All right, the city council format session will now come to order.
The purpose please call the roll.
Councilmember Scott Vinson. Councilmember Fred Daryl. Hall The third council member Leticia Johnson present councilmember Gabriela Santiago Romero present. Councilmember Mary waters present. Councilmember Angela Whitfield Callaway, Councilmember Coleman Young the second council president pro tem James Tate, Council President Mary Sheffield present. Madam President, you have a quorum.
All right, there being a quorum, we are back in and we will proceed with our agenda.
Madam President, yes. Let me just say thank you for lunch. Thank you so very much.
You bought I'm glad you enjoy it. I'm glad you guys enjoy a good long day today. All right, so we will now go back to our agenda and Mr. Clerk.
Madam President, we are at line item 15.1 under unfinished business
so we are
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Council member Winfield Callaway and when it's snowing a roll call on line 15.1.
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we will actually be in Santiago Amuro. Right. Because yeah, yeah, I'm here I'm here. Yep. And member Callaway is present as well. The Carquinez member have always present.
Madam President, I apologize councilmember Santiago Romero. And we're just gonna roll call on me. 15.1
Councilmember Santiago Ramiro. Thank you, Madam
President. I move to take from the table an ordinance to amend chapter 17 of the 2019 Detroit city code, finance Article Five purchasing and supplies by amending Division One goods and services division a generally by amending section 17 Dash five dash one definitions to provide an additional definitions for the division by amending and renaming section 17 Dash five dash 12 major purchases solicitation of bids comparison of equalization credits for bids limited bidding documentation should be made available prohibitions against an approved assignments or subcontractors required clearances for purchases required clearances for construction projects, prohibitions related to the construction workforce development and construction workforce investments businesses exemptions and amending and remaining 17 Dash five dash 13 non major purchases solicitation of bids. Comparison of equalization credits and bids and application of equalization credits for bids required clearances required clearances for construction projects, prohibitions related to construction workforce development and construction Workforce Investment businesses, exceptions and by adding division seen decrease supply schedule by amending section 17 Dash five dash 57 requests for quotations to provide for additional definitions. For the division. Additional equalization credits and clearances, clarification and amendments to the bidding process and other technical changes laid on the table October 24 2023.
Right Hearing no objections that action will be taken councilmember Santiago Ramiro
Madam President members are Hall has joined us Amador Hall
Thank you Madam President. I move the ordinance be passed I'm sorry. Move the ordinance be placed on the order of third reading consider read.
I'm gonna move to for discussion now. Is that correct Dr. Powers we're after this one
where you can have an app.
It's, it's open now we can open an app for discussion. Okay. All right. Thank you. Okay. So we'll open it now for discussion on the proposed responsible contracting ordinance and I would like attorney long to please be promoted. Right. Good afternoon, Attorney long. Good afternoon. All right. I just wondered if you could briefly I know that there were several changes that were made in the committee last week that addressed a lot of the concerns from my colleagues and if you could just briefly go over the changes that were made at the committee level and then we can just address any outstanding concerns today.
There were changes made at the council president just I'm sorry if I may have one moment to find my there were changes made to update the definition of Detroit headquartered business to revert back to what it was prior to this amendment being proffered. There was a removal of the employee income clearance. There was a change in the count back to $1,000. And the equalization credits for Detroit headquartered in workforce development, were adjusted to 3%. And then there was that Scriveners errors that I had identified. That was corrected in the in the in the chart. correct document would have a footer on the right hand side of replacement 1116 1923
What is information? Just I think there's something was said incorrectly. I want to make sure member Benson you said the tray headquarter was reduced to 3%.
No, no, no,
we only reduced from from six to three. The new two proposed clearances were reduced from six to 3% headquartered in the trade base, and residents have not been touched
or it's not what hurts wanted to verify. Okay, that is that is
accurate events and my apologies for being unclear, sir.
All right, anything additional attorney law.
The threshold President Excuse me, please the threshold was raised from the initial amount to I want to confirm I believe it was $1 million.
All right. Thank you. And councilmember Benson now that you submitted a memorandum did you want to address this now or?
Yes. So thank you, the committee members and thank you, Madam President for bringing this forward. So the committee members made those changes as requested from the previous memo. The last requested amendment would be on page three of this ordinance which brings it under Section 17 tech five tag one when it comes to the definition of corporate accountability clearance. And so a corporate accountability clearance provided through a submission of affidavit by the business's Chief Executive Officer or authorized designee to the Office of contracting and procurement which attest to construction contractors compliance with the following requirements a contract of employees had the required licenses registrations and certificates required before the work which makes a lot of sense. Next, we had number two which the contractor has not had any licenses, registrations or certificates required for the performance of the contract revoked in the past five years and the contractor has not been disbarred. or suspended by any federal state or local government agency or authority in the past three years. My suggestion is to remove numbers two and three, which I believe are double or overly onerous and reduce the ability of our departments to manage our portfolio of contractors.
Any discussion on the amendment to remove two and three from the corporate accountability clearance?
Is there a motion motion? There's a motion to remove line items two and three from the corporate accountability clearance. Are there any objections and you can show me as a no. Any additional objections?
number waters, actually missing to have a Romero Member Santiago mural
and objection number Johnson council member Johnson so that motion does fail. All right, Attorney long was there anything additional from a technical standpoint that we need to discuss with responsible contracting? No, ma'am. Okay. All right. There's no additional questions or concerns. Again, I want to thank the committee and all of my colleagues for their amendments in suggestions to the ordinance I think we have well well above and beyond to address a lot of the concerns that have been raised and looking forward to continue to work with all those impacted to ensure that everyone benefits from these proposed credits. All right, so member door Have you would like to continue moving this forward?
Thank you, Madam President. I move that the ordinance be passed as submitted.
Here Hearing no objections that action will be taken. Councilmember DuBois.
Thank you, Madam President. I move that the ordinance be moved that the ordinance be passed as submitted.
There being a row GPA required with the clerk please call the roll.
Council President Pro Tem take. Yes. Councilmember waters? Yes. Councilmember Whitfield Callaway. Yes. Councilmember young?
Yes.
Council President Sheffield. Yes. Councilmember Benson. Yes. Councilmember Hall? Yes. Council member Johnson. Yes. Councilmember Santiago Romero. Yes. Nine yeas, zero nays.
The ordinance is approved. Councilmember Jirga.
Thank you, Madam President. I move the title to the ordinance be confirmed.
Hearing no objections that action will be taken. Again, thank you to all of my colleagues,
Madam President. Thank you just wanted to add So in regards to the comment that you just made. I would like to have some further discussion about this. Particular ordinance and amendments in the future. Just wanting to be sure that it is highly effective and supportive of Detroit residents, in addition to the businesses that will be impacted by the current ordinance. Thank you, Madam President.
Thank you and I am with you wholeheartedly. Want to continue the discussion around how we ensure that everyone benefits particularly small base nutrient based businesses as well. So looking forward to those continued discussions. Thank you, member Johnson. All right, from the Office of contracting and procurement
Madam President, there's one contract up for vote today from the budget Finance and Audit Senate Committee. It is contract number 600 by five by five. Once you present city funding to write janitorial supplies for various departments, contractors, Arrow office supply company, total contract amount $2,327,500. And this is a city wide contract. Councilmember Hall a resolution 15.2.
Council member Dr. Hall. Thank you,
Madam President Move for approval for line item 15.2.
Any objections? Hearing no objections, the one resolution will be approved.
request a waiver for line item 15.2.
waiver has been requested, Hearing no objections that action will be taken from the Board of Review
councilmember Hall to resolutions, line item 15.3 and 15.4.
Councilmember Durva
Thank you Madam President. line item 15.3 is a resolution of authorization for the amended 2020 for home owner property exemption I hope policy and guidelines to amend 2024 Hope application packet and line item 15.4 is a resolution of authorization for the approval of the homeowners property exemption program applications through 2023 to 2023 or there may be a Scriveners error, but the whole carry forward move for approval for line item 15.3 and 15.4.
motion has been made for approval. Are there any objections? Hearing no objections the resolutions will be approved the three resolutions will be approved
request a waiver for line items 15.3 and 15.4.
Alright, labor has been requested, Hearing no objections that action will be taken from the office of the city clerk City Planning Commission.
Madam president actually we believe we skipped some line item 15.5 Starting from the Office of the Chief Financial Officer, Office of the assessor Council remember there are three resolutions laminins 15.5, to 13.7.
I bet Yep. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Clary. Councilmember Durva
Thank you, Madam President. I will take up line item 15.5 separately line item 15.5 is a resolution of authorization for the renewal of the special assessment district for the Detroit golf club Palmer woods and Sherwood Forest Move for approval for nine out of 15.5
All right motion has been made any discussion on 15.5? Hearing none, any objections? Hearing no objections the one resolution will be approved.
I'd like to request a waiver on line item 15.5.
All right waiver has been requested. Hearing no objections that action will be taken. Remember Dr. Hall?
Thank you Madam President. line item 15.6 as well as 15.7 are to payment in lieu of taxes pilots. One is Meyer Senior Living dividend Housing Association limited partnership that's 15.6 and the other one is 15.7. Myers, SR two limited dividend Housing Association Limited Partnership Move for approval for line items 15.6 and 15.7.
motion has been made for approval. Are there any objections? Hearing no objections, the resolution will be approved. Madam Chair. Yes,
I'd like to request a waiver on online item 15.6 and 15.7. Both of those projects are in district two. Thank you Madam Chair.
Okay, waiver has been requested, Hearing no objections that action will be taken. From the office of the city clerk City Planning Commission,
council Mr. Horner, resolution number 15.8.
Councilmember Dubois
Thank you Madam President. line item 15.8 is a neighborhood enterprise zone certificate application for the construction of two new single family houses at 1783 and 1789. Fisher in the East Village amended neighborhood enterprise zone area. Move for approval of line item 15.8.
motion has been made are there any objections? Hearing no objections the one resolution will be approved.
Under resolutions, Councilmember hall two resolutions, line items 15.9 and 15 point 10
member draw.
Thank you Madam President. line item 15.9 is a resolution of authorization for the Detroit splat supply schedule number two security services janitorial and custodial services and line item 15. Point 10 Is the Detroit supplies as well. Number three for security services. Move for approval for line items 15.9 and 15 point 10.
motion has been made for approval. Are there any objections? Hearing no objections the two resolutions will be approved
request a waiver for line items 15.8 15.9 and 15 point 10.
All right. A waiver has been requested, Hearing no objections that actually will be taken from the mayor's office.
Councilmember Johnson a resolution line item 16.1.
Council member Johnson Thank you madam president Move for approval on line item 16.1. The appointment of Charles Sims as the Fire Commissioner.
All right motion has been made for the approval. Are there any objections? Hearing none, the one resolution will be approved.
Madam President. Yes, I'd like to request a waiver for line item 16.1.
waiver has been requested, Hearing no objections that action will be taken from the Office of contracting and procurement. Madam
President, there are six contracts for vote today from the internal operations standing committee. First up we have contract number 60057811 2%. City funding to buy online investigative software and services for multiple city departments. Contract is Thomson Reuters total contract amount $1,678,175.52. And this contract is for do it. The next contract is contract number 6005591 1%. City funding to provide legal advice regarding the development of renewable energy contract is written oak Law Group PC total contract amount $200,000 And this contract is for the law department. The next contract was contract number of 60058171 2%. City funding the right legal representation for the city of Detroit and zoning matters on a case by case basis. Contractors Miller Johnson snail and Kaminski PLC total contract amount $50,000 And this is for the law department is well. The next contract is contract number 60017238. To one to present city funding amendment number two to provide an increase of funds for the Community Education Commission goal line after school program. Contract is Community Education Commission. total contract amount $5 million and this is a non departmental contract. The next contract is contract number 6005685. Once you present city funding to write third party administration for absence management FMLA plus other leave types for city employees contractors comp one administrators Inc total contract amount $1,173,900. This contract is for human resources. The last contract is contract number 6005617 1%. City funding, right Real Estate Services and Relocation Assistance Council is Zosima PC total contract amount $400,000 And this contract is for the law department. Councilmember Johnson six resolutions law 16.2 16.7
Thank you, Councilmember. Johnson.
Thank you, Madam President Move for approval with discussion line item 16.2 through 16.7.
All right, discussion.
I just wanted to set up for colleagues if they had any questions,
discussion, discussion as well, corporate counsel Are you here for the legal contracts regarding the firm's if you can come up briefly. Just for line item 16.7. I know that we've heard from public comments that they have some areas that may have some concerns with the solar farms coming into their community and then not having the overwhelming support of those who reside within those areas. But can you just speak to what is being proposed? I know this is a first step is not actually approved with the locations but there's some legal work that has to be done first, before we move to that thing, so if you could just speak to what is before us, please Yes, ma'am.
Through the Chair, I am looking for my colleague, Tricia Stein, I am not the expert on solar farms, but what I will say is this, that the process that the administration has described where they have sent out for any number of applications made by neighborhood organizations assisted by environmental organizations interested in sustainability. Nine proposals have been submitted. The RFP excuse me, the proposals are being now evaluated. The legal services that we are now discussing or that's before this body have to do with at a point when the decision is made to go forward based on selection, first by the administration and then that approval of the designated areas by this body. Then relocation services and other items associated with moving people who want to be moved out of the areas that they are in. This is work that disaster team has done continually for the city of Detroit and have a high degree of expertise.
Thank you. Councilmember waters.
Thank you. If you recall on Wednesday morning, you know, said that I had some concerns as to whether or not residents were being notified if in fact, they signed off on on on this process. And so there was some folks here today, who said they do not they did not do that. And that causes me some some concerns. And I'm really extremely concerned now about eminent domain because if you have some folks that just don't want to leave, I said that on Wednesday. I don't want to see them after the this should be strictly volunteer. And so but eminent domain, basically and I'm not an attorney, it says if you don't leave leave, I'm gonna make you leave. Isn't that what it means?
So yes, ma'am. And we we were going to wait not we work. The City of Detroit will have the ability under the that portion of the state law that says for utilities and other environmental improvements that you can condemn property, but as I indicated based on the math that I've seen, the number of condemnation. Property takings that this body would have to approve is going to be across the entire city of Detroit, in the single digits that 99.9% of the persons who have thus far who owned their home, who actually have a PRP designation, have indicated an overwhelming willingness to participate in the process and when the council sees the outlines of the various solar fields being proposed, you will actually see the line zig and zag purposely in a way to be sure that people who were in the field but were adamant about whether or not they wanted to move or not, to the degree that we could were excluded. So I do think that Councilperson waters, you are going to have the opportunity to ask every single question that you're presenting today, based on data in front of you where you have the actual maps and will you will have the actual addresses. So there is much much much more to come.
Madam President,
Madam Chair, if I may,
Mr. Washington one second.
I just it is so scary because you know, and I was talking to the neighborhood guy, and I say, I'm sorry.
Ray Solomon, the sex,
man, I'm sorry. I, you
know, I'm getting a little worked up here. Um, when it comes to the community, I really get worked up. So I'm thinking that you that you probably as neighborhood by neighborhood, you probably need a signed document by each resident. I don't see anything else making me comfortable even because if when you go into the into the community and you hold these meetings, everybody's not gonna show up. I said that true. They're not going to show up. Next thing you're going to know they're going to say they were not asked. This is too critical. People need to we need to be ensured that folks have had the opportunity. Everybody in that particular neighborhood had an opportunity to weigh in. I just think that's the right thing to do.
Through the Chair. That's exactly what what we could do. We can have a signed document and have the yeas and the nays and bring it back to council once we get to that point past this evaluation point. But I'll say for my personal front door, it looks like a flyer we tossed but we absolutely flyer every single house before every meeting but again, it does look like a regular flyer. You know, I eat junk mail. But for those that came today, I will reach out and make sure they get invited there but I love the idea of having something signed where we can move forward with it.
Is there we need to make that official or anything like that because I just need to make sure that when you bring something a community back to us that in fact we see something signed yea or nay by each member of that particular
community. We agree we actually have been talking about it and working on it through the chair. So yes, yes, we can make that. Thank you.
That is absolutely Thank you Madam Chair. I've heard from a number of residents in district two that oppose solar farms being in their backyard, and I want to go on the record today. I oppose solar farms in district two. I've been bypassed in the process. I get the flyers after the fact from a resident. And so for the record, I oppose solar farms in district two. Thank you, Madam Chair,
Ranking Member Callaway. Any additional questions or concerns regarding these contracts? Yes, and number number young? Yeah,
I just wanted to tell I mean, I know this is a this may be off topic, because I know we're talking about legal work in order to make this happen. But I just want to know from my perspective, but from your perspective, Have we had any discussion in terms of the savings? There read the savings that the residents might receive? And that's my big concern. I think that to be able to do all this to use, you know, eminent domain and condemnation. Um, I think that at some point in time, you're what we haven't really had a clear understanding is, is where the savings for the residents now I can tell you that 10% of Detroit is now spend about 30% of their income on energy. About 54% of African Americans Detroit, our energy burn rates be more than 10% of your income on energy costs. I'm assuming the reason why you're doing this is to be able to reverse that or reduce those costs. Can you explain that, please?
