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Episode 163 - Disrupting the new business "rules" and creating something better

Brooke Monaghan38min

Brooke Monaghan

00:00

I have now been working for myself full time for three and a half years, my income has grown every year I'm paying myself more than I was getting paid before. I love what I do. And I cannot overemphasize just how imperfect this process has been just how much it has not gone to plan, and how often I question everything in between my own experience and the work that I have done mentoring coaching, advising dozens of entrepreneurs, I can tell you with full confidence, I truly believe that your mindset is the most important element to sustainable business growth. It's not everything. But when you are in the practice of bringing your awareness to and addressing your mindset, the external strategies fall into place in a way that it just doesn't if you are operating from old, outdated narratives. And if you are not addressing this element of things, it is going to be so hard to navigate the uncertainty of entrepreneurship and keep going when things don't go according to plan. For the first time ever, I'm running a live training, where I'm going to walk you through the five mindset shifts that I teach my clients in my signature program transcend your dichotomy training camp, you're going to learn how mindset plays into sustainable business growth. The five mindset shifts that I teach my clients to address unsustainable patterns and how you can use these shifts to get into motion toward your goals and challenge the status quo in your industry, which is what we are all about. You can go to bit.li/tyt Live to register the training is happening on February 15 2023. At 1pm Pacific Time, it's going to go for one hour, but I am going to stay later for any questions that you have. So you can block 90 minutes if you think you might have questions bit.li/t y d live to get yourself registered. You're listening to transcend your dichotomy, the podcast where we break the rules that say we have to leave ourselves behind in pursuit of success. I'm Brooke Monaghan and I created the show for purpose driven business owners. Together we'll talk about how to go for your goals have an impact, all while honoring yourself, your desires and your values.

Brooke Monaghan

02:08

Hello, it feels great to be back. You all are like what do you mean, we've been listening every week, I have not been recording every week because I did a bunch of guest interviews toward the end of 2022. And I queued all of them up through the month of January so that I had a little bit of space. And so this is the first episode that I am recording solo in quite a while. And I'm really happy to be back chatting with you all. Now, while I was taking a bit of a hiatus, at least from recording, it was still sharing some things on social media and in my email list that started a bit of a conversation. And I'm really excited to have the conversation finally with y'all because usually I have the conversation with you first. Now, you know, if you've been around here for any period of time how I feel about breaking the rules in business, I say it in the introduction to this podcast, right. breaking the rules is something that I have been advocating for for a couple of years now. And specifically breaking the business rules and not getting bogged down in how you think you should be doing things. Because as I we have discussed at length here, but in case you are new, I think I know actually, that all that does is first of all, it stifles your own creativity. But it also leads you to unsustainable and misaligned business practices. Right. Allow me to remind you that a strategy, right a business strategy is when you have a specific outcome that you want to get. And then you create a plan to get that outcome. Doing things because you think it's the right way to do things is not strategic. Right doing something just because it's what you've heard you're supposed to do is not an intentional strategy. And this is why I talk at length on this show. And in all the places I don't know where y'all are connecting with me, but I hope you're connecting with me on my email list and on social. But maybe it's just here, great because this is where I talk about it the most. But this is why I'm always talking about having to move through those five growth phases to creating an impactful values aligned sustainable business. We talked about these a lot. So moving from seeking saviour through Fallout and to agency and to conscious power. You have to do those things before you can actually start approaching your business in a strategic way. Because anytime you're doing something just because it's what you think you're supposed to do, or just because you think it's the right way and it's not intentionally aligned with a specific outcome that you want and a plan that you put in place. Um, you're not being strategic right. So that's why this is so important. Now, over the past Last year, I'd say maybe a bit longer, I have been noticing something I've been observing something that's happening with me.

