I'd rather you pay me as the person who's already there. I can increase my productivity I can work more hours. And get this done.
I mentioned that we tried that. And we're overtaxing the best skaters that's already there. Or you feel like their overtime pay tax and they're getting overtime. So they're burnout plus, those cases are coming in. So they have to get those cases coming in plus due to backlog. So right now only thing they have to do right now is do just the cases that's coming in, which makes a lot of sense. And then the backlog Kaitlyn those investigators gonna do it to get it down to zero. Once they get down to zero we'll be able to manage it 100 times better.
I'll support your your analysis because you spent a lot of time on this. Absolutely. I'm not trying to you know, to monkey with it. But it just seems to me that it's just as I said, it's been my experience, you give a person an opportunity to make 20 grand in six months. They're gonna hustle I mean, you don't need to bring anyway.
And on another note, those investigators as they are now they're not losing any overtime, if they want to work all the time they can and if they want to help out on some of the backlog, they can I don't
want to make all the money possible. But it is possible. Okay.
Yes, I'm missing a burden to the chair. You know, I just want the public to hear you know, you know, is that I haven't always agree with everything on his board. But I can honestly say when I first arrived here, I had some questions, you know, and some concerns but I don't have those same questions and concerns I once had before. I'm actually optimistic about 2023 Especially with the direction that the board is going. The community had outcries about how the board was viewing citizens complaints, as well as the backlog. I had concerns too. But right now, the chair along with the interim
chief he's he's just he's just senior investigator,
senior investigator my policy the chair along with the senior investigator, have came up with a plan that's really going to make this board look good. But also answering a lot of the concerns that the public has had over the you know, over this past year or two or whatever about the backlog. Progress is really happening right now. Good positive change, good vibe. With this leadership. We have in New, we have an experience investigators. It's going to be coming on, you know, and we got to get this backlog down to zero. And so I'm on board. I want our community activist to know that I'm on board with the chair along with this board, and I like for you to be on board too. Because this chair has listened to all of us from the as community activist, and
he's working hard. I see the progress.
Thank you. Okay, I'm at this juncture of the discussion. I think it's appropriate to make a motion that the Board of police commissioners support the proposal to hire to rehire 718 investigators and those rehire seven, eight investigators seven
eight investigators and one investigator,
okay. The first
only seven from one to
the motion. I do not
need, you can name
somebody else do this.
It's just too much the number
too many too many comments in them before the motion even gets out. So with all these comments, perhaps someone else is better prepared. I move that the BLP say accepts a strategy to realistically impact the backlog of 327 cases by rehiring the following individuals. Charlotte Jones supervising investigator salary for six months $22,000 Carolyn Nichols investigator salary for six months $18,000 Roselyn Roslyn Baynes investigator salary for six months $18,000 The Chanda nearly investigator salary for six months $18,000 unique while Coleman investigator salary for six months $18,000 They'll beta Moses investigator salary for six months $18,000 And I'd like to add here we've been advised by Mr. George, our, our chief Finance, Financial Officer, that by utilizing these funds in this manner, we are because they ultimately we were going to have a surplus but by using these funds in this manner, DEP board of police commissioners will have control of those funds because otherwise they will go back to the city if we were not to
to use them Madam Vice Chair that's for 20 hours of work per week of her motion because she she didn't say that these people are assigned to work 20 hours per week, not 40 hours. They're not being
hired, like employees
20 hours a week. Is that can I second emotion
we know we've not made it? You gotta say it.
Go ahead Commissioner.
Okay, again, I will try this motion to say that the border police commissioners are supporting the rehiring seven investigators who will be working 20 hours per week per week. And the names of those investigators are on record.
Importance it's any discussion
so my query, though I see the rationale for hiring these former investigators part time is wondering the liability we might be open to just to figure out what criteria was used for which individuals are being hired and whether or not all former investigators were given an equal opportunity to access this opportunity and whether or not HR policies require that. So if I can get some advisement or whether or not this actually is in alignment with HR policies, then
we went through that and they're going to be under a thing called Test temporary administrator, Special Services staff. So under that, we can do it
through the Chair, Mr. Chair.