Yes, thank you for pointing that out. That's one of the big things that we wanted to focus on. What I'm Jacqueline, associate director, sustainability, Director of sustainability for the city. I am Jack I come so to one of the things we wanted to focus on with the community benefits was what you're talking about the energy burden of the folks around the solar farms and making sure we're providing those efficiency upgrades directly to those people. To ultimately lower the energy costs for them across the board. There are multiple options on the table in terms of potentially putting solar on the homes which will lower their energy costs and the energy efficiency upgrades that we're looking at for this process as well. So we definitely took that into consideration when we're discussing the the community benefits.
Will you have a percentage reading attorneys about a savings that they get? I'm not saying you have to do that now and it's a preliminary process. But as you're going through this, it would be nice for me because I had a question about this in my community meeting that they asked specifically about this and you know, environmentalist asked about this, and I said I was concerned, I support it, but I want to make sure this actually has savings for the citizens. Otherwise, I cannot support that. So I think it's important that you come out message. What I'm not saying now but in the future as you're going in your neighborhood your community to message what that is, so people can be clear on what to expect. Corporation Counsel, if I may, the condemnation process here that they're talking about us Do we know how many halls actually affecting in the aggregate
how many homes that could be affected in the aggregate? Yeah, you gotta remember we know because we because remember, we the the actual size of the solar farms have not been selected. Okay, so we can give you that count. Okay, later on in the process,
and I just wanted to say because we're talking about member waters brilliantly talked about condemnation, and from my understanding, it's a process. Yeah, for that necessity for taking public part of that just compensation. And then it's actually public use. Are you saying that this would fit into all those legally to be able to eat and engage in condemnation?
That's exactly what we're saying.
I just want to make sure that you're done. Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you, Madam President. Tricia. Stein, mayor's Chief Strategy Officer, just to give you some more specificity on those numbers and to answer your question, because we did have a lengthy we had a lengthy we had a lengthy discussion about this last week at at committee. The nine finalists that were announced last week. There are owner 56 Owner Occupied homes in those nine areas which equal 337 total acres, so 56 occupied homes and 181 private homes where their renters that are located. Those are the conversations that we are having right now. those individuals to see if they voluntarily want to accept the offer. So we're doing double the appraised value is what the mayor has announced double the appraised value for the owner occupied homes and then the the market value for the private owned homes. 18 months free rent for renters, and plus moving costs for everybody who voluntarily accepts to move and this is the process that we're in right now. Absolutely. The signatures for the homeowners is what we are doing and going door to door mayor is giving a deadline for January 31 to have those signatures collected and that's what we will bring back to this body after the budget is done next year and we're anticipating March or April to bring back to this body those results and the winners from the nine finalists. That this that's not what we're asking for today. Because we really do feel like we need to have the community engagement continue that has been happening over the last few months. And that we do the only thing we're asking today for these contracts is the subject matter experts to ensure that we have the real estate, guidance and relocation services in a coordinated fashion. And then also be able to have a clean energy expert put the city in the best position for an RFP to bring that back to you and talk about the energy cost savings and talk about clean energy development.
Maria. Thank you, Madam President. Mr. I just wanna make sure I get this correct, because from my understanding, they were saying that they hadn't drawn the lines yet. So the people who you told me was that based on a rough draft or where you think that might be, but the lines that have been decided because it could be a situation based on what the lines have decided we may not decide to take any money at all correct based on how limited it
was a chair. Absolutely. That is understanding. The nine finalists were announced last last week based on applications that were submitted. 10 applications were submitted. Only nine violent finalists were announced because one area it was divided if they wanted it and so they that we didn't move forward with him as a finalist. And the areas as Corporation council have mentioned that we're taking a lot of effort to make sure that are only included those residents and those owner occupied homes that voluntarily want to move.
And these homeowners they'll be able to take advantage of the Governor's Energy Program that was just announced this week. Right?
Absolutely. That is part of the coordinated effort that director I can love Soto explained to make sure that we're not only providing community benefits, but also leveraging additional incentives that are available to them through the state and the federal government.
Thank you. Thank you. Madam President.
Thank you, member young potentate ever. No,
thank you, Madam President. Good afternoon, everyone. Question I know that I had asked it may not have gotten to you at this point. But I previously previously asked about is there any thought within this solar program to work to relocate folks back in the city of Detroit because right now, it appears that it's basically we provided you fines and wherever you go is where you go, talk to us a little bit about how we are doing everything we can to best ensure that these individuals who say you know what I want to move from this location to elsewhere, that elsewhere is to try because those are tax dollars that we certainly don't want to lose and certainly cannot afford to lose. Madam
president through you to President Pro Tem Tate that is absolutely our intent, and it is the effort that we're doing right now on a voluntary basis to find comparable homes and housing. Some individuals have said they've lived their whole life and now they want to have a senior center and move into senior living. So we're providing those relocation services. That contract that is before you today for Zaza is to ensure that we have additional capacity within the city. To that we are working with every individual homeowner who voluntarily wants to move to find comparable housing to keep them in the city and to make sure that it meets their needs. But here in the city, as you know, we talked about when when we met census is also something reports up to me. So ensuring that Detroit errs are here in the city and stay in the city is a top priority of mine as well.
Do we have anything in terms of guiding principles or anything that's written that we can refer to in the event that I'm interested to verify you've got a great track record but you know, things happen at time. So is there anything that can guide us from this table to know that that is the direction that will actually be implemented versus what we're saying? Here on the mind? Yep, through
the chair. Absolutely fair. Part of the first task of the corporation Council and I discussed today that we would like sasmar to do if this contract is move forward is to put together a full relocation plan. We could submit that to council as well so you can see it in writing because that is what we will be at now. We'll we'll be working with residents and sitting down and talking to them not only providing them comp, but also the services with moving cost and then relocation which is part of the state guidelines that we have to follow in an offer them relocation. Services. We
look forward to seeing that information. Absolutely. Absolutely. And
interest just really quick. Based on the conversations that have taken place thus far you may have answered this corporation council didn't want to get clarity how many people do you expect not want to accept the offer of that our homeowners within the proposed maps of the 90,000 or I know you say for renters, they get a year free but primarily for homeowners. Do you know offhand roughly from feedback, how many are not supportive of that and are wanting to stay in their their homes? Yeah,
Madam President, so we just started to have those conversations on a one on one basis on part of that preliminarily, is one that occurred at the community meetings when the applications were submitted by the community groups and the maps were drawn. That's how you'll see some of those interesting designs, as Corporation Council mentioned is some individual says I don't have I don't want to be part of the solar array, please carve me out. So that is part of those discussions that have happened and now we'll lean in and have them on a one on one basis, make them offers based on a double fair market value at a minimum of 90,000 As you said, and then start to lead and get signatures as member Waters said and then bring those results back to you. So part of it I I'd say there's probably about a handful out of the nine finalists that we were able to carve out and then now they're part of the community benefits area and they will get the community benefits because they want to stay in their home and stay in that area.
Alright, so I know district five doesn't have any in our district, but I kind of feel like there needs to be a little bit more work done. Comfortable, especially with the relocation and real estate service contract. So that's why I'm not going to be supported today. But just want to state that for the record. I'm still interested in seeing how the continued engagement takes place. So if there any additional questions, one, one this
discussion? No, this is a
different contract a different one different. Go ahead. 16.5 16.5.
That's the goal line program. Okay. So just question in through yourself either to the chair to the administration. This is an increase and they identify after school programs or academics after school academics, but it says as valence. And so just one of the things we determine from the websites and taskforce but education after school programs are so critical. Now we have least 500 youth captured daily after school, but are we providing after school programming are we providing tutoring? And if so, the quality the metrics how are we measuring that providing something that's substantive and value add and not just an opportunity to play after school that we haven't captured? We should be providing something substantive to them.
Mr. Washington
Yes, ma'am. Chair to promote Giuliana smoke
same issue. You have the same issue. The Hill Okay, she has been promoted. That afternoon, everybody. Yes, thank you. Thank you for that question. That is something that you're very capable staff did requests you'd be proud to know that they have asked that. We do a lot of it's not babysitting after school. We do a lot of you know different kinds of afterschool programming both swimming, soccer, yoga. We also do work with homework, but your staff did say that you want to see more tutoring and we can get the we work with the schools. The staff at goalline do work with the schools to see what special needs any of the students may have. And it could be just you know, a kid needs to get more energy out before they go home at night or it could be he's having trouble with his math problem or she may be need more help with reading so we are able to focus and have a continuation of what folks are learning in school for to get them to help you know get better at their studies too. Okay,
so the report indicates academic Tutoring and Academic Support in parentheses as available. So does that mean if we're filling up to it, we provide that does that mean if we have a contract that a certain time we provided so what does that mean as available and how committed are we to ensuring that our kids have an opportunity for
we're very we're very committed to it. I don't see where you're seeing as available. So my apologies for that.
We have from our
staff.
Oh, okay. As their overview of the contract.
Oh, okay. Okay, I'm just looking at this little 16.5 things. You know, we have programming we base it on the needs of the students that are there K through eight, and we you know, we do have we are in very close contact with the schools and and with the administration with every one of the schools so we we know these folks that are coming to this after school program and what their needs are, so maybe that's what it means as needed from beach kids. Maybe one year we might need to have it's fine. We don't need the extra tutoring, but we have the programming that will help it is not a babysitting program.
So it says as available, not as needed. So then we'll go back to the question though. Do we have a contract with the tutoring provider? Do we have tutors on site? So
how would we have we have just
finished please? So how are we providing this type of academic support in house and is it I mean, is it prescriptive? Do we have some type of program I mean, how are we doing this
as strategic partners are the programming providers we didn't have to why previously but now we have the strategic community partners who are fabulous Chanel Newton and they have you know as needed Ricky fountain who heads up the program, like I said, knows all the kids and what their needs are, and we are, we're there to help them to.
Okay, so we have metrics of how this is working, or kids getting or they are their SATs scores or their graduation rates. What are we metric? I'm just going to ask you one more time. Can I just finish the statement so how are we measuring the success of that program? Is it I mean, just are we looking at it that way from not then that's fine, then we just need to do that moving forward. And I'm really looking forward to seeing the metrics of success as we provide academic support to our youth because they needed this is a great way for the city to lean in to helping our kids get to the next level because what we hear is that our kids aren't prepared for the academic rigors for college. We also hear that our kids aren't prepared for the academic rigors of of trade union schools and classes and apprenticeship programs. So just want to make sure that we're at least looking and leaning into that to help our kids.
Right. Well, just to clarify, this is a K through eight program so there won't be SATs scores or such. And because of COVID we didn't have great data to to show what was needed because the schools but we were getting that and we I can supply that with you how many kids are coming every day, what the programming is, what the parents want to see more. We're in very close contact with the parents and what the kids want, and then working with the administration of the schools to see what they think they need. So it's a program that has come back incredibly robustly since COVID. And it's only going to get bigger and better because of the funding from this and funding from the state.
Okay, so I'm not hearing the actual particulars and how we're making those, how we're measuring success and so I'll be asking for report from this program to do that is looking forward to seeing how we're going to lean in and make sure that our kids are getting prepared to go to the next level. Thank you.
Thank you remember Benson number Callaway,
thank you Madam Chair. This is an amazing program and is held at the Northwest activity center. And I've been over there a number of times and I hosted a coffee hour there. Just this past Monday. Mr. Newton and Mr. Fountain are doing an outstanding job with tutoring offering after school services, healthy snacks. And everybody is welcome to go with her and just do a walk through they have a waiting list of about 400 students. They provide transportation and the the parents just have to come and pick up the students at six o'clock. So as soon as school recesses, the buses are there to pick up the students transport them to the northwest activity center and they're there till approximately six o'clock engage students, financial literacy, gaming, learning how to be an entrepreneur. They're doing amazing things over there. So I would encourage all of my colleagues and everyone at the sound of my under the sound of my voice to visit the Northwest Northwest activity center and meet Mr. Newton who runs the program. And Mr. Fountain who's over who's the director. So it's an amazing program and I want them to continue to do the amazing work that they're doing with educating those students and engaging them and keeping them off the streets right after school. They have a safe place to go and they're learning. Thank you Madam Chair. Thank
you member Callaway waters. got water.
Oh, thank you. I just wanted to reiterate that we do some additional work with with our children around literacy Virtual Reality kinds of things. We've got to meet the kids where they are other virtual learning types of activities. I hope that we can consider those kinds of things. Mr. Callaway, is this the same money that you put in the budget back during budget season? Yes, made out through you madam president. Originally? Yes. Oh, I want to thank you for that. Absolutely. All right. Thank you, Madam President.
Thank you. Any additional questions or comments on these contracts? And member Johnson has moved all of them six resolutions for approval. Are there any objections? Or women Madam Chair? Yes. Remember Callaway? I think line item 16 points to 16.7.
So I'm gonna do
that to call me I was gonna start with number Callaway.
So, Madam Chair, if you can show me as a note one 16.3. So no, and if you can show me as I know, volt one 16.7
or so no.
Thank you, Madam Chair.
And Councillor waters, low on 16.36 and four, seven.
Okay, so no, hold him tight.
If I do want to make sure that we go a little bit deeper into line item 16.7. So I'm going to be in opposition at this point and no vote on 16.7.
So no, you can show me as a note one 16.3 and 16.7.
Purple so no.
Hearing no further objections. The sixth resolutions are approved. Thank you,
Madam Chair. Yes, like to request a waiver on 16.5 16.6 Madam Chair and thank you all right
waiver has been requested, Hearing no objections that action will be taken from the law department.
Councilmember Johnson 21 resolutions 16.8 16 point 28 Noting that line item 16.8. was reported out of committee without recommendation 16.9 and 16 point team were postponed from last week former session and 916 point 19 and 16 point 21. were reported out of committee with recommendation to deny.
Thank you, Councilmember Jensen.
Thank you, Madam President. Move for approval on online item 16.8 through 16 point 28. These are various lawsuit settlement requests and requests for legal representation and indemnification.
All right motion has been made for approval. Are there any objections? The objections? Several of them so let's start from the left are down with us. Mr. Johnson.
Thank you. Member jazzy objection line item 16 point 1316 point 19 in 16 Point 21
There was no
right and under Santiago Romero. objection to 16.9 16 points. 1116 point 13 and 16 point 19.
So no.
Remember, cheer on 16 point 10. Do we cover that one?
Yes. We've already voted like 16 points to
kind of chair. I'd ask that we bring this back because we were supposed to have this company appear before us. And now it's here to for settlement. I have grave concerns about this particular settlement. We're talking about a proper Yes Madam Chair.
Yep. She was just saying we're in the middle of a boat.
So 16 point 10 yet. If you can show me as a no with a statement, and I'm hoping my colleagues will vote no. It's not a good contract. A good settlement rep. Thank you.
Thank you remember Callaway any additional
customer Scott Vincent 16.21 All right. Remember, why don't know
616 1430 1921
purple so no member Yeah.
Hey, man, President member young objection on 16 point 19 and 16 point 21.
Purple so no member waters.
Thank you Madam Prez. 16.8 wasn't part of this right. It was all right then. I didn't get a chance to discuss. So too late for that. No one 16.8
So no.
Madam Chair. Right.
Then present like to show me a no please on line items 19 Excuse me 16 point 19 and 16 point 21. The
Madam Chair I went back to 16 points in 10. If you can show me as a novel 16
point is Mr. Clerk if you could show me the No 116 points in 16 Point 90 and 16 point 21.
So no. Number draw. Yes,
I'd like to eject a six point 19 a 16 point 21
or so. No.
That's what Scott Benson known 60 point 19.
Purple so Nope. Madam president if that's all the knows line items 16 point 19 and 16 point 21 Fail.
Okay, so those two resolutions fail and the remaining resolutions will be approved. The Office of the city clerk
councilmember Johnson a resolution not item 16 point 29.
Councilmember Johnson
Thank you, Madam President. Move for approval. This is a petition for Model T automotive heritage complex Inc. and recognizing them as a nonprofit organization or charitable gaming license.
All right motion has been made for approval Are there any objections? Hearing excuse me Hearing no objections, the one resolution will be approved.
From the legislative policy division, Councilmember
Johnson two resolutions line item 16 point 30 and 16 point 31.
Council member Johnson Thank you, Madam
President Move for approval.
motion has been made to approve. And this is a resolution in support of Senate Bill 171 71 and the approval of the 2024 city council calendar. Hearing no objections. The two resolutions will be approved. Also member Johnson excuse me, I'm sorry from the legislative policy division.
