Yeah. Did you connect it to the Instagram or? You had to? Yeah, that's insane.
I just wanted to like claim my account and then I uninstalled the app. Yeah.
Oh, the new Twitter competitor or whatever, or something.
Whatever it was like, finally.
Did you sign up for something for the T shirts? Or what are we talking about here?
There's like five of them and they all suck. Sucks blue sky sucks. Threat suck. Because you don't have like, you know, the, you know, Twitter, Twitter, like pre winter sucked. Twitter is awesome. Okay.
I could never read Twitter even when it was good. Okay, read the bottom message. That's the first one, then you read the response. And then you go back past the other message to read the responses to the response.
Unless people make a giant read, in which case you eaten proper art.
Using an external app to keep them in order, not put another sign that you didn't use to be
a bowl of dice and roll Fado. Unfortunately,
all about the network. And the author of just toxicity and despair and increase that is Twitter. That's what makes it great.
It's yeah, that's true. It's a special place.
Okay, there's the spiritual agenda. Sorry. How it has to do with Robbie. The
what started meeting?
Yeah. It started meeting.
Whoever's running, it says I hereby declare this meeting open for business, sir.
All right. Everybody's open for business. By 2023. ending our heartbeat Robin. Kristen. Hello. That's where the fourth so we can proceed. Although Riley said he will be on shortly. But I don't think we have anything super important. On the agenda today. We can obviously add some stuff. I think what me and Riley talked about last week briefly was just after this meeting, if we could just like him, and me or like two people just stay afterwards, Let's draft that email as opposed to go out to everyone tonight. And then we can put in the system and then have it scheduled to go out in the morning. But we're not you know, sending stuff at 5pm on a Friday or something.
Or no? announcement of the next meeting.
Yeah, so the next. I guess while we're waiting for Riley, I will show you guys I did no extra work on it. So sorry. It's like still, I was waiting to meet I met with Ian. And I was waiting. I was waiting for him and I ended up writing, which I think can be like our first email or no second email, I think which kind of describes I think it needs to be worked on. But I'm just gonna paste it into a Google Doc and then row and feedback but a second email for the welcome emails back ladder
so first, we still need one that's just going to be like, what, who we are and what we want to do. This one is more declaring enemies and like who were not. So I don't know I think like we should think about whether Sorry, I'll let you as readers.
Hello. Alright.
Property agenda. It's pretty short. Today
Yeah, looks I mean, that looks good. Yeah, maybe just some wording.
I mean, yeah, I was gonna say it was like very stream of thought or stream of consciousness typing. So I haven't really edited so much. And Riley had some good feedback about getting more contexts to what we're actually yelling about, specifically. But I wanted your guys's feedback. And then while this is happening, we want to go down like I do want us to differentiate ourselves from everyone else. And, like basically tacking on a way to do that. But I feel sorry,
prison rolls punch the biggest guy in there. The first day?
Yeah. And I don't know. I just thought so. Overall, I guess before I do more commentary on it. Sorry, Riley is talking about the email he talked about before?
Oh, yeah. Yeah, I think so. Staying focused on saying that we're not like a nonprofit in the traditional sense is important. I know you you're definitely touching on it there like multiple times. I just wonder because I see you're talking a lot about the NGO industrial complex
I like it
I need to read it over again. But yeah, seems like you said bullet
Yeah, I mean, the the it I did you edit it since last time? I saw it. No changes. Okay. Yeah, cuz I was thinking, I don't know if you told them but like, it seems like that could be a good like series of articles. Basically.
Your articles are part of our little welcome. Letter, email chain. That kind of explains who we are. Which Yeah. Okay.
Um, okay. Sorry, just getting my agenda. Pretty short one today, I think next meeting will likely be taken up by the focus campaigns for me. Okay, Paula, do you have any feedback? Nothing to really show too.
Yeah, I didn't finish reading the whole letter. But I think we could agendize something at a future general meeting to talk about like, NGO ism and like, the NGO like industrial complex, because I think like I think maybe in steering, it might be well understood, but like, for new people getting that letter, they're gonna be like, What are you talking about? Like, I've never heard of that phrase before. Like, I don't know what this means. Like, so I don't want it to be like a, like a letter and then they feel like they have to like research the letter to try and understand it. Like that should be something we present to them like in general meeting.
Yeah, it's kind of I was trying to vocalize i guess i i think people understand the concept of like, why a nonprofit is bad, but they might not understand the NGO. Alright. I think
people know that great stuff. Yeah.
People who are This allusion to already people who would be willing to join an organization. And that's at least from what I've seen, you're right there plenty of folks don't. So
maybe that's a good idea for one of our early videos. What is?
Yeah, what's the problem? Yeah.
Yeah, there's a lot of I don't know, there's a lot of political education that like we need to do, personally, that we then need to spread outward. Which, yeah, I think, maybe discussion for the end of the meeting, so we don't run long again. But, you know, thinking about how we make that into a process, so we're not just doing it willy nilly, right, like, I think we want to avoid is like saying, Let's do these educational videos, but there's no process to do it. And, you know, we just randomly get one out, because one of those happens, like, sit down some weekend and like, actually do it, and otherwise it doesn't get done. Yeah, like we should make a process for that. Okay. Um, okay. All right. All right. So, anything else before we, I guess, old business that we need to go over? I think we posted the minutes from the last meeting. So if those are approved, if anyone has an injection, so those being approved, speak them now. Otherwise, we're gonna move forward. Now, okay. Thank you, Robbie, for posting the minutes of the last meeting. Those whose went up today, thank you. So that's great. Yeah, so thank you for doing that.
This was our worst one yet, but it's because our discussion was completely unstructured.
Or even worse, yet?
Well, just like readability because, like, if I wanted to add everything, it would just be everything has a heading?
