Tore_Gavin_4-26-21
DDavid JonesMay 10, 2021 at 2:18 pm2h 15min
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00:00Tore
Yeah, then I'm late to the party.
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00:02Gavin
What happened?
Unknown Speaker
Um, I was napping. Oh,
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00:07Tore
and then I had my phone on silent. And then I look. And I'm like, Oh, I have another hour. And I'm like, yeah, that was an hour ago. No, because I was napping and put it on silent and then didn't check.
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didn't check.
Unknown Speaker
Once.
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00:27Tore
I'm like, I'm like, super hot. No, I'm, I'm not I wasn't sleeping. I thought that I had more time.
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00:40Tore
Okay, then I'm really excited to talk.
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00:46Gavin
Well, here's the thing. I really want to flesh this, cuz I'm looking at all the like, I guess it's totally okay to talk UFOs. And I've been digging around through mild stuff, because mind you this stuff. And Ma and me. Were talking over 20 years ago. So I have to jar my memory. And when I go through some of the boxes in my storage, down, you know, by the studio, started looking at stuff and all kinds of things start coming to mind. So basically, what happened was yesterday, someone who mutually follows us on on social media, put out a video
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that had
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01:43Speaker 1
john Trump in it. And I look at this video, I'm like, why does that look so familiar? I started playing it. And all of a sudden, I realized the interview were is Stan dayo someone who's been around the alternative technology, flying saucer genre forever. I'm someone who I used to communicate with back in the 90s regarding this stuff, so all of a sudden, some memories came rushing in. And I realized some things I had forgotten. So that's essentially what motivated me to do this discussion with you because you're all into Tesla and all that stuff. And so what I wanted to do was essentially lay out the just lay out a, a model, if you will, of a UFO propulsion system. Now, what's funny is, if you look at the title of this, it says manmade flying saucer propulsion mechanics, and that's only because it didn't allow me to put an S there. So I'm not a UFO mechanic. I'm just talking about UFO mechanics. So it's kind of one of those funny little things. So I just wanted to clarify that.
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03:12Tore
We're going to talk the science behind the propulsion engines.
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03:18Speaker 1
Right and the reason why I want to discuss this is what may be an unpopular view, but it's the view I hold because I grew up in aviation. To me, flying disc technology and extraterrestrial contact are mutually exclusive. fact if you really look at the the data carefully, you'll see there really doesn't actually seem to be an overlap between flying disc tack and experiences people have that they describe as abduction. fact, you don't need one to have the other find that quite quite stunning that the two are so conveniently mixed. The other thing is you don't need grey aliens have flying discs either. First, most of the first contacts were with so called blond haired, blue eyed arion looking people and given that a lot of this tech was coming out of Germany during World War Two, what a shocker, right. So that's essentially it. So how do you want to begin Should we listen to a couple things first, wait till we get a bigger crowd before we go headfirst into this or what do you think?
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04:36Tore
Yeah, yeah, whichever.
Unknown Speaker
Okay,
T
04:38Tore
I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm so excited because you're talking about someone that I, you know, known about and you're talking about signs that, you know, these manmade flying saucers or unidentified objects are real. So
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04:59Speaker 1
we're not Real, if they're gonna look, here's where I really kind of got triggered is when I see that Tic Tac thing or whatever it is, where they're like, Oh, look, you know, Pentagon, you know, acknowledge and look at us like that's a straight up 1950s flying saucer like, Are you freaking kidding me? And the frustrating thing about it is, does anyone notice how odd it is that these more recent UFO, UFO, UAP, or whatever, we're gonna call these things? So around the military, it's like, How convenient. And we're never shown anything. If you really think about it, nothing they show us is outside the scope of human possibility, which I just find quite stunning that so it's like, what are they gonna start? You know, we've had the discussion on them faking this stuff?
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05:52Tore
Right. And and, and, you know, it's really weird. We're going to Mars. We've got space wars and all this crap, but we can't find a submarine in the Pacific that went missing.
Unknown Speaker
Right?
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06:05Tore
I'm just saying like, think about it. Think about it. The submarine just went missing. Again. It's friggin you know, the Far East area, and you're just like one of them. Malaysia keeps missing planes. Now these guys keep missing submarine. Right? It's just really? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's just really bizarre. We're going to the, to the stars and Mars and everywhere, but we can't find a submarine that went missing. Right on Earth, underwater. Right. So it's kind of it's so bizarre, you know, the way they convince people that what, you know, they say is true. Oh, we acknowledge these. And it's like, Oh, so you acknowledge your own shit. Thanks. Great. Thanks for doing that. Much. Yeah. Thanks for doing that. Now, what? 30 years later? 50 years later. You're so kind.
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07:05Speaker 1
So, yeah, I mean, this. Okay, so let's get let's have let's hear some of these first. We'll go forward. Mm hmm.
Unknown Speaker
Hey, folks, good to see you. Both Gavin and Tori. Ready for interesting show tonight. Thank you both for all you do. And it is a beautiful man out there tonight. Thanks, love y'all both.
Unknown Speaker
Cool. Thanks. Here's a good one. This, we can use this to kick some stuff off. Time for that tr three beat.
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07:40Speaker 1
Pretty much I've seen one of those. I've got actually seen a couple of them. I can literally, like, just call up some old friends from California right now and just say, Hey, remember that things? What it look like? You know what I mean? Because the thing is, okay, for instance, without revealing because the problem is if I say who would my family? Someone could your anons could find this. And then it's, you know, what do we do and I just, you know, put a family member on blast, you know what I'm saying? So, one of my family members in aviation. When we live down in San Diego area, with basically wire learjets with I don't know what you want to call it remote control technology. It wasn't. It was basically remote control Lear jets, and they'd fly him out at corner on island for testing, missiles and all kinds of stuff. So that family member knew quite a bit of stuff out of cornado, same family member ended up at Norton Air Force Base. Quite a few other things I talked about in previous talk. So I always knew where the bases were, that had the good stuff. And not only that, but I also knew what time of day to go see these things because unfortunately, there's a thing called the earth shadow. But there's also on the other side of the or shadow, where the sun is hitting stuff. So in the Aurora time period, when the sun goes down, or when the sun comes up. Problem is is super high aircraft, super high altitude aircraft or satellites or things like this. Even though it's nighttime to us, they're high enough that they're still in the sun in sunlight. So there's these sweet spots in the evening and in the morning. When you can see these things lit up real good. So you know, go out with some telescopes and know what you're doing. You can see something so I used to take friends go see that thing called the Aurora. We watch that thing fly from Kinda cornado area San Diego area on its way up towards Las Vegas. So you could have just assumed that that was going to like groom lake or area 51, which is where they developed the SSR 71 and u two spy plane and stuff. And having aerial maps, you'd be really easy to trace this stuff out. So that's kind of, you know, what we do for a kid. And so in that time period, definitely solved tr three B's saw one is as recent as I think 2008 2009 So anyway, let's try another question.
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10:38Tore
Nice one. Hey, torian Gavin's so awesome to be here with y'all tonight. I'm super excited to hear about this topic. I know. It's just getting started. But I just wanted to say, Tori, I love you, girl. You are seriously the only one that keeps me sane. And this land of confusion. Gavin,
Unknown Speaker
you're cool. Day two.
T
11:05Tore
Y'all have a great night.
Unknown Speaker
Well, thank you very much for joining us.
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11:11Tore
This is gonna be this is gonna be fun. Because, you know, I know, you know, this stuff in detail. And this helps start conversations that we are inevitably inevitably going to start having in June.
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11:26Speaker 1
Yeah, and that's why it's like, I would rather just be like, Alright, fuck it. Let's pull out old. You know, let's just pull this stuff out from the 90s. Because that's the center. You know, the, what's the saying that when they roll things out, it's 20 to 30 years old. Right? So let's just go ahead and do that I need to go digging around in my my box and see if I have any of those composite materials that my grandpa gave me. Specifically, was it the f? f 17? You see which one it was? No, not tF 17 was a stealth fighter. What was that f 19? f? What
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was it?
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12:12Speaker 1
Yeah, the F 19. So it was was an x would be the x 19? What would it not x? What would it have been? I don't remember the terminology. Anyway, when when the F 19 was an experimental aircraft. My grandpa gave me a piece of it. It's probably like super illegal. But whatever. I was, like, We're going on 30 years ago, he gave it to me when I was a kid to use in science experiments, you know, hit it with with he put it in a vise, whack it with a hammer and stuff to show that these composite nanotubes of carbon fiber are actually the most resilient material at that time. And his whole point of showing it to me was to say yeah, there's flying. No, there's UFOs but unfortunately, they're not from other planets or from here's, and here's kind of the, when I would talk with a lot of these guys, some of them were not you know, when I was younger, some of them are super old, project paperclip. Dudes, the guys that came over from from Germany to work on the, the the Manhattan Project and all the other projects with Wernher von Braun and stuff. And the joke was is that the reason why they call these alien aircraft is because they were resident aliens is in they had been moved over here from another country.
Unknown Speaker
So the joke was the call it alien technology. All right, like, okay.
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13:54Tore
It's really a you know, that coupled with the fact that Hitler was obsessed with blond hair, blue eyed races, ride sharing that was one of the first races you know, is quite interesting that his own people were the ones that helped create these alien flying aircraft.
Unknown Speaker
Like literally like illegal alien aircraft.
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14:24Tore
Refugees, actually, right. They were refugees, refugee aliens.
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14:29Speaker 1
Yep. We've ran out of we've ran out of firewood. So we're wondering for come show off these toys and maybe get some immunity.
T
14:38Tore
Yeah. And we'll give you that and a couple of other things.
Unknown Speaker
Right. Yeah. Just Just don't Nuremberg us. Right. Yeah.
T
14:47Tore
Nuremberg, these people that you know, the really bad people. Were kind of bad. Not that bad.
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14:54Speaker 1
Oh my god. Oh my god. And that brings me to not But not the actual Nazi scientists, but his his son and his grandson. And this so the Nazi scientist, his name was Victor shell burner. Anybody looks this guy up. He's called the water wizard. What it was is he his family were managed forests in Austria and ultimately we found were very strange particular patterns in the movement of water, he exploited those to the point where he ended up coming up with a very interesting machine, because he noticed that temperature and mineral content could actually make water flow with either more or less resistance. So, and this was something that I was introduced to. So I put out on Twitter on September 2020, an email between a guy named Callum coats who was the liaison for the shell, burger family, and myself, and this is essentially the email from May 19 1999 says, Dear go, thank you. Thank you for your email of the 14th. While I've read it through, think perhaps I would understand it more completely. were we able to talk have just finished typing out your facts, Okay, listen to this, have just finished typing out your faxed information on your theories, and there do seem to be some interesting correlation between Walter Schauberger, which would be Viktor Schauberger, son is math and yours, etc, et cetera. So the thing that's kind of stunning here is that the liaison to the family who's who's who essentially a father was attributed to inventing the UFO motor in 1999 transcribes my mathematics and that was the first anyone to actually see all my stuff incomplete. So kind of interesting there. Of course bonding with with Walters son, but I didn't speak you know, their language. They didn't speak English. So we go back and forth between Calvin coats and it was a very daunting task. Well, that led into me, me meeting two other individuals stand eo and, and Lieutenant Colonel TOM BEARDEN, as well as Stanton Friedman. Now, what's interesting is in my conversations with Stan Friedman, he didn't think my what he called exotic maps were necessary for UFO propulsion. He thought at the time that the current physics equations were sufficient to describe UFO flying disc propulsion. So I didn't get much traction with him. However, TOM BEARDEN had a lot of good discussions with him regarding zero point energy and what he called overunity. He was working on a lot of what he called overunity machines, and the idea was trying to create a machine using magnets and, and whatever, you could come up with electrical current stuff to see if you could tap into zero point energy and essentially harness that as a power supply. Then there was Stan daioh. Now the conversations with him, were the more interesting ones. And I remember him bringing john Trump and at the time, it was just one of those things. Okay, you know, imagine being invited to go out to Los Alamos research facility to work on to help refurbish old flying disc tech from Nazi Germany with a bunch of old paperclip, guys.
