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Rammy

Joshua Davies13min

Speaker 1

00:01

Okay, guys, so I think today we come together, and we need to set up a new project team, and also to propose the best project head for this team. So I think we have three candidates that are final. One is Susan and one is Christine and one is Nancy. So yeah, so feel free to provide your comments.

Unknown Speaker

00:39

Should we go through by one by one? Start with Susan?

Speaker 2

00:42

No, no, I first. I think I will prefer Kristen, because there's a she is doing the senior finance analysis at our competitor company. And to be honest, as a sales I will prefer that the project team is more like it's detail, or that I will prefer someone that to memorize every figures and to go into the details and is presentable so and that's my, that's my, my basic requirement that As every time I ask about the record, she can tell me exactly what they do something like

Speaker 3

01:31

that. I think Christine is a strong candidate, although I have some reservations as to whether she she coming from a competitor company, would be able to manage and understand the dynamics between the various teams. What are your views on that anyone

Speaker 2

01:58

and I think Christine is also a very excellent public speaker. So as a project team, I think it's quite important to make sure that everyone is easy to understand and to get what they what is the role and responsibility and what to do and what is the step. And to be honest, he is quite detail oriented. So that's also meet my requirement, at least, that I believe that she can tell me everything about the historic record, the pricing or the everything that really because for the sales team, we need to everything is on time, information to do the sales and how we strategize ourselves approach.

Speaker 4

02:44

I think we can agree that Christine is probably a strong candidate. I think the first thing we should ask ourselves, though, is she's the only external candidate, and for this type of project, I think that we need someone with a total organizational perspective. So I think as a group, can we first align on whether or not we think that an internal or external candidate would be more suitable for this type of position, all else equal?

Speaker 5

03:16

Yeah, so I actually, I don't have a question, because all three candidates sounds good profit to me. But my question to you is that, do we also check the do also have the background check of all three candidates? Because we obviously, um, when we choose a candidate, we want to make sure that does not really any negative impact to the to the company. So this is one thing that I wanted the team to consider. I'm not sure whether HR, you have done any background check on the software candidates.

Speaker 3

04:00

All I can say is Christine has run the regular checks. And Christine and the fact that she's put forward as a candidate, she's passed all these these testes. So I don't think you have to worry about that. I think it's more about comparing the suitability of these three candidates for this role.

Speaker 4

04:25

Should we quickly, maybe just run through each there's only three candidates, and just quickly run through what we think are the strengths and the weaknesses of each one, so that I think we're at least we're all on the same page, because, at least from my information, they on paper, there's, I don't see a huge kind of distinction between between each one child. I would be interested to hear. You know, from your perspective, who's strong in which areas right

Speaker 1

04:58

do. So also, then I think internally some some people say she like, yeah, she has got some good reviews as chair of the company dispute resolution committee. But, and also, she is good at attention to detail, but she is not a very inspiring leader. Yeah, that's what I heard.

Speaker 2

05:24

And I heard that the staff will complain that shoot can be very moody. Is that good thing as the portrait team,

Speaker 4

05:35

right? I got that too, but I also got the same comment about Christine. So to me, that's a pretty neutral comment, given it affects most of the candidates.

Speaker 5

05:49

Yeah, I think it's actually also fair to validate whether this is a true or not, because So, yeah, I also heard there's some voices about Suzanne and Christine. So they are, they can be moody. But my, my view is that, can we want to take this? Is this is true or not, or I think there's something we need to be aware of it.

Speaker 1

06:20

But Suzanne has been with our company. She is working with us, so probably the comment or feedback on Suzanne would be more accurate. Yeah, right.

Unknown Speaker

06:34

And then how about Nancy?

Unknown Speaker

06:42

Nancy from the feedback I've got from some teams, can't say which

Speaker 3

06:50

she has a tendency to not remember, to recognize the contributions of others when projects are complete. So I am a little worried that this might impact on her leading the project team.

Speaker 4

07:05

Right? I got similar feedback as well. So to me, out of the three candidates, I think Nancy looks to be the weakest to be a project head. So anyway, I would, I would suggest to choose between Suzanne and Christine.

Speaker 2

07:24

So it's more from internal ones from external?