Yeah. Yeah. Because we went over like 20 things on there are just certain paperwork. Okay, update on tax stuff, which we actually didn't do. Not setting up the meeting with you. Okay, anyways, so starting with number one is gonna be vote on the tenant union focus campaign, we did set that month on deadline for PrEP. And then we haven't really done a great job of informing our membership on it. But I think we can get some from tank, which is the Oakland group, um, now that they recovered from hosting, like they held their con, their personal conference, like two weeks before we went for the main conference. So I think I didn't want to ask, and like, you know, put too much on them. So I think we can ask now, though, especially because you're going to be doing that other stuff in a week. And so I think, well, I'm going to sit down, like type up a kind of overview of what I learned from the, from the committee or from the conference, Chris, if you want to do the same, or rally, if you also want to do it, let's kind of work together and put something together for the membership to weave that into, like, what is a tenant union campaign going to look like, even if it is kind of high level, because that's kind of level that we interacted with it, like what that concept, got the conference, and then give people an idea of what it's gonna look like going forward. And then we can vote on that. And I think, because we're not getting a very detailed response, I think we should emphasize the fact that this can be turned down with, I think, one of the two thirds or half the membership, whatever it is on our bylaws, that during any meeting, they just take this down. So if we, as leaders, steering committee did not do a great job of actually presenting this. And people feel like, we're not doing the job, and we're wasting time, then just kill it. And we'll do something else. Up a strike pledge. So publicly, it seems like they may go on strike. I'm hearing feedback from behind the scenes that that's unlikely. So I don't really know who to believe on that one. I think we should do something with it just because we signed up for it. Our very first campaign and I have been not really doing anything with it. But we should get something out soon. New York City has been doing our holding up like signs like UPS strike support, and it's asking people to like take pictures with it.
So regardless of whether or not they say they're gonna go on strike internally, like we should just act like they're gonna go on strike, right? Because it's beneficial for us. So,
and for them. Well, yeah. And so I was gonna ask if he wanted to do that. And if this weekend if we know of like, if it is this weekend, like if there's a farmers market or something that we can attend, where we just kind of ask people to like, sign the pledge and hold the sign and take like a selfie. Even if it says random folks. I don't know what's going on. One The markets are but one is that an okay idea for folks and to where can we do it? When should we do it
the Lodi festival or the Lodi one is a farmers market is Thursday evenings I think
okay all right Farmers Market Thursday evening
yeah five to 8pm Thursday
okay
anyone on the stock on it
the one in the mall like our parking lot outside of Dillards but I don't know how it works I would have to research a little bit because I from like 9am to noon on like on Pacific outside the was it whoever's down bully which day that week? Oh, sorry on that Sunday. Sorry, but uh Okay.
There's a golden Villa farmers markets Sunday from 530 to 9:30am 530.
Okay,
sorry, where's that Robbie
golden is held in downtown Stockton agents
farmers market will be under resent sorry.
One sec. I'll drop.
Okay, yeah, just want to type in ABCD or whatever. Yeah,
let me find some.
Maybe we should just do like a like a signup thing. And if two people sign up, then we go otherwise don't worry if we want to decide one to go to you know, we can ask membership CEUs attend that one. Sunday, a little last minute, but
like I say that's that seems like something we don't really need to ask them because like, it's just something that like we could do if we want because all it requires it will require us like two or three people do it right.
Yeah, and I meant like informing them I don't think about because we've already authorized the strike pledge campaign. Okay, so this would just be us doing the you know, admin business of actually setting something up for membership.
Yeah, so the one Chris mentioned, I think is the Riverstone mole farmers mark. Oh, yeah, they're
all in here. Nice. Thank you.
Oh, are you Oh, cool. Does it stop doing all right? Pollution Oh, Laura. Andres is your cool in Mantega. I gotta say, Man, pika. I have personally collected a lot. I don't even know that many people in Antigua that are organizers. I mean, I know we're San Joaquin white but were more like Stockton Lodi. And was sprinkling the crazy. I think this is off the table. Okay, any one of these that y'all are likely to be available for 5:30pm to 9:30am? What it that's what I'm saying armor for boomers. fairly cheap.
It's one of the oldest in the state. So apparently, they've just been started that early forever.
Yeah, okay, well, who's gonna get in the way? Like, who's gonna be like, No, I want this time slot. 5:30am Okay, it's
Thursday and Sunday for the Weber's down one. And it's eight to one. The Sunday one I could probably do for whoever's down at 530 is big. No, no for me, though.
Okay, I'm gonna take them all up. And then how should we do this? Let's put like our initials in front of the ones we want. And then maybe we'll also just have a thread on the forum. So maybe we just take a day to figure out like tomorrow, which ones people want to go to?
What was that website we use before where everyone can like put in all of their availability and then that would just overlap. Oh, yeah. Oh, two people can go here two people go here. Oh. We used ages ago.
Would you call it dribble?
What is it? No, not dribble dribble the art page. Sorry. Doodle. What is it? It's something that would be okay, multitask. Someone else can do that. I'm gonna just write all these down.
When is good. Is that the one we used? No. I think I just live before.
Don't think that one's Okay, which one is more likely to actually get people who will be interested in signing up Like, holding the little signs? August, no, July 14.
And then we're like saying, like, we'll have a sign and we'll say, Here, take a picture, we'll take a picture with your phone and you can pay post it with hashtag whatever.
Yeah, so we should have a little explainer flyer that we can find out like on what it is and what our pledge is on one side. So one side
also probably the sooner the better, just because like, if there if UPS ends up or if they ended up coming to a deal, basically, yeah, you know. It would be good if they did but also, if we're going to do this the sooner the better at rolling.
Yeah, we should do in the next two weeks. For sure. Because right now they're like oh, we're impasse and people are like well, are you gonna strike but like behind the scenes? Hopefully, like unlikely there's been moves that Shawn and Brian has made that are not very public. I guess. I can copy this the conversations I've been reading.
Oh, right. Yeah.
Yeah. So then is there one before Lodi and then the next will be on the 14th they send MIDI one?
Yeah, the assembly would be good, but I am curious if they'll make a decision before then.
By the 14th Yeah. Yeah.
And that's what I want. It's a week away so
yeah, that's yes, tough.
academies can type them in anyways. I think it's good for us just have a record of the terminal markets anyways, just for future reference.
I think just in general we need a calendar of Stockton Lodi events just Yeah.
Yeah, we definitely need that just so we can
like be able to sign up for but chamber comm commerce whatever emails or
tweet can go pro contests whenever they show up to a place pretty much throw tomatoes at their stall
there's there's always events, but they're not in any convenient. There's always a page that pops up on Instagram or whatever. And they're like, here's every event and that's not even close to it's like whatever. Maybe they are just Chamber of Commerce events. So it's just it's so inconsistent though and then they stop posting
had any one chance? Yeah, and I think hopefully once we have some more of our onboarding kind of, well, once we are actually running and doing events, it'll be easier to go to these events like no matter what they are, and just tell us what I did felt like campaigning I just go fucking anywhere and be like you guys are here to talk about fruit. No, I'm talking about politics.
I mean, sure. Got people.
Yeah, yeah, we don't need to stand outside a bar drunk people do anything right.
That is true. Saturday. And landmarks. Thursday it's 5/8 and faceY Okay, I'm gonna put in Tracy but we all know how we really
thought that working class people are everywhere are pretty.