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19:23Tore
Okay, all right.
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19:25Speaker 1
And it just was kind of one of those things. I don't know how to describe it. I asked. I asked millia say, what would you do? And she said, I would have done it. I was thinking, I'm trying to remember what my hesitation was, other than the fact that I don't know, working with a bunch of Nazi scientists just kind of doesn't sound How about legal
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19:49Tore
coaches? The government was working with them anyway. So right. Yeah, it just right.
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19:56Speaker 1
And I had remembered um, if I would have gone on that path, the risk I ran was my mathematics being caught up in classifications whereby I wouldn't be able to talk about it. And so I had to make a choice. Do I want to work in labs where I basically toy around with my mathematics and other things and have to go into a classified setting? Or do I want to not get involved in having classifications and I, I opted out. A lot of people think, what are you crazy? And it's just, I don't know, I didn't want to do it.
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20:36Tore
And it's not crazy. It's, you know, seeing a little bit ahead of what, you know, being a little bit more farsighted?
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20:44Speaker 1
Well, and in all honesty, let me back it up a little bit. I don't know if I've mentioned it to your audience. I don't even know if I've mentioned this publicly, I probably have. And, again, we're going on like now this is almost 30 years ago. So I think it's relatively safe to discuss. And that is I knew people in Southern California who were involved in drug dealing for the local sheriff, the DEA and ultimately, one of the particular organized crime groups and the CIA. And when I went to Embry riddle, came back, I was offered a job flying drugs for the CIA, I kid you not? I turned that down. Okay, cuz that was like, no, not gonna do that. That was like, super sketch. So part of the reason why I left San Diego and went to UC Davis is I wanted to get significant distance between myself and that group of people. Essentially, what it was, is when I was young, I like to smoke marijuana, and do that type of activity. And so these were the people I met at school and just, you know, one thing leads to another. And in hindsight, really what it was is the area I lived on the border of Riverside County in San Diego County, was a major military industrial complex, cartel, whatever you want to call it hub. And I think I've shared with some of your audience, a runway that was in the neighborhood that I grew up that where you have a skull and crossbones at the end of the runway, and that really does apply to people that understand the overlap between organized crime, the intelligence community and trafficking. And well
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22:38Tore
I mean, golden remember, Barry Thiel was thrown under the bus and you know, ultimately died as a drug runner when he was flying for the agency. And you know, back in Mena Mena Arkansas they nailed him for it when all he did was his job he was assigned to fly Bush and Clinton drugs back and forth with to Noriega like it's and if there wasn't a bitch, where's my money aspect of it? where, you know, Bush Senior sent out bill Barr, right, the former a jean, go sit down and have you know, drinks with Noriega in Central America to be like, yo, where's our money? Right, Barry seal wouldn't have been annihilated. Like they, they crucified him with that, as he owned it. When he was actually flying in for the agency. It was an American funded drug, right. So
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23:34Speaker 1
so so check this so throughout my childhood, again, grew up with aviation, right? Um, wherever we live, there would be very interesting peculiarities like, Oh, I don't know. Neighbor would have Manuel Noriega over for parties. Or the other one who was the guy more in the 90s Come on, what was his name? The one that was in the movie below. l r. Come on.
Unknown Speaker
Hold on one second.
Unknown Speaker
You're not going without trouble. Or you know how No, no, not even bring that up.
Unknown Speaker
Come on, what was his name?
Unknown Speaker
Dang it.
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24:25Speaker 1
They'll come to me. Anyway, so there was always like this really weird thing in the background. Okay. Like, why is there always is aerospace, organized crime overlap with aviation, and I think pretty much everyone can put two and two together there. So one day one of my family members, knowing some of the people I was hanging around with and, and some of the partying I was doing, really was like, you know, you really shouldn't be doing that because when you buy weed and things like that you're actually funding covert operations in Central America and Middle East. And there's a lot of dead people. In order for you to have that. Do you know what I'm saying? So it's kind of a really weird thing. And so he was like, so I couldn't it had to have been it was the same summer I took off to go get my pilot's license. And he said, you know, come up to Norton Air Force Base, I want to show you some. So I went up to his hangar went through all the checkpoints and everything, go into his hangar and what's in there, Pink Floyd, practicing laser light and acoustic. So basically audio visual technology. With full on intelligence offer, it is contractors. You know, there's frickin David Gilmore and Richard Wright, and I'm like, What the fuck. And it was just crazy, because I used to like listen to Pink Floyd and smoking and doing all that kind of thing. And this was really heavy, because then when I went to the actual Pink Floyd concert, and saw the same thing, I could see the same contractors, the same people. And you could literally see that what it was was a giant psychedelic drug experiment, where they're using laser lights and sound to see its impact on people. So that was like front row seats. MK Ultra, and it was really kind of sketchy. So my family member says to me, you know, you just don't want to go down that road. You see, I'm saying so that's why so now we can move forward. When I'm in UC Davis. And I'm trying to get just kind of some people to communicate with about my mathematics and stuff. For that to lead into a you want to go to Los Altos Los Alamos research facility, and try to you know, refurbish some old Nazi flying discs, it just seemed like it was that same dark aerospace cartel syndicate. Does that make sense? Yeah, no, they,
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27:23Tore
they're the ones that run everything, from celebrities, to our technologies to what is available. I mean, everything is controlled, every single bit of information including access to more advanced technologies. I mean, what we have right now as a people is at least 50 years behind to what we really have that's why I say when they can't find a submarine on planet Earth, but supposedly can go to Mars and the stars and all this shit I'm like, Yeah, okay, that doesn't sound right. It's like people saying, Oh, we don't have the technology to go to the moon anymore. So I agree.
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28:09Speaker 1
So that so that just you know, so Okay, so I think we kind of covered that a bit so now let's kind of get into the weeds here already
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28:19Tore
Yeah, I'm ready
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28:22Speaker 1
so what I was given were blueprints the victor shall burgers, turbine for electricity using water. And it's actually now I don't know if this thing ever worked or not. Okay, I'm just looking at blueprints. And blueprints are one thing you know, it's one thing to have a great theory or an idea on paper, it's another thing to actually put it to the test. But anyway, that being said, Here was the idea. The idea was to have like an egg shaped container with you know, vertically pointed up with it. So, you got an axis and you can anyone can type this in Victor shallenberger turbine for electricity. And you can see this thing. So the idea is, you have water with particular mineral, you know, ideal mineral salts, or whatever it is. So you can have kind of a catalystic properties within the water. Then once you have is so you have an axis, vertical axis running down. And the axis is connected to a hub, like a wheel hub with spokes and the spokes are shaped like an like kinda like they're spirally. But he modeled them, strangely enough after, I think was oxen horn, because he found that horns would have these natural spiraling shapes, that water would also move freely. He found that there's sort of a geometry that of water spiraling, like for instance, when you would go watch water run out of sync and if you Look at it actually has a curl that has a twist, it's spinning. So water doesn't just flow straight, it actually has a curl to it. One of the things that shell burger made was like a water hose that had, you know, an inner lining of spiraling plastic, if you will. And what they found is based on the different angle, you could actually have water go through a hose quicker if you allow it to spiral. Okay, so, so the idea is okay, so we're gonna have water in this thing, when a spin this hub, water is going to circulate up, go into the middle of the hub, and then spray out through these spiraling tubes, where the diameter gets smaller and smaller and smaller. Now, what he found was that he can actually cool water by with a catalystic effect between dissolve solids within the water. And the like a copper lining to the inside of the tubes. So the water would cool. So the idea is, if we spin this thing fast enough, the water's going through these tubes quick enough, it will freeze. Well, here's genius. What does water do when it freezes? It expands. So the idea was, was to hook up the axis to a motor, spin it so that it's spinning faster, faster, faster. And then right before the water freezes. Put resistance on to the axis of rotation. Just write that you actually capture the expansion force of the water. And it starts to turn it on its own.
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31:52Tore
Nice, you understand, actually quite simplified, right, like yanking the expansion energy.
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32:00Speaker 1
So what it was is the shell burgers we're having a difficult time recreating. They're the one guy's father and the other in the guys speaking with his grandfather's invention, and so they were interested in my mathematics to see if they could help. So this is where TOM BEARDEN comes in with his overunity idea. Now the problem is, and I hate to sound like a naysayer or be an asshole. But I think there was not TOM BEARDEN himself. But I think there was a lot of other people that were engaging in fraud, where they were claiming to have created perpetual motion machines, what this that neither. And really what it was, is just and this is really popular, like around 2007 2008 2009, go back on YouTube and see these guys will have like, these magnetic wheels, and they'll spin them to a point and then the like, Look, it's spinning itself. But the problem was, even though you could get a magnetic motor, if you will to spin on its own, you're not actually generating any usable electricity. It's essentially just
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33:13Tore
spinning. That's it.
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33:14Speaker 1
It's, you know what I'm saying? So it's actually not a motor. Yeah, not creating energy. And if you actually sat down and did the, you know, a lot of real physicists would look at this stuff, because obviously physics physicists are going to be interested, they'd find that no, this is just a misrepresentation, yada, yada. So the overunity free energy, perpetual motion machines weren't really producing anything. And no one has ever really tapped the zero point as a source of energy. And I, if I'm certain I would, I believe most physicists would argue you actually can't use the zero point energy as an as a power source. So let's move on from that. Okay, so, so here's the thing. What I ended up doing was realizing Actually, no, you know what, they're, we're surrounded by perpetual motion machines. They're called atoms. Because, you know, if you, if you take the Bohr model of the atom for a moment, it's sort of like a mini Solar System idea where you have electrons orbiting around the nucleus in that's, you know, moving indefinitely, so Okay, and, and some could argue that the zero point energy is powering the atom. Well, that well, the Bohr model doesn't work. And then with if we go with essentially the standard, the standard model of the atom you have distinct energy levels. This is where quantum mechanics comes in. A lot of people don't know that the whole point of the meaning of quantum requires Quantum in quantum mechanics is that energy comes in distinct packets. So there isn't actually a continuum of energy levels from the center of an atom outward, it's actually distinct what are called electron shells. So can either have this energy, this energy or this energy. And that's what a quantum leap is, is that the electron jumping into higher? Yeah. So that so that's the quantum atom. So yeah, the energy cycle
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35:30Tore
to jump to the next orbit.