Brooke Monaghan

05:09

And I've been observing it happen to other people. But I've definitely been observing that for myself, I have been impacted by some of the new kind of rules of how you should run your business. Now, when I first started talking about all this stuff, I feel like back when I first started this podcast, hustle culture was way more mainstream, there's a lot more criticism of it now. Back when I first started this podcast, the needing to be visible all the time narrative was very mainstream, the needing to be posting all the time, the you know, there was a lot of advice around like, more manipulative, like sales practices. And we're seeing this criticism of that much more mainstream now. And I'm really happy about that. I think that that is fantastic. However, I am now I was over the past year, certainly being impacted by some of these narratives. And it's been very interesting to me to notice, because I was absolutely and in many ways still am, one of the people who has been kind of elevating this critical, you know, has been very critical of these business practices. And also, I'm being impacted by hearing them all the time. And it's been an interesting thing for me to wrestle with. But, um, if you are a listener of the show, then you know that or maybe you don't, I put out an episode. Back in September, it was called stop marketing to the hassles of your industry, you can go back and find that it was from September, I believe it was episode like 146, maybe, where I first touched on this topic publicly. And I think I mentioned like, this is something that's been bubbling for me for a while, and I haven't felt ready to talk about it publicly. But I think I've processed some stuff. And now I'm ready to talk about it. And I shared something that I was seeing happening online, where disruptive business owners, people who wanted to shake things up and want to have a impact on their industry, where they are challenging the way that things are being done, I was noticing that they were kind of spending. And I put myself in this category, because I used to be this person to a lot of time kind of yelling at the people whose behavior they want to change and very little time thinking about what their community actually needs from them, right? The people who they actually want to help what those people need to hear, rather than like yelling at the assholes, basically, of your industry. And this had led me to unfollow quite a few people on social media and unsubscribe from several newsletters, because I noticed that the constant criticism was getting in my head and it was doing something to me were like, I think that I wasn't, it was sneaky, right? Because I didn't realize at the time that I was falling prey to a lot of the things that I speak out against, like it was stifling my creativity, it was making me afraid to speak up, it was making me focus so much on doing things the right way that that I was kind of afraid to show up as consistently, I don't know, it was it was weird. So I ended up having to just unfollow and unsubscribe from a whole bunch of accounts, because it was too much. Now, back in December, so this was just a couple of months ago. At this point, if you follow me on Instagram, you might have seen that I shared a post on Instagram, it was a carousel post where I talked about and I actually pinned it to the top of my profile. So if you want to find me, I'm Briggs Monaghan on Instagram, I talked about having PTSD and how one of my greatest fears is being bad, like, quote unquote bad or finding out that I am actually a terrible person. And thus I deserve like terrible treatment. And how the most triggering corner of the internet for me right now or over the past couple of years is the one that's devoted to current calling out harmful business practices. I put this post up because I felt like okay, you know what I've been simmering on this for like a year, I've been trying to reconcile this and figure out how we can do better and I'm ready to start talking about it publicly. I want to share with you in case you missed that like a little bit about what I said there. And then in the rest of this episode, I want to talk about like how I think we can do things better. Because I've been thinking about this quite a bit for the past couple of months. And here's the thing, like we need to challenge the way that things are being done. We absolutely need to and also we need to be aware of the impact that the just constant kind of criticism is having on people and also the impact that it might be having on you. And I think that we also need To be willing to step into creation mode so that we can actually create something better. So let me share a bit with you about what I said in this post, I got a whole bunch of DMS and comments where some of you were like, Oh my gosh, I feel like this is exactly what I've been going through. And so I think that you might find it relatable. So I said, I have PTSD, one of my greatest fears is being bad