I know. I mean, I'm not saying we shouldn't go like crazy it's not bases not filled with working class unity members. Yet, yeah. Well, I gotta get Dobby to like become an official member.
With a character for my hair, academia, what are we who are we talking about?
No, Dottie Nygaard, she's Oh, my progressive activist
I could have sworn he was talking about the guy with the burnt skin from My Hero Academia
I didn't know that did not hear the name. I actually don't know who that is. Surprising.
It does anybody have like a link to the graphics that that USPS union uses or like just something they can drop in the chat so that I can put together like a mock up fire
JSA is made good one way we can get to like a 180 Flip and be like I wouldn't kazik Here you go.
One I didn't even think I guess that's what you union should do put out all that stuff and email it to everyone they can enter images
and then reach back out to the guy because maybe he will be more willing to come and meet with us this time. Now let's get closer to Okay, so sorry, Didn't everyone say which one they were most likely to go to here? Oh 530
I guess not 100% But I shouldn't be able to do Lodi or the Friday one.
Yeah, like the assembly one.
I can basically always do Lodi stuff. As long as I'm not working and Sunday I can. I can probably do Sunday. Thursday,
five to eight I think. Sorry. So you Wait, which one? Press
July 14, if
you want to put your initials next to whichever one you want to do. Yeah.
Where's this? Other Google Doc? Sorry. Gotcha. Yeah, it was the first one.
On
Thursday Coulomb. I mean, that's next week to they're all kind of next week.
This weekend that I see.
Be honest with you that one
by one person wake up at 530. And we can go eight? Yeah. Doing it one on person. I'll go to that one.
I can't go Saturday. Unfortunately, it
might be available. I got a double check. Nice.
Okay. Is that this Saturday? Yeah. Like tomorrow, or the day after tomorrow? Whatever. Yeah.
Weeks messed up.
Let me find it real quick.
Okay. I also dropped the image. I think that along with me, awesome. So we have a reference. Template. Oh, Jesus. It's smaller. No, can't. Okay. So maybe something like that. And on the flip side is just a quote of our pledge, which should be meeting notes from the first meeting. Okay. Good. Any additional thoughts? Questions?
It seems like we're pretty available. So with all the rest of the members, it seems like we should be able to get to people to any of them.
Yeah, yeah. And we should have like a form. Well, I'll print out more copies of the membership form, though. It's like name and email and stuff. membership form for people to sign up for the org just in case they ask. And maybe a printout of the calendar. No, well, just to show don't hand it out. Because people are gonna throw it away right away. I mean,
if it if the if we just like update it with the link to the to the calendar website, then this should be probably fine. Right?
Yeah, the QR code. Yeah,
there you go. Where's the the notes from the first meeting with the pledge in the forum in the forum Okay.
Okay. All right, moving on to the next one then three we still need a location and time for chill time. We can either still dedicated to after the next meeting. But we still need a location
dinner or
go on? Yeah, slash like social and really not a bar.
There's a bunch of restaurants downtown that you know by like by the four or whatever, that seem that they're like within? Reasonable they're within a reasonable price range. They're not bars that we can sit down and they look like they're probably acceptable. I pointed out one in the last meeting that I went to, but I don't know if you had other ideas. I forgot.
I think he's a cast iron, which is fine. I I know folks who work in cast iron as well. She's pretty nice, but it's a little expensive but I mean, at all food is. Yeah,
that's what I'm saying. Ideally it would be it would be like relatively cheap food. So I like nothing. I don't really know the places downtown very well all the places that I used to go to are either closed or they're turned into new businesses or whatever.
Yep. Do you want to maybe just grab a taco truck and then we bring chairs
I like that. You want to go outside
don't worry we won't be touching grass or we're gonna pay to no paved parking lot.
I'm more afraid about the the sun touching me
parking David my whole world.
Yeah, baked on both sides. And we could do we could do that. I don't know if any like farmer acts are out on the floor. I think that is a good spot to meet.
Yeah, the one I know, down as off Pacific that it gets Walgreens. It's the bait dose, target track and then down by the for like further downtown. There's Don Rafa's, which is the permanent taco truck on minor. They have like their own lot. We could go down there. Alright, they're proceeding and a trampoline. I don't know. I don't know if we want to do that. It's there.
All right. I'm down. Setting it to that.
And if they have their own lot, then there shouldn't be good space. Yeah. Yeah. versus finding if it's in a different line.
We all grew and say has a taco truck. Oh, shit. Okay, where is this place that you're talking about?
It's dawn Rafa's. It's on miners. Oh, keep forgetting to use this resource.
Okay, so hang out
Google Maps
for next hybrid meeting,
that's a big ass truck. Dang.
It's like they just have like a building and putting wheels on the outside. We know it's a truck.
That's how you build tiny houses to you just put wheels on the bottom of
a park somewhere in
California laws are dumb. Yeah, that's true. That is a massive truck, though.
All right. And it would be 3630. Okay. So we'd meet there seven,
or whenever we got there, but yeah, that could be the official time. Yeah. Maybe my ran a little long or short, or whatever. I
thought so far, it's gonna take me at least like 20 or 30 minutes to get there. So
maybe in the future, we can set up kind of like, like data points along the way down. So everyone can like hop in one car and then go or not. But yeah, we should try to get people to sign up a bit. Okay. That's good place. I think we'll just make a like, we just make posts for all of these or next general meeting, we'll have that and then have like a little cross and be like, taco truck meet up afterwards. So people can go do that. Even if they don't come the meeting. Okay. Anything else from one? Okay, for the park cleanup, so I did talk to him for a while he is on board to join the organization. Actually, he really like that we're trying to stay away from other nonprofits and from elected officials. And he really want like, he wanted to build something that would really gain, you know, the trust of the community. And he's like, You know what, you guys are doing this, right. And so he recommended Sundays. And so we picked the 23rd and the 30th. Third 30 for the pickup days, so we got to make graphic for that is I gotta reach out to him again. But he said he had a list of parks that needed cleanup that he had gotten from the community. So he will give us a list of a couple more that, you know, he hasn't had a chance to hit up yet. And so we should also post that along like we should I try to get get it from him this evening. But if not, yeah, we try to get it this evening to send it out in that email to members. But we tried to post it on social media. I was like these are kind of our events, kind of put a TBD on the publication.
Just want to put it out there because then you could share it or whatever, you know, we want to spread it around.