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35:34Speaker 1
Yeah, so what I wanted to do was see if I could make a model of the atom based off of the things I was learning at the time about how flying discs supposedly worked. And kind of toy with Victor shall burgers is turbine for electricity with the water engine, and see if I could come up with something. Right? So after See, this would be about about 2001 2002. I finally did it. And so here's the idea. Now this is, this is where you can go watch my existing videos, and I lay this stuff out in a very, like, you know, as a as, you know, graduate level as I can get. So I apologize for that. But here's the here's the basic idea. What my assumption is, is that atoms are not actual stable structures, even hydrogen, not a stable structure, it's actually a standing wave of unstable things happening, that it's sort of like when you're in a stadium, and people do the wave, and it's like, there's a wave going around the circle. But what's actually happening is, people are standing up raising their hand in a rhythm. So once person stick their hands up, pulls their hands down, they're done. So the idea is that each section of the atom only exists temporarily. And then it goes back into a vacuum state. So basically, an atom hydrogen atom is a static standing wave of quantum fluctuations, but a very particular kind. So here's the idea. The idea is that a, there's a thing called let's see, how do I do this? Should I do that first or, okay? There's a thing called beta decay. And what beta decay is when a neutron breaks down into a proton, and electron and a an anti neutrino. Okay? What's interesting is that you think about it in in in the nucleus of an atom, you've got neutrons, protons, right. So if neutrons break down into protons, electrons, if I could reverse that, reverse that again, and reverse it, and put those forward and reverse in oscillation around the unit circle. Here's what I could have. I could have a neutron decay into a proton and an electron, the electron comes around, and then it's called electron capture the electrons and the proton, come back together and make the neutrons. So this is the sort of the how you get, you know, lead up to the idea. So imagine a neutron disintegrating, and let's ignore the neutron the neutrino for a moment, because it just it's one extra part to mention, but it's, it's there. So imagine neutron breaks part, electron, proton, electron proton, come back together and make a neutron. And imagine that oscillating back and forth. Okay, well, that doesn't happen in nature. But here's what does. If I take anti matter, and run it backwards in time, it's the same thing as matter running forward in time. Okay, so let's, let's, okay, unit circle, everybody picture an X in a Y plane with a circle in it. And the reason why it's called a unit circle is because the radius is just equal to one. Right? So imagine a circle with the radius.
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39:33Tore
That's exactly okay. No, I just wanted to say for people to understand that, that certain terms are used to manifest quantification. So that's basically it. Because it's equal to one
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39:49Speaker 1
and ones make things real easy. Mathematically, trust me on that. Okay. So here's the idea now and I hate how having to explain all this But if people are actually looking up things I'm saying as we go over this, it makes, you know, too bad. We're not doing this on. We should do this on Twitch sometimes. So I could actually like share image
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40:13Tore
show. Images. Yes, definitely. Okay.
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40:18Speaker 1
So with the unit circle, let's picture a clock inside that unit circle. Okay. So, from one o'clock to three o'clock, that's quadrant one. from three o'clock to six o'clock as quadrant four, because these assholes had to do it backwards. from quat, from six o'clock to nine o'clock that's going clockwise. There, I'm going clockwise to describe what they do counter o'clock. Okay,
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40:50Tore
so they started, they started axis of zero, counterclockwise. Yeah.
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40:58Speaker 1
move in. All right, come on, man, we got a clock. You know, it's math, right? That simple. Okay, essentially. So the section of a clock, that's one through three, that's first quadrant, nine through 12, that's second quadrant, six through nine, that's third quadrant, and then three to six, that second quadrant. So on the right hand side, you have quadrant one, and quadrant four. On the left hand side, you have quadrant two, quadrant three, okay. Now, in quantum mechanics, because double negatives are positive, they make an equivalence between the diagonals of quadrant one and quadrant three, they do the same between quadrant four in quadrant two. So in quantum mechanics, they completely ignore the left side of the unit circle, and only work with the components on the right side. So keep that in mind. Right. Because of my existence equations, I can actually have the left side and the right side interacting with each other without the same problems they do, because I have multi dimensions of time, they have one dimension time, so I have a lot more leeway. Okay. So here's the idea. in quadrant one, you have beta decay, so neutron, dissolving into the proton electron ignoring the neutrino in quadrant four, you have an anti anti electron capture. So that would be I'm sorry, an anti beta decay in reverse. So that would look like electron capture, but with particles, and then you do the same,
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43:03Tore
but the decay
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43:06Speaker 1
are exactly so what I ended up being able to do is by having forward particles, and reverse anti particles oriented around a unit circle, I can model out an atom. And, and and and what you can think of is the electron going around the nucleus is flipping forward in time backwards in time between being matter and anti matter.
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43:32Tore
Right, so it's constantly changing between the two states. And could you imagine if you can harness that energy, though?
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43:39Speaker 1
Well, here's the crazy part, because these are the K's they're coming from and going back to the vacuum. So what you have is a flow of zero point energy into the atom and back into the vacuum. So the atom is grounded in the vacuum, with the quantum fluctuations, creating an oscillation that's trapped in a time loop. Now, here's where your toroid thing comes in. So the toroid is an oscillation of forward time particles reverse time anti particles stuck in a time loop. Because see, am I a particle, I'm an anti particle, my going forward, am I going reverse? I can't tell. And I call this an identity crisis because the particle has no idea if it's common or going, what's up what's down, and time loop, it's literally stuck in a loop. So that that would be the hydrogen atom. So the idea is, if you could exploit that model, and expand it out, that's how you could have that's how you tap into zero point and have zero point energy flow through time through a Taurus So now here's here's the good stuff. So now imagine a bunch of beta decay, and a bunch of anti beta decay. But instead of unit circle, you've got a flying saucer. Right. And so what it is, is it's looping around the craft, in and out, in and out, in and out. And in doing so you have a virtual quantum flux through the center of this thing in one direction of time. And another direction time. So picture in the first quadrant, and the third quadrant, a diagonal line that represents forward time motion, and then in the fourth quadrant, in the second quadrant, a die. That's backwards time motion, okay.
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45:53Tore
Let me just let me just state this for a second. So guys, just so you understand this motion between times is kind of like when, when to when two elements want to come together, they have orbits of electrons, this is how bonds happen, right? So when you have, you know, to, you know, to to atoms that have their electrons, their electron needs to jump from one orbit to an outside orbit. In order to make this exchange, let's just say, that takes a lot of energy. So what Gavin is describing is the state of one thing going back in time before it jump, and while it jump, all at the same time, back and forth, as if it's ping ponging between two places. So it's two places in space and time. But it's going back and forth, back and forth, which generates this kind of oscillating type energy that just keeps going and going kind of like a tour. Right?
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46:55Speaker 1
Exactly. Now, a physicist would jump in and go, No, that's not gonna work, because the matter in the anti matter gonna collide and annihilate each other. And my response to that is, if you assume one dimension of time, because what the existing equations do is destroy the concept of simultaneity. Now, physicists would jump go, Oh, we can't do that. Because if we don't have simultaneity, then relativity doesn't work. Well, what simultaneity? First of all, simultaneity is the relation between two events assumed to be happening at the same time in a given frame of reference. Now, let's say we can break simultaneity in multiple time dimensions. So what that would be is that the forward thing about it, the forward moving particles are further into the future than the remote reverse moving into particles that are further in the past. So when the reverse moving anti particle gets to where the forward moving particle is, there's a break in simultaneity because one's in the past relative, the other the others in the future, relative to the other, so they never actually touch.
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48:12Tore
Right.
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48:14Speaker 1
Okay, and the reason why I'm able to do that is because all simultaneity is when you actually get into the the minutiae of the equations. It's the maintaining what's called invariance, meaning, the ability to distinguish x motion from y motion from z motion, motion, charge from parity, like we have to have these things, at perpendicular, essentially, preserving the Pythagorean Theorem, if you want to be super technical, so the irony is the existence equations are an alternative to the Pythagorean theorem that allows you to operate in multiple time dimensions. So I'm able to have an invariance, while at the same time breaking simultaneity. Right? And, and that applied to plasma physics and all these other things, literally gets passed the over unity issue and gets into essentially phase transitions. So basically, what I found is a way to bypass the infinite energy spike that you have add a phase transition. It's like a shortcut around it. So essentially, what it is, is you can picture the, the zero where where the x, okay, going back to the Unity circle, where the x and y coordinates go through the origin or the zero point. That's where the phase transition occurs. So that's where the Forward moving beta k is swapped out with the reverse moving anti beta k, is that the phase transition. Now what's crazy is I have proof of this. This was something I predicted in the 90s. And this is something that's now been verified. So I'll read you this perfect liquid core gluon plasma is the most bored for tickle fluid. So turns out, that if you actually heat, well, you don't heat them, you collide the shit out of them. So in essence, they get hot, okay, so the idea is, if we take a bunch of hadrons, which are made of quarks, and gluons, right, we smash those fuckers really good together, we can create what's essentially 10 trillion degrees Fahrenheit, which is the hottest temperature ever created on earth, and it creates what's called the Quark gluon plasma, this thing is so hot, it's no longer hot, it acts like a cold, super fluid. Okay, now hold that thought. In 2013, they were able to create negative absolute temperatures, showing that if you actually reduce stuff down to zero, and keep going, it becomes negative Calvin and flips in the Properties reverse. So notice physical report properties reverse at the maximum temperature and physical properties reverse at the minimum temperature. If you take that and apply it to an atom, those are the phase transitions.
Unknown Speaker
You got it?
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51:48Tore
Yeah, no, I got it. I got it.