Councilmember Johnson introduction of an ordinance line item 16 point 32.
Councilmember Johnson
Thank you, Madam President. I move that the ordinance be read twice by title order printed
immediately. For Jasna. If we can send this back to the committee actually, that's okay with you. We still have to have further discussion with Creo so it's not ready for public hearing.
Thank you, Madam President. Motion to stay in line item 16 point 32 and 33. Back to committee.
Motion has been made to send this item back locally items to committee. Hearing no objections, that action will be taken.
Madam president if I may, if I can be added to the line item 16 point 30 The resolution
16 point 30 Okay, the clerk would note to add member Doha
also know
from the under unfinished business
council president Bolton take in orders noting a roll call nine 17.1. Are you doing?
Yes, Madam Chair, we'd like to just point out one correction that needs to be made in the caption which is provided for item number 17.1. It's a fairly lengthy description and at the end of that description, it inaccurately makes reference to reconciling the provisions related to membership on the board of zoning appeals. That is not a part of this ordinance. That would be item number 17.3. So item 17.1. is what we refer to as the crematory ordinance.
Are you the mystery so I'm going to so again what needs to be changed? Is that this person here in him?
Yes, demon, the caption that's provided on your agenda. Oh, inaccurately makes reference to the number of members of the board of zoning appeals. This
part is Patrick. Yeah, the ordinances
is good.
All right. we will move forward with voting on one second.
Madam Chair, yeah. With the correction that he's making, we're going to receive the correction or does it move like this? This information about the BCA being in the ordinates.
Think that's what we're trying to figure out now, just to make sure we've done properly.
So, Madam President, it appears that the line on the third page of the document link in this line item 17.1. You're saying Dr. Bolger to strike the 1234567 If I'm on line seven, in it, where it says to reconcile the provision related to membership of on the board of zoning appeals with the same provision can be Detroit city charter charter charter, excuse me. You're saying eliminate that portion from this particular the verbiage on this particular document or the chair? That is correct. And you're saying that it does show up later in line item 17.3. But it is correctly in that particular document?
That is correct. All right.
We're on the same page.
All right, Mr. Clerk?
Council President Pro Tem Tate and ordinance No, take a roll call.
Madam President, I moved to take your table an ordinance to amend chapter 50 of the tri city code zoning by deleting article 14 development standards Division Three, architectural and site design standards subdivision seeing traditional traditional Main Street overlay areas section 50 Dash 14 Dash 448 building design standards. Vacant structures by amending article 12. Using regulations division three specific use standards subdivision F manufacturing and industrial uses section 50 Dash 12 Dash 367 crematory and by amending Article Two. Review and decision body decision making bodies Division five board board of zoning appeals section 50 dash two dash 63 membership terms of office compensation vacancies removal Article Six teen business zoning business zoning districts division three B to local business and residential districts section 50 dash nine dash 52 conditional retail service and commercial uses division four B three shopping districts section 50 dash nine dash 82 conditional retail service and commercial uses Division five B for general business district, section 50 dash nine dash 106 by right retails service and commercial uses division six B five major business districts section 50 dash nine dash 136 by right retail service and commercial uses division seven B six general services districts section 50 dash nine dash 166 by right retail service and commercial uses article 10 Industrial zoning districts division two m one limited industrial district section 50 Dash 10 Dash 16 by right retail service and commercial uses section 50 Dash 10 Dash 17 by right manufacturing and industrial uses division three into restricted industrial district section 50 Dash 10 Dash 46 by right retail service and commercial uses. Section 50 Dash 10 Dash 47 by right manufacturing and industrial uses division four m three general business district section 50 Dash 10 Dash seven six by right retail service and commercial uses. Section 50 Dash 10 Dash 77 by right manufacturing and industrial uses Division five M for intensive industrial district section 50 Dash 10 Dash 106 Buy right retail service and commercial uses section 50 Dash 10 Dash 107 virant manufacturing and industrial uses division six M five special industrial to manufacturing excuse me district section 50 Dash 10 Dash 107 by right manufacturing and industrial uses article 11 Special Purpose zoning districts and overlay areas division six transitional industrial district section 50 Dash 11 Dash 116 by right retail service and commercial uses division 11 s d two mixed use division excuse me section 50 Dash 11 Dash 266 by right retail service and commercial uses division 14 overlay subdivision B traditional Main Street overlay areas section 50 Dash 11 Dash three a five applicability of design standards exception article 12 Use regulations division one use table subdivision D retail service and commercial uses section 50 Dash 12 Dash seven zero a retail sales and service service and oriented subdivision e manufacturing and industrial uses section 50 Dash 12 Dash eight one industrial Service Division two general use services standards excuse me, section 50 dash one two dash 138 school building adaptive reuse provision, division three specific use standards subdivision C retail service and commercial uses. Generally section 50 Dash 12 Dash two three for mortuary or funeral home article 17 article 16 Excuse me. Our army Main article 14 rules of construction and divisions, definitions division two words and terms defined subdivision D letter C section 50 Dash 16 Dash 153 words in terms subdivision in letter P section 50 Dash 16 Dash 341 words and terms appendix at a letter A assignment of specific use types to general use categories division three letter C. Division 12 letter M. Division 16 letter P to bring this chapter the 2019 Detroit city code into alignment with the state of Michigan's cemetery Regulation Act of 1968. That's public act 251. By removing crematories as an allowed accessory to mortuaries and funeral homes to create a crematory or pet crematory principal land use label and designate appropriate zoning districts for such use to add the definitions for crematory and prep pet crematory to define specific use regulations for the crematory or pet crematory principle use and to remove provisions related to demolitions that are new being newly added to Chapter Eight Article Two of the 2019 Detroit city code laid on the table October 29 2023. Right period
Hearing no objections that actually will be taken President potentate
president I move that the ordinance he placed on the order of third reading and considered read.
Hearing no objection that action will be taken. President Pro Tem say I move
that the ordinance be passed as submitted. There being
a roll call required with the clerk please call the roll.
Councilmember waters. Councilman we're with your Katelyn. Yes. Councilmember. Council President Shifu. Yes. Council member Benson. Yes. Councilmember there Hall. Yes. Councilmember Johnston? Yes. Councilmember Santiago? Roberto? Yes. Council President Pro Tem Tate. Yes. Eight yeas, No nays. Zero nays.
The ordinance is approved Pro Tem Tate.
Madam President. I move the title of the ordinance be confirmed.
Hearing no objections that action will be taken.
Under Unfinished Business
Council President Brooks and take an ordinance noting a roll call line item 17.20
tymphany.
president I move to take from the table an ordinance to amend chapter 50 of the 2019 Detroit city code zoning by amending article 17 zoning district maps section 50 Dash 17 Dash 46 district map number 44 to revise the zoning classification for the block bounded by Selden Avenue to the north 18th Street to the east Magnolia Avenue to the south and Humboldt Avenue to the west from the existing PD planned development district. Zoning classification to the R five medium density residential district zoning classification and to revise the zoning classification for the LOC commonly known as 2640. Michigan Avenue from the existing R three low density residential zoning district classification to the V four general business district zoning classification laid on the table June 20 2023.
Hearing no objections that action will be taken potentate. President
a move to the ordinance be placed on the order of third reading and consider rated
Hearing no objections. But action will be taken potentate,
move to the ordinance be passed as submitted.
There being a low carb required with a park please call the roll. Councilmember
would feel kinda lame. Yes. Council President Sheffield. Yes. Councilmember Benson? Yes. Councilmember Hall? Yes. Councilmember Johnston? Yes. Councilmember Santiago Romero? Yes. Council President Pro Tem Tate. Yes. Councilmember waters. Yes. All right. Councilmember Young. I'm seven. Now nine yeas, zero nays. The
ordinance is approved. Pro Tem take
a president move the title of the ordinance be confirmed Hearing
no objections that action will be taken
under unfinished business
council president potentate in order to not have a roll call line item 17.3. No we're gonna have this item was reported out of committee without recommendation.
Council member proxy take none
a president I moved to take from the table an ordinance to amend chapter 50 of the 2019 Detroit city code zoning article to review and decision body decision making bodies Division five board of zoning appeals by amending section 50 dash two that 63 membership terms of office compensation, vacancies removal and section 50 dash two dash six five meetings to increase the number of meeting members excuse me on the board of zoning appeals to nine laid on the table June 27 2023.
Hearing no objections that action will be taken. President potentate
and the President are moved to the ordinance replaced on the order of third reading and considered read. Hearing
no objections that action will be taken Pro Tem take no precedent
moved that the ordinance be passed as submitted with discussion.
All right discussion.
Thank you so much. If this item came to committee, and there was a bit of discussion regarding the necessity of this one, and out of respect for case desire, it was moved out without recommendation the way that it worked appears that this is a desire to increase the number of members on the board of review again from seven to nine. There was mentioned that adding two more members would add parity to the actual council I countered and other members of the committee also indicated that this these these members that are appointed to the Board of Review are not they're not assigned to council members are actually the members of the entire body. So we every one of us have seven members on this particular Board of Review. I'm not one, not two, but all seven. As they move forward, anyone can make a recommendation regardless of what district you reside in or represent. So this is not a situation where I believe these two additional entity individuals are necessary. It does, again include increased the amount of funding that will go towards that particular body. And again, I just believe that is unnecessary at this time.
Madam President,
thank you member waters.
Thank you, Madam President. Of course, this is the ordinance that I've been working on for the past two years since my arrival, and even during budget season. Nobody wants said that to me. So I think this has something to do with who I may or may not be recommending. After all, it is up to this body. It is up to this body to vote any recommendation up or down. Now be careful about what you're asking for because you asked me if you're saying that I cannot make a recommendation as an at large member then and you also somebody asked me Well, are you the person that you want an appointment, right? Well, yes, I want to be able to make a recommendation for an appointment, just like the other seven members. And I don't believe that as an our at large member that we should be excluded. So please, I ask you to join me in my orders to expand the membership of the board of zoning appeals to the full two at large members. The BCA does some heavy lifting for the city by hearing appeals regarding enforcement of our zoning ordinances and has encountered his fair share as in doing so. I want to thank my colleagues for listening and responding to the challenges that this board has faced. And now I need you all to answer the call again. Expanding the BCA to allow the inclusion of to at large members will have a positive effect on city operations and constituent relations. In the past the BCA did have challenges with meeting space and quorum. Both issues have since resolved because the BCA has a dedicated meeting space in the Irma Henderson Auditorium, where we now said this oral issue and should be easy to pass once you consider that there are at large seats on other boards and commissions. For example, the Board of Review has two seats that are at large council members make make an appointment to the Board of Review is responsible for hearing appeals regarding property taxes, and the BCA as I said before hearing zoning. The boards are similar in their objectives and should be similar in their composition of members. Consider also the historical reasoning for using districts as a method of issuing appointments. District appointees are used to ensure that we have representation on our boards and commissions from across the city. There will be no bias towards one area of the city. Or another just because we're adding two at large seats to the BCA if anything, adding two seats will be able to broaden the consideration and care that the board will take to achieve their goals. It is my belief that adding two at large seats to the BCA will be a net positive, allowing the board to efficiently and quickly hear appeals relating to zoning and serve the city. I want to thank you Madam President and members for listening to me I I just I just cannot believe that that the two at large members will be denied an opportunity and I do ask you for your support. Thank you.
Thank you member waters Pro Tem followed by member Callaway followed by member Durga.
Thank you Madam President. So I'm not sure who threw you member waters you were going to be appointing I'd had no idea who it was. So my objection has nothing to do with that. That was raised I just want to make that very clear. It was indicated that the at large members would like to also make recommendations. As I continue to emphasize that already is available. That provision is currently available right now for all of us. So again, I don't have a member. Council President doesn't have a member you don't have We have seven all of us have seven members right now that represent this particular city of Detroit. We all have the ability to approve. We all have the ability to nominate, I just don't know what issue we're solving because it doesn't sound like we're creating any more efficiency. We're not solving a form issue is it's just adding a member or two members based upon the number of members that we have on this particular body. And again, it doesn't. I have not heard how it's going to increase efficiency. I may hear the word but I haven't heard how it's going to increase efficiency. or reduce costs or any of those things. So for that again, I I object myself personally, and I did not raise anything during I will say this during the budget process, but I did raise it prior to that. It appeared and I was out voted so I left it alone during the budget period he came back now this is my opportunity in the committee that I chair to have my voice heard. Thank you.
Thank you, bro. Tim. Member Callaway.
Yes, thank you Madam Chair. I do support expanding the BCA board from seven to nine we have nine council members to at large, ran district wide got 38,000 volts 42,014 volts and their voices need to be heard and their selection on all the boards if they're not. Maybe that's a rules issue. But I absolutely support the members at large having a voice and having a say so in terms of who sits on these boards. We have nine we don't have seven. We have seven council people who just happen to be at large and ran city wide and they're racist and they deserve to have representation on all of our boards. There should be nine and so for that I support waters. position in terms of how the at large members have a selection on the BCA. Thank you Madam Chair. All right,
thank you remembering by the way, remember Doha?
Thank you Madam President. I do not support this ordinance as stated in a committee just for the following reasons. From what President Pro Tem has already articulated as you're speaking about a voice. Every council member has the ability to make a recommendation. I believe Mr. Todd is online but from my understanding, when those recommendations are made, they go to the internal operations committee and then come before the entire body. So those decisions are made and the internal operations committee is still gives council members the ability to make those recommendations regardless of what district they're in. And as simple as I said, I sympathize with member waters just in that regard relative to the charter language, but I just don't see the point because you can still make that recommendation. All it would do from my standpoint, it adds those two members and then that concern for me relative to what the what the duties of this board are is concerning. Reason being is is that they are seven members on this board and this board particularly deals with zoning that is bounded in geographical locations. So for instance, if an at large member let's just say chose somebody from district seven, the composition of that board at that time, would have to folks serving on that board who live in one particular district and because it is zoning in nature, that is what my opposition is for relative to this ordinance where it could possibly provide maybe a sense of bias on that issue relative to zoning and geographical location. So that was my concern of it. That is why I voted no in the committee. But through you madam president and Mr. Tayac or Mr. Whittaker or someone could chime in just relative to the process of making recommendations to the committee and the voice of our at large council members to have the ability to make those recommendations that will be very helpful. Thank you, Madam President.
Madam President yesterday see Mr. Todd is not here. I will speak to it. I think the summary did Mr. Tour Hall and, and President Pro Tim Tate made is correct. Certainly. This the the eighth and ninth, should you approve the ordinance the eighth and ninth picks would have to come from one of the seven districts. So one district will have at least at least two and maybe possibly three. So and they could come from the nominations can come from any person on your body. They don't have to come from or be selected by the district person where the person would emanate from. So I don't know if that helps you or not, but
thank you, Madam President. Mr. Johnson.
Thank you, Madam President. Through you to Mr. I see director tied up there now. I'm just curious. So we had this discussion in PDD. And I understood what my colleagues were saying, but then I took a step back and said, How is this different than any other board or commission where there are nine members that every council member appoints? Well, I shouldn't say that. We appoint someone but that each council member has the ability to nominate someone for the board or commission. Are there any other boards or commissions? That have seven members?
Director time
excuse me, my apologies better President and members of council got contractors here and a barking dog I asked Dr. Poachers to occur if they could step in. There's so much noise going on. I am not 100% sure of the composition of every board and commission across the city. I do know that. The the We asked Dr. Bolger if he could do some research into how the BCA comp composition has changed. Over the years and he does have that information. We do understand, again prior to districts that many of these numbers were already set, and none necessarily changed as a result of districts being put in place. But given where in fact you do have a border conditions that does have nine members, as does the city council. We believe that that was may have been done intentionally at times in order to match the council. In the case of the BCA, we note that the BCA started off with five members if I remember correctly from the information of Dr. Bolger gathered in the 40s and then was expanded to six and subsequently to seven in 1976. We don't see a clear relationship between charter provisions on this it almost appears as though the charter follows zone. The Charter was amended or when charter was amended. It caught up to what zoning was saying but what we do know in the case of the Planning Commission as well as the BCA, the composition of these boards, and commissions is consistent with what is allowed within the zoning Enabling Act. We can certainly look into the composition of other boards and commissions. Certainly, Ms. if is there and has the detailed accounting has were from time to time when you were sitting on the board and conditions report from LPD.
allows me to put her on the spot
only byrdcliffe.
I'm good I will guess this afternoon when the charter was changed for membership to be nominated pursuant to the geographic areas and the council districts, the membership of those boards didn't change. All they did was indicate with specify boards that the membership should reflect citywide. And there was an effort to do that, but none of the actual content of the board's was changed as a result of that decision to do so. So just it was just a conscious effort to make sure and that wasn't with all the board's for instance with a staff. They indicated it was a conscious thought that the rather than the geographic spread of the membership, their qualifications was more important. But on some of them when it was like the the land use, they wanted to make sure that each district had at least some representation. And that's how because I spent a lot of time with when they attempt when they actually changed the charter and when they attempted to do this the second time with charter revisions. And that's just what the process was at that time. Thank you.