So yeah, so I think what I told him was we will put, like he I offered that we can make the designs, he knows someone that works for the municipal department that was actually providing him with like the trash bags and even the little ticker, apprehend things. And so if we can make that connection, then like it will come, it won't nothing really come out of our pocket. They would even help them pick a spot to like leave all the trash bags. So he didn't have to take them anywhere. So yeah, so that would be very cool. And then we'll make the graphics, we just got to make sure we I mean, he didn't care, but I think we should put the logo, like his community cleanup logo on all these fires, just so people know. It's like a joint process. And he said, he's busy on the weekends. And so like he can't actually be at these events. But he will recruit throughout the week. So yeah. Any questions, comments on that? I think both of these will end up being in Stockton, but we should obviously branch out and eventually. And then so yeah. So and I think he said five to 8pm. He tried to do early mornings, but people were not into it. And all right, he also said we could do like a barbecue at the event with jam down with. Like we've held, we held one barbecue for six SEC thing. And I mean, Robbie, you were there, we made like most basic burgers of all time. And people really like don't go I guess people don't get a chance to eat freshly cooked burgers, I guess. So we can do that as kind of a way to get people to come out. And then Ian also said eventually, maybe towards August. He's holding, he's trying to put together a music festival with some folks. And so we could hand out like three submissions to the music festival if people come to the park cleanup. But he said the festival will be in August or in September. So we'd probably do that in August. If we keep this up long term. For the barbecue, I have a pretty lightweight barbecue grill that I can bring. Okay, one who can come and then two who can help cook.
When is this again? The 23rd and the 30? Let me make sure
I come for both. Yeah. Okay to
actually refine both those go.
All right. And I mean, like I said they were the basic is things put me on fire.
Yeah, for whatever minutes blip. And then cheese salt pepper been
done? Yeah. Turn it before it gets dark.
We could do through distres, too. I mean, if we wanted to turn it into that.
Yeah. I mean, yeah, there's already enough. Thanks.
Yeah, I just I because of when we did the food distros in Lodi, it was just like those folks didn't. They love that there was like a consistent spot. I know wouldn't be consistent. But if we cleaned up the same park, they just added that I think they were skeptical. But food banks because of you know, the nature of them. And food banks.
Exactly.
So like just doing other factors inside 100 for the app, so if we brought extra food? I don't know. It's just that I could talk to you about tunes to start. Okay. First thing?
Yeah, totally done for that. Yeah, just so we're not like stretching our capacity, I guess.
Yeah, exactly. Maybe we can start just doing it. And then yeah,
I mean, if someone else like what like has food that they're willing to bring and do the food distro part of it, then short, that is fine. But I think asking us five to handle that. Because I feel like it personally handled. Okay, so hopefully, one of us is I was there to handle the grill. And then I'll talk again talking to the city employee and getting location
Okay, the newspaper. So we did approve it at the last meeting. And I think we want it to be our own website. We can just use Ghost. It's like this open source blogging platform that everyone uses. I guess the question is for on the back end And we can either make the ghost subscription as, like its own thing and a membership subscription, its own thing. So they don't overlap and they don't talk to each other. Or we can say, if you sign up for our ghost newspaper, you automatically sign up as like our non member email list. Thoughts on that? I guess it depends on how much we like, show that it is the same or upfront.
I guess the goal is supposed to be
Well, Mark, can you can you repeat one more time? So
for the so we'll have like, we'll use ghosts Since it's like this open source blogging platform, and everyone's moving to it. So when people sign up, like subscribe to ghost, they're signing up for that, like newspapers email list, right? So two things should we use Ghost to be sending out the emails for like, upcoming articles, etc, and have it be its own kind of independent thing, where if you sign up for Ghost, that's all you get as you get voices of the working class emails, and you don't get anything from working class unity OS, you know, wc writes an article specifically about us, or do we not use go see no back end whatsoever. And this is someone sends up an email, they immediately become like non members of WC, EU. And then we send out like article updates as a part of our other stuff that we email out. So you know, they get
can we make it? Can we make it so that like, you know how I this is kind of sneaky, but you know how, like, when you sign up for some website, or whatever, you have to like, click the button says, I don't want these messages from this person or whatever. Can we just make it like that so that they can opt out if they want, but they're opted in, basically to get WC you stuff if they sign up.
Okay, so I was opt in to ghost, because that's what you're signing up for. But right up, you can opt out of WC? Yes.
Yeah. Basically, because, like, I guarantee like, some people are going to not want both, but we would kind of want to, like, encourage both of them.
Okay, that sounds for me, I was thinking that we would want to keep them separate just that way that so that they at least okay, this is from us. And then this is the newspaper, you know what I mean? Like, so that its own thing. Okay, because otherwise it might just get lost in all of our updates. Yeah. So that if we put it separate, then it's not like we're overloading them if they're different things.
Definitely. Okay. What are the news letter or newspaper with option to be seen on?
Okay, yeah, cuz we want those signups? And then if they don't want it anymore, yeah. Whatever.
I think at the bottom of all, our articles should be a join. Definitely see, but
like, when I don't know what the typesetting will be, but presumably, it'll be like working class news or whatever. A product of the working class unity or something or?
Yeah, yeah. And like, we should maintain branding between the two. And I'll make them one just to say, like, you don't need four different fonts installed, just to WC work. Okay. Sorry, good.
No, no, no, I was gonna agree with you.
Okay. Anything, okay? And I was gonna say, whatever, like, right up that me Chris and Ravi, like whether you want to do one together, or like three separate ones. Those can be our first like, articles on the newspaper. And then someone else brought up the good idea of, you know, like, we dealt in the newspapers, they always pay people to like, write about, like, in the recent news about like, we're going to have some person write about what Asian people think about affirmative action, but I've never actually talked to an Asian person. And they're pretty, you know, unless you like it from a nonprofit, or like, the same thing of like, you know, what do working people think and it's like, people like people who work in nonprofits who say they talk to working class people, but it's never actually the people themselves. Obviously, we can't like pay anyone outside of like $10 or $20 per article, but should we just go out and like be a little selective and like, who we talked to but just have like, real raw just like, hey, you're someone that like works for Starbucks? What are your thoughts on like the unionizing cafe and like, even if you're against it, whatever. Here Write something that's like super raw. And it's just kind of, you know, voices of the working class like that can be kind of our, for sure we should have one every week column like this out, even if we aren't putting out more like ideological studies.