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51:50Speaker 1
So repeat it back. Let's see. Let's I want to hear you well, let's
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51:54Tore
let's let's put it let's put it on a dumbed down level, okay, to people that don't understand it. If you could take a ping pong ball, and this is very layman and have it in a box, a box and be able to harness the energy it takes to jump from one side to the other in constant motion. That's how you can harness the greatest energy from going and coming is basically what you're explaining to people in more technical terms on an atomic level, which is the greatest energy, you know, a, you know, an atom leaving an orbit to go to an outer orbit to actually pull away from the center, which is the atom, right, is pretty much energy that is bigger than anything we can conceive. But on a nano scale. Like we don't need to understand
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52:53Speaker 1
how that one. Yeah, that's why exactly we normalization. And that's what all the Goofy String theory is to zero out. The irony is, is I don't have the renormalization problem, because I'm using forward reverse time lines. So I zeroed out with the timelines, rather than having to come up with a bunch of, you know, hand waving,
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53:17Tore
right, but just people need to understand just how immense that energy is, on an app just for an atom to have one of its electrons in its orbit. That I mean, the closer the orbit, if it's in the inner inner orbit to the outer orbit takes energy. So people need to understand this is coming from like, orbit energy of the first orbit around, you know, the center, jumping to another, it's in an insane amount of energy. So when you scale it up, we don't even have anything that could be similar to that, you know, in this, you know, construct of this 3d reality, the only thing we could do is imagine just how much energy is needed. So imagine it going back and forth, that's even more insane. I'm just trying to get people's going. It's like jumping from one side of a building to another. When, you know, you need a lot of energy to jump to the other side, I can't explain it. I hope this helps. I'm looking at messages to some people on telegram to see where they need classification clarification, they say classification. So
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54:28Speaker 1
so it's really as simple as if you could duplicate what I'm saying, but with loss of stuff. And and just using magnetic fields to you know, to basically create the pathways for the particle movement, you would essentially be able to generate a giant quantum field. Now, in some of the older versions of the of the flying disc, The idea was that they would ionize the air above and below, and that they could charge it and that it would almost act like an airfoil. But instead of pressure be magnetic potential. And they basically are just super charging the air below and one charge and the air above and another and essentially floating on electromagnetic field. So yeah, there's not these aren't really anti gravitic machines. They're, they're more like, I don't know what you'd call it. electricity. So it's, it's an electromagnetic machine. I think that's the safest. And I think that's why if you look at a lot of the old UFO images, try to find me where there's anybody in that damn thing. And, and, you know, I mean, I think a lot of the first ones, were just drones just in a way kind of like a toy of you create this supercharged electromagnetic rotating field. You know, it's like a set, the miser effect, stuff will float on the superato were super cool. Metal will float on a magnet, that's essentially the same kind of thing, but you're just using shitloads of electricity. So
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56:19Tore
yeah, no, no, I think people are getting it and what, you know, trying to get them to understand this word, in more simple terms, ping pong ball, going from back to front, back to front, you know, from one side of the wall to another one is the present. One is the past. And it's not present. Either, it can actually be future two, it doesn't necessarily mean it's going from present to past, past the present, it's going from present to past, from present to future, from future to pass, you know, it's constantly going back and forth. That's a high amount of energy is an insane amount of energy, actually. Um, so if one can envision it, that's basically what's happening. And that energy of it going back and forth is what's being harnessed in a perpetual continuation if it keeps going and going.
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57:14Speaker 1
And you would stabilize with the magnetic field. And I'd argue that an atom's magnetic field is what stabilizes that structure. So essentially, that's deriving the UAP propulsion mechanism using an an alternate model of the atom.
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57:40Tore
Yes, yes. So now, these flying saucers that we have, and now they're admitting, Oh, we don't know what they are, which technically, they can see their alien craft since refugees made them, right.
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57:55Speaker 1
Yeah, no, for real, right. The there must say that to the right person. They'll laugh so hard. I'm telling you, that's an insider thing. Okay. And that's not to take away from the reality of they're probably being. Look, I'm not gonna say that. We live look at our universe, okay? We're fools. If we think we're alone, I can't think we're fools if we think we're alone on this planet. Okay, because I don't know. I just tend to think that. You know, plus, if you were another intelligent being would you want to show yourself to humans? I mean, it's kind of like being in the Sahara Desert. You're gonna hide from fucking water buffalo man. You're not just gonna go prancing out there alone in LA.
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58:45Tore
You get stabbed? Yeah, no, because humans, innately humans, humans, in general innately are terrified of beings that are different. And that's a natural response. Because, you know, yeah, yeah, it is. It is natural to be scared of beings and things that are different than you and more so you know, when you don't know what they're like, that's even scarier, because the unknown is what terrifies people the most. So that's, that's basically why intelligent life doesn't appear here. Here we are, because then it's like, oh, I don't know, are you 11 nine, you know, there's so many. There's so many deceptions throughout time in referencing to, you know, Extra Terrestrial beings, that, you know, people all have these ideas of what they look like how they act and what their intentions are, even though, you know, people have no idea really, they're just crap. Well, the people that actually have an idea want to keep that under wraps. And for some reason people believe that these two realizations will travel from far far away that is returned future. Reject Yes. Well, it's not like you're gonna come from far, far away in the future to come here and destroy us. That doesn't make any sense. That's even. That's a waste
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01:00:16Speaker 1
of time. Yeah, like for what? That's like going out of your way to go kick an anthill. Like, come on. No, nothing, you know, that's ridiculous. No, no and no, if anything, I wouldn't be surprised these things Kohat if I wouldn't be surprised they're cohabitants. That's one of that's one of my more favorite is that it would be ironic if there wasn't like, Okay. Now, humans seem are kind of like the middle of everything. And I don't mean that, like, we're the center of the universe. But from our perspective, we're in the middle, right? So our eyes look at the middle spectrum of light, right? I'm saying like, from our perspective, we're always in a middle. Right? So why if there's monkeys and stuff that are kind of smart, but not on our level? Why would there be something else that's just smarter than us? Like, I don't see anything odd about that, and it would probably be more reclusive and hide. That being said, that doesn't require flying saucers. And if anything, those things probably have something else. And maybe, maybe they don't even have a vehicle. Maybe it's some other extra dimensional type of deal going on. But my emphasis is on them when they start trying to roll out these uaps. And they're trying to say, Oh, look, these are, you know, alien spacecraft? I call bullshit. You know, maybe we should crowdfund and make one before they released theirs.
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01:01:54Tore
We just made make our own spaceship, make
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a copy on sauce and just go troll with it. You know what I mean? Put a fucking camera on that thing and just go watch people freak the fuck out.
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01:02:06Tore
So yeah, no, I agree. somebody commented. So are UFOs also manmade propulsion system? Great question, I think. Yeah, I
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01:02:16Speaker 1
think so. Because we don't look, there may be something other than it but it's not necessary. Meaning you don't have to bring alien technology into the discussion to understand how a flying saucer works. Okay, so and let me give the perfect example of flying saucers the ultimate VTOL or vertical takeoff and landing vehicle because it could take right off and then as soon as it's taken right off like a frisbee just bad out of hell move. Right like think about it. Most aircraft require runway so the runway is a target so if you want to disable someone's Air Force you blow up the runways so there's there's been this long history of if we can just make vertical takeoff and landing vehicles I mean look at even Ilan musk trying to make his rocket land back down on the the exhaust I mean, that's almost obnoxious. But nonetheless, it's you know, there's no mystery to the desire to have a vertical takeoff and landing craft and a flying disc is the ultimate so I don't see why that you know, again, that doesn't require et it just requires some some immigrants from other countries from Argentina and Ramadan.
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01:03:46Tore
it you know, I wanted interested to see. So, in June when they talk aliens, are they going to give out this information because I'm pretty sure the Air Force and space force I mean, we've got aircraft that people can't see, you know, can't see and maybe they can hear only if they're coming really close and, and that's me a big maybe. So we've got technology like no other and we're not even using
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01:04:20Speaker 1
so my family member familiar with this stuff says it's all great until you try to put it he says it's one thing at the at the at the show, you know, the trade show or whatever. It's a whole nother thing. Fucking battle situation. So he thinks a lot of it's just kind of sits on the shelf. And I've heard that a lot is that a lot of this, you know, breakaway tech just kind of just is has been shelled because
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you know,
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01:04:51Tore
well, you know, the, so going back to these, you know, manmade flying saucers What do you think they're going to release to the people and why?
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You know what I think I think they don't even know what they're gonna do I think they're gonna beta test this and based on the sewed based on the predictive model right from from watching everybody discuss these things on social media as they've been having all the mainstream media drop it out there and using search engine optimization, they're probably trying to figure out how to reality hackus and going with whatever narrative they have my favorite narrative is the joke that Biden's gonna come out and say that the the aliens came here because of climate change but unfortunately gave us COVID so we need this form a world government so we can deal with COVID and the climate so the aliens have go away.
Unknown Speaker
Thing is
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01:05:57Speaker 1
but then they're gonna go and yes all the RH negative stuff and all that that's alien and all these white people and everything. Aliens and then next thing you know why people go home? why people go home this is our planet. This is our planet. No having to get on the fuckin musk shit to go off to Mars to you know, go back to your own planet.
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01:06:24Tore
Aliens and your bad that's why your oppressor. Right. Just ostracizes the space and say, Well, how much does the technology go back to where you came from?
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01:06:44Tore
And not too far that they're capable of.
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01:06:51Speaker 1
Especially after this COVID psyop I mean, that whenever the alien psyop happens it's gonna be fucking ridiculous. And the frustrating part is people eat this up. I'll be I will I have all people they call the UFOs Meier Yeah, they call this species making fun of aliens called hate speech. Hi, guys. What
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01:07:14Tore
if they start saying look, these are all aliens. And then they round this up saying that, you know, we're aliens. So we were a threat. Because you know, aliens are gonna attack us because we're not good to the climate.
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01:07:27Speaker 1
what's the what's the word they call white people? Because they explored the planet and conquered and shit where they call them
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01:07:36Tore
promises.
Unknown Speaker
Oh my god.
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01:07:43Tore
The premises?
Unknown Speaker
colonial know where the cosmic colonialists
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01:07:51Tore
but it's gonna be quite interesting
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01:07:56Speaker 1
to know that they are so they're so out on the limb with this one. Because they're damned if they do they're damned if they don't that's why I was laughing so hard think about because what are they gonna do Pentagon's like, Well, you know what CIA gonna say? Sorry, we can't disclose this. Well, they have to because they are ordered to,
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01:08:16Tore
but they're not going to disclose anything.
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01:08:18Speaker 1
We know all this shit. So they can't do that. Because then we're gonna wait. You mean, you guys knew this crap. And you've been keeping it from us with our tax dollars. That's not gonna work. I don't see a what I don't even know what they're gonna do with it. Maybe they'll have a riot. And then hope we forgot about the whole thing.
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01:08:36Tore
I don't know. I mean, they're releasing it for a specific reason. And that's to install fear. Because now if you shatter their religion, right the people's religion by releasing things like this, and people that are already on the verge really dropped out. This is where you gain ultimate control to replace whatever it was they were thinking. This is where the pope step in with his One World Religion thing that he's been talking about. That's why I'm saying that's why they're bringing in the alien. Because he
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01:09:08Speaker 1
COVID wasn't made in the Wu Han lab COVID was that some Andromeda strain shit, right? Oh my god, that certain people have a blood type didn't get sick because they're all aliens. And they're in on a Exactly. So what it was is that's why we have to use the gene therapy for the vaccine because we're actually dealing with an alien virus. Oh my god, I can I can write this shit all day, dude. Dude.
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01:09:40Tore
Well, probably giving them ideas, too. I'm not a bad boy.
Unknown Speaker
I'm holding them giving him ideas because I want to sell popcorn.
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01:09:47Tore
Well, listen, at the end of the day. They're just going to have to out people for not being of this earth too. And that will be interesting if they go down that route. It'll be very interesting on how they label people that are not of this earth. I think that will be quite fascinating.