or finding out the despite my best efforts, I'm actually a terrible person who deserves terrible treatment. And for me, the most triggering corner of the internet is the one devoted to calling out harmful business practices. I was once very active in that space, and I spent a lot of time calling out unethical business practices. But now I'm concerned, I'm concerned because I think that those of us who fear being bad or doing that, or lacking self awareness, being part of the problem, inadvertently hurting people, we are the ones who are drawn to that space. And I think that it is making many high integrity folks even more fearful of taking steps to grow their businesses, because of the level of criticism that is ringing in their minds. I'll speak for myself, when I say that it creates a false sense of security. So to surround myself with these conversations, all of the potential quote unquote, wrongs are on my radar, and I'm on the quote unquote, good team. And at the same time, the amount of time that I have to spend explaining to struggling business owners that they are not doing anything wrong by owning the power of their work, or by strategically growing their business is also concerning to me. I think that those of us who fear doing wrong are drawn to these spaces as a way to protect ourselves from the potential backlash or punishment that could come from growing our businesses, and then finding out that we're actually money grubbing sleazebag pieces of garbage. Meanwhile, the people who are building manipulative marketing machines have ducked out of the conversation a long time ago. Thus, the messages included intended for them are landing on the wrong, folks. So I want to be clear, right? I am not saying that these conversations shouldn't be had. Not for a moment, I think that calling out a harm is important. I think unethical business practices should be named as such. And I think that the conversation should continue. But I also have a lot of respect for folks who are doing this work, which is why my hands are shaking as I was typing this Instagram post, because I know that this might strike a nerve for people who I know are well meaning, but I think that we need to take some responsibility. So I called for us all to collectively take some responsibility. Number one for number one, me. So I take responsibility for my own triggers by removing people from my orbit, who talked to their entire audience like they are assholes. In my moments of clarity, I'm confident that I'm not an asshole. So I'm not going to subject myself to being spoken to that way. And if my work makes you feel that way, then I would invite you to unfollow me as well. Right. So first of all, I think we do need to take some responsibility for ourselves. It's not anybody else's problem that I am. I don't think that it's anybody else's problem that I'm feeling like very triggered by that corner of the internet, I'm just going to remove myself from it right. The second thing is, I asked you to take some responsibility by asking yourself who you're trying to help and interrogating if the conversations that you're having are really helping your people, or if they are instead acting as a way for you to signal that you are one of the quote unquote, good ones or two gatekeepers, because there is a lot of gatekeeping going on y'all. There are a lot of people who have you know, they're talking about how they've been doing this for so long, and they know what they're doing. And there's all of these quote unquote, coaches, I love the square the scare quotes around coaches, who are just trying to like manipulate you out of money. It feels very gatekeeping to me, so I'm also calling for people to take responsibility for that, and for all of us to take some responsibility by asking ourselves like, who are we trying to help? And what did they need from us, and to the corner of the internet that claims to be trauma informed, and is highly concerned with how bro marketers plan people's trauma. I am calling for these folks to sit with the reality that you are also playing on people's trauma. People are afraid of doing wrong by their communities. I am not saying stop talking about this stuff. I'm just asking you to recognize and own the nuance of this. And think about how you're impacting the people that you want to help. Because if we can sit with that, and we can reconcile that and we can figure out how to do better, it's going to make the conversation about ethical business a lot better for everybody. Again, I have a lot of respect for folks who speak out and continue to speak out against unethical business practices and expose the reality of the business development industry. There's clear issues, but I think it's time to take note of who we are talking to hear and who we're trying to help. And if the messages that we are sharing are even making it to the folks that we want to call out and thus the ways that we may be stirring up fear for the people who we are saying we want to help right