Yeah, I'm sure we could source that. Or I could source it through the ninth time thing, because people are always trying to, understandably, they're like, hey, this happened to me at work, and they want an outlet for it. Oh, my
God, it established we can solicit open, you know, if we want, or, I don't know how we get that out. I get social media or whatever. But yeah, tell your story. Or we can even have prompts like okay, what was the worst thing your boss ever did to you? Or? Oh, yeah.
Yeah, would you leave? You want to relive some trauma for me?
Clicks. Okay,
what was funny, was a moron about the clicks. Yeah.
It gets you clicks. Yeah.
Okay, that's good, though. I think
those long form those might even be just good for social media posts. Engagement or something
really cool. All right, that's been real. We need your coats. Just likes. You know, I think that's good. And, honestly, that if we're trying to set ourselves apart from other people, no one talks about that.
That's, I get people ask all the time. They're like, Hey, can you tell the story? And I'm like, I don't have any context for this. But it would be cool. Like, I love the idea, but I'm not sure.
Right. So I mean, yeah, we have to have disclaimers of like, we are not fact checking any other shit. Exactly. We it's passed, like a vibe check. From the
put it Yeah, just put it on. Just put it on whoever we're getting the story from?
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, they're I mean, you know, I don't think people well, okay. I mean, we should probably talk about it. But like, I think, in fact, if you're actually accusing someone specifically of doing something. Yeah, but I think
your story?
Yeah. Like, don't be like, you know, my boss at this address, like, yeah, you know, because we don't, we could
do what for exposure does, where they just block out all of the names and all that kind of other businesses. Right. So it's just the stories, none of the specifics, right. Because like they, they, they have a really strict thing about doing that. Like, and it's pretty, it's pretty, it makes it makes them seem like good people, even though I kind of think maybe sometimes that they should expose a little bit, but whatever.
Yeah, I mean, the problem is more, or they call just
for exposure on Twitter. It's all about like, artists working for exposure for money.
For exposure text. Yeah. Okay, if you want to check them out. Operation. Yeah, the only thing I'm worried about is money went to the T u thing at the last day, they talked about Vancouver, where they went to a landlord's house, I think, and they have recordings of him choking the person handing him the petition list. So and so they started posting screenshots, like of the video, you know, to talk trash about them. But somehow, all of that has escalated to them being sued, like 10s of 1000s of dollars in damages. And they were like, We have no money.
Was it because it was a like a libel thing? It was like a slap suit, or is it? Yeah, I
guess I don't want to call it that stuff.
Slap suits are the one thing that we basically would have to watch out for in that case, because, you know, even though like libel laws in the US are pretty lacks or whatever, slab it's really easy to get slapped.
And like, it doesn't like the whole point like they're pointless, like, even if it has no basis on anything. Like we have to go to court and we have to hire lawyers. Yeah. And that costs money.
Yeah, even in California, where they have the anti slap stuff. You have to put the money up first. Yeah, get it afterwards.
And so yeah, they were like we you know, we're having to raise funds and like, I think a couple of their people are being charged for like harassment or whatever, like specifically so it got real serious like real fast for them. And so now they're kind of they wanted money because they're like this can set a precedent for like all kinds of t use where this is kind of the big first case where and it is a very big landlord that they were dealing with in Canada, but he owns like a very big building. I think. He has a lot of money so they were just like, they can do this to us and the smaller ones will not be freaking doing it to us as well, you know, they're gonna follow the steps. So we have no money. So what's gonna give us any money? So let's just avoid that happening for now. I think once we get figured out some money we can get. Okay, so for the newspaper as three, we'll try to write something up about our experience at the bank, those can be kind of our first tails. And then, once we get situated, we should try to get at least one article per week. We won't editorialize it. Will, you know, we can do spelling and grammar, I guess. But other than that, Blackout, the names of businesses, but let people say what they want to say. And, yeah, okay. Anything that's on the newspaper stuff.
Though, it's like totally separate from like, working class unity, they promote it, but like, it doesn't require like, like a submission process. Like we're gets like approved by the membership, like, cool.
How actually, I was gonna say that that's a good point, because we should we make it that, like, the editor or whatever is, like, elected by us, or do we want to have it just be completely separate?
No, I think it should be an elected position.
Board. And if we didn't do elect a committee,
yeah, we should do a committee which
do you want to do it as part of the education committee? Or do you want to do it as a separate one?
I mean, well, I mean, what's the plan? You want it? Because under immunity?
We just do like, Yeah, okay. Whatever. We'll figure it out. But yeah, it seems like it seems that makes sense. Having a separate committee for it makes sense to me.
Yeah, I think well, okay. I think under
committee or something. Yeah. You having under Education
Committee. For now, it's fine, because it's just a reading group. And that's so it's not a much heavier lift anyways, we should
keep things concentrated and then, as needed, that's when you split off until it becomes a problem. Yeah.
So for now, I think education committee should vote to approve.
Well, education committee by myself right now I vote to approve.
That way, even like you said, not even necessarily editorial, but five check just working class unity.
So I think for and we disagree, maybe they can bring
it to the membership? You know, hold it off for
issue or what? Yeah.
That was that would be there so they could bring it if there was an issue.
Okay, so for the stories from the workers, I think we should just let education committee do five checks. All right. But it's gonna be
common sense check.
If it's if it's ridiculous, we'll we'll bring it
like my boss has murdered my shoulder and
your boiler that too.
Get away with it any lives at the fairgrounds?
If it's something Google Apple will Google it?
I think for I think if it's stories from the members, even if it is, well, okay, I think it was stories from members, we should also just let it be by object because it's not like an official WVU thing. I think if we publish something that's going to be from WSU, we should get membership approval. But then I guess my question would be if it's a story coming from us, for sure, also the membership approval since we have positions or should we ask me a sled to go through likely and calm? Acid? If Riley one right, something then like, have the rest of em calm? Okay.
Yeah, it seems like if we, if we want to mostly keep it separate, as like, if we want to mostly keep it separate, it seems like it probably should not need to go through, like the membership all the time, right.
Sounds like we want it to be like what we're doing for the organization itself is more of a community thing. And then we'll have more stuff in there occasionally or whatever, though.
Yeah. I mean, I guess for the, like, my only concern for the position stuff is like from working class unity, which I feel like would be like that article that I wrote about, like the nonprofit stuff, which is like, this is our stance, quote, unquote, because it's our stance. I feel like membership should approve it. Yeah, but make sense. If like just members just want to write about like If this is what I think then he has to be like at calm vibe check and just go
one maybe we even want to like as part of the education establish a column that yeah okay this is something we believe this
okay that that to me will make sense is yeah like you're saying right opinion pieces from members just kind of go through education committee and then but official things go from education education committee up to steering committee then from Steering Committee to the general basically just so we have everybody give it a thumbs up before we put it out there.