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01:10:17Speaker 1
Alright, let's let's listen to some people. Let's see. I'm gonna, let's hear some of the more recent ones. Because we just went on a long tangent. I'm real curious what people say. Hmm.
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Okay,
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01:10:36Tore
I was frequency Did you hear?
Unknown Speaker
I've already told my friends. They've seen Mazda love. Wow, everybody's gonna be awake soon. Love you guys, keep on.
Unknown Speaker
Keep on truckin.
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01:10:55Speaker 2
Hey, for the first time Apple asked when I sent a message this last time, if I would enable speech recognition to better help them get the message clear that I was sending to you first time today that that's happened on this app with me, huh?
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01:11:17Speaker 1
We'll see them The cool thing about me never being read onto a top secret project. Because if I you know, by the way, you do know, and I'm not going to say the name. But you know, we were invited to Wright Patterson to go see some shit. Right.
Unknown Speaker
But yeah, I know.
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01:11:33Speaker 1
But we would have had to go like, you know, into skiff. And I'm like, yeah, let me guess. You got a real fancy NDA there. That if I break, and I go to jail for the rest of my life? No, thanks.
Unknown Speaker
No, thanks.
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01:11:48Tore
Well, you know, they say MBAs don't stand if there's crimes being committed. But that's not true. Because I had to steal. Julian Assange
Unknown Speaker
Tell that to Julian Assange. Oh, that's
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01:12:01Tore
fucking me. When that color in 2006 was Tory, you know, I mean, I have the clearance for this. But, you know, he didn't say Tori, I gave him some other fake ass name and use the voice changer and was a male.
Unknown Speaker
JOHN, john.
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01:12:18Tore
Yeah, you know, you can't say this stuff. Because Tell me your organization, I could tell you that the nbas are still in the head. It's almost at the level of an NSL. The National Security letter level. That was like, Alright, I guess I have to wait 20 years, the full 20 years.
Unknown Speaker
And then they give you another an amended one.
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01:12:43Tore
Yeah, I didn't get the amendment one. Never got that. So I'm never signed anything ever.
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01:12:51Speaker 1
So if all of a sudden Tory or I vanish, it might because we said too much on this right.
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01:13:00Tore
You know, I'm concerned. Yeah, I'm just concerned how they're gonna put this out. Yeah, no, I'm just concerned how they're going to put this out to the people. Because people at this point are so vulnerable because of all the misinformation from from both ends, right. From the the right to left, because the right media is controlled opposition for the left, which is right. And so people are so confused right now that they'll just take anything that gives them some peace of mind. And that's what terrifies me the most that people may indeed just jump on it because it may give them some sense of peace of mind. That's, that's the concern that I have. My God and hopefully they'll be by that time.
Unknown Speaker
Yes, so we looked into the virus and apparently it comes from another planet.
Unknown Speaker
Oh my gosh.
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01:14:04Tore
And they did this because of climate scare.
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01:14:11Speaker 1
Well, because what it is they create, right? They created the planet. They created life here in us. So technically they own us were their property, right? Yeah. And so what are the Christians going to do? they'll react predictably. Right. So then calling an alien a demon. That'll be true hate speech. That'd be true bigotry, and then see we got to get rid of world religions because it's fake news. Though yeah, check the Bible with the fucking aliens.
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01:14:45Tore
Oh my gosh, he stopped
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01:14:49Speaker 1
the beings from zeta ridiculous fact check to Bible and it's fake.
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01:14:55Tore
Like a picture of them being the new fact checkers on Facebook and you No, and they'll come in they'll and they'll do miracles. Right? Of course, we can't conceive, you know, he's gonna do miracles. Someone that's going to say that, you know, they come in peace, because they're going to use technology you would think is not available when it is because you know,
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01:15:20Speaker 1
straight out of Apocalypto, remember the priests were there making it seem like they're the ones making the eclipse app. And then if they frickin kill enough people, brutal murder, right cutting their hearts on dumping the blood down the fucking pyramid, they can make the eclipse stop.
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01:15:40Tore
Yep, well, this is why I always say, I'm given the opportunity to go way back in time, I would have gone to the ancient Egyptian times with phone with downloaded encyclopedia and predicted all the blackouts. Right? And then tell them I take a picture of them and say, Look, I captured your soul. It's mine.
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01:16:02Speaker 1
And we'd read about this woman in ancient Greece got burned to death. She had a she had a magic mirror that would catch yourself. Yeah.
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01:16:18Tore
Oh, my God. I'm terrified of what's to come. And I'm hoping that the more we progress as a unified nation in regards to getting things done on our political spectrum, and advancing our needs as citizens within the United States, and more of this fuckery coming out and being transparent, like, Hey, COVID is such a big deal. Are you having weekly calls with Governor's? Yeah, so Joe Biden and Kamala haven't had one fucking phone call since they've been in office supposedly, was going on about that. Right, right. Nothing. Right now. I'm just saying nothing weird about that, of course. Right. So it's like when people start taking control over the narrative, you know, how they're pushing to not let this audit happen, like they're doing anything they can right to stop it. It's like, why are you going to stop something that, you know, is an audit is not undermining anything. It's checking shit. I don't see how an audit undermines anything, then we should just tell the IRS, you need to stop auditing people because you're undermining their filings. Yeah, aren't you can't audit people that's undermining people. That's one of the democrats call it a conspiracy theory. We should tell the IRS that. But once people start doing that, hopefully the power enough to be able to recognize the bullshit, because it's going to come and it's going to come hard. And with what's going on the world is literally going to be physically shook this summer. Because it's like every harvest or when time comes to pass and you reap what you sow. Things may be shaking up a bit, literally. And having it coupled with aliens. Could annihilate people completely to fall into
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01:18:15Speaker 1
a bunch of suicides and shit because basically, people's reality has been fucked with so much for the past five years that they won't even it's total disorientation. It's really, really messed up. Now. Let me I want to read something here from defense aviation. Okay. This is about plasma stealth. Now mind you and are talking about ionized gas around an Eric UFO. for propulsion system, we're essentially talking about a plasma. Okay, so here, plasma stealth technology is what can be called as active stealth technology in scientific terms. This technology was first developed by the Russians. It is a milestone in the field of stealth tech, blah, blah, blah. The plasma thrust tech was used in the Soviet Russia space program. Later this engine was used to power the American deep space, one probe. So what it is, is the aircraft and Jacks a stream of plasma in front of the aircraft kind of like a flying disc injects a stream of plasma plasma above the aircraft's the plasma will cover the entire body of the fighter and will absorb most of the electromagnetic energy of the radio waves, thus making the aircraft difficult to detect. The same method is used in Magneto hydrodynamics Whoa, you don't think you can turn on water water into a plasma make a submarine disappear now do ya? Do Yeah,
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01:19:55Tore
I don't know could
Unknown Speaker
Yeah, maybe.
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01:19:59Tore
I don't know you Made Malaysian Airlines I mean, I've always said, I've always said to someone I don't like I actually did this where I sent a Christmas card to someone that, you know, I kind of didn't like this year I sent that actually, I put in there a fake Malaysian airline ticket with the fitted plane here. I think you can cash into this gift card for tickets with Malaysian air they got back to me they're like, Is this real? I was like, no, it's fucking not. It's just telling you I'm pissed at you. You know, because all their airplanes keep going missing. And you know what's funny? Why is it always in that area? That ships submarines and planes go missing? So it's like Malaysia, Philippines, Laos, you know? Over there.
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01:20:49Speaker 1
Maybe it's maybe it's the South Pacific triangle.
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01:20:55Tore
I mean, they are the closest to the Southern Ocean. By the way. I've heard that so many times. You remember when you had that map? And it called the Antarctic ocean, the Southern Ocean?
Unknown Speaker
Mm hmm.
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01:21:07Tore
That's really weird, because they're changing maps now. And they're calling it the Southern Ocean.
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01:21:17Tore
Isn't that weird?
Unknown Speaker
It's beyond weird.
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01:21:21Tore
Because it was called the Antarctic ocean. And now they're calling it the Southern Ocean. And then it's like, Where is the Antarctic ocean? Is it the Antarctic meets the Pacific? and Atlantic and the Indian and the Pacific? Like, is it the whole thing circulating? That's around Antarctica, like no one's defining now. They're just calling it the Southern Ocean. Actually, I stumbled upon this news briefing from New Zealand where they were going to the Ross ice shelf, right? And the guy was like, well, as we venture through to the Southern Ocean, I'm like, What the fuck? It's called the Antarctic ocean, like wire? And where, you know, why are they saying this? They're changing things. They're changing things. And it's bizarre, because, you know, so many things are changing in a time where we need this stability, they're sliding in really big changes in history, and what we know to be true, they're, they're changing our reality, while we're distracted with all the stuff they're giving us. This is the problem that I'm seeing with this release of information coming. And everyone saying, you know that, you know, UFO disclosure, it's like, okay, we already know that. That, that there they exist. Why now? Why now in the midst of confusion, and all of this fake news, I mean, you know, ABC got caught editing things. Now, the New York Post got caught editing things. They're changing definitions. You know, they're now calling the Antarctic ocean, the Southern Ocean, which is really weird. Why aren't they calling the Arctic Ocean? The northern ocean? They're changing things. And it's really it's very concerning, actually. Very soon,
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01:23:40Speaker 1
they're gonna dumb shit down. Let's just get real here.
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01:23:47Tore
Wait, you mean in respects to?
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01:23:52Speaker 1
Well, it's like this stuff, kind of with quicks where we found out from Chinese manufacturers in Indian programmers, that in the not too distant future, we're not going to have keyboards or mice. Everything's going to be voice activated with remote and touchscreen. And that it's just basically like, some technologies where they basically had primates. They test this crap on primates so that the lowest common denominator be able to use it. You know, it's like how they're taking cursive out of out of school. They're just, you know, it's just super dumb and legit. They're just dumbing everything down. I mean, plus, wasn't the Orwellian or was it the 8019 was a 1984 where they had the world divided into Oceana versus was it Oceana versus some other place? Like you know, we got to we got to make it you know, No.
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01:25:00Tore
Yeah, like, Yeah, exactly. Well, it has to be like the Hunger Games because that's how they want to operate. And remember, if they use your digital voice print, or biometrics they can shut you up a lot faster.
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01:25:17Speaker 1
So finally, remember the name of the aircraft that I got a piece from so why f 117 a nose from a crash in I think 1987 or 86? Yeah. Sequoia National Forest 1986. So, all f 117 debris was replaced with remains, yada yada yada and stored at area 51. So that's why it's always just kind of like I don't know about the alien thing. Because with my just peripheral, you know, proximity to this stuff. It was always man made shit. So
Unknown Speaker
well, but now be I don't know everything. You know, I'm not sitting here acting like I know everything but
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01:26:13Tore
no, no. Right now, obviously, we have all these. I've said it before that, you know, the craft that people see are us possibly from the future maybe. and stuff that we already have, because they're actually quite primitive compared to what actually does exist and other domains.