Speaker 4

07:28

Yeah, exactly, because on paper, it looks like Suzanne and Christine's qualifications and weaknesses and strengths are quite similar, so the differentiating factor seems to be internal versus external. And again, my personal view is that internal seem to make more sense, right? Because you want to promote from within kind of show, show that we have that kind of culture within the organization. And again, like as a project head, you you want that person to have a total organizational perspective. It's very hard for someone external to come in and have that right away. So anyway, that's, that's my two cents.

Speaker 2

08:14

But on the other I'm just also thinking about, like, if we hide from external that was, some always have this different kind of thinking process and aspects. So bring some new strategy, because if we working for at the same organization for a long time, that maybe they just follow it the same direction, and now we want to prove the sales as a sales team, we we have to make sure that we meet the target. We meet the KPI. So I'll thinking about like, why we was we are not success in the past, and whether we have something we have should do something new to have a different kind of ideas, from outsider to see whether we can have another chance to to grow the company. So that's also, from my perspective, we we also need to take into account of this kind of better before we really consider that with internal and external.

Speaker 4

09:07

I think the other thing you want to be careful of, though, is that Suzanne and Christine are both senior finance analysts. So same same role, same title, if you bring someone external to suddenly be the head of a new project team. Are we worried about the type of message it sends to our internal employees

Speaker 1

09:28

as well? But probably Christine is more experienced from the paper because she was, I don't know she hasn't one is MBA in finance 15 years ago, and one is the MBA, so it's different.

Speaker 5

09:45

Yeah, this is also I'm thinking of So prove that track off, because often, from what I get them, I don't really have the information for Suzanne, and it's just something that we can further. Actor for Susana. So what kind of task or project she completed, or she was assisting income in a completion.

Speaker 3

10:15

I see the sales team had had a very strong view at the beginning supporting Christine. Is there anything else that, any other information that had led you to sway a bit more towards Christine as the right candidate?

Speaker 2

10:39

As I mentioned before, it's like for Kristen is, Christine is an excellent public speaker. So I think it's like with I would believe that this would be more extrovert, and leading a portrait team is sometimes will also need to have a more complicated with others. And while my personal thing is like, because he's from outsider, may have a different kind of view to take to or factor or consideration that something we may miss out in the past. So may have the new fasci to take a look on what kind of the factor we have to consider in order to grow the business and prove themselves, so that we meet the KPI for Suzanne. I didn't mean that Susan is not good, but just that, if we have chance to find something, and also both are moody, but, but I think that Christine is like some but Suzanne is staff. Is it mean that is the norm that the staff is company is moody, or like, we have the new staff coming, and then at least she will not be that moody at the very beginning.

Speaker 5

11:49

Yeah, so, and this is, I would suggest, HR, if you can do more reference check, because internally, of course, you have very much more detailed records for the external candidate, Christine, probably the you can make. You can take a further reference check on her personality, character, etc.

Speaker 3

12:09

Okay, so is it fair to say that subject to these references being checked everything being Okay, our first priority would be Christine.

Unknown Speaker

12:22

Okay? View against that,

Speaker 1

12:27

but I okay, but I think the purpose of today is we recommend the best project head from these three. So yes, so maybe for HR. How long does it take for the reference check so we can come up with the recommendation soon.

Speaker 3

12:43

I think we've done we've covered most of it. I think we might resort to some informal checks, references from personal contacts to make sure we get there's nothing, there's nothing wrong with her.

Speaker 1

13:01

But do we, like, have a vote of hands, like, which candidate, like everyone prefer at this moment,

Unknown Speaker

13:09

it sounds like the consensus is

Speaker 5

13:12

okay, that's good, yeah? So we, we give our a conditional recommendation. Yeah?

Speaker 3

13:23

Let us do our work. Then I'll come back to you if there's anything very alarming about her. Otherwise, I think, like Anza said, the consensus is we go and we'd go with Christine

Speaker 5

13:37

and then Suzanne has a backup. Time is up, and just in case, two of them does not accept, finally, will be considered the third

Unknown Speaker

13:51

I'm not responsible for, when you started, that's 15 minutes have passed. All right?

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