Okay so visual 30 See X's
Okay, so many type checks will be checked
and then those columns will sign with our little seal or whatever.
Yeah, I mean it it should come from like working class unity Yeah. Yeah. That can be the profile pic All right. And then anything else you think we should be working on for this hosting website will not be hard and then Oh, okay. Can I I guess since we're here and first two committees are here I would like to just move this over to our blog later. Oh my gosh, please load forever. Did anyone read my like Dumbo? Democrats are denouncing socialism please kill my blog and like not have to care about updating it it's turned into
announcing the denunciation
Yeah. Nice. This is from like, yeah, it's from February. But oh yeah. Not like this. I don't want it to disappear. But I also am never going to write on my own blog and like that submitted to us.
Yes, resolve it into one thing. Yeah,
that makes sense.
Okay, well I present this to add cost and then are presented to the steering
but it will be after all are kind of union stuff. So I just like I think you can probably just make it and like backdate it and just not having to like the new article or whatever. But as long as it like stays there.
It seems fine to me. I don't see anything like ridiculous, so
that's like fuck the Democrats. Continue. Who doesn't
love saying that?
All right. Well, if stuff is pressed, we got to set a date for tax stuff. Yeah. Give me a date. Give me an evening.
Let's do the night was to do Sunday.
Okay. All right. What time? Anytime.
Okay. Do we all do this in person or during a meeting? Like, you don't want? Okay, let's like 10am
Okay, and it's gonna be online.
Like, I want to be late on be too early. Okay.
Yeah, I think we, I am sorry, I'm talking to one of my friends. He is trying to find this firm that isn't super expensive Harmon that can do like nonprofit stuff. So I think for initial stuff, it's fine. Like especially the very beginning stuff before even submitting the 501 C four paperwork. But for like the yearly stuff, and all that we'll get it run past someone that knows what they're doing. But that way, you know, like, Okay, any other questions, comments, agenda items that you would like to add to the end of this meeting? Oh,
we need to approve the minutes from the previous meeting next meeting because it was on our agenda but I did my presentation then we went right into business. We approve the minutes so for next week we have to prove both just so we don't forget
Yeah. Okay, anyone else? Any like new ideas you'd like membership to explore next meeting? Great fun things to do.
All right. I got tons of stuff but it's little stuff on Want to talk with you about her brain? And then we can see if anything needs to be actually talked about?
Okay. Well, I'm gonna be online for like another half an hour to an hour. So a motion to adjourn the meeting and then just hang out afterwards, but I'll continue the recording. Can I get a second? Or move to end?
Yeah. Unless unless anybody has anything else?
No, no. All right. Meeting tracking. Thank you very much. We were only five minutes over this time getting back. I would like to really like respect people's time and not always be like, an hour and a half of work.
Time. Yeah. Are you a socialist?
No, you try not to be a socialist.
Alright, what did you want to talk about?
I just had like, a bunch of notes of stuff that's been randomly coming up in my mind. You know, like, do we? Do we have an online solution for voting when we'll do the balloting? Eventually?
We don't want it. We don't sell online voting. So you come in person to them.
Okay, so at the hybrid meetings, though, the online people won't be able to
vote. Oh, you can do your hands up.
Yeah, but on the ballot, you have to vote for a person.
But there are secret votes. So it'd be like,
there could just be by name.
Yeah, like they weren't gonna be, we're just gonna be like, who wants to vote for x? And raise your hand and you can raise your hand? And then everyone knows, who hates?
Everyone hates you?
I mean, I think that's probably the most transparent way to do it. I think that works. I think we need to build up that like, yeah, if you run, it's okay to see that people aren't voting for you. Like, don't take your parallel. Yeah. Sorry, we're gonna have to be like, Jordan Peterson. Get a little tough. The real world. Okay, anything else? For votes? I think we should clarify, like voting will be in person. I don't know, you know, we have in our bylaws that they're not public.
So is that something when he does get into the bylaws changes we're doing next meeting?
All right, we need to put that back on their bylaw. Agenda modifications. I think we had like, okay, no, that's actually a question we need to clarify. Because I think we have, like single transfer votes. Whatever that is.
Yeah. single transferable vote.
Voting here. Um, I do not have data on voting will be conducted via a secret ballot. talking trash.
Single time for rank choice voting. Yeah. If we want to do that, then. Well, okay, do we want to stick with that? If we do, then we just post the link and like a QR code in person? Can we post the link? Well, yeah. And then we can post the link in the chat. And then ask everyone to just like to add their name to so we can track who's voted. But we won't be able to see how they voted no more to see tallies. So we can do that. And yeah, I mean, we're still small and I think as long as you can see who's there. So if someone doesn't like discord, Link collector friends, and then we got to get the extra votes. I think we're fine. Or we can limit it to like people who are registered as numbers like their emails. Yeah. So at least that will be stopped outside tampering. All right, fine. I'll be less Jordan Peterson. All right. So we actually need to get that program to them. Or one of the qualities in our elites, like all the socialist groups to use for voting. Oh
no, fuck my brains. Give me one second. Seriously I'm gonna kill myself. This is ridiculous. Okay. All right. Can you figure it out? My brain is not working right now.
Oh, anything else? Probably. I also Google this.
Yeah, I was trying to look through my notes. There's a bunch of little websites stuff like if you start up sentence with an app. It's a formatting thing and not the character, select thing, person select minor. It's the Add symbol is a formatting symbol as well. So if you use it at the beginning of a sentence, it doesn't do the name selection thing.
Oh, that's right.
Oh, it didn't when I was typing it
up earlier. Oh, very weird. Yeah. It works.
And then, um, oh, is there. The spoiler tag thing, it just doesn't blur. But if we wanted to, like when we were talking about, like having the explanations, it'd be more convenient if they like were collapsible. Or, you know, some kind of tab down?
Yeah, if you do quote, Santa host while I put a little arrow next to it, I don't know if you can call yourself,
I think just makes a box. But I was just trying earlier. So check into it in detail.
I don't Well, I know what I was saying was we should just do a second post so that like your first post, and then a second post under it. And and I think if you do quotes, that second post, I think it posts like little arrow that goes down to where the quote was quoted. Or even if not, then at least we can look at the context. Yeah,
that was just an idea. But yeah, the formatting how we want to.
Yeah, yeah. And we're a little limited in like our formatting options, because the forum, but I think the is better than like the, like the Google Drive black box that exists in other organizations.