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01:26:38Speaker 1
Like the 3d RGB, that thing it makes like this hum sound when you see it, and it can, it can hover, it can do all that stuff. But I think that thing's got some giant turbine fans in it. Like, I don't even think it's really using anything all that unconventional. It's almost like just a giant triangular. Oh, and that is not the same thing as the other triangular craft, it's super supersonic or whatever, hypersonic.
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01:27:10Tore
Well, you know, a lot of people know the USS Nautilus to be one of the first submarines that went under the North Pole. Right. But did you also know that it was also the name of the first naval ship? That was outside of the
Unknown Speaker
suppose atmosphere? Did you know that?
Unknown Speaker
That's interesting.
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01:27:44Tore
Yeah, there's I think they've declassified that stuff already. A few years ago. Um,
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01:27:54Speaker 1
whatever happened lighter than air? I've always been suspicious that that just oh, well, you know, we stopped looking into that I'm thinking bullshit.
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01:28:04Tore
Yeah, I never saw
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01:28:06Speaker 1
anything that must have been super black. Because why not make lighter than air? Air platforms and shit?
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01:28:15Tore
Well, you know, it's just, it's, it's, it's a little bit alarming that right before all hell breaks loose in the summer where people start to, you know, harvest what things so that, you know, they're going to give people aliens too. And the concern that I think everyone should have is, you know, how are they going to use this to their advantage, because, you know, you
Unknown Speaker
can make
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01:28:44Tore
it to just let it go. And, you know, make people feel, you know, desperate is it to make them vulnerable to whatever the policy decides to dictate with their, you know, because they were supposed to assign that one one religion thing last fall, right. And that got delayed. They've been talking about it for a while. And, you know, it's been in the works for a while. I mean, they shrink this is a slick and read science fiction from from like, Philip K. Dick, and he's talking about this stuff. You know, right. This has been on the chopping block for a long time. Well, yeah. In the Ukraine, when they did this whole thing, you know, where they, they they did an interaction like they did down right in the capital, right? This this war among the people and making it seem as there was an actual war, they tore apart the church to the Orthodox Church was the the more less chipping away, they still change the Bible. They still change stuff. They still moved over to doing mass on Sundays. They still change things right?
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01:29:57Speaker 1
But the cool about you being Greek Orthodox You've got the Roman and Protestant version of Christianity that's still practicing the solarization of Jesus. Let's be honest. Yeah, yeah. Where the orthodoxy doesn't like you guys don't celebrate Jesus on the solar calendar days, you know, like how everybody else does.
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01:30:26Tore
Right? Well, it goes by, you know how it was then this is why it's Holy Week now for us this Sunday is Easter, it always shifts to has to be right after Passover, you know, during that time. But anyway, what I was going to say is, they chipped away at that religion too, which discreetly changed things, modernize things, westernize Christianity, and tip that away slowly. It was the hardest church to get at. Because when the Romans sat down, and they had a big fight about it, the Romans were like we need to weaponize religion and have people submit to God, right? They created the Pope, who's pretty much gone on earth he can, he claims that he can forgive sins, and so can the priests, right, which is No you can't. But I base with there, but what we saw in 2014, was a ramp up of the destruction of religion, by annihilating the Orthodox churches because they use the churches as a conduit that the Russians would use to infiltrate. So now, the church, the Ukrainian Orthodox Church is called the PCL, and it's completely separate to the other Orthodox churches. And that led to the Greek Orthodox Church also splitting and some of the Russian Orthodox, the one remaining person that is keeping it together is what the leadership in of the Greek Orthodox community along with the one that heads at the patriarch in Jerusalem, is because the coptics are there, you know, the Egyptian orthodox and the Israeli orthodox, and they're a lot stricter to the book, right? And that's why I like going in there, even though most of it is done Arabic, I like their services more only because their sermons are more based on the reality of what the Bible is not what they want us to think it is. Does that make sense? It's more straightforward. But anyway, the distorted religion and now that they've pretty much chipped away at religion, we saw that all the heads of these major churches are convening of speaking of a one world religion, because they know religion, drives people in different ways. And they can't silence that gene of wanting to know where we come from. They've decided to embrace it and create their own This is why we hear the pope talk talking about it. And the question that I have is, will they utilize this like you said, this alien, you know, these UFO Disclosure things to bring on a new one religion?
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01:33:06Speaker 1
Well, because what you could do is like I was saying, you just yeah, you know, aliens created us, blah, blah, blah, right? You play into the new wage narrative, right? And then you use that to make old wallet, theoretically, make old religions obsolete. Meanwhile, there's the elephant in the room is where he changed the world religion every 20 every 2000 or so years to go with the frickin the sun moving against the background stars. You know, where during Moses's time The sun was in Taurus. During Jesus's time The sun was in Pisces moving into was it from Aries and the Pisces Pisces and Aries are the other way around. I can't, I'd have to look at a thing. And then here we are going into Aquarius. Yeah, Aries to Pisces. Now we're going from Pisces to Aquarius so who's gonna you know what is this where the Mahdi Are you know there's a book about the MADI where they stage an alien invasion in order to fake the coming of the 12th Imam to create a world religion out of it
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01:34:21Tore
Yeah, no, I I agree. They are going to I think they are going to make a one religion out of it.
Unknown Speaker
Everyone's gonna fuckin will not everyone but and it'll be the great
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01:34:40Tore
people are they need stability? They need something tangible.
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01:34:44Speaker 1
But that's not that's the worst like come on. You know you make some tangibly give everybody freedom, make their money have value. Let them spend time with their friends and family leave humans alone. Like come Come on, man. You know,
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01:35:03Tore
you know that hard. Humans are very, yeah, but but humans at this point are very susceptible they have no, they don't know where if they're coming or going, they're confused as to how their government got this way. And this is worldwide, not just in the United States, right? Well, let's just focus on the United States, you know, people are now seeing through this race baiting this, you know, propose and attempts to civil war, right? You have to think, you know, what is the next thing they can do, because they've obviously overplayed that card. Not even our black Americans, Hispanic Americans aren't buying this shit anymore. They're over it. There's a very small minority that are really, you know, indoctrinated into that narrative that all white people are evil. They've woken up and they realize that they're weaponizing, superficial qualities and characteristics to keep us divided. segregating us, you know, the Oscars were evidence of that, like, nobody could watch that. Like you had to be really low IQ to watch that shit. On Sunday, right? You really had to be super low IQ to watch any of that, because it was the most super. It was so horrible. I mean, I just can't imagine who was watching that. The conversations that ensued, and what was being pushed. So imagine, there at this point, humanity is at this point where they're desperate for an answer. This is why people took advantage of the fact that, you know, there were postings by certain individuals, and that was hijacked, right. People went in face first almost cultish. And it was taken advantage of, you know, this is why they looked up to the President Trump as if there's one man can save them. When everyone around him was against it. He literally had nowhere to turn, Gavin, he had nowhere to turn while we were there.
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01:37:07Speaker 1
People have no idea how isolated he was. Yeah, that probably one of the scariest places to be, would have been the White House between January 6 and January 20.
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01:37:20Tore
I agree. And not it. No. I mean, this is why people went so face first to him into the queue movement, you know, and that's why it was hijacked. Because they were like, wait a minute, people need this. Let me take over, right. This is what happens, they took advantage of the fact that people were so now they're going to take advantage on it on a global scale. People have been devastated by the virus, supposedly, everyone's dying. I mean, the New York Post just put out an article thing, people were dying in the street from COVID when it was a gas leak, kinda like other people are saying there were drone strikes in America, but it was a gas leak. And it's like, so sad, right? So it's like, you know, all of these things, people are so confused, they can't see. And they're desperate for anything. And whatever they throw at them, that can be tangible. They're gonna bite and you want, you know, you think the people that you have discussion with your listener base, watch your base, whatever are woke, do 75% of them will walk off that cliff, the minute they're given something that can pacify their need, because I see it all the time people say tell me when this is going to happen. Is this gonna happen is like why do you need to know what's going to happen? Right? This is the problem. This is how people get euthanized like that video said right? They're so desperate for an answer that they'll take anything that makes sense.
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01:38:47Speaker 1
So check it out. So someone we both know whose name will be mentioned who's a truck driver think you know I'm talking about sad said they were at a rest stop by place and I won't tell you where yet. And he was chit chatting with this black guy and and conversation came up about COVID and everything nice start explaining to them how the conservatives don't want people to take the vaccine because it's experimental. And liberals want all the black people and brown people to be first in line for the frickin COVID vaccine. And he was explaining how like if you actually stop and think about it, how racist is it to want to have all the brown colored people right all the minorities run to the head of the line for the an experimental vaccine. In fact, we'll make sure that we you know, you guys get it first.
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01:39:49Tore
Yeah, but they even Yeah, but they set out them by telling them look, all the white people are running into the the the brown and brown American black American areas to take care vaccine, they're racist, go get it now. And everyone's
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01:40:04Speaker 1
saying he's getting it. He's always explaining it right. And the black guy is like tripping out. He's like, Oh my god, like he was, you know, lights are going off right? All of a sudden I kid you not a frickin defense contractor walks up, knees, I, you know not to butt in on your conversation, I just want to let you know that, you know, you've got most of it right? With the exception that we're about to go deploy this vaccine in Africa gets into this whole crazy thing about how and he's like, but we're not really allowed to talk about it. But I'm kind of different position because I'm a contractor. And he's talking about making a quarter million a year, right? It's like, Wow, that sounds familiar. And all of a sudden, this mutual friend of our service, looking around realizing that he was surrounded by all these military vehicles and all these contractors and shit. I'm like, Where were you? Are you ready for this?
Unknown Speaker
Huntsville, Alabama.
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01:41:21Speaker 1
Now, the reason why they explain why that's super funny, like in a very, like, dark, no,
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01:41:27Tore
no, listen, listen, let me tell you something. I don't want to touch those topics, because I think people are starting to see that they're trying to kill certain people, right? And make examples of them. And that's what's terrifying me the most, that the people that are claiming racism are the most racist. You know, when people find out who is actually behind? You know, with this disclosure coming up, when they actually find out who's behind these massive governments, nobody. You need not look further than Christine Lagarde.
Unknown Speaker
Right. Have
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01:42:03Tore
you seen the bird woman how she looks?
Unknown Speaker
recently?
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01:42:09Tore
She is like the re Ah, remember how I What did I always say about Ted Cruz? He looks like he's wearing a human suit. And he's he in it. What people need to understand is, you know, these people are snakes. And they will stop at nothing. And I believe that this disclosure is just going to help deify the government.
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01:42:40Speaker 1
No, because they're the ones you know, we love you. To put this put the lotion in the basket, we love you.
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01:42:52Tore
Rub the lotion on your on your skin. Now put it in the basket.
Unknown Speaker
Because we love you.
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01:43:00Tore
And we love your children the most.
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01:43:02Speaker 1
And that book we have says to serve man, yes, it is a cookbook.
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01:43:09Tore
To serve man. Right?