Thank you member Johnson.
Thank you, Madam President. I'm still unclear as to whether or not there are any boards or commissions that have fewer than nine with the exception of Vizio. Recognizing that previously, it was council at large. There were nine quite large members. And I'm not not still not certain any have fewer than seven.
Some do have fewer than I would have to actually get a boards and commissions report which I don't have before me right now to look at that but I believe that there is some boards that have less than less than seven members that less than nine members.
That was their original question. Thank you that council appoints. Yes. Okay. Thank you. Thank you, Madam President.
Thank you, member Johnson. Any additional questions?
Yes, the member Yeah.
Thank you, Madam President. I just wanted to ask, I want to do that questions. Why the statement? I think, first of all, I just wanted to say to there was a comment that I got 42,000 votes. I actually got 48,000 votes. I just want to make that clear. Just Just for the record, it's a racket usually by nature. Reason why I'm number one. Um, secondly, I just wanted to say, though, that I support this. I think that a person that will be on this board would be somebody that would have an at large perspective as a whole. So I just want to say I think this is something that I support, but do we have anybody from the BCA that's here that wants to speak to this because I kind of feel like that's gonna be the most impacted and that voice is missing. If Todd or liberals want to talk to you
directly to that
channel, sorry, ready to ask me.
Thank you, Madam President. With respect to Mr. Rib Ron, I don't know if he was formally reminded of this matter coming back before this honorable body or not for action to pick. I do know that. And you may recall that during budget two years ago, he did raise this issue, but he was requesting alternates, and it was from that discussion of using the alternates provision that's available within the state's zoning Enabling Act. That the issue was subsequently raised, researched and then brought back this last budget session and advanced per member waters request to move from just again his request for alternates, but to full fledged additional members. Thank you.
Thank you, Madam President. Yes. Um, the I did receive a that two questions from the PD committee, and then sent those questions to Mr. Riverrun. The questions were as follows. The the, the committee asked, they said the BCA already has experienced a relatively frequent lack of form PE D members believe increasing the BCA members size will increase the majority needed for quorum while recognizing the current challenge. Then there are other one was the BCA has had problems with form. We often start late because we do not have form. We have not had to cancel or Jorunn. Any hearings due to core of CES we started meeting in the 13th floor auditorium. And that was Mr. rebonds. response to that first question. Then, the other one from PE D says two additional BCA members could lead to some bias says two districts would have two representatives rather than one that came from the PDD. Mr. Brown responded by saying the BCA members serve as a committee of the whole the decisions are based on a majority of the sitting members. Currently, four affirmative votes are needed to grant an appeal no adding two additional members will make five votes needed to grant an appeal. That was Mr. Rivas responsive. And it makes sense to me. Thank you, Madam President.
All right. Thank you member waters.
Hi, there's no additional comments on this. Pro Tem you move to face this under third order. And toward a third reading already. Yes. Okay. And Hearing no objections that action will be taken. potentate.
I move that the ordinance be passed as submitted.
Okay. There being a row card required with the clerk please call the roll.
Councilmember young? Yes. Council President Sheffield. Yes. Councilmember Jensen? Yes. Councilmember Hall. Oh. Councilmember Johnston? Yes. Councilmember Santiago Romero.
Yes.
Council President Pro Tem Tate? No. Councilmember waters?
Yes.
Councilmember. We feel Callaway?
Yes.
Seven yeas, two nays.
The ordinance is approved. Pro Tem take no
President remove that the title of the ordinance be confirmed? Hearing no
objections that action will be taken.
And press President. Yes. I've moved a waiver for a waiver.
A waiver. Yes, ma'am. waiver has been requested. Hearing no objection,
that action will be taken and I'm gonna say madam president for the new thanks to my colleagues. Thank you,
Madam President. Thank you. I just want to know that the district seven BZ eight members term expires December 31 2023. That's for my colleagues to be aware. Thank you.
Thank you, member Johnson. member Dr. Hall.
Thank you, Madam President. I will lead member Johnson We are well aware. So I appreciate her for that. Also, just to note the board of ethics. I know they had seven that was a question as well. They have seven members but the question that I can have and I don't know if I can pose this really quickly. Now that the ordinance is going to come into place relative to the budget and for two members. Was there a fiscal analysis done on this and how do we go from there Mr. Whittaker or Mr. Corley? Are there any concerns?
Director Todd
Thank you, Madam President Pro Tem again, unless Mr. Corley or Mr. Whittaker have any objection. It's my recollection that this was all addressed in anticipation. Of this was all addressed during your last budget situation. budget hearings when this issue was raised, and it was the result of that, that the Commission then took up the action to amend the zoning ordinance to to facilitate it. As to the specific question of whether or not there was a physical impact analysis that I did not recall. But I do again, know that this was discussed during budget and the additional funds were placed into the BCAAs budget in order to accommodate it. Yes.
That is great news. Thank you. Mr. Sad.
All right. Thank you remember draw. All right from the mayor's office. Council President
Bolton to a resolution line item 17.4.
Pro Tem Tate,
president I move approval of line item 17.4.
All right. line item 70.4. is approving the extension of assessment by the downtown Detroit Business Improvement Zone. Are there any objections? Hearing no objections be one resolution will be approved. And we have to waiver on 17.4 for Wagaman. President waiver has been requested here we no objections. Waiver will be attached to 17.4. From the office of contracting and procurement.
Madam President, there are three contracts up for both from the Planning and Economic Development Center committee. All Contracts are for housing every battlestation First up we have contract number 6005631. Once presented city funding to Bri Coordinated Entry services for the city of Detroit homeless system contract is Wayne Metropolitan Community Action Agency, total contract amount $900,000. The next contract is contract number 60057581 2% CDBG. Grant funding right for subsidy repairs at 5716. Michigan Avenue contract is southwest housing solutions, total contract amount $437,678.87. The last contract is contract number 60058 by 812 percent ARPA funding throughout Detroit at work workforce training contracts Detroit Employment Solutions Corporation total contract amount $5,577,408. Council President potentate three resolutions, LA Rams 17.5 and 17.7.
Thank you, potentate.
President we will prove a line item 17.7 8.5 70.3
This is 17.5 17.7
Move approval line under 17.5 to 17.7.
All right. motion has been made. Are there any objections? Hearing no objections. The three resolutions will be approved
by President Pro Tem quest the waiver on line item 17.7. Police waiver
has been requested, Hearing no objections that action will be taken. From the City Planning Commission.
Council President books on tape and introduction of an ordinance line item 17.8.
Pro Tem take
on the president and move that the ordinance read by title ordered printed and laid on the tape.
Hearing no objections that action will be taken from the city City Planning Commission council
president Bolton take a resolution setting a public hearing Lanham 17.90 Tim Tate president
a move to set a public hearing for date to be determined. Move approval in line items 17.9 Please. motion
has been made for the scheduling of a public hearing, Hearing no objections that action will be taken from the City Planning Commission. Council
President potentate resolution Lanham 17 point 10
Oh Tim take on the president and move approval line item 17.2.
All right motion has been made for approval. Are there any objections? Hearing none, the one resolution will be approved. From the housing and revitalization department.
Council President Pro Tem Tate are six resolutions, line items 17 point 11 To 17 point 16. Noting that line item 17. Point 16 was reported out of committee without recommendation.
Right. Pro Tim Tate. President
move approval of line item 17 point 11 through 17 point 16. Please.
Discussion.
All right discussion. Member waters
Thank you,
Madam President. I had some amendments I wanted to offer or 17 point 14
in line item 17. Point 14 Is the memorandum of understanding for the Detroit Land Bank Authority. Yes and go ahead member waters.
Alright, so,
amendment number one would be the housing and revitalization department will determine eligibility criteria. Offer supportive services and relocation assistance to participants in both the buyback and occupied programs. That short Detroit Land Bank Authority will only be responsible for clearing title and issuing these are those programs. That's my First Amendment. Should I read them all? One by one
it's it's up to you remember waters Okay.
All right. Let's take the first one. So that's my motion.
Okay, before before we move forward the motion. Do we have someone on mr. Washington from the land bank? Someone could represent the Detroit land bank for our discussion on their MOU?
Yes, Madam Chair. We do have director Tammy Daniels online as well as Donald richer and darker.
Feeling Mr. Winter, good
evening. Alright, so
I see director Dale's has joined us as well. So member waters, I'll turn it back over to you.
All right. Thank you, Madam President. Should I restate the proposed amendment I'll do that for those who are just joining us. The first proposed amendment will be the housing and revitalization department will determine eligibility criteria, offer supportive services and relocation assistance to participants in both the buyback program and occupied programs. The Detroit Land Bank Authority will only be responsible for clearing title and issuing these for those programs.
Right discussion? Yes.
So So through the chair. I also think this is a question that should be better answered by the housing department director, but the housing department is under my purview. I can tell you right now the housing revitalization department does not necessarily have the capacity to address those additional requests at this particular point. We are however, we're the housing department was provided approximately $450,000 to work with the dlba in addressing occupied and helping individuals who live in or reside in those units to get them the resources needed. It so discussions are any question about budget item requests for increasing staff capacity. We try not to address that within this particular MOU. Because it's not our I guess position to get into budget discussions with this.
Alright, then President if I may. Alright, so it's my understanding Through you, madam president to Mr. renter that you currently do not have the capacity to to perform these services. But I just kind of want to point out for the record that, you know, we've got to have some help. The land bank has not been doing a good job with the buyback and the occupied. So what are what should our residents do? I just don't know how to assist them. If you don't have the capacity and the land bank is basically throwing people out every chance that they get. I don't know what.
So through the Chair, I think the success of those particular two programs should be responded to by director Daniels, and she could talk about both of the programs and provide actual substantive information about both of those programs.
Thank you, council president Sheffield through the chair so the land bank currently does not evict individuals from our properties. Even though they don't qualify for our buyback or OPD program. The only instances where we take any sort of action to remove anyone is in the case of illegal activity, drug drug use selling drugs or, you know, illegal activity that endangers the neighborhood. That's when we take action to remove someone. Or in the case where someone has literally just moved into a house that we inspected and found vacant you know, in the very recent pass, those are the only two instances where we take any action. Otherwise, we have allowed people to remain in the house and look forward to the partnership with HR D to help these individuals get some supportive services. So that they can transition to stable housing.
President All right. Well, Director Daniels I've got to tell you that, that we received a number of calls where folks have just been thrown out and sometimes you know, I do manage to reach out to you people who are made to the site all the time in the community to about experiences that they've had with the land bank. So I do know this last budget season we placed in the budget the 400,000 or so. I thought maybe Mr. Rancho through Madam President, that that will help you with the whole eligibility and occupied pieces that does that help have you hired staff to assist with that?
So through the chair, what our Detroit Housing Services team, which is a part of the housing revitalization department, will be putting a strategy together to work with the community and neighbors next to occupied homes and also work with the dlba through their survey to connect with individuals that reside in those homes and help them provide the the the resources necessary, whether it's first month's rent or finding another location to live or get them the resources needed through the cam system for that we work with for people who are not sheltered as far as determining or making any decision making through the process of the dlba. That's a process that we don't have funding to continuously do that checking and monitoring but we're here to help support and provide any assistance that we can.
All right, so So thank you, Madam President. Maybe we'll have to find the money in the next budget season so that HR D can do exactly that. So I'm leaving my amendment on the table. bipedal legs would decide what to do with it. But that's my motion. Especially
especially if they want to go or do yourself discussion. Yep. Remember Vinson for yourself to
miss Daniels. I was the proposed amendment impact your ability to conduct operations.
So through the chair to Councilmember Benson, um, that would completely eliminate our ability to one assist those individuals in our in our buyback pipeline, those individuals who have already been approved for buyback and who are already going through the process of saving their money to pay their taxes and who will graduate next summer this past summer we had a class of over 100 individuals who graduated from our buyback program and received the deeds their houses, and we do that every summer. That amendment would foreclose our ability to do that as well. Our op DP program seeks to find nonprofits and for profit entities who will work with the occupants. They fix up the homes and they work with the occupants to help them stay in the home so they you know, work out some sort of rental arrangement. That's the goal of the program is to get the house fixed up and transition them again to stable housing. So the amendment that is proposed would, you know, basically got those two programs and leave the the, the entire pipeline of individuals who were trying to help without any options
all right, and are there ways outside of the proposed amendment to address the concerns of member waters?
So through the chair to Councilmember Benson, the the partnership with the HR D with HR D, that she has shepherded, I think is an absolute great way to support these individuals to help them find the supportive services and and in the stable housing that just land bank properties do not provide and so once we get that, that program operational as I just saw, like it will be it will, it will be that, um, assistance that Councilmember waters and the rest of Council is looking for, for this group of individuals who are precariously housed in land bank houses that I will remind everyone of our houses that people should not be residing in.
Thank you.
President so that a president to Director Daniels see we're just asking that HR D. Be a part of determining who can be a part of the program. For one because you have the ability to make such a determination. You don't work as close with the community as both HRD does and or the city council. So we want HRD to be engaged in the whole eligibility planning process. That's what we're asking. Because you just you're just not going to do the job of determining eligibility. We need some engagement from HRD.
So through the Chair, if I may respond to Councilmember waters. I think that the land bank and our staff do a phenomenal job of vetting people and to fought to determine if they are eligible for the buyback program. Again, every individual who raises their hand or who was in a land bank property is first vetted for buyback to see if there is an opportunity to to work with them to get the house is old PDP is a secondary program for those individuals who don't qualify for buyback and still need help. But our our team works very hard to vet every last person to ensure that they can qualify for buyback Now, in fairness, I will I have, I think I've said it before and I'll say it again. You know, we have a difficult time getting people to raise their hand because they are afraid that we're going to, you know, potentially put them out of the house. And so that is where HRD and the outreach team will be extremely helpful in reaching out to make sure that they understand that you know, raising their hand and coming forward is an opportunity for them to stay in the property is an opportunity for them to you know, determine for us to determine that they are eligible to participate in buyback.
Thank you, Madam President.
Thank you. Any additional questions or concerns regarding the MOU in the waters we can come back to your your memo that's okay. Just open it up for discussion for now. Oh, when? The MOU Oh, no protein you were next Pro Tem.
Thank you, Madam President. Good evening. Good no we're not still afternoon. Good afternoon, CEO Daniels. We had a long meeting the other day on Thursday and I neglected to ask a question. I believe my team has submitted this one to you and I have not had an opportunity to review the response if it has been sent when I had neglected to ask the question regarding the service lines being cutting DWSD service lines. I know that has been a major challenge for those who have sought to purchase land bank owned properties. I know that the land bank has basically this blanket statement that says it may this property may or may not have a service line cut and just heads up if it's cut, it's gonna cost you 15 or so $1,000. I know that there are people who are still looking to purchase that property and they don't know how to make a determination of if that line is cut or not. And that automatically puts them you know, 15 to $20,000 in the hole and they don't even expect it to have that expense. How are we how are you all dealing with that particular issue? And my question is how can we close that loop to make certain if a property is being sold by the land bank, it one either does not have a separate line or two. It is at least notably it is least known and notice I noticed that it does or does not have a separate line.
So through the chair onto potentate, I did get your question. I will note that we worked very closely with our partners at DWSD to try to identify those properties that had that their contract was where they were their contract. Was had cut the water line. Unfortunately, the data is just not great. And we don't have from DWSD a real sense of which properties that they went and cut the waterline on and that is why that disclaimer is placed upon all of our listings because we don't have a sense for which properties have that line intact and which ones have been cut. During those conversations. We tried to we brainstormed ideas of how we could find out and what um, this was a couple years ago what was revealed that it would take a couple of $1,000 You have to actually go and dig up the line in order to find that out. And so it would take a couple of $1,000 to do that work. So we currently have approximately 2700, salvageable structures left in our inventory so it's potentially an eight to $10 million expense just to dig up the line to find out if it's intact.
But what so we're saying what is the process now with a water department and this is not necessarily your a question you might be able to answer yourself, but hopefully within conversation with the WSD would you would have gotten a response. How are you how was the process of I'm just it just blows my mind. We don't have any information severability of those lines. How is that taking place now has any any changes happened? As relates to contractors cutting service lines and DWSD not knowing
so through the chair to pro tem saying I I can't speak to their contractors and what agreements are currently in place about cutting water lines. So I I would I wouldn't want to try to speak on that for DWSD.
So maybe I should look to group as a rancher. I mean, again, this is if the goal is to move these properties as soon as possible. We're trying to make sure that not only are removing them, but they're actually being updated and have folks live in them. What what's being done from the city side to address that major, major issue that we know is a huge impediment for folks coming into compliance.