Oh, the other big thing I wanted to that I was thinking more about, like, we were talking about our rotation thing, sort of, like who's hosting? And that, we said that for the next one, maybe I'll do it. And then I was thinking, if it goes, Okay, maybe I'll just do the next one or two, just so we get the syntax down properly.
You know what I mean? And you want to just split it, like you, like you and Chris, and then you and Riley can do it. But he's want to take lead every time?
Or sure works for me. But I was thinking about if we want to try and get that rolling system that? I don't know, it's especially if someone hasn't done it before. It might be a big ask, but okay, you ran the second half of a meeting now you're gonna be the lead on the next meeting.
But I don't know. I think if we have our little hearts in place, maybe we're okay.
No, I think it's an assumption that someone will say, Oh, yeah, that went great. I want to do it again.
I, I think that also it would probably help if we just have, like, just just like, we're going to have mentors for new members, if we have somebody there holding their hand basically, that if they get put into the hot seat, it's not going to be that bad, because they'll have somebody right there to help them with it.
To be for to investor. Yeah, maybe we just make it clear that like, Robbie is always there. I mean, just like, I mean, you know, I'm always like Robin was was say I just normalized being able to say that.
Well, it's fine now. But if we get you know, a group, then we'll have to get it down. Yeah, solid?
Yeah. Okay, so like, what do you what are you saying, like, instead of always going back and forth, have like, the first half always be someone that is more experienced?
Or no, I was thinking like, this is for even like different jobs. But that if we wanted to have something just on the forum or at meetings, that someone could say, oh, I want to learn what's this person's doing? They can, you know, sign up to shadow them for a meeting or something. Okay. And then maybe even at the end of like the meeting, we say, Okay, is there anyone who's interested in hosting the next meeting, come to the steering committee meeting? That way, you'll know what's coming up. The gives them another opportunity to ask if they have any questions about hosting.
I like I like that. I do think that if we're trying to, like build everyone in the entire group into being a leader, basically, that even if people don't necessarily like, want to do it, right, they're not like, Hey, can I do this, we're still going to want to, like encourage those people to be doing it. So
yeah, there is the sortition thing of like, that is kind of the end goal of like, the end goal of really keeping things democratic and avoiding the, you know, the iron law of oligarchy is using sortition which is like random, random selection for like leadership and for everything. And so, I mean, yeah, I mean, obviously, we're not there yet.
We're Greek. We mean, we should make an event but everyone's Name and a hattons. Okay.
That's what it is. Yeah, I mean, that's kind of the goal of like having a fully developed membership, and like having processes where people can plug in
the person nightmare version of demo democracy.
But, you know, like, we have to figure out what we're doing, and have a process in place where people, you know, are comfortable at least stepping up or like, if we select them that we can train them up. Before we get to that, but like, personally, that is my goal is to, like reach that. Where Yeah, cuz
like the one of the things that I'm I complain about, about the way our current system works at, like, the federal and state level is that the people who get elected are the people who want to get elected, right? They're the people. They're not necessarily the people who are right for the job. But they're just they're charismatic, which usually means that they're men, big egos, assholes. Right, exactly. Because they're great candidates, then they're terrible fucking politicians. So yeah, that's like, the only issue that I have with the like, the self volunteering, can I learn to do this thing? I still want to encourage both of those things. So
yeah, definitely, especially when we still don't have that many people. You know,
even for the especially for the other positions. If that one's rotating, then it'd be good to let everyone know, like, especially if someone hasn't, you know, learned in a while, like, Okay, who wants to learn this or something? Yeah, we should maybe have a special solicitation at the end of meeting or something.
Yeah. And then I think we should just also do a good job of like picking on people who may not like singling them out a little bit, even if like, if they're not participating, and they're unlikely to do it. Just be like, put them on the spot and be like, Hey, you want to join us?
That way, we say like, Oh, hey, do you want to assist me? And then you'll run the second half or whatever. But oh, no, you're just helping me. You don't have to do it.
Right. Yeah. Yeah, I think I mean, we have to be a bit more deliberate about that. Because otherwise, we're just going to end up with like, yeah, the same what's happening here? All right. Gone. I
think that was the biggest thing that I had. I'm trying to think if there was anything else. No, no, I just have my notes that we've got to make kind of like a template for the posts and stuff. And do we have like a grand flowchart of everything that happens in a cycle like, Okay, the first thing, okay, we got to get the invitation out. And then we have the steering committee, you know, Oh, yeah. We should have every single step in the cycle of from steering committee to normal committee.
Yeah, back. Okay. We can make that I can really get a lot of work to do on the pipeline stuff.
That's not even really a helpful thing. That's more of a thing to see. Okay, where do we need to work more on?
Yeah. Yeah, I think for Okay, so, to be real, I think me and Riley could probably use a lot of help. So we're gonna I think we'll pick like a meeting time again, and just have like an open invitation to zoom. And if y'all can make it that'd be great. I gotta get up on because there's a lot to like think through and plan and it's probably more than a two person job if we don't want it to like take a year for us like put this together.
Yeah, also I'm just like very I haven't done a lot of office work other than like graphic design kind of stuff in like 10 years, right? And so the a lot of this stuff I'm just very slow and behind that so I you know, I'm this is not necessarily my like my main skill set.
Okay, also, I got these like, the little like pamphlet so like Know Your Rights and AIDS. And they've been put together by like, some unions, some of the nonprofit people like Takara and blah, blah. They're not up focus or anything. They're just you know, exercising your rights, blah, blah. I'll take them. But as part of like our youth, and there's a bunch like the blue one, that I got this one off, so we can use this as kind of a basis for like you. Labor pamphlet stuff to put together. I think we've really put that. Did we vote on that? Why are we doing that? Do you make it a thing? It was like you labor organizing, like we wanted to make like little side quests.
We said something about it, didn't we? Yeah. Did it ever go in front of the membership? Or was it when I was sick? Or or? I don't think so. We just never ended up doing it.
There are no results.
Okay. I better recall that. But
was that? Was it just when we were talking at? Or was when we were working on the pipeline stuff?
No, my phone was weak. Okay, I know we were doing it at the Pride event we were. Yeah, like telling people, Hey, if you want to learn about this, come join NWCU.
You said something like permission forms,
right? Because we had recruited a bunch of life or a couple of young people. And one of them was definitely like your wives would love for my classmates to get this kind of education. But we were like, Yeah, we need more. We need permission slips. Plus, we don't have anything. Plus, we talked about like going on to school campus and like holding these events. Maybe it was still on the developmental stage? Do we do want to present it to membership as like? I don't think it's a focus campaign because we don't, unless we're like, actually going to dedicate time for like, go to well, summer learners,
it can be an out of focus campaign.