Unknown Speaker
Yeah.
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01:43:13Tore
You know, it's it's, it's really it's concerning, because most people that have come out to get ahead of this narrative throughout the years, have always found themselves in jail. Yes. And then no one listens to them because they litigate the shit out of them. If they can't stick them in, in a prison. Oh, you stole that lipstick, you know, and then suddenly got 20 years for that shit. They'll come after them in civil suits to discredit them to say don't listen, we know best, right? They put them so far away that they no one's gonna listen to them. So then, then they create their own conspiracy. Do you think most of these conspiracy theories that exist came out of someone seeking the truth? No, it was them taking the truth, giving 80% of the truth and giving 20% of the lies and then giving it to the to the people to run with it. And that's what sucks. That's what sucks the most that they run the conspiracy theories. And then the truth just gets completely eradicated. You remember how I always said, You know me and Millie should run a big fund. You know when Trump is back in office to go to go? Correct. Okay, so do you know that there's a dude? And and and somebody shared it and I wanted them to see it. I shared it in my group where they were talking about Flat Earth explained why it matters. Now I'm not. It's not flat. The earth isn't flat, but it's not a sphere either. Right? This is what I say. But there's a guy that actually tried to go to Antarctica and he's keeps getting arrested. goes there with his own money to just go and check it out and they keep arresting him. And that's why I shared it because I wanted to show people that you're not allowed to go to Antarctica. And everyone should be saying, Why? Because you could go with a tour group that will take you on a Rock Island and tell you how dangerous it is to trek through the waters. But that's about it, you'll get you're not allowed to go to Antarctica. The question is why? Why are we not allowed to explore? Maybe we like ice, right? We want to fuck with penguins, right? We want to go out to the cold frontier. And you know, chill, right? We should have the right to go chill. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? I'm just you know, it's not that crazy weather. North Dakota has colder weather sometimes in Antarctica. Okay. You know, people were like, Oh, it's like, you know, negative 20 degrees. Yeah, it was negative 70 it was colder in Minot North Dakota one day, then it wasn't fucking Mars. So obviously, people can definitely survive. So why not allow people to go? What's the big secret? Why aren't you letting me Why are you arresting people that want to go there with their own time and money? They didn't say I'm gonna go there and build a house. They just said I just want to visit I want to play a penguin. Or I want to explore, you know? Yeah, I want to show up walking out in the middle of nowhere. And if I die, it's on me. Right? But what the fuck do they care if somebody wants to go hiking, right? And they suck at hiking and they go with heels? And they can't breathe and they have all these ailments and they go into the woods and go hiking and die. Is anyone responsible for it? No. So why can't someone with their own money right on their own merit? decided I'm going to go to Antarctica and Go and Kill literally. And if I die I die. Why are you the old world telling everybody? You can't go?
Unknown Speaker
deforestation. Right.
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01:47:04Tore
man had to wait till May for us to do this. A little bit.
Unknown Speaker
Okay, yeah, no, it'd be interesting.
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01:47:15Tore
Yeah, you know, I saw in my group
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01:47:19Speaker 1
that let's crowdfund a UFO and go to Antarctica. Can you imagine doing that? Oh, what
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01:47:24Tore
make our own
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01:47:26Speaker 1
though. Their funding Can you imagine they hit pieces legales freaking grifters crowdfunding to make a UFO to go to Antarctica. Me me me. Oh my god, dude.
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01:47:38Tore
Dude, we like there's so much like, why can't we crowdfund to go there?
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01:47:46Speaker 1
We don't need to die. What we'll do a Jules Verne will do it on the cheap, we'll just do a hot air balloon.
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01:47:54Tore
No, the helium is not gonna be fine in that air. Because I'm sure we're gonna get some straight, straight rubber things coming in. So yeah, I don't know. I don't think we could do that. But I think that we should. I mean, let's promote. Let's provoke them and say, Yep, we're all going, it's gonna be fucking 30 of us. And we're all going to rent the boat. And we're going to go there and explore it. Are they going to say no? Because if we get it in the public eye enough, and I'm not saying now I would have it'll have to be next summer. But what are they going to do? How are they going to stop us? On the world students are gonna have to explain why people aren't allowed there. Oh, it's dangerous terrain, I could show you evidence that we don't care. It's none of your business. If I want to go out and I die I die. What's your problem? It's kind of like people saying, I'm gonna go to Mars first, but you might not return. That's okay with me. So want to go to Antarctica, but you might not return. That's okay with me. My body my choice. People go into the hinterlands and they die all the time trekking up mountains. You don't see, you know, all the nations saying stop. You can't go.
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01:49:14Speaker 1
Yeah, a little bit of a curiosity, to say the least. I'm just saying even if we never get there, we get them at least two especially we got that Admiral Byrd guy going down there and coming back and like everything's been kind of weird since.
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01:49:31Tore
Yeah, I have a lot on that. accidently my fingers went through a couple things. I'm just saying like, we could do that. We can we can do that. And let's see what they say. Would you know this can go viral worldwide, where people will be like, yeah, we'll find it. We want to watch this shit. We want 24 seven satellite camera things on everything. GoPros and the whole nine yards. I've said this before. You watch how all the nations respond to something Like that, they will freak the fuck out. Because if we got together and said we're doing this, and it's all the people on it, because, you know, obviously you and I know people that have deep pockets and if we really wanted to fund something like this, we know a few people that would totally fund some shit like this.
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01:50:17Speaker 1
No actually do. We don't need bars you can in a boat. And then when they come to stop, like the Falkland Islands and shit, you've launched one of them fucking rockets that people been doing with the fucking GoPro on it up to like 300,000 feet and get a nice clear shot of that thing.
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01:50:38Tore
I've been to the Falkland Yeah, yeah, that's interesting. Yes, it is. That's why I was quite curious. As to I was a little bit upset that
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01:50:51Speaker 1
that's the jump spot, isn't it? Yeah, to go down there.
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01:50:55Tore
Yep. And that's a thing. See, a lot of people get tore down to the Arctic from the New Zealand side of things, right? They're not allowed to be on the other side. And while they're telling people about all this ice in, oh, it's gonna melt in global warming. And this is terrible. And, you know, they don't tell people other things that are there. Because while I was at the Falkland Island, right? You know, I was a little bit bored sitting in that room, waiting. And I was pissed that I wasn't, I wasn't able to go because I was not expendable. So I had a long time to sit there. And I didn't have many cigarettes, because I didn't think I would be I thought I was going to the base there. So I didn't have many cigarettes. So I was really bored. So what do you do you use your fingers, right? And you start reading things. And you click away to I mean, if they left you there, why not? So I'm just saying. I think that these manmade spaceships are going to be the last ditch effort for them to control the population.
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01:52:20Speaker 1
And that's to bring it full circle. That's exactly it because we did a basic walkthrough of a version and I'm not saying that the thing I threw out there is the version. It's a version. There's like 1,000,001 ways to frickin back an egg, right? So, the thing people should be asking is why is this one Why is this technology been hidden? And I think it's been hidden specifically so that when it is released, it's so far advanced from what we're used to it looks alien.
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01:53:00Tore
It looks alien, because we couldn't conceive it at the time that it was conceived. You know, but
Unknown Speaker
it's like the cargo Colts to be a giant fucking cargo cult.
Unknown Speaker
You know, I mean,
Unknown Speaker
you know what I mean by cargo call?
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01:53:19Tore
Yeah, Yeah, I do. But you know, we have to you know, Gavin I think your idea of us funding to create a spaceship to go there would be even much more fun.
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01:53:32Speaker 1
Well, that'd be hilarious. You know, we'll do we'll start a contest with with Ilan musk.
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01:53:41Tore
Who can build a spaceship but we'd probably build it. That's not fair. Because we have insider information. So we'll make a space
Unknown Speaker
first we could be space Why
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01:53:57Tore
is it Why would the question mark after you?
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01:54:05Tore
Ha, that's actually quite interesting because we can actually create the water propulsion system model to work for us. Oh, man, that
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01:54:19Speaker 1
would By the way, you know, my my associate that helped us get everything we needed line to do quicks know, he has the land speed record for electric cars, right. Oh, really? Yeah, he builds he builds a robot control robot that's not the right word. self driving. Electric tugs at LAX. So the ever anyone lands at LX look out the window, you'll see these driverless tugs moving all the luggage round and that's my associates. Equipped So maybe we should can imagine if I made quicks electric cars, like two, three years down the road to compete with Tesla.
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01:55:14Tore
Well, the only way you could compete with Tesla is by creating tests was actually actual battery. And it kinda has a friend that has no like,
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01:55:24Speaker 1
who said my associate doesn't have some super, super special battery tech? thing?
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01:55:30Tore
Yeah, your friend here also has some super special old documents pertaining to shit like that. Maybe we should fund to create the tower. What do you think? Since we have all the schematics?
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01:55:47Speaker 1
Let's make a mini one. You know, we just have a Tesla coil and then a Tesla. One's a transmitter, the others receiver. They're really simple. I mean, well, simple in in, in concept, the ones just literally the reverse coiling. Such a frickin trip.
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01:56:09Tore
Yeah, well, we actually have Tesla's notes.
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01:56:12Speaker 1
I know. You're not the only one. I've got Tesla's notes here, too. Well, I got some notes.
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01:56:22Tore
We can actually, I don't know. How do we get people to see that? It's not real.
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01:56:28Speaker 1
That the UAP Yeah. We just maybe we should just do expos as on all the things leading up to the to it that are human made. You know, I've got some, I've got a lot of old VHS tapes and stuff, I need to dig up and I need to get a VCR. I have a video from I think 95 discussing the coming. Fake alien invasion. And they go through all these different scenarios in sort of a gradiate a gradient of escalation, from war with Russia to asteroid hitting the earth to buy a weapon to alien invasion, and it's essentially a gradient of escalation towards World Government. I should go find that,
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01:57:31Tore
that do you think that when they declassify all these things that they're going to declassify things from project ran to?
Unknown Speaker
Which one?
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01:57:42Tore
project grand Reno RMD? Yeah, that was like the project that they had that was examining extraterrestrial life forms, and if they had like, bad intentions to humankind, it was back in the 40s. During World War Two, the wall, we were distracted. By World War Two, we were having negotiations, and we were discussing and investigating things. And the weird thing is, is when people find out that we're being consumed legitimately, right? Like, literally, like, I've been saying it, hey, you know, you're supposed to be a consumer, but now these consumer companies are consuming you. It's a little bit more than that. So that was one of the focuses of that project. And
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01:58:36Speaker 1
was it the one where they wargame down all the different scenarios? And what how people would respond. Is that the one you referring to?
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01:58:44Tore
Yeah, well, basically, when World War Two happen, the going story is that they had some help from people that wanted to
Unknown Speaker
consume
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01:59:02Tore
and, you know, kind of like our people find these adrenochrome stories. Right. Right. And what's being consumed there. So the going theory was, is that the Nazis actually were given all these benefits as long as they helped them consume. And so while the war was going on, the other people like England, the US found out about this, you know, in a couple of presidents had like, and former ones had dentist appointments and they all had these discussions and project grand was deployed and then they took Hitler out because they came to the conclusion of assisting with this supply, and it all keeks back to Antartica.