Brooke Monaghan

15:01

And I kind of left it with just like, I don't have a bow to put on this. I'm still thinking on this, and I'm willing to hear your thoughts. And I heard from a lot of people, I got a lot of DMS, I got a lot of comments where people were like, wow, yeah, I am finding myself in a place where I'm really dragging my feet on moving forward on some big things in my business. Because yeah, I am afraid, like, I'm afraid that anything that I do, is going to somehow be wrong or bad. And listen, my show this podcast is not for the big time gurus of the industry. This podcast is for people who are still dealing with some of that mindset stuff as they try to grow their business. And it's also for people who have a lot of integrity. And so I'm guessing that if you're listening to this, you really care about doing right by your community, and you probably are, in some way being affected by these conversations as well. So here's the thing, right, there's there is a place for criticism, and if you want to disrupt your industry, you are going to have some feelings about what other people are doing, you're just going to because there's a reason why you care about what you do, there's a reason that you are choosing to do what you do. And it's going to bring up some emotion and some feelings and some criticisms and, and that kind of thing. And you should talk about them. Right, this is a show for people who want to stir things up and want to challenge the way that things are being done. So you're gonna have to talk about them, right. But I want to talk about how we can be more a little bit more constructive and helpful for our communities and create something better rather than just labeling every thing as bad and wrong. Because at the end of the day, I don't know about the industry that you are in, but in the industry that I am in, I am watching the effects of this in every call that I sit down with with clients who are like afraid, afraid to move forward, because they think that they are going to find out that they are like a piece of crap. So I have five things that I want to run through. And I My hope is that these five things are going to help you kind of direct you toward how to create something better for your community. And also, I would love to hear from you. If you have questions on this or if you want to continue the conversation. Send me an email Brooke at Brooke Monaghan, Brooke dash monaghan.com Brooke at Brooke dash monaghan.com or DME over on Instagram. I'm Briggs Monaghan, I would love to hear your thoughts because this is a conversation I want to continue. And I don't know I'm sure a lot of this is me coming from my own experience and noticing what was going on. For me, sharing it once and hearing from people and hearing, I'm not alone. But like, maybe you have a different perspective or a different experience. And I'd love to hear that too. Because we need to reconcile all this stuff to do better. Okay. The number one thing is to do your own mindset and confidence work. If you're feeling triggered by someone else in your industry, notice the judgments that you are making and get curious about your own confidence. Because people tend to project their insecurities onto other people, right? We all do this, no one is exempt from that. And when you do that, what you're doing is you're shifting something that you need to address within yourself on to other people in your industry. So notice any patterns, right? What is something that really gets under your skin or causes you to start sub tweeting and anger? The sub tweeting is getting me everybody, I can't with the sub tweets. I'm starting to get so defensive of people. I think that now that I am a few years into this, and I'm working with a lot of people who are just starting out, I have less and less patience for the angry sub tweeting, which if you don't know what sub tweeting is, it's like you're talking about somebody in your posts without naming them explicitly. But like, it's clear that you're talking about an individual person. The constant sub tweeting about beginners is really pissing me off. I've been noticing a lot of like, I'm not interested in your opinion, if you don't have at least XYZ experience or, you know, if somebody can't explain to you one that I saw recently was if somebody can't explain to you exactly why they're exactly what you're going to get out of working with them then like that's a red flag and run and I'm kind of like maybe or maybe it's just that they're just starting and like they're having a hard time coming up with their value proposition like I don't know. I feel like we're labeling a lot of beginner behavior as like manipulation and I don't buy it. I think that there's a lot more nuance Isn't that anyways? So maybe that's my trigger that I need to work through. But if you notice any patterns that are constantly have you wanting to like pull out your phone and like angry post about somebody? I'm just saying, like, get curious about what those triggers are get curious about what it is that's constantly making you that worked up? Why does it upset you so much? Is there any fear that people might perceive you that way? Or, you know, do you think that maybe you might act like that sometimes, and you need to make it very clear why you're different from them? I don't know. But whatever it is, get curious. Now, I'm not saying that it's always going to be projection, not by a longshot, okay, that's bullshit. That's a way to like shift responsibility off of the people who we are challenging, right? It's, that's not always the case that is going to be projection, but sometimes it is going to be, for example, I often notice that coaches who have very strong opinions about who should or should not call themselves a coach, oftentimes, this concern softens, as their confidence grows, right? There's a little less imposter complex going on, and they've gotten their footing as a coach, and thus, the judgments about what other people should do starts to kind of soften because their own self, self confidence is growing, and their own self criticism is kind of softening, right? Any judgments that you're making about yourself, you're probably going to project those on to other people to kind of create this more coherent worldview. And so I think this is something to get curious about, if you want to create something better, and not just kind of swirl around in what everyone else is doing wrong, but actually create something different, then this is the first place to look, where is your confidence lacking? Where do you need to address some of your own stuff around what you are or are not allowed to do? Those of us who are susceptible to shoulds, to what I should do or shouldn't do those of us who are susceptible to perfectionism, it's very easy for us. And I'm saying us because I belong in this category as well, to look out at people who are not doing that to themselves and to get angry at those people. Because you can't just do that. And it's like, they kind of can and you can do, right. So that's the first place to look. The second thing is, and I'm not going to go super in depth on this, because I have that whole podcast episode about it on stop marketing, to the hassles of your industry. But remember who you are here for. Now, this is something that I am I talk about this with all of my clients all the time, not just because it is going to help us with this conversation we're having here about how to be a bit more constructive when we are challenging the status quo. But also because it's just good marketing. And it's very easy to spin your wheels and you're creating content, you're creating marketing, if you're not clear on who it is that you are speaking to, when you put stuff out there. So essentially, you need to get very clear on who you are here to help. Chances are your ideal clients don't need to be lectured on why the standard practice in your industry is bullshit. They might need to be reminded sometimes right? Because they are getting all of these messages that might be making them feel a certain way might be misguiding them. And it's important for you to talk about it so that you can remind them but you don't need to constantly be talking to them about why everyone in your industry is like a piece of crap. That's just not what they need. What they need is they need like some support if if what your industry is producing is not helping them then how can you help them? In other words, right? What do they need? And how can you speak to that so that you can support them better. So get clear on who they are. And right now at the time of this episode is coming out the aligned business portal is still in beta, but it will be coming back and it will be available and if you need some help getting clear on who your offers are for and what your people need to hear from you. Then the aligned business portal when it is back out is going to be your jam. The third thing is listen to understand and provide nuance and context. It is very tempting to grab something that someone else created and immediately go into why it's bad, why it's wrong and how you know better asked me how I know