Mr. Chair, so this is a seasonal position.
No, no, not feasible. This is temporary, but six months or less when we get the backlogs down so we calculated that that may take a month at the longest it will make take six we're thinking at 327 to do an accurate job and to make sure the citizens rights have been you know, vindicated or addressed. We put it to six months Okay. Well, they won't rush this process.
So many investigators can help out if they want to. That's what you say.
Absolutely. Okay, and then it might even come down a lot quicker. Wait, hang on, Mr. Brown.
This is here.
This is only for those individuals. That's listed. We would not x curve current investigators to Dibble in the backlog.
As cases come in, the current
investigators got to try to do though, so they tried to do backlog and nails cases that's when they get behind. So if you just got a team that's handling all backlog, no new cases coming in. We just think that that's the best way to go because we tried with the overtime. current investigation was doing their regular work and trying to hit the backlog. And it just wasn't working because they was overwhelmed. We just came up with an idea from Mr. Joy to say guess what, how much it budgets, how much money we will have in the surplus. He did say about a half a million dollars. He said if you don't use it, you're going to lose it. So myself and Mr. Cromwell reached out to these seven eight employees and said listen, I would like to come back and help us out to get rid of this backlog. I tell you one day of the phone call was the same day they said yes, I'd be willing to come back and help you guys out because they understand if I can just do the backlog and don't have cases coming in to me. Then I can get this backlog done.
Fantastic. Any further questions? Great question. Mr. Chairman. I
believe one of the investigators was in San Diego as an investigator return. I don't want to mention any names.
The chair. I believe supervisor investigator Ainsley Cromwell recommended these individuals so he could probably address that question.
Through the Chair, way, way, way, way way.
Excuse me, the Chair. I'd like to know how many of these individuals
I can show as a full kind of person
work remotely if they're in California.
I have a problem with that sort of super supervisor. There's gonna be supervisors so they're just report to them. So they don't the supervisors not gonna be doing the cases.
Right. Right. They supervise him from halfway across the country though. You come to the microphone.
Supervising investigator chromo for the record.
Did you speak into the mic? I'm sorry. I can't hear you,
supervising investigator Ainslie Cromwell for the record. As you know once the investigations are completed, they will need to be reviewed. None of the investigators will permanently be on site during this 20 hour work week. Some will come in and do some things that some paperwork that needs to be done, but all of them will be working off site. If there's a concern of where that off site work is we can address that now. I guess when
I hear it a person in California is gonna be supervised in case not sure what enough you can zoom and you can email anywhere across the country.
I guess it just doesn't sound proper. I would prefer for the investor. We're reviewing the written work of an investigation. That person has over 20 years of experience. I'm very familiar right here in Detroit. Oh, yeah. So that was the rationale for that. Individual and we believe it will be a benefit to the citizens of Detroit. If that individual
assist. Thank you, sir. Mr. Chair.
Yes, through the chair. I get the hang on, hang on. Thank you. Commissioner Carter.
Thank you. Um, how many of these individuals left during the pandemic for other jobs and how many left with who? How many contributed to the
backlog?
As far as I'll back that up. I believe all of them left within the last two years with the exception of one and that was prior to the pandemic. Every investigator has cases that they have left behind because they were actively working. So once you're you're actively working and you just leave you,
you'd like to know how many cases
we can
bring you that number but I just wanted to explain that Yes. When a person actively leaves they have a caseload. So yes, cases are left with us.
Yes, Commissioner, okay, through the chair, so they're not mandatory to come in the office.
And work? No, it's not mandatory. But initially, yes, they will have to come in receive some cases. And we're going to work that out, though. There will be some on site work conducted.