So through the chair to potentate, I think that's an excellent and valid question that I don't have the answer to I would love to get connect with Gary Brown on that conversation, because he would be needed to help like to address that issue. It could be something that we can get with him immediately. To talk about but I also don't know necessarily the resources he has to do that particular work but it's something that we can answer for you for sure. If it is a budget item, again, if it's a budget item that needs resources, we we try to in this MOU stay away from areas that were require budget authority that we did not have for programs that we that were not known yet but I think it's it's definitely a valid concern would definitely help.
Can I just ask them I don't think we're getting laid. So so the the issue of the lines being cut, right here, right. Does your group exactly on that side of the fence? Right? Are we saying that we still don't know what properties in the city of Detroit have cut or severed? service lines? Because I mean, I'm trying to figure out once we recognize it was an issue because there's been multiple articles about it. Okay. And we know that's the challenge that we have, at what point has there been a shift just from a department or in an administration standpoint to now say I do know, moving forward as of 2000 22,021 2022 23 or etc. It doesn't feel like knowing that this is an issue. It doesn't sound like there's any energy or anything behind it to try to figure it out. It's just let's put the disclaimer on the website and let the resident or the potential resident the potential purchaser figure it out themselves and they will come knocking on the door X amount of months later saying Where's where's your progress and we know again 15 to 20,000 right off the top. So
through the chair when they say that the answer is not available. I just I'm just telling you I don't have it. I personally don't. We can request that the Gary is comes down and probably responds to that question. I just, I'm just telling you truthfully, I don't know the answer not.
So I would hope that that would have been part of the conversation period just in June part of the ethos, if you will of the Detroit land bank. I was hoping that we could bring this back to be honest with you in January to address it to have those particular kinds of questions addressed, but it is here before us today. And we'll go from there but that is a major concern of mine again, we're talking about several several times we're not getting $20,000 is a huge deal. And we've got a situation in the city of Detroit where and you're saying you don't know this to be true. But no one is able to definitively say if we have a situation now we know that this property's line service line is cut with this particular property. It's just a bit disconcerting to me to not have that at least part of the conversation that we discuss on a regular basis with with these particular properties, knowing that has caused this kind of issue for
us. Moving Thank you.
Thank you proto. Any additional a couple of hands that were raised. Think Member Santiago neurol was next.
Thank you, Madam President, through you. too poor to protime first i i am not against bringing this back especially given all of the concerns that we have. But at this moment since this is in front of us, Madam President, I would like to make a motion for an amendment to the MOU. If we are to vote on this today. This amendment has been shared with the land bank, and if it's okay with you, if now or later but would like to make a motion for for this amendment. Which amendment?
I'm sorry.
Madam President, I know that we're in the middle of discussion, but I do have an amendment to the ordinance that we're going to move this forward today. So wondering if now's a good time or later this amendments that I am requesting I did send to the land waiting
so I was wondering I and I'm not sure where numbers are on November waters has a sheet of amendments. You have amendments I you know, personally I was a little disappointed because I didn't see much change in the MOU. based on concerns about council members. We just didn't see much changes made. I still have concerns about some things that we requested regarding the vacant land. The holding of properties for projects within the city of Detroit that was not addressed in this MOU as well. And so I'm not sure if there is a desire to bring this back at the top of the year. And maybe we should take that up first prior to we take op ed and then it's just to allow us to see if that passes first. That is the will of the body sounds like there may be support to bring this back at the top of the year to allow us to work through all of these additional motion. So we got discussion on that motion if that's okay, but there is a motion to bring this back at the top of the year. It was going to still have discussion on it because I do want to hear from the law department or LPD just on the impact review Mr. Richard as bringing this back at the top of the year. I know that the MOU currently is going to expire soon.
So to the chair to the President. If it is the desire by this body to bring it back. The MOU expires I believe mid December. And essentially the dlba acts in its own discretion on day to day business. Until
I know Santiago still had to
apologize but just for clarity does that mean that the land bank will still operate as it currently does at this at this moment? No changes nothing different.
So So through the Chair, I don't want to speak through the dlba and what they're going to do in January because I won't be here, but I'm hoping that their act in good faith and continue to provide the services that they offer. So
essentially honoring the MOU that we're currently in is that again, I'm sorry to take up the time. But to co Daniels is that something that we can agree upon?
Or the chair Yes, we can we will continue to operate under the existing MOU.
Thank you so much.
Thank you discussion.
One second. Were you done with this idea?
Madam President, just since we have Donald renter with us, I just want to say thank you you've just noted that this will be you will not be here in January and I just wanted to put time just thank you so much for prepping so much. It's so much fun to work with. Whenever we reached out for anything that we need, you were always there so just thank you so much for the work that you've done. We are losing an incredible advocate and worker for the city. But another you will continue to do great things and I just need to take the moment to say thank you. Thank you, Madam President.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for that. Thank you Donna. We appreciate you and wish you the absolute best. I appreciate
it. I'll be visiting you.
Alright, so there is still a motion on the floor for to bring it back at the top of the year member Johnson followed by member Benson. I'm sorry. Young withdraws his and I will as well okay.
Thank you Madam person
and young passes number busy.
Thank you I trust but verify. So I just want to legally that without having an MOU that governs to take over from the expired MOU. Does it is the current MOU just carried over legally or are we just out of MOU? Do we just have no legal agreement or are we carrying over the existing I know what you say we will do this and we will operate? I mean good faith but just legally where are we as a city when it comes to legal documents governing the relationship between two so
the chair that that is to Councilmember Benson that is an important note. And thank you for allowing me to say that director Daniels stated that we would work under the same MOU that's in place. The amendments that we that we included we thought that'd be gathered most of the amendments and changes that council members wanted, but the amendment that is being put forth today includes things like the occupied that's not in the original. The original MOU that we're asking for amendment on it doesn't include over assessment. It doesn't include any of those additional pieces and programs that this council in his body is pushed to have the dlba run so talking to to Director Daniels to say what in what actions are you going to work on and as the dlba and make sure the scope of work? And the actions that that the dlba takes is going to take the amended version that we put forth to you or is it the old version that it continues to work on is a question but I think in good faith all the things that we put into the amendment. I think that's what she's saying that she'll appreciate
good faith. But legally, yeah. Do we have any is there a carryover provision that this MOU carries so right now we just don't have a legal agreement but we are a gentleman gentle lady's handshake and moving forward under the current provisions Correct.
That's right. From my understanding. Yes.
Madam President, I concur. The agreement, it terminates in December December 19. However, during the budget season, you budgeted for dlba to carry the functions out for the entire fiscal year. So they will have to come back before you sometime in March. And you can check and see whether or not they have so that gives you some comfort. They gotta come back for a budget Okay, that's
good to know. Also, I believe, if you could please add a provision for carryover for the next MOU as well in case of a situation like this moving forward, so you don't have to worry about that. Thank you.
Thank you. All right. So folks, Amanda, you had originally moved all of these or approval. Did you want to go back to 17 point 14 to postpone?
Which one
that's what we're doing now. Yep. Yeah.
Think about a president move. I move to postpone the vote. For until the next city council formal session. For line item 17 point 14.
Are there any objections to postpone the MOU? Hearing none, that action will be taken by a president. All right and fro to him.
That we went up to 17
Thank you went to 17 point 1616 appropriate
for you madam president says just that your group is at rancher you're here. Lisa, maybe you can respond to the question. I know you won't be here in January, but you still have the authority at this moment. To make a commitment as it relates to LEED Platinum, you know, we had a lot of conversation about the plaza. There's a lot of concern about the fact that we have placed the lion's share of the funding in that particular project. Blood you'll understand how heavily subsidized those. Those units will be as well for those folks who will ultimately end up living in them. If this is approved today is there Can we get a commitment to just reevaluate the development agreement with this particular entity to ensure that we are we stay on track because it is a very much a concern for a number of folks that one we want to get this property put into productive use, but we want to get it done sooner rather than later. Before putting in additional monies. If this this goes through, and we don't have to hear from the developer. That was just for you. Okay, okay. You want me to Yeah, no, I'm saying I wouldn't need a whole bunch of folks chiming in. Okay.
So through the Chair, I can tell you that to pro tem take that I am extremely confident that we can move forward with the project. It's a transformational project and it's highly subsidized creating, affordability. 30% of people's incomes. I said before if you don't make any money, you're not paying any rent, and is for seniors and it is I would think a once in a lifetime opportunity to convert an historic building in our in our city back to its glory. I think this developer is the right one to do it. I also say that we are on track and the developer has not slipped since we've been here trying to move forward with the project trying to ensure that the subsidies that it needed to happen to make the project move forward. They've been consistently making sure that the building is safe doing the proper testing. When using federal funds, you're not allowed to touch the building. to a to a degree it's called a choice living action. Unless you're using you're touching the building for safety reasons and or environmental. The developer is inch on track and I've been in close conversation with the last piece of funding, which is the HUD loan which is going to be closing in March of 2024 where they've also spent dollars in development and I'm 100% confident they have not missed the agreement timeline. And I'm confident that they're going to move forward to get the project started done.
What are we looking at if this is approved today?
We'll be looking at
potentially a ribbon cutting opening of the door
I would say. So that's interesting. If we approve this today, I think a ribbon cutting possibly could be it's up to us but but I think it could be January February. If you want to wait until they all the documents are signed. We've
been talking about ribbon like folks moving into the local oh, we're moving in I would say about two years in game,
I would say about two years. It'd be a Berbick ribbon cutting so spring of 2026.
But is there anything in agreement that says a certain date?
It does and I don't have the agreement with me but our agreement really stays to the fact of when the project should be started and closed and commenced that if there's a request for us to put something in there that talks about the completion date. We can look at that too. For sure.
I would just again ask for an opportunity to reevaluate and add that language as we come back and I would like to bring that portion of the back in January for refer that to the Planning and Economic Development standing committees for well, this particular item we'll put it on the agenda. That's a motion.
Oh Tim, are you referring the actual award
none other project or
just the request that you made just a request OKAY. OKAY. OKAY
to have the V Plaza project to ensure that it's be evaluated me discuss the actual timeline. And sorry Moses based upon what potentially may happen today.
So that will be added the motion to put that as a line item 14 Meeting Correct. Okay. Any objections to that discussion? Yes, member Benson yourself
to Mr. Ventura. Just what's the equity on the developer side on this deal?
So from the equity piece through the chair, there's about a million dollars of deferred developer fee and a million dollars of developer contribution. I can say that for pretty much all of our affordable housing projects, especially at these particular incomes. Most capital stacks for these projects are filled with equity from low income housing tax credits and home and indoor CDBG funding because there's not enough money that can pay back debt. And so the the amount of debt is low. And occasionally developers do put forward some of their developer fee into our development project. But this is a based on how expensive this project is, is it's a very large building is historic. This is very much in the same spirit of mostly all of our subsidized housing units. Rarely do we put developers put their own equity into an affordable housing project.
About 4% Then maybe, yeah, I would say thank you.
Thank you. Alright, so pro Tim has motion to add this as a line item and committee for planning and development at the top of the year are there any objections to doing that? Right Hearing none, that motion will be approved. And Pro Tem you have moved these for approval?
That's minus minus 17 point 14 minus
17 point 14. Are there any objections to the resolutions? Hearing no objections. The five resolutions will be approved. And the right Thank you. Mr. Winter. The planning and development department,
council president potenti is eight resolutions 17 point 17 To 17 point 24. Noting that lineup 17 point 17 and 17 point 18 were postponed from last week's formal session
the president Move approval and 17 point 17 through 17 point 24.
Alright, just discussion, discussion please. Thank you. So for line item 17 point 18 Regarding the amended and restated development agreement for the booster Willa Recreation Center. I did submit and everyone should have a copy of a resolution that I would like to walk on. This was in collaboration with MHT housing. Based on some of the outstanding concerns that some of the brush Park residents have just wanted to have this resolution to show continued good faith efforts to engage the community. And I see van is here as well with fresh park around some outstanding concerns with the housing and so if there's no objections I would like to walk this resolution on to be considered with the approval of the development agreement. So version hard. Okay. All right. You must be made. Are there any objections? Hearing no objections. The resolution will be walked on the other hand raised Yes, yes, number one I just
have a question regarding the recreation center. It's my understanding that Joe Lewis box there was box there and was Diana Ross and all of them are part of the booster. Is this his who is who currently owns it. That rec center right now? Is it is it owned by by HUD? Is it owned by the city who owns it? I don't know.
So eventually come down. I think they're in the process now of transferring the ownership from I think was Casey crane who purchased the site a few years ago and never was able to fulfill the project that was proposed to Council at the time. And so that is what is before us today. And I will allow the development team to speak a little bit more detail. on that.
So Madam President, you're saying that it was sold some years ago? Yes. Yes. Is that right?
Yep. This is before you. You had that. Okay, so you guys want to state your name and titles for the record?
So President, members of the city council Good evening, my name is T van Fox with MHT housing.
Good evening. I'm Elizabeth Rodgers. I am entitlements council for this project and through the chair, Councilmember waters to address your question. Yes, this property was sold several years ago. This is an amendment of the development agreement that the city entered into with the developer at that time, and a purchase agreement has been entered into between that entity that previously was sold the property by the city and he has
risen a while I did not know that because you never should have been so is a historic marker. I mean, it really is. And so I'm, I'm sad. Sad to hear that. Thank you, Madam President.
Thank you and I just wanted to ban or I'm not sure if you want to speak on it because it is such a historic, definitively Detroit a lot of people have so many memories with the booster with the Rec Center. And our first year in 2013. It was on the demolition list and we fought really hard to get that building safe. And we're here today now to open it back up as a recreation space. And so if you could mention what is taking place with that center so that the public is aware of the preservation and the recreation that has been proposed their
friends, there is a complete recognition of the historical significance of the Rec Center in full to date we're working with the historic commission are working with many members throughout the community are fully recognizing that this is going to be re established as a community center for all there will not be a fee for admittance. There will be the full recognition of a neighborhood club for all recognizing the arts. Recognizing the athletics recognizing a full complete restoration of the exterior interior. Full permits are being appropriately applied for from the roofing to the limestone to the brick to the flooring to the lighting to the HVAC throughout all of the mechanicals that are needed for the complete restoration. Thank you, man.
Thank you. Thank you. And I just wanted to really quick I know some of the concerns of the brush Park. CDC has been addressed and memorialized within this resolution is before us, and we'll make sure that they are listening in at this resolution does encourage that the developer continue to engage with brush park around those four outstanding issues. I want to just read one whereas where it says that whereas MHT has stated that it will continue to be available for communication with the brush Park CDC to discuss their concerns as we work to move forward with the project. Additionally, mh T will also continue to work with the appropriate city officials to explore potential options for the inclusion of market rate units into the overall development plans if possible. And I wanted to stress that because I know that has been a concern of many other brush card residents. All right. I appreciate you working with this van and looking forward to the continued engagement. All right. Thank you. Any additional questions or concerns on these items or on 17 point 18? All right, hearing none pro Tim has new these for approval.
Are there any objections to 17 point 17 and 17 point 18. Hearing no objections, the two resolutions will be approved. And Mr. Clark, can we please take up the resolution for continued public engagement regarding the booster weather Recreation Center.
Madam president we do have the walk on that was submitted by your office council president pro tem Tate on behalf of council president Sheffield, a resolution to encourage continued public engagement regarding the booster will Recreation Center development. Okay,
so moving on President
motion has been made, Hearing no objections that action will be taken. Right. Mr. Clerk?
Madam President, we still have in that grouping, we have line item 17 point 19 To 17 point 24. Council President Pro Tem take
potentate I moved those for approval. So these are our property sales. These have been made. Move for approval. Any objections? Hearing no objections. The resolutions will be approved. The president yes. First of waiver. My name is 17 point 21. Please. waiver has been requested. For 17 point 21. Are there any objections? Hearing none, the motion is approved. Wherever lamb 17.2 to 17.22222 motion has been made. Are there any objections? Hearing none, the motion is approved for the public and health and safety standing committee from the Office of contracting and procurement.
Madam President, there are 11 contracts for vote today from the public health and safety standing committee. None of them is 18.1 to 18.7 are all proposal in an emergency demolition contracts for the construction and demolition department. Next up we are at line item 18.8 which is contract number six six. I mean 60058071 2%. Our funding to write abatement and alteration of commercial structures contract is a demo demolition company total contract amount $1,101,126.40. And this is for construction and demolition. The next contract is contract number 60058251 2% grant funding to provide COVID-19 antigen self test kits. Contract is pharma tech Inc. total contract amount $250,000 And this contract is for the health department. The next contract is contract number 6005819. ones represent ARPA funding to arrive virtual reality training simulator equipment and software piggyback off of EMI deal, total contract amount $1,870,387.45 And this contract is for the police department. The last contract is contract number 30686001 2%. City funding to buy security and warehouse personnel admin Tarski contract is Walker Miller energy services total cost per mile $88,314.04 And this contract is for public lighting. Councilmember Santiago Romero 11 resolutions, line items 18.1 To 18 point 11 Noting that line items 18.1 to 18.6 were postponed from last week's formal session.