Brooke Monaghan

24:50

go to any comments section on any YouTube video. Go to any comments section on any actually like hyperbole. forming like posts on Instagram, you're gonna find this natural human tendency where people just want to grab one thing that this person said, and then jump in and explain to everybody in the comments why they know better and this person was wrong. Now fine, whatever people do it, you can't control how people behave. But what is more constructive and helpful for everyone, including the people who you are here to support and honestly, probably for you, and your own business as well, is listening to understand listening to the person who's creating whatever it is that they're creating, to try to understand what they're getting at. and filling in where there is missing nuance or context. So you can piggyback on other people's conversations and engage with them directly by adding nuance and context that makes the review more complete, or that makes the work more applicable or helpful to the people that you want to support. Right. So this can look something like I'm hearing what you're saying here. And that makes sense for X, Y, and Z people or that makes sense in this situation. But I think that the part of the part that's missing here is this right? Adding nuance and context can allow us to have much more productive conversations in the the area that we want to improve. Now, I'm not saying you owe this to like everybody, if you don't want to do this, that's totally fine. But what I am saying is, if you start paying attention to where there is missing nuance and context, if you start listening to people to try to understand them, and you use that as the jumping off point to improve things, you're actually going to, I think, create much deeper work. Because it is no longer just surface level. This is this is not right, you're actually giving people some deeper context and deeper content, to make the thing that has already been created maybe a bit more useful, or a bit more applicable, or to give people a reason why that piece of information might not be for them, because that's helpful as well. The fourth thing is focus on how you can do better and share how what you're doing is different. If you're not a fan of how things are being done in your industry, the best thing that you can do is to focus on how you can do better. Think about how it can be done differently. Think about what you don't like, think about what isn't working for people think about what isn't supportive, and think about how you can do it differently. First of all, as business as a business owner, the best way to build a sustainable Foundation is to build something of value, right? You've got to create something that is valuable for people for them to feel like they want to pay you for it. Of course, there are situations where you're doing work that is so great for your community that people just want to support you and they're making donations, and they're buying you coffee, and they're subscribed to your Patreon. And that is fantastic. Right? That's, that's amazing. And I love that. But a sustainable foundation for a business is going to be built on you creating something of value, the best way that you can create something of value is to look at what is not being done well and make improvements to it. If you are seeing that your industry is missing the mark, get curious about how you can better serve your community or do things differently to fill that gap. And guess what, it's going to be a lot harder than just being angry, I promise you it is it's going to be a lot harder, you're going to be presented with a bunch of issues that you're going to have to do a lot of work to try to figure out there's going to be a lot of trial and error, there's going to be a lot of experimentation. This is exactly why I am constantly talking about trial and error and experimentation and like harnessing your creative energy and looking at where you are leaking creative energy because it is going to take some creativity to create something better. But if you can do that, and then demonstrate how you've done it, you are going to have some great marketing on your hands. And you're also going to have a great product or service that people are going to want from you and that is going to speak for itself. If you're wondering yes, but as Socrates, that is my dog clicking around here, if you were just hearing toenails, he just left he came to visit. But the other thing too is that you're going to have so much more of an impact on your community and honestly, even on your industry. Because if you can actually look at the place where your industry is missing the mark and you can figure out a way to do it better to better serve your community and you break all All of the rules of how people in your industry are doing things. First of all, your community is going to be so well served by that, but also, probably other people in your industry are going to take note. And that can change things that can change things. It takes a level of creative energy, it takes a level of dedication, it takes a level of trial and error. But this is how we create something better. And this brings me to my fifth point and final point, which is to actually offer solutions, right? Being against everything is safe, and cozy, and warm. And it feels so nice, because you have everybody else who's also against those things around you agreeing with you. But what are you for? If the options and the status quo that is being perpetuated and presented to your community are not for them and are not working? What alternatives do you have to offer? What can people do? Because constant complaining can actually be disempowering, and can become really overwhelming and discouraging. Not all the time. And maybe your community is loving it? I don't know, right? But, but I will tell you, at least for the industry that I'm in, if I just tell you all of the things that don't work, and all of the advice that is garbage, but I don't give you any alternative ways to move forward. Is that empowering for you? Is that encouraging for you? Is that valuable for you? Or is that just pulling you down? You know, I don't know. But I feel like for me, it's my if this is going to be what I'm going to do with my time, and I'm going to ask you to make an investment in either your time or your money to into my work, then I need to have something to offer you, right. And guess what? It is scary. Because when you create, you are opening yourself up to potential criticism, right. But if we are actually going to change things, this is something that we need to be willing to endure, it's not going to be perfect, right, there's always going to be something that might not be perfect. And there's always going to be somebody who's going to want to point that out. And you know what, I'm at a point in my own life where I'm like, that's fine. If it makes you feel better, to point out where my work is not perfect, but you're not creating anything of your own. So be it, you know, at least I know that I'm putting my energy into creating something to help people and those conversations, some of them can help me do better, right. And so sometimes there's a place for that criticism. Other times, I'm like, Okay, you're just being like an ass. And I've gotten pretty good at shrugging it off. But yeah, it's true that like, you are gonna open yourself up to criticism. And I will tell you, if you have been hanging out in the spaces where it is just constant tearing down, it's going to be extra scary for you to create, because you have been seeing what happens to people who create. And so it might be that the first step is to just step away from those circles, and surround yourself with some people who are actually being collaborative and supportive in their communities. Now,