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01:59:53Speaker 1
Well, I'm looking at on Amazon For $204, a paperback version of project brand, introduced into the theory of games, January 1 1952. And what's interesting in here is side from this application within the sphere of social amusement, the theory of games is gaining importance because of its general application of situations which involve conflicting interests. And in which the outcome is controlled partly by one side and partly by the opposing side of a conflict, many conflict situations which form the subject of economic, social, political, or military discourse. discourse are the kind. Yeah, I remember this. So essentially, this sounds like the beginnings of predictive modeling in all honesty.
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02:00:52Tore
Wow. Yeah. I agree. I agree. And it's not the beginnings of predictive modeling happen a lot. I mean, yesterday in one of these documentaries that I watched with my audience, the from Babylon to America, which was more religious base, it showed that, you know, there were psyops dating back ages ago.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah, that their architectures aside off,
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02:01:23Tore
everything is the same. And that's how you control people. By keeping them fighting.
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02:01:29Speaker 1
The religion would be, you know, broadcast outwards through the hieroglyphics and the statues and shit. And then on the inside of the temples, you have the genealogy and infighting of the families and the, you know, the to stew and I remember learning in a history of propaganda that that was, you know, propaganda has been the tools of the elite control the masses since time immemorial.
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02:01:57Tore
Right. Well, you know, this is, um, it's gonna be very interesting. You know, what flavor will? Well, let's see. Yeah,
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02:02:08Speaker 1
I think we did a good, it's already 11. I'd like to go to bed. I'm sorry. Yeah. What a very interesting conversation thing that I like about doing this is we're able to open up more about stuff that, you know, I wouldn't talk about publicly, if I would have ever thought that I would be talking about any of this stuff publicly. I'd be like, Are you freaking insane? But we can now so?
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02:02:39Tore
I don't know. southpark? some, you know, listening, for sure. Well,
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02:02:48Speaker 1
one thing about sorry. Yeah. Okay, remember, they stray disappeared. After they did the COVID. video where chicken noodle soup was the cure? Yeah, they straight disappear for a year, go on their YouTube channel, their first preview of their new season, the audio is entirely in the left ear. And they flipped it to where now? The kids are lefties making fun of conservatives rather than the other way around. Well,
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02:03:22Tore
they're also going to be talking about time travel and UFOs. Sounds like Trey's listening.
Unknown Speaker
That'd be fun. Mm hmm.
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02:03:32Tore
So that's interesting. But um, okay, this is this was fun. We should do it again. Yep. Um, you know, because maybe, you know what, we used to do twitch together on Monday when I come over on Easter Monday. We, because I'm going to do my show from your studio. Right. You and me should do it together. That would be fun. Yeah. While the girls really
Unknown Speaker
care to hop in and out of it, too, if she wanted.
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02:04:06Tore
Yeah. I think that would be fun. We can go down rabbit holes on Easter Monday.
Unknown Speaker
I just downloaded this book, by the way. Which one? The project Rand?
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02:04:18Tore
Yeah, it's, it's, it's, I can tell you a lot about that. I wonder if they're going to declassify any of that stuff. That'll be interesting. I'll be very, very interesting. We'll see if they do.
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02:04:35Speaker 1
Okay, they're gonna you know what it is we're gonna talk to us all up and then they're gonna fucking backpedal the whole thing, like,
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02:04:42Tore
I hope so. Right? And then we're just
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02:04:46Speaker 1
goofballs, but dude, they're all ready to quote burgi they're way over their skis.
Unknown Speaker
So
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02:04:53Tore
they're in way too far right now. They can't do shit. They can't get out of this one.
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02:05:00Speaker 1
And you've noticed that Camilla's micro expressions are fear
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02:05:06Tore
all of them are Sakhi. Anytime someone asked her something. She fixed the fuck out. It's like someone you know, killed her or something when they asked her questions, because was honestly stressed.
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02:05:19Speaker 1
They've got they've got what's the guy? Dog rate reset the fox attitude thing. They got bastards like him laying all this pressure. Like Yeah, yeah. Oh
Unknown Speaker
yeah, we'll
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02:05:30Speaker 1
get it done. And then they're looking Americans gone, dude, this isn't gonna work.
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02:05:36Tore
Well the great stuff is pandering into the conspiracy theory, so people can get in. But, um, one thing that I noticed Gavin in in Cleveland is that all the buses like from metrohealth and Cleveland Clinic are all like, changes. Changes better trust us or trust us changes good. So fucking crazy. They're like they're already implanting these ideas, right. Which is insane. It's completely insane. It is completely insane. But I hope you have fun with Project Rand. That's something I know very, very well.
Unknown Speaker
Interesting.
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02:06:28Tore
Yeah. It'll be quite interesting. It'll be interesting on May 4 to man I'm going to do Antartica show. Damn.
Unknown Speaker
So there once was an ant named artica.
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02:06:48Tore
And
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02:06:51Speaker 1
she's my aunt. And her name was artica. And she had white hair.
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02:06:57Tore
an aunt named artica. Yeah. And artica
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02:07:04Tore
Stop. Stop. So bad dog that totally. I know. I've just been exhausted lately. But that was the way Gavin like I don't know maybe the move. But I've been sleeping standing up. Like I was in the kitchen. Cleaning myself rice. worse. Yeah, I don't know when I close my eyes. And then it's like I was sleeping again. And, you know, I had an alarm set because I was like, let me just lay down for a few because I keep sleeping at my desk standing up. Even in the car. When I was waiting to pick me up from school. I close my eyes for a second. You know what I mean? And it was like I was done. It's like I had a call. Let's just put it this way. I'm not feeling too hot. I'm constantly wanting to sleep. It's the most bizarre thing ever for me. But I still do but still that's no excuse I didn't catch the Antarctic and and named Arctic
Unknown Speaker
arctica His hair was no white.
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02:08:15Tore
Oh my god skin is pale is snow. Black is my lips that are not Snow White. So and you know the thing is Gavin I'm sleeping really well. I'm so baffled like I'm actually sleeping like I'm sleeping more than I usually do. I like I'm getting more than five hours of sleep. So it's like yeah, that was a winning theory come
Unknown Speaker
now.
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Mr. Christmas
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whatever
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turns to snow.
Unknown Speaker
Too much.
Unknown Speaker
I like snow miser.
Unknown Speaker
Remember that?
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02:09:23Tore
Yeah. You remember that?
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days? I
Unknown Speaker
was born in 1974. So
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02:09:32Tore
well, what are your four years older than me? That's nothing.
Unknown Speaker
I remember all this shit, man.
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02:09:38Tore
Dude, I remember in the 90s how everyone was so defiant. Now everyone's like, bowing down to the
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02:09:44Speaker 1
gun. Well, that's because we're Gen X do we're badass is we're like, you know, supposed to be middle aged during the day. The queer Yes. You know, that's like our generation and then like, we're like what's up with these frickin super soft t mode.
Unknown Speaker
It's just
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02:10:04Tore
I don't know what happened. I guess 911 really changed everyone's attitude. Sure did me suddenly people started to shit their pants and oh government save us, because planes fly in New York airspace undetected all the time. That's what's weird. Every single New Yorker knows that a plan to not fly in the airspace without permission. They don't give a shit who it is they'll shoot them down. But they didn't shoot them down that day.
Unknown Speaker
Unless you're going over Pennsylvania.
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02:10:37Tore
And, yeah, well, you know, CGI was pretty good. Bug them. Whatever. Cuz, you know, they had indestructible passports, too. I wonder if the COVID ones would be like that. passports that can come out of exploding airplanes that burn and melt steel and fly down. You know, 1000s of feet in the air to land My god. Oh, no.
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02:11:05Speaker 1
I'm gonna leave you. I'm gonna leave you with the scariest thought that just came to mind. Tell me the frickin COVID passports gonna be your frickin biometrics. You know why? Because it will have changed your DNA.
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02:11:24Tore
It'll have your new DNA.
Unknown Speaker
That'll be your ID. It has the
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02:11:30Tore
graphene tags too. So right You mean the RFID connected
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02:11:35Speaker 1
with little squiggly things. You know, my buddy thinks the little squiggly hair thingies are what you think says are strings of nano graphene?
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02:11:46Tore
Well, I've been talking about graphene for how many years now?
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02:11:51Speaker 1
That the first injection, it's like a two part epoxy first, and Jason gets it in there. He thinks the second one makes those things lock up and make clots.
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02:12:03Tore
Yeah, because they would because bots don't work that easy. And considering all the technology that can interfere with their properties. It would make sense. Yeah, like, why is 5g so that they can do it? Yeah, it is totally, totally. So you know, I've been talking about graphene for how long I just happen to have a friend that created it in their basement in a red cup. In 2015. I just happened to stumble upon that friend right? to mass produce graphene in a red cup. That was crazy. So you know, we'll see how people you know can take this because it's like a boulder to the face when they realize it. It's just, it's it's scary. But anyway. Oh, did I tell you? Okay, nevermind. I'll bring some with me. I got some. I got some really nice honey. From a listener. Oh, cool. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker
I'm
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02:13:08Tore
really excited to have it. You know? And then I have people saying you shouldn't try things. And it's like, I don't think people get their
Unknown Speaker
allergies.
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02:13:18Tore
Yeah, but if they could take me out, they would have taken me out already. If they could.
Unknown Speaker
That's right.
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02:13:29Tore
Yeah, well, no, there's like some. There's some lines that they cannot cross.
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02:13:35Speaker 1
Do you know? Do you remember how Gadhafi got away from that drone strike? How he fucking lived in a tent?
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02:13:45Tore
Oh, yeah, I know.
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02:13:49Speaker 1
He's got this like, massive palace and shit. And he's living in a fucking tent. Like a better one.
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02:13:55Tore
Yeah, can
Unknown Speaker
backyard. Yeah.
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02:14:00Tore
Yeah, he was he liked living it. He was he was very anti un. Well,
Unknown Speaker
I needed to take him out. You when is the ultimate on? Right.
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02:14:14Tore
on and on. That's gonna be what is it going to be district one right. You know what's funny? Do you remember that movie district nine that came out? That was pretty like, stupid with aliens. Yes, it was centered in South Africa, wasn't it?
Unknown Speaker
It wouldn't shock me.
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02:14:35Tore
I think it was in South Africa. I don't know. Let me check if anyone on telegram is watching if they could respond. Was it in South Africa? I don't know if it was in South Africa because it's so weird because the UN and Interpol are now in South Africa.
Unknown Speaker
So it's um
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02:14:57Tore
Johannesburg. Yeah. So what It was
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02:15:07Tore
a really good movie because it was Yeah, it was too in your face anyway. All right.
Unknown Speaker
Let's go guys.
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02:15:13Tore
Good night, everybody. Good night bye bye
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