Thank you as a member Santiago mero.
Thank you, Madam
President. I will break these up for us we'll motion to approve madam evening. Point one through 18.6 noting that these are all the line items that were postponed last week due to upstanding concerns from colleagues.
All right motion has been made. For Approval. Are there any objections? Hearing none, those resolutions will be approved. Member Santiago Nuro Thank you Madam
President. Motion to approve items 18.6 through 18 point 11. Discussion.
All right discussion. Councilmember young. Yes.
Through the chair to the administration. Do we have anybody who online on the PLA holding authority
mr. Washington
Madam Chair if you give me just one moment
yes, we do have some of the PLA online I believe Dan has his hammerings.
We will promote him. Madam President, while that's happening, just want to clarify we're voting on 18.7 318 point 11.
Thank you Okay.
Good evening Okay.
All right. Good evening. Are you with us? Damn. All right. Dan, how are you? I want to turn it back over to remember young for your questions.
Thank you, Mr. President. Dan is weird not being able to see your face but the reason why I'm asking these questions is because I want to ask why are we providing this contract and not DTE? I mean, I for my understanding, I know that the emergency delivery service agreement came to exist in 2020. As recently ended, but I thought that Mr. Ski and all the responsibilities evolving with the stars is going to transfer over to DTE. Far that was because it cost over $500 million to upgrade DCE from my understanding, and so I just want to know why are we involved in this contract.
He was only evolved with providing the warehouse personnel. While they were good, the easiest thing was still in progress. EDSA became complete in December last year 2022 And so that's now our property in our last surprise there there. So we are have to have somebody to take care of them.
Okay, so but why are we providing the security for that?
Is our property still
okay, because Okay, as you say, we own it, but they just operate is that what you're saying?
They were operating it to December last year. They're no longer operating it.
So these ease no longer operating? That's correct. Okay. And that's gonna stay consistent or will that change?
That will age. Okay.
Okay. Thank you.
Thank you.
All right. Thank you,
Madam President. Yes. Do you have a brief question as well for 18 points 11. It is noted that $77 is the going rate per hour, and just wants to confirm that this is the average rates for these kinds of services.
Dan, are you there? Yes, I have Did you hear the question from my colleague?
The the, where DT was operating it. There was the rate that they were paying. The DT was paying the supplier when it no longer became DT responsibility. We were scrambling to find a replacement company. We did find one subsequent to that. These were charges they were accrued. In that time while we're looking for another company. They continued to rate they were getting paid at that time. So this contract we're requesting here is to pay them for services already rendered and there'll be no further services with Walker Miller and his regardless of new contract has struck in the future.
Thank you, Madam President. So I'm still not clear is this the average rates or
the repeated contract placed after this one I could use the current cost record was slightly lower. But we had nobody in the meantime to operate the system. So we had to accept Walker Miller's rate that they were paying to Didi was paying them so it'd be slightly higher than the average rate I believe. I'm not sure procurement actually did the bidding out of the replacement contract today. I've worked information on the rates that I would have. Okay, thank you, Madam President. Thank
you. All right. Thank you. Yes, member Yang.
Thank you one more question and I just want to ask you this just for kind of clarification here. i I just want to ask so did DTE give us the power plant that and did they give us the grid as well?
The PT was using we continue to own it. All the time. Do you see was using it while their ability to go? The parallel grid to our old system. Okay, and so they're no longer using our assets in any way at all.
Okay, so we've always owned it and they're just not using our assets. In any way. So they just weren't they weren't using our assets before. In conjunction with the with their system as well. And what you're saying as well as well as the grid, correct? Yes,
they were using our grid until they could repeat do a parallel grid replace our grid.
Okay, so that they're no longer using the stars. That's why we're paying for police because it's still a city on asset. That's where we're planning for security and they're still using, they're still using the grid right.
There. They're all using our grid. They're only through their own equipment now.
Okay, so those are not using any of our stuff and are using our grid and not using Mr. Ski at all. Is that correct? Okay. All right. Thank you. I appreciate that.
Thank you. All right.
Councilmember Santiago Ramiro. moved, these are approval the remaining items
you mentioned again, what was the items? Yes,
that a president's a motion to approve 18.7 318 points. 11.
Okay. Motion has been made for approval. Are there any objections
or objection? Objections? Well,
remember why 18.8?
So no. Member Santiago Romero.
18 point time.
So no, and if you can show me as a no 118 point in as well.
So no. All right.
Seeing no further objections, those resolutions will be approved. From the Department of Public Works city engineering division.
Councilmember Santiago no resolution line item 18 point 12.
Councilmember Santiago Ramiro.
Thank you, Madam President. Motion to discuss.
Yes, discussion.
Thank you, Madam President. Not sure if there's somebody here to discuss 18 points well, but there were a number of concerns regarding this petition requests and would just like further clarity around what this vacation would mean for public right of ways.
Mr. Washington do we have someone one to discuss this item?
Madam Chair, I'm not sure if Richard Doherty is online. If not, I'll have to defer possibly to Director Brundage.
Okay, we see almost like we do have director Brundage here so he can come out we do not see the other individual online
Rector Brundage.
Good evening.
At three Madam President, good evening director. So, this is regarding the Detroit Athletic Club. Petition for vacation and we did get some concerns from residents regarding this vacation of sidewalks so just wondering and this petition also does not state for how long this vacation is going for. So I'm wondering if you have any more insights to this petition through
the chair? I don't have a lot of detail. I do know that. This request is what would be a permanent request to vacate the street of the trade Athletic Club is looking at expanding the area just to the west of their property, which would take over the eastern sidewalk on the west side of the sidewalk is going to remain public right away and and be accessible for pedestrians or whoever to like to use it. That's not a heavily traveled roadway or segment for pedestrian so that was taken into consideration before the recommendation was made.
Thank you Thank you, Madam President. Thank you for that. This concern comes from an advocate that ensures that people are able to move freely in public right aways and you make this a permanent requests
through the chair. It's my understanding to the Department of requests and I did hear the comment from Pat Scott from Detroit greenways. But again, what was important to us is that we wanted to make sure that we always had access. So the west side of the sidewalk is going to remain completely open during this period.
Do you Madam President, thank you. I'm going to request to send this back to committee. I believe this vacation is to request for outside CV in which we already do allow where I wonder if we can find a solution without having a permanent vacation request. So if there are no objections, Madam President, I would like to send 18 point 12 back to committee.
Any discussion? All right hearing down there request was made to send this item back to committee. Are there any objections? Hearing none, that action will be taken.
Thank you, Director. Thank you, Madam President.
I will now move to the new business. portion of the agenda. Under Unfinished Business Council
Member Santiago mayo and what is known as a roll call 19.1.
Councilmember Santiago Romero.
Thank you, Madam President. I've been informed by the administration that they would like for us to remove this from our agenda. And wondering if Mr. Washington or anybody else can just give us a little bit more insight as to why before I make the motion to remove this from today's agenda,
Mr. Washington.
Um, yes, Madam Chair. So actually, the request for this one is just to postpone until the new year. There's just some additional conversations that PDD and law as well as demo would like to have about this before moving forward.
All right. Thank you, Madam President. Thank you, Mr. Washington. Appreciate that. But that Madam President, I motion to bring back 19.1 When we come back from recess, there's a
motion to postpone 19.1 Hearing no objections that action will be taken under unfinished business.
Councilmember Benson in order to make a roll call nine 19.2.
Councilmember Benson
move the table and table an ordinance to amend chapter eight and 2019 Detroit city code building construction and property maintenance article 15. Property Maintenance code by many division one in general sections eight tech 15 tech three definitions. A tech B section eight tech 15 Tech for deafness and C section eight tech fair teen tech five definitions D F. Section Eight tech 15 tech six definitions G tech K, Section Eight tech 15 tech nine definitions s tech Z and by adding division seven energy vendors consists of sections eight tech routine tech 581 purpose section a tech 15 Tech 582 violations enforcement section eight tech 15 Tech 583 ability section eight tech routine tech 584 benchmarking reporting requirements section eight tech teen tech 585 ensuring benchmarking accuracy section eight tech routine tech 586 disclosure and publication of benchmarking information section eight tech routine tech five and seven whole building energy and water consumption data access section eight tech 15 Tech 588 providing benchmarking information to the building owner section eight tech routine tech 589 benchmarking exemptions such a tech routine tech 590 reporting and manufacturing or industrial facilities section eight tech 15 tech part 91 maintenance of records section eight tech routine tech 592 promulgation of administrative rules to establish an energy and water benchmarking reporting and transparency program requirements for certain buildings within a city of your choice jurisdiction lay on the table November 7 2023.
Hearing no objections that action will be taken. Remember Benson move
the ordinance be placed in the order Third Reading and considerate
Hearing no objections that action will be taken. Councilmember Benson
discussion just number one I want to thank my colleagues and committee for supporting this Thank you man Draper's long work, thank the green Task Force are here I think the Office of Sustainability, one member, oh two members of which are here. And we thank them for the long time, energy and effort and brain damage put in this to make this happen. So this puts us once again at the tip of the spear around the country, for a cities who are resilient and at the tip of the spear with regards to sustainability. Really appreciate all their hard work and effort, including my staff and current Wimberly who chairs the green Task Force and make sure that we stay on mission and on task and that we're able to pass great policies like this to move the city forward. And we're going to be passed as submitted.
There being a roll call required with the clerk, please call the roll.
Council President Sheffield. Yes. Councilmember Jensen?
Yes.
Councilmember Hall. Yes. Councilmember Johnston? Yes. Councilmember Sackett? Yes. Council President Pro Tem take. Yes. Councilmember waters. Yes. Councilmember young? Yes. Eight yeas, zero nays.
The ordinance is approved.
I'm going to title to the ordinance be confirmed.
Hearing no objections that action will be taken.
Thank you, colleagues.
All right. Thank you. Member Benson request a waiver waiver has been requested. Any objections? Hearing none, that action will be taken Mr. Clerk.
Madam president next up we are. We have items from the Office of contract and procurement. There are 26 contracts for vote, a line of 19.3 to 19.18. All our contracts for construction and demolition, General Services Police Department transportation and water and sewage department. Councilmember Santiago, Maryland 26 resolutions line items 19.3 19 point 28.
Thank you, Councilmember Santiago Bernero. Thank you, Madam
President. I will also be breaking these up. In case there's need for discussion and motion to approve 19.3 through 19 point 13 These are all various demolition contracts
19.3 through 19 point 13. Any objections? Right here hearing none those resolutions will be approved as a member Santiago Amuro. Thank you, Madam
President motion to approve languages 19 point 14 to 19.2. And these are all various ARPA funded abatement and alteration contracts.
motion has been made for approval. Are there any objections to action? Awesome member waters
1914 1516 and 17.
Right. And if you can, please show me as no 119 point 16 vertical so no. Any additional objections? All right, hearing none the resolutions will be approved.
request for waiver for line item point three Madam President.
waiver has been requested or number
19.3 I'm
sorry. It is kind of hard to hear you and then he's, I couldn't hear because 19.3 19.3 All right, Hearing no objections. The waiver will be attached. Remember Santiago Ramiro? Thank you
Madam President motion to approve 19 An E 19 point 18 and 19 point 19.
motion has been made for approval Are there any objections? Hearing none, the two resolutions will be approved
request a waiver for 19 point 19. Madam President,
a waiver has been requested for 19 point 90 Hearing no objections that action will be taken. customer number Santiago Romero.
Thank you Madam President. Motion to discuss 19 point 20.
All right discussion. Thank you, Madam
President. Just want to take a moment to pause in case there's any need for discussion. This contract is for tasers, a $23 million contracts for police motion to approve with discretion in case there's anything my colleagues have left to ask.
Thank you any discussion on 19 point 28 Ain't no discussion. Customer. You've already moved it for approval. Are there any objections? Objection? Point 20 Correct. Or go No. Hearing no further objections, the resolutions will be approved. Member Santiago Ramiro. Thank you, Madam
President. And just to confirm, Mr. Clerk we read up to 19 point 28 Correct. Yes. All right. Thank you Madam President motion to approve 19 point 21 through 19 point 28.
Right motion has been made for approval. Were there any objections? Hearing no objections. The resolutions will be approved.
request a waiver madam president from line item 19 point 21 through 19 point 23.
Right waiver has been requested. Any objections? Hearing none, that motion is approved.
Madam President.
Yes. request
a waiver for 19 point 24 through 19 point 28
motion has been made for a waiver, Hearing no objections. The motion will be approved
right from the Office of the Chief Financial Officer officer development
grants Council Member Santiago Romero seven resolutions nine items 19 point 2919 point 35
Councilmember Santiago Ramiro. Thank you Madam President. Motion to approve. motion has been made. Are there any objections? These are various grants. Hearing no objections. The seven resolutions will be approved. From the Department of Public Works city engineering division,
Councilmember Santiago Maryland resolutions 919 point 3619 point 42.
Council Member Santiago Rivero motion to approve. motion has been made for approval. Are there any objections? Hearing no objections the seven resolutions will be approved. Under resolutions, Councilmember
Santiago Amuro two resolutions lineups 19 point What do you boy 19 point 45 Noting that nine out of 1940 point 43 has already been voted on.
All right, Councilmember Santiago Ramiro motion all right, motion has been made for approval.
also noting that line item 19 point 45 is on behalf of council president shift you Sorry about that. Okay,
thank you, Mr. Clerk. motion has been made for approval for the two resolutions, Hearing no objections, the two resolutions will be approved. And before we do you have referrals. Right. Okay. Madam
President. So request a quick waiver for 1939 20 point
38. motion motion has been made for 19 point 38 for a waiver. I'm just trying to go back to me to see what that is. You know this is a petition of CH and housing
or vacation has any objections to a waiver for petition of CH and housing line. Item 19 point 38. Right Hearing no objections. The motion is approved. And before we move to our walk ones and I know we have a few of them from members, I would like to go back unfortunately to responsible contracting. We need to reconsider to add a 120 day implementation date that I had talked to some members about adding in there to ensure that people had time to ramp up for credits. And so number one, would you mind making a motion to reconsider so we can add that into the ordinance also reconsider? Thank you. Hearing no objections, we will reconsider. Our motion is approved. And Mr. Clerk madam, wait before we do that, now we have a motion to amend the ordinance.
okay. All right. So, Tim, you had the script. I don't think you need to read the whole remember door hawks to have it actually 3.19 and 15.1 and burger Hall. And does he need to reread the entire summary maybe just the Okay.
Okay. Perfect. Okay, member Doha.
Thank you, Madam President. I move to reconsider line item 15.1.
Yes. Remember young member young guardi motion for reconsideration. And we approve the reconsideration. So now we're at one motion to
approve a pardon me
Move to approve line item 15.1.
All right. Are there any effects?
I'm sorry, as amended.
was amended it yet so we have to vote first to deny it. Right. Right. First
you have to vote.
Yep. Okay. And then we'll move to the amended version. Yes. You tell me okay. Okay, member member Doha.
AutoPro blam Ana 15.1.
All right. Any objections to deny right objection to action.
Waters.
Sheffield, Yun Santiago
Ramiro objection
number there are the action.
Item President.
Thank you. So that fails. And now if member door Hall could move the amendment, which would be to add a 160 day implementation date. Into the ordinance
move to add the amendment to a line item 15.1
I'm sorry, that should be 120 days. Please forgive me.
just clarify is 120 days. Okay, move. The amendment for 120 days to line item for line item 15.1.
All right. motion has been made. Are there any objections? Hearing none, that motion is approved. And do we need to take any other steps be amended okay. Now we approved the amended version.
Okay. With most of Rudy.
Yes, member Benson. Just while
we're here and the ordinance has been reopened. We still have a situation where half the demolition contractors will be banned from participating at like to reconsider the motion. I made earlier to ensure that we remove the two and three from the contractor line item from the corporate accountability clearance since we're here again
so number Benson, from my understanding and I will be open to addressing your concern. I think that it can be addressed with not removing number two, but amending number three and just taking out the word suspend and leaving the other language in there. For my understanding I spoke with Director counts as well regarding this and if that one word is removed that would address the concern.
I hadn't spoken with miscounts again, but I understand that as of now with the language for both that removes 6% of our demolition contractor.
So do we have someone from the administration that can come on and speak director counts or mr. Washington?
I'm Cher I'm actually reaching out to Director counsel see if she could join us again.
Madam Chair, it may be just a moment I know director council may be at a meeting in the community. I'm not sure if we want to come back to this item.