Okay. Any further any further? No. I'm also saying I
just want to I think their proposal again is reasonable and makes sense. It's wise to try to get rid of the backlog. I'm just concerned about the process. And I just think maybe we might need a little more time to ensure that we are dotting all the I's and crossing all our T's. So that again, we can have credibility with the public about how we proceeded in this process.
Right. And I liked this dialogue. But again, when we sent this this information out, we asked you guys, for a solution. Come up with one we asked you to you have three ways you could have done. Email, Mr. Brown, you could call Mr. Brown, you could email a senior investigator Cromwell you could call him you could have emailed the chair you could have called the chair. So all your concerns would have been addressed before we got to this table to the chair by hoping was that we were going to come in here what a plan like it is right now and try to get these backlogs down. Unless you guys have a better plan. I would love to hear it. And that's what I've been asking for four weeks. If you have a plan, tell the chair or tell some commissioners tell the personnel and training what the plan is to get the backlog down. We tried it. We tried it the other way and that just did not work. And we all know how bad at handling. So that's what I'm asking. But you guys want to hold this off.
We'll take a vote motion.
There's a motion on the table.
The motion question, so let's call it a boat if there's no other part of the question. Mr. Brown Can you want to do roll call please?
Yes. Mr. Chair? Yes. Missing hope. Yes. Missing but not Yes. Missing a bank. Yes. I'm sorry.
What did he say? Mission of banks. Yes.
Missing a burden. Yes. Missing a card now. Missing a more. Yes.
Mr. Presley now Mr. Chair, that was six years vote in two no votes.
Motion passed. So
yes, Commissioner Burton voted. So what passes? Yes.
Congratulations.
Make sure you get in touch with them and there'll be starting quickly. What's that? What's that start date the 23rd.
I hope so. Yes. I just want to make one correction. I think there was a comment made that they would be doing five cases a week. That's not accurate.
No, she needs more hours ago. Okay, to get the two 327
math 34 Okay.
All right. Um, now, other new business once again. personnel and training. This is very important.
Commissioner Hernandez. He's the chair of the personnel and training he just sent you guys like email or key dates. So for the public. The week of January January to 30 of the candidates review and interview will be conducted. At the close of business on the 28th is when the postings will come down. February
the 10th. That's a Friday.
That's when we're going to be getting together and and you guys are going to be recommended. Some candidates forearm reviewing Thursday, there were to 16 candidate recommendations were presented to the full board for
approval. So we have we have
five people in personnel and training. Commissioner Hernandez is the chair. We got Commissioner Burton Commissioner more Commissioner Carter and Commission Commissioner Bodnar. I'm I'm asking you guys to stay in constant contact with Commissioner Hernandez because he is very thorough what he did just if you check your emails right now, so please stay in constant contact with him and people pay to interview these candidates. We need you to be there. We need to be there. And if you can't be there, please tell the chair. I'll tell Commissioner Hernandez and I will sit in for one or you can sit him for both and I can send him one. These are two very important positions and you guys have been put to the task to make recommendations to the Board on who's going to lead this board until 2023 and beyond with the new chair, new board secretary and the new chief investigator. So you got a big heavy load to put together so I'm figuring with this team you guys got right here. You shouldn't be able to make it happen.
Any questions on that? Mr. Chairman,
I have a motion I would like to put on the table. Yes, sir.
Okay, here we go again. I'm moving for our citizen complaints filed. Where body worn camera footage is not provided will be administratively closed, as sustained, no body worn camera provided.
That's probably second. Any discussion?
All in favor, aye. Aye. All opposed. All right. Motion passed.
Make sure we put that in.
Okay, now um,
is that new other no one other new business. Have a motion to adjourn. Almost. Any discussion? All in favor? Aye. Aye. Media is now adjourn. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you to our precinct. Commander.
recording stopped you believe I'm in recess. Thank you sir. John, yeah. Are you doing
good all my all my bad experience
with 34 cases
made the myth the people are the bitty things. Easy to see in the minutes for the meeting. Those are the ones that as amended. Absolutely. A lot of so I didn't want it to be that way. You mean