I think, you know, I'd love to go further on that, because I I'm reflecting on what I said and how I said it, and I know it can sound really esoteric and kind of hard to get your hands around, so I actually want to get really practical with people, because I do think the first part of it is being present to what you feel right now and not trying to talk yourself out of it. Okay, that's, that's really what I was trying to say. Like, if you're stressed, own it. If you're feeling defeated, own it. You don't have to, like, rally yourself out of things right away. However, the other side of that is, you know, all the the gnashing of teeth and the rending of garments that you want to do, actually, you know, feel all the feels and do all of that. But don't mistake that for the constructive work of the world, or the constructive work that you're here to do, right? It the worrying and the whining has actually really low social utility. It might feel really good for you, and you might need to do it. So worry and whine all you need to, but then, like there is a Okay, and now get moving to it, and that's where I think optimism is a practice like that word that we use so much at lantern and that we use so much in our book, and it's used a lot in mindful leadership circles. Let's talk about the word practice when you when you hear it a lot it, it kind of loses its meaning and it becomes this arbitrary concept. But I want people to think about practice the way you think about practicing for a sport or practicing an instrument. You practice things that you want to get better at. You practice things that you're not great at. You practice things that you're excellent at, that you want to become superb at. And this kind of conscious leadership, this optimistic leadership, a mindful way of looking at the world in a more positive way is practice, which means that when you're feeling like defeated and depressed, instead of allowing yourself to the indulgence of going into that place for a year or a decade, the practice says, Well, I know that this is real For me, and I also know it's not constructive. So what could I do to make distance between myself and my thoughts? What could I do to do something constructive or additive for myself or my team? What do I need to do to rest and replenish so I can re engage? But the word practice, you know, it's not this fuzzy concept. And so much of this work ends up saying like, well, I didn't do it the way I wanted to yesterday. So today, I will consciously try to practice being more optimistic, not immediately reading the news, not getting caught in a doom scroll cycle, not gossiping with the person next to me, whatever it is you need to practice. But there is no way around like right now that, yes, be present to what you feel like. Don't deny it. I think that is one of the challenges is, is denying what, what's real to us, but then you have to practice something different, like just complaining and criticizing doesn't really help anything. And here's the I'll stop after this. Here's the here's the metaphor I've been thinking so much about. And you may have had an experience similar to this. Imagine going camping or hiking with some friends, or road tripping with some friends, or whatever, and you get hopelessly, horribly lost in the woods. You have no idea where you're gonna go, the sun setting. You're not sure who was supposed to be keeping directions, but nobody's doing it. And you find out, like, we're way back here. We're gonna probably have to sleep here for the night. And you know what was that? Was that thunder? Uh oh, oh, man, it might rain. And someone says, like, Okay, well, this sucks, but you know, maybe I can gather up some wood for a fire. And someone else is like, Oh yeah, okay, let me get some leaves. Let's find a place for all of us to sit. And someone else is like, I found a few rocks we can roll up here. There might be a cave over there. And the last person just talks about, I can't believe it's gonna rain. Oh, my God, we're stuck out here. It's never gonna work like it's not helpful, low