We are kind of on it now. If not, I just like to move forward. And we've already done that. So
make the motion calling.
Again. We can vote it down. Okay. All
right. So Mr. Benson wants to move forward with his motion as as is. So motion has been made to remove and we took this up already? Those two items. Are there any objections? You could show me as a no again Mr. Johnson Jasmine waters flood waters fake Santiago Romero objection, Santiago windmill. That motion does fail. Alright, and remember Doha think alas motion would be to move it as amended.
Thank you, Madam President. And if I could get some clarity to mr. Washington says we're in discussion right now. I don't know if he's still online. Is Mr. Badal available?
The chair he is not online, but director counts has joined us now.
And we fail. Sorry.
Sorry. I'm sorry, I was online. Are you doing is not online.
Through you, madam president. Hopefully she can answer it. I don't know. But from my understanding there's also language in there that talks about disbarment as well as our suspension versus permanent disbarment. And in this ordinance, and I know there was a mention of that, relative to the language and some concerns that just and I don't know if director counts can talk about that. Since we have it back open now.
Good evening, the Record Counts all time counts director construction and demolition department.
Director counsel, did you want to speak to the corporate accountability clearance in the impact of the wording currently as written?
I'm sorry, I was not on par to I'm not exactly certain what the question was.
Member member do Ah,
thank you, Madam President. So from my understanding, I guess this was more of a Mr. Bae doing question as well. But I don't know if you're familiar. There is language in there right now. That refers to suspension for contractors, I guess relative to be able to receive these credits as opposed to permanent disbarment. I know there was a discussion on that relative to then just the suspension and wanted to get some information further information on that.
Through the Chair. Yes. The clarity that I can provide to you is the difference between a suspension and a department. A department is more of a final, complete action and when we borrow a company from doing business with the city that also impacts their work beyond just the city so they don't do any work with us. Same thing with the state if the State Department's someone we typically don't do work with them either. A suspension is an internal mechanism that we use quite frequently to kind of control contract behavior. And the intent is that you issue a suspension to get the contractor back in alignment with what the scope of services that they were expected to perform under that contract. So it's not uncommon for us to suspend contractors in the current language, as it's in the ordinance. We've suspended just on the demo site. We've suspended 11 contractors in our program. So as it's currently written, those 11 companies would not be eligible for these equalization credits.
Thank you. And so, again, from my understanding, let's say you suspended 11 How many have cleaned up there at
is the I can't remember a thing I want to say at least three, we're no longer dealing with so they're not in the program at all, but the balance of all come back from their suspensions.
Okay, and through you, Madam President, and I think sorry, I saw Mr. Washington pop on the screen.
Yes, Madam Chair. Mr. Badal has joined the session now. Okay.
You seen in pairs
Good evening.
Good evening.
My apologies, council members. So, as I understand that I'm being asked to explain the proposal.
Yes, you're breaking up a little bit, but yes, please. Proceed. We're talking about the corporate accountability clearance and the two amendments that member Benson proposed to change regardless of what with the suspension
I'm sorry, what were the other two proposed by member of Edson?
Okay, number Benson is proposing to remove number two and three. This speaks to any licenses and registrations and certificates required for performance have been revoked in the last five years. This speaks to the contractor being disbarred or suspended by federal state or local governmental agencies.
Madam President, I mean, I wasn't talking about member business specific amendments. This is just concerns on page four, line seven through eight and provision three talking about the disclosure of disbarment as well as suspension.
That is what the same section that he's proposing is the exact same. You said two and three. Yeah, so two and three. Yeah, so you're just referring to number three alone? Correct. Okay. Mr. Hassan, if you would like to respond.
Sure. So so the removal of this requirement essentially allows for more flexibility in contracting so so currently as as written, it would provide a categorical bar to any contractor that has been disbarred or suspended by federal state or local authority over the past three years. By removing suspension. Essentially, we're allowing more Detroit based contractors that may have had hiccups especially early on in their business operations to still be able to to contract with the city and not necessarily provide a bar. There could be you know, various other inquiries into whether or not that contractor is still responsible contractor is required by other parts of the statute, or I'm sorry, by the ordinance. However, this on its own would not serve as a category of authority.
Thank you. Remember Doha?
Thank you, Madam President. So to clarify, it could be a situation let's say we did have someone who was a Responsible Contractor, but at one time was suspended under the ordinance as it's currently written, they finally clean their ACT UP or let's say what this caught what this ordinance in this spirit is intended to do. Let's say we have a contractor that becomes a responsible contractor does the workforce does all this but add a suspension prior clean their ACT UP, became a better company under the way that ordinance is written right now. It would require it would disbar them or at least it will make them not available for those credits as it is written now is that correct? That
is correct. They essentially would not be clear, as required by this provision in the ordinance
and through you madam president to Mr. Bae do know how many contractors possibly just off the top of your head may that affect that may affect some right now who may be considered responsible contractors under the definition of this ordinance, but hadn't been suspended in the past? Correct.
That's my understanding. I don't have the number for you offhand. But the the way it was explained to me by folks that are much closer to these contractors, these operations is such that this would absolutely apply to several current contractors that do business with the city and that are otherwise considered responsible.
I think again, I think to address was being raised my question that you keep talking you keep saying saying the word suspend, and we removed the suspension portion, just that one word, because I understand that contractors can get suspensions for minor things, accounting issues internally. And that's not the intent of the ordinance if there's a suspension for things that are internal, that had nothing to do with performance that wasn't the attention of the ordinance. So, again, if we were to just take that word out, and you just leave the department in here, does that address the issue of these contractors not being able to qualify for the credits and that's to either Hassan or direct accounts.
One I'll defer to you on the phrase department and how broad that scope is. With your understanding
like accounts we can't hear you you're muted.
Is she remotely muted?
Yeah, looks like she may have froze actually.
No worries. So I can I can attempt to speak to it with the understanding or the caveat that that I don't have the expertise that Director Director Collins has. I mean, I think that certainly goes a very long way in addressing the issue by removing the suspension element of it. The my I don't have a complete understanding, though, of what department entails. And if that if that if, for example, if there's such thing as a temporary department that, you know, is, I think a common understanding equal to a suspension. But you know, whether that's a term of art that that is encompassed by by department as it's used in the ordinance, and that's that's what I would defer to Director counsel on
All right. Is director comes back on Pierce, or do we lose her altogether?
Madam Chair, I believe she's trying to rejoin she was having connectivity issues.
And I know the motion has already been made and has failed. Already, like I said I based on the conversations that I've had with the department, removing that word. And also this was discussed with contractors as well to that they will be more comfortable with that particular word being removed that addresses the issues that have been raised. Direct accounts, are you there?
Yes, ma'am. I am.
Did you have anything additional to add?
I removing the word suspension does it it does not continue to be an impediment on those particular contractors.
Thank you. Alright. Does anyone want a motion for that? First portion? Okay. What's your motion member Vinson
remove the word suspend.
Okay. Motion has been made to remove the word suspend. Are there any objections? And that is for Section 44. He's me under the corporate accountability clearance. Fine. I don't have to remove the word suspend. Hearing no objections. That action will be taken. Thank you, Kelly. All right. And member Dora Hoff you would like to move now before the amended version of the ordinance.
Thank you, Madam President and through you to the parliamentarian. Do I have to still placed this on the order of a third reading and consider it read? Or can I just move for approval? Thank you, man. Thank you, Madam parliamentarian. So I moved to approve line item 15.1. As amended with a roll call vote.
Councilmember Johnston? Yes. Councilmember Santiago Romero? Yes. Council President Pro Tem tea. Yes. Councilmember waters? Yes. Councilmember young? Yes. Council President cheer for you. Yes. Eight yeas, zero nays?
The ordinance is approved. Dr. Powers just want to make sure it as you see is as amended. All right. Thank you. Thank you, colleagues. Thank you for that. All right, Councilmember Yang, we're going to now move to our referrals and that should represent for the day member Young.
Thank you, Madam President. I like to make a motion to move my items. 6.1 6.2 7.1 7.2 7.37 Point Source and point five and 6.6 from the neighborhood committee agenda and placed them on new business to be voted today. First
motion Okay, I like to make a motion to pull line item 6.1 6.2 7.1 7.2 7.3 7.4 7.5 and 7.6 from committee.
Motion has been made to pull these from the Neighborhood and Community Services standing committee. Are there any objections? Noting that the committee was did not meet last week and so did not have the time okay. Hearing no objections. The motion is approved. Remember Yun? Ms.
Powers was the next steps. Thank you, Madam President. I'd like to make a motion to put this on to final 6.1 6.2 7.1 7.2 7.3 7.4 7.5 and 10.6 on to new business.
motion has been made. Are there any objections? Hearing none, that action will be taken.
Uber young that was the point was that I like to make a motion to approve line item 6.1 6.2 7.1 standpoint to set point three standpoint for 7.5 and 7.6. From the neighborhood immunity neighborhood committee agenda. Thank you, Madam President.
Mr. Park, do you have all of these items present?
I do. There are six contracts and two special events.
Did you want me to review the contract sir. I can do that.
I think the clerk typically reads the contract even better.
Madam President, all contracts from the General Services Department. First up we have contract number 6005822. And this contracts have arrived periodic boat backing licensing and the total contract amount is $1. Next contract is kind of big number 600243181. And this is to provide an increase of funds for agricultural and construction equipment, contractors McWeeny equipment the total contract amount is $4,826,200. The next contract is contract number 60243181. This is to provide an increase of funds for agricultural and construction equipment. Repairs. I'm sorry, I believe that
Okay, ma'am, Madam President, I apologize.
Give me one moment, one moment okay. Next we have contract number 6003584. A one this is to provide an increase of funds but light duty vehicle purchases and ancillary services total contract amount $1,220,389. The next contract is contract number 6002431 A one putting up with the night in to provide an increase of plasma agricultural and construction equipment. total contract amount. Read this 4,826,000 US dollars. Next contract is cancelled. Number 60052871 2%. ARPA funded to provide as needed rental vehicles total contract amount and $200,000. The next contract is contract number 6005806 to provide construction renovations for command center for the Joe Lewis Greenway project at the DPD Oakman station. This is total contract amount $1,516,915.31. Last contract is contract number 6005849 For D percent capital funds 42% blight remediation funding right fiduciary and program management for city walls and ACE program contractor is space lab environment development total controlmouse $2,660,000. Councilmember young six resolutions for six contracts.
Councilmember Young.
Thank you Madam President. Before I move on, I like to have a discussion on line item 6.2. Thank you, Madam President. Through the Chair to mr. Washington. I don't know who we have available here to the probably miss Whitfield if I'm not mistaken, but I wanted to ask a question regarding these 10 trucks that are going to the police are going to be using them for I just want to know what exactly 11 Excuse me police response pickups. I just want to know what they're going to be used for. I'm sure you can easily add this one answer to that.
Yes. Through the Chair. do have director Perkins online
Yep, she has been promoted.
Good evening. Good evening.
Through the Chair of the vehicles that the police want as looking to seeking to acquire with this contract will be used for various reasons and they're different units. I know some are going to be specifically for pursuit. Some will be used it for the neighborhood police officers and other units. I do know there were some questions and concerns about the type of vehicle the model of vehicle but this will definitely help DPD when they are looking to transport like the and what things that they have to tow like the evil off tower things of that nature. In the past they've had to come to GSD to borrow a vehicle to tow but this will also help with those towing capacity and also transportation as far as transport transporting things that can put like into the pickup bed of the truck.
Thank you.
You're welcome.
Thank you
move to approve.
Any further discussion? Any objections on the items that were moved from Neighborhood and Community Services for a vote? Any objection? Objection? Member Santiago Amuro.
Objection on 6.2 7.4. Madam President,
we have information what's Continentals contract numbers?
Okay, contract number 7.4 is contract number 605 287.
Through you, madam president to my vice chair this is regarding ARPA funded rental vehicles.
As Dr. Kurtz, any
additional objections
objection to 6.2 member Johnson
information What's the 6.2 100 number?
It is
6003 Furby for a one? The 6.2
and you can ask also show me as a no one line item 7.6. And that is contracts 605 849. And I'm voting no. Due to the situation that recently took place with murals being erected throughout the city of Detroit without Council's approval. And I still wanted to have additional discussion around that before this was admitted to Council. This is a $2.6 million contract regarding the city walls and ACE program. And I'm just not comfortable moving forward until further discussion takes place regarding Council's authority and approval process being not yet circled minutes. Yes, I'm sorry, discussion. Member Johnson.
Thank you for that. Um, I have not selected to walk on the item that you're referring to. This is actually something altogether different.
I do. I do know that thank you for that member Johnson. I don't support the one that was going to be walked on. And for now, I don't support this one either. Because it's all tied to the city walls and arts and culture. I support arts and culture wholeheartedly. I'm just very disappointed at what took place with contracts or the approval process not coming before Council in these huge murals throughout down throughout the city trades primarily downtown Detroit that were put up without Council's approval. And so I would like to have more discussion.
Some manage Chair, may I clarify something that you just said?
I'm sorry, Director Perkins. Yes.
May I clarify something you just said regarding? So the contract that's before you for approval? I do respect your wish to hold this for more discussion. But you stated that the seven murals that went up downtown, they are not associated with city walls. Or they were not through ACE program. They were through a different department. So I do just want to make sure that's clarify for the record. Thank
you. And again, even though they were a different department, to me, it's all arts. So our culture is saw dealing with murals and paintings throughout the city of Detroit. And so, again, this council, I was made aware of it by article in the paper and people called me along with artists Detroit artists within our community were upset about what's at play. So I'm tying the two together. No one else has to that's just me. I would like to have more discussion about what took place and would like to get more information on how much money is actually even in each of these programs or what has it been used for to date because I have a lot of concerns and questions. So thank you. Alright, so we're referring back No, I was voting. So she had already moved these for approval. I voted was voting no on 7.6 We're going to ace in city was program one
if you want your questions.
Okay. All right. Let's
bring back 7.6 Madam President.
Okay, so we so we would like to bring back 7.62 He just we were in the middle of a vote
therefore, a few
zeros zero.
A is one and the other one is 706. Yes.
No problem. Alright, so we got to finish the vote before us. All right. Any other objections on these items? All right, hearing no other objections the resolutions will be approved. Madam President. Yes. Motion to reconsider vote for 7.6 motion has been made to reconsider line item 7.6. Any objections? Yes. All right. The clerk would note member young.
So no objection.
Okay. Hold him tight as well. We're constantly on our business to object the reconsideration to make sure basically you're okay to reject the object that we were motioning the vote was to reconsider right now.
opposed right if you're not sure do
you oppose as reconsidering Okay, so.
So yeah, you shouldn't say
yes, yeah. The vote is to reconsider any objections number Young has objected. Also remember to never do or ha has objected? Hearing no further objections that motion is approved. Member yonder pika move it for approval again now 7.6. I'm sorry move to postpone. As with
emotional life and discussion before I postpone. I just want to explain my reasons why I just wanted to say I respect my colleagues and the reason why I am required support moving this forward because the city Detroit desires to create an outdoor museum that will greet visitors to the city of Detroit for April 2020 for the National Football League NFL draft, the planning and development department, determined to seek out a firm with expertise in mural art that could identify, hire and manage cable and exciting artists. Sam street art for mankind approached PDD and expressed a strong desire to return to this the Detroit after painting the mural for the 36 District Court, anxious to incorporate their illustrations of the United Nations Sustainable Development Goals alongside the world class city, Detroit based mural artists Sam offered to do the work for an agreed upon price $215,000. This work has been done, the contractor seeks payment. Thank you, Mr. President. Thank you, colleagues.
Thank you, members, member Johnson.
Madam President, I think we are yet again tangling two different issues. So we just reconsidered the vote on the city's city wall mural program which was line item 7.6. Correct. And the statement that member young just read had all to do with the item that I was asked to walk on that I have not walked on. Oh, sorry. Thank you. I'm not you know, it's
just super late. I'm sorry. I apologize with with Buddha withdrawal by state.
All right. Cool. So is there a motion again to postpone line item 7.6. So moved. Alright, motion has been made to postpone line item 7.6 Hearing note or any objections, Hearing no objections that action will be taken. All right. So that takes care of all the number Young's the
president only viewed the contracts. We do have two special events I'm sorry. Okay, so basically events one is for Iran, the D 5k. And the second special event is for manure and the D councilmember young to residents member young
map has a bootable proof right
yeah. Yeah, Hearing no objections, the two resolutions will be fine, thank you. I'm gonna turn now to pro tem I know you have a few items.
Thank you, Madam President. There was a request. So in committee, it was a items dealing with the Home Repair and Roof Repair rather, for renew Detroit contracts and we in the committee, we decided to bring them back in January, having an opportunity to have more clarification in terms of conversations with the department. I believe so I'm comfortable moving forward. I understand the challenging nature of this and if not approved, how quite possibly will create a disruption of service and you do not want that to happen. I don't want that to happen. And so I am asking if we could walk these line items on for vote today and that is contract number 6005776. Contract Number 6005782. Contract Number 6005783 Contract Number 6005684.
motion has been made to guess.