Brooke Monaghan

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the final thing that I want to leave you with is something that I have really had to get very real with myself about lately. I am sharing it with you, because I don't know, I think that you're you're similar to me and that you want to challenge some things. I think it's time that we take a look around and get real with ourselves about whether or not we're actually being disruptive. If the thing that you're saying is being just wholly like accepted by every single person who sees it, chances are the thing that you're doing is not actually that disruptive. It's not actually challenging the status quo. If you're actually challenging the status quo, people are going to be pissed off at you. Not everyone, but definitely some people, you're going to piss people off. And one of the biggest realizations that I had over the past few months. I mean, I've been thinking about this for like the past year, but really over the past few months, I had this like wake up where I realized, Oh, I'm now in a space where I am completely surrounded by people who were all saying the same thing. And we're all claiming to be challenging the status quo. But the message that we're sharing is very similar and also I know that many of us are holding back and what we really want to say because We're afraid of being misunderstood, or we are afraid of opening ourselves up to criticism and a Realized shit. That means that there's a status quo that I was once very actively trying to speak out against. And now I found myself in a place where there's a different set of rules that need to be broken. And as I start opening this door and start talking about this side of things, I run the risk of pissing people off, right? Of course I do. And it is always tempting to just say the thing that everybody else is saying and just Agree, Agree, Agree. And don't say the things that are coming up for you that are really true for you and you know, need to be spoken and you know, are true for other people too, but to not say it because you're scared, it's really tempting to just join the side of the angry people who are tearing everything down. And by the way, I'm not saying don't be angry, be fucking angry, we all get to be angry. But what I am saying is like, if you're just joining that side of things, to constantly be criticizing everything, because it makes you feel safe, and it makes you feel like you're signaling that you're one of the good ones. You're not in a position where you're actually creating something different. And I don't know how disruptive it really is, this is what I'm grappling with right now. I don't know, I don't know. Now, you need to be willing to say things that some people don't like, right. And if they want to subtweet you, then so be it, they just might do that. And that's the other piece of this. If you really want to do things differently, and challenge the way that things are being done. You need to get comfortable with the idea that some people are going to disagree with you, some people are going to have criticisms of what you're doing. And that's okay. Because if we actually are listening to each other and providing more nuance and context and having the conversation, then we can all collectively get better at what we do. And, you know, other times, people are just being haters, and you just take it as a sign that I guess you really are speaking up and disrupting ship because you piss people off and you just dismiss what they said. All right, everybody. I'm closing us out. I hope that you enjoyed this conversation. If you have things that you want to share about this, I would love to hear them send me an email, or you can follow me over on Instagram send me a DM I am back on there. I can't wait to hear from you. And we have a great lineup of solo episodes coming so if that is what you're into, then stay tuned. Transcend your dichotomy is a production of passion and process collaborative LLC. The show is produced by me Brooke Monaghan with production and marketing support from Julia pink crunch. Rajani creates blog posts from some of our episodes, which you can find on the episode page at Brooke dash monaghan.com/podcast along with the transcript of today's episode, and any other resources I shared today, if you're ready to put this work into action, head to book dash monaghan.com To learn more about transcend your dichotomy training camp and coaching with me. Love to see you next week.

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