The material present moved to pull those four contracts from the planning and development standing committee for vote to put onto the
motion has been made, Hearing no objections that action will be taken by
President yet like to place those four contracts. On to business isoamyl.
Hearing no objections that actually will be taken from Tim
no president I move approval of the four contracts. As I mentioned,
motion has been made. Are there any objections right Hearing no objections the resolutions will be approved a waiver
without a waiver.
A motion for waiver on all four kinds
of waiver has been requested. Hearing no objections that action will be taken all right. Mr. Clark, do you have any additional items?
Madam Chair? Madam Chair,
yes.
My apologies. I'm not sure if that was the time to make the request for the trash only contracts. And I do believe that Director Brian and director purchase online for the murals it the murals issue if they're able to address as well.
Okay, so I know that this was discussed and I'll turn it over maybe to the committee members. The trash contracts were discussed and there was a motion I thought to bring them back next year. And so I'm not sure if that has changed at all. There's a desire for us to take this up. Now. We're going to take this up at the top of the year. Number Santiago Ramiro. Thank you,
Madam President. We did have a discussion yesterday in committee, and we did not have the support to move it out of committee. So it is still there. And I believe that me and my colleagues still have some remaining questions regarding this contract.
All right. So I think if I see a couple other hands, but I think there may be a desire to bring this back at the top of the years will. Councilmember der Hall followed by councilmember Young. Thank you, Madam
President. I haven't decided that's my desire. Yeah, I would like for the administration away and just on some questions, relative to this and what could be the possibility if this is to be held up or not come forward in an expeditious manner. Do we have time if this comes back or not? Through you, madam president to the administration, I
see director Brundage is here or director Brennan's could probably just come on down and speak to.
Thanks me a lot of me now. Good evening, Ron Bruns, Director of DPW. Thank you for allowing me the opportunity to speak. I think I indicated before that the current trash hauling contracts expire June first of next year, and obviously that's five or six months out. So these contracts wouldn't go into effect. But I would ask the council to be mindful of the fact that these particular contracts and I think you guys have all heard that, if approved by city council will be going from current bi weekly collection of bulk yard waste and recyclables, the weekly collection. So there's going to be there's going to be a period of time where the contractors are going to have to ramp up or we're making a recommendation to award one of the contracts to an existing company waste management. That company is going to have to buy 20 additional trucks and hopefully receive those by June 1 of next year to be ready to go and in a position to be successful on June 1. And similarly with the new contractor that we're proposing priority waste was a new company to the city. They've indicated that they're going to provide 70 new trucks to provide this service. So the reason that we're before you now is that we just like for you to take into consideration that there is a transitional period. This is the reason that we wanted to put these contracts out so far in advance because we wanted to recognize that the contractors aren't going to be able to get a contract today and be ready to provide the service the following day. There is a lead period now there's a lag period from the time that they place their orders to the time that they receive before they withdraw they received their new equipment. So our reason for asking that council, consider at this time that it'd be allowed to be walked on is just to take into consideration the opportunity or the possibility. There is a position that we want to be in has given our contractors every opportunity to be successful when we transition to the increased level of service person next year. Thank you,
Madam President. So just to respond. So this is and I think it speaks to a deeper issue that me and my colleagues talk about sometimes just the length of the procurement process and it feels that sometimes particularly important things like this, when they come in front of us we're like, you know, we're we're faced with a decision whether we're going to possibly possibly jeopardize trash pickup or not, which is a huge thing. And so I think that speaks deeper to the procurement process. I guess my specific question is we come back in January, knowing that sometimes these procurement this procurement process has taken five to four to five months, we went through the same thing whether it was trans dev or a paratransit or whatever the case may be, is there a possibility that there will be any interruption in service
through the care remember, Darryl, thank you for that question. I want to be very honest and forthright with my response. I believe that what's the better possibility is that if the if the approval for these contracts are delayed, that we may not be in a position on June 4 on June 1 of next year, to transition to the higher level of service we've made because now we're going to be looking at we assume that the contracts on approved until January. Now we're looking at just given the contract is four to five months to acquire the equipment. Hire all the additional stamping, and they may or may not be in a position whereby they're ready to provide the enhanced level of service. I'm not going to tell you that we're not going to have trash collection, but what I will say is that there is a possibility that the enhanced level of service may be delayed as a result of the contract approval process.
Thank you, Madam President.
Thank you, Mr. President. For my understanding you are using the solid waste management fund surplus to to 18 point 8 million and then you're going to phase into general fund support cover the incremental costs and new contracts. My question is, is as you start shifting over to General Fund at some point in time, it's gonna be purely general fund. One I don't know if I asked you this or if I asked you know what, Mr. Watson or somebody physically this but I just want to make sure one, are we gonna have to be in a situation where we had to potentially raise the garbage fee in order to pay for this? And then secondly, can we be fiscally responsible and prudent with this new spending? Because we're going from 8.3 million to 24 to 21 point 8 million in fiscal year 2029. You know, we're gonna be discussing other things in terms of pensions, you know, where we discuss things in terms of our bus drivers and in terms of raising their pay and rightfully so. I just want to make sure with this we're fiscally responsible.
Through the Chair, I can say that the proposal that we put in front of this body doesn't provide for any, any increase of the existing solid waste fee. It's going to remain at 20 and $40. I'll ask our budget director, Mr. Watson to provide a little more detail.
So through the chair to member young thank you for that very important question. So the proposed contracts today, you know, as we discussed, do expand service and these are some service enhancements we heard a lot about during our engagement on the budget both this past fall in the year before a lot of residents are asking for. Cleaner neighborhoods, more bulk pickup, more illegal dumping picked up and addressed. And so this expanded service does cost more. So in the first year, it's an incremental cost of $12 million growing to an additional 17 and a half million dollars by the final year of the contract. What we've proposed here today is in lieu of a solid waste fee, increase the current 20 $40 fee, we would first spend down the existing solid waste fund balance, which we've already been doing in recent years, and then phase in additional general fund support gradually through fiscal year 29 starting at about $8 million now and growing to almost $22 million by 2029. So definitely many years to phase in that budget impact. Also sitting here today. We just had a September revenue conference a couple of months ago where we certified revenue is higher than the current budget of $30. million dollars of recurring revenues in this current fiscal year and growing to about $52 million by 2027. So this incremental cost of the general fund is within our current budget capacity due to grow in revenues. And so our recommendation is in lieu of a fee increase and adding that additional financial burden on residents will let the residents benefit from our growing taxes or growing economy to deliver on this budget priority. But along with that, we do recognize it's a very big change to substantial cost increase. And what we've committed to do is starting in December, December fourth as part of the Department of neighborhoods, regular Doncaster meetings, you know, not only will we want to educate the public on this expansion services being proposed and if approved today, but also how we would fund it, you know, again, the currently use the fee to pay for the cost of service. The expansion would be supported by the general fund. So certainly the fee would remain in place and continue to cover the base level of service but the increase in service would be supported by the general fund and gradually phased in our budget. To protect our budget ensure we can meet other budget priorities as well. Mr. Corelli.
Thank you, Madam Chair. Good evening city council. So it was my understanding in the committee is that they wanted to make sure that the public public was informed about the increase of costs to general fund and I believe it would be prudent for the City Council to undertake this discussion with the citizens, hopefully, indeed, December, January, because our observations of the budget meetings in the fall there was no discussion about or there was no clamoring from the citizens for wheelie bar, because the main discussion that our that we picked up with illegal dumping is the issue of illegal dumping. But we did not hear that a core service was weekly, pick up walk, yard waste, and so on. And so the way the contract is right now, without a fee increase, and I want to make this clear, a fee has been 20 $40 for 14 years. The fee started out at $300 back in 2007 2009. It was reduced to 20 and $40 because of efficiencies and DPW at that time, and the Feagin are way back then, at $300 $74 million. When it went down to 20 to $40. It's now generating $16 million as forward in 2023. The fee is the only generating $54 million and cost of a vital service is 58 may not so even if you were to maintain the current level of service is at a deficit situation. Now if Council were to eventually approve the enhanced services under the contract, which are commendable, you know, I understand that many citizens may want to have weekly pick up on certain items, but it's going to cost the general fund. And to me, that's another slippery slope. I've been personally through the bankruptcy process for a very, very hard process, right. And so I just feel we do not want to go back into doing things that's going to eventually drain a general fund without a fee and creeks and again, it's been 14 years council approved fee increases and recede a few months ago, recognizing that means those fees had not been increased over a number of years, 15 years or so. So here's the fee increase that I feel should take place, and citizens should be informed about that. And council should in my opinion wait into January to ensure that you understand that this is what the citizens want. And if they want it, they need to understand that there should be a fee increase by 2026 because right now there's surplus dollars in solid waste plan to carry over for a few years back surplus dollars are gone. In my mind. That needs to be a fee increase to make the trash hauling services, fiscally sustainable, otherwise it is not. And I just want to end with this. Yes, right. Now this project it is on increase general fund revenue. But we have some upcoming budget pressures that I think are really real. We got 17 labor contracts that's going to expire after June 30 2024 And about six months. We got two labor contracts expiring as of June 30 2025. We got to labor you'll hear contracts expiring as of June 30 2026. And those are the Detroit firefighter contracts. Then, in 2027, as of June 30 2027, there's gonna be a renew request for the police police related contracts and we know that and again, rightfully so we know that those contracts were really approved and increase to bring in more on salary increases for police officers. That's gonna cost the general fund over the period of time $86 million and so we just have a lot of budget pressures that I think Council these are really undertake and understand, and I feel like you really need to understand what the citizens feel about this. And if they want you to approve these contracts without a fee increase, then we have to all understand that we're getting to a point again in my mind that we get back to a slippery slope situation. And, you know, I'm hoping that like administration is saying we could continue to have economic vitality going on. You know, I'm hoping that but that's that's that's a crystal ball that I cannot read right? Reading four or five years from now. So that's those are my concerns. I really, I really wish that you would wait into January to hear from your constituents to see how family they feel. Going to weekly pick up is a core service to them. Thank you.
Thank you thank you so much, Mr. Coralie. So you are recommending that we postpone for now to a lot of additional time and we appreciate your report and your thorough, just, you know, research on the financial aspect of this as well too. So thank you, Mr. Corley. Was there any additional comments on us even taking this up or postponing
May I was going to make a motion for to assign it to LPD for us to be able to have a report on what the impacts fiscally would be from this. So I'd like to make a motion.
Mr. Corelli. Anything on it?
I'll say no, I'll send a written memo as well. I just want to make a motion on the table now.
All right. All right. Any objections? Hearing none, that motion is approved.
Member Benson thank you for yourself. too.
Maybe it's Mr. Watson on this one. There's been a commitment to do the community outreach and community engagement communications plan. And will that data be available for dissemination to Detroit City Council?
So through the chatter member Benson so so we would begin on December 4, and certainly we'd, much like we did with the priority forums back in the fall. You know, there'll be recorded you know, we'll obviously take notes on folks verbal and written comments will present the issue of the expanded service as well as the financial impacts and how the city's general fund could absorb it, and then the trade off between that and a fee increase. And then we would, you know, we would we could present those findings as we go. You know, we our plan is to engage with the community to educate them about both the service expansion and the financial ramifications, both in December and all the way through into June. And we can present ongoing updates to the council as we go, whether it be monthly or, you know, as often as there's updates to provide, and certainly during the budget hearings that council will hold in March and April. This would also be a ripe topic of discussion, as we talked about DPW budget and the budget as a whole.
So one of the things I hope that you will ask is to our residents. Everybody likes something for free. I love free as well. Cash flow analysis is fantastic. But oftentimes people are willing to pay maybe not the full fare, but a small portion of an increase in services, which would then even reduce the pressures on the general fund. So I'm hoping that we will even ask, are you willing to pay take any increase? If the answer is no then fine. But if there's people whose app I'm okay with a 10% increase or 15% I hope that information will be brought back as well. My question will be asked by residents. Thank you.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you Director Brundage.
Thank you, Madam Chair, if I may. Just Just a final word. We're certainly going to take back your comments and welcome in over the next month or so getting all of the information as much as information as possible from the residence based on what we heard today. Again, I do think it's important that I reiterate that the current contracts expire on June 1, and the longer that we're in a position where contracts are approved, the greater likelihood that we may not be in a position where the new contractors will be ready to go. On June 1, you know, with the increased level of staff and staff, I know I'm repeating myself, but I do think that's an important thing to take into consideration but we're certainly going to go back over the next month and get all of the information that's been requested.
Thank you. Any additional, I think, again, I don't I haven't heard any motion to bring you forward. So I think council members would like to stay even where it is, which is in committee and take this up at the top of the year. Thank you.
To the chair. I just wanted to respond to the procurement process. Comment so I know that the procurement process process does feel very long for the service that we desire quickly. We we bid these out more than a year in advance to try to make sure that by the time the current contracts expire that we could provide these expanded services. So we do want to set the contractors up for success to be able to provide the quality services that we all desire. We I believe DPW has also committed to making service quality and monitoring of the contracts a very high priority through dedicated staff. And I I just want to note even though and I I completely understand counsels desire to thoughtfully consider and appreciate all the questions that have come up and we have tried to address them very quickly and thoughtfully. And I'm in I in we just in our careful negotiations and evaluation, we ran up against the recess deadline, you know, and it's just something that we all you know, work work with and so I just I just want to know, without not I really do not want mean this as a pressure point, but just to be aware that we would likely delay the start of the expanded services.
Thank you, Mr. Dua.
Thank you, Madam President. And I want to state I wasn't insinuating that it's a departmental problem or it's a staff problem more so than it is ordinance problem relative to what's in the charter. I can certainly appreciate you following the rules being ethical and ensuring that whatever you put in front of us, is a is a good contractor, so to speak. But to that point, looking at, you know even hearing from council members who have been here for two years and haven't gotten their account yet, okay is crazy. Or other departments within city government, that are in the executive branch that have needs, but based off of having to and the procurement process as written in some ways, them not being able to get the things that are needed is not more of a departmental issue more so than it is a policy issue, which was my point and so would love to work with you and examine how we can work to fix that as well while still maintaining adnp current process but but again, when it comes to certain city services, whether that be transportation or whether that's trash, those are the core of city services, those are the things that people care about. Those are the things that if it's one person and my district who's trashed it and get picked up, they're calling my cell phone for that. And so it's a huge issue. And so we I just want to make I want to ensure that when these important contracts, particularly like that come up, then we have the ability to have that time obviously to review them, but not have to go through a significantly long process where it could possibly delay those services. So that wasn't that was my point. Thank you, Madam person.
Thank you. All right. Thank you remember, Doha? Thank you all for being here. All right. Mr. Clerk, do we have anything additional? Mr. Washington,
Matthews, Madam Chair, I'm not to belabor the point on the mural issue. But Director Perkins is asking if she could just jump on, if possible to reconsider that item. Just even though I know you know that that those two are separate and you acknowledge that this may also support some of those individuals that express concern about the other issue that's lingering with murals. And so if she could speak to that, that would be appreciate it.
We can bring director Parker's over. I I will be okay with reconsidering that particular line item. But again, we will not be taking up if the street art for mankind contract that was entered into without constant approval until we come back from recess, but based on some information that I did just receive via email, we can reconsider that member Yang if you would like to reconsider that particular item and that is contract. That is line item 7.6 Contract Number 6005849.
Motion to reconsider.
All right, any objections? Hearing none, that motion is approved. Council Member Yeah.
Got powers is moved to move to approve.
Is there any discussion and again, this is the contract 6005 A four nine for the management of the city walls and ACE program. There any discussion? Any objection? Hearing no objections that one resolution will be approved. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Director Parkins Thank you,
Madam President.
Thank you, Mr. Clerk, anything else?
Members? I don't have anything else. All right.
For the bonus report on standing committee referrals and other matters for the budget, Finance and Audit standing committee
two reports for the Office of the Auditor General.
The two reports will be referred to the budget Finance and Audit standing committee for the Planning and Economic Development standard.
Three reports in various city departments.
The three reports will be referred to the committee for the request to address Council
subminimum a resolution session are Ruben Jake Brown Jr.
The one resolution will be referred to the internal operations Standing Committee under the consent agenda. There are no items Madam President, all right. And we will now call for suspension to report. All right here we know that action will be taken in Madam President.
Yes, remember why I'm not
objecting, but can I make an announcement? I just I just want to give condolences to one of my staff members who she left a join Underwood who lost her mom. And so I just kind of Yeah.
Arming I'm gonna say yes.
Thank you.
And we also have Mr. Whittaker. You mentioned someone else recently. He wanted to mention as well that has