Yeah, like the community cleanup thing.
Yeah, just like a blurry background thing.
Yeah. Like community cleanup is just like, sure, take some resources, but not a lot of planning, which I think even for something like this, the planning is like putting that together. And then after that, it's not so much. I don't know if we can get an audience a lot of you over the summer. So that's when people are most likely to be working. As cool. Maybe.
Yeah, I mean, to me, to me, it makes a lot of sense to try and because like it Zoomers and the whatever the people who come after Zoomer that are called I don't remember anymore. They seem way more alpha, alpha alpha. i That just makes me think of Power Rangers. Yeah. Anyways, um, they seem, they seem stoked about hating capitalism. And that seems like a lot of passion to harness. And if history has taught us anything, student revolutions are very powerful. And,
yeah, and we gotta make sure they don't get redirected and like some dumb stuff. So
Right, exactly. So it makes a lot of sense to me to like, try and eat or to engage resources on that kind of stuff.
Okay, should we bring it up as a non focus campaign? And then, like, what would it look like? If we were to do this now? Like, okay, let's, let's have like, an hour long presentation on like, workers, right to some q&a and feedback and stuff?
I don't think they can focus that long. I don't even know I can focus that long. Okay. I think it would have to be, it would have to be like, relatively short, right? It would have to be kinda like to the point. Like, here's, here's, like, brains. It it's not they don't have brains. It's just that that like, just like, I can't focus to save my life anymore. The internet has robbed me and my ability to robbed everyone. Yeah. So it would have to be like, short and sweet. And then have like a q&a afterwards. And then have, like, probably links to resources or info. Yeah. And probably social media stuff, too.
I mean, another big backlog for us. Certainly the content. Okay, so like a 30 minute presentation on rights or whatever I think I'll try to watch for if we can just, I'll make the threads. And then if we can pull resources that we find. Like other people's presentations and stuff, so we're not like, Why reinvent the wheel? And then I'll see if I can get someone like Dotty or someone else I know in the union to like come out as or even. What's his face? The steward that came to a reading group. Lucas? Yeah, he's a steward for CSEA. He's co joining WC, so he has to come out as kind of like the backup for q&a. If there's something we're not familiar with, like local local labor law. I think that'd be great. Yeah, 30 minutes q&a. Maybe we do it at like a park or something. Maybe as a part of the TCU stuff. If we pick a neighborhood that we're going to canvass, we just like, pound them with extra resources. Like we'll do Park cleanups, or teach your kids about 10 about their labor rights. Hey, don't you also want to farm attorney?
Yeah. That's I mean, that sounds good because like that's that's kind of what Food Not Bombs does right food, not bombs, like, Hey, we're gonna feed people or whatever. A but while we're feeding you, you're gonna talk about socialism not talking about anarchism, I'm talking about stabilizing the government or something I don't know, like, whatever, right? It's just like this is whatever it is you want to talk about? Because it just, they see you're helping, right? They can like they actually see you as a person too, which is like, super bright.
And you're like in their neighborhood? You're, I mean, we are asking in return that they become members, but
that's better. That seems pretty mild, though.
Yeah, it's better than like, and remember, vote for Democrats afterwards? Or even just like voting at all. Yeah, okay. That sounds good. All right, ended up keeping half an hour late in place. When all the meetings over, it's fine. You can leave whenever you want. This is your fault that you're staying late. Okay, that's another thing is piling it on? Do you know what happened chance to go through the tenant union PDFs? Well, I guess we already saw them, Robbie and Chris,
I still need to review mine.
I haven't gone through the I haven't gone through the templates. But I did scan them and it's kind of a mess. I have to sort them. Because the scanner was I could like pick the staple out of the pamphlets to scan and it would like scan page one, two, and then we're like put through like five pages at once to the scanner. So some of the files are like repeat attempts of me trying to put them all through the scanner at once. And I think there's still some single paid stuff. And Chris, if you know any, like graphic artists, or Riley if you want to tack on another thing to your to do list. Yeah. Like design some tenant union fires like that. Some really cool ones. Like we shouldn't just steal their ideas. But
yeah, if you show if you give me some like ideas of what it looks like, I'll see if I can work on a little bit of it. But yeah, I'll also take whatever help there is.
Yeah, I mean, I know people who do like their posters and stuff so I can ask him and see if they're interested.
Yeah, but he also talked about like this posting kind of WC you are like pro worker shit just like around town. Like plaster over Josh harder space especially.
Like that was a weird choice. Graham. He's not very like, electrifying. In any sense.
He doesn't usually show his face and like the ads, like his print ads and stuff, but
it's true. That's when you guys when you're when you're saying that. I can't remember someone saying like, Oh, my aunt thinks he's handsome. I'm like, I've never even seen that David is always kind of just a piece of text on the side. Yeah,
I think he wants to avoid like looking like hey, you you're voting for like white Urkel? Oh, yeah. Wants to not
exactly scream Stockton
no no they didn't do the research
Yeah, don't show face yeah yeah um yeah, I think
I'm just working on the the up us or the UPS union right now. So if you have any you have any like art like things like you might want to copyright things that you want like this is the style of the thing just fucking send all of them to me at the same time.
Here I mean, just go to MIT journey also prompt I was I was using yeah in the style of a new do poster. It makes it look old. Mm. Like hopefully people will relate that to like FDR have good feelings from it
Yeah, it putting the word socialism in is bad because it just makes everything read.
Yeah, that's just right. That's why a New Deal poster at least makes it look kind of like workers for you but you have to put like a diverse group of people otherwise it's all just white dudes and suits and X
What's up Dr. Weather wanted out.
So a UPS truck in the style of a New Deal poster.
All right I'm doing UPS New Deal poster of UPS delivery truck see what it gives us
10,000 degrees
I did one and it it gave me a very old timey ups. See it
looks like it's a Batman cartoon
Have you seen the really old Batman Batmobiles it's literally just a black car yeah, is that's it
on otter under off share is amazing for art it looks like one of those British cabs just a little longer
maybe like a modern UPS truck
looks like copy Are you brilliant? Thank you Ah, I know exactly what I want perfect
amazing job deli texts
it's so similar to what it gave me
the first time sure I will love the one Why is it in the middle of the field nature's EPS crush
yeah it's PPS T truck
yes to
the other one says like up pages or something. I think up Papa paps
let's close five is so weird to me like it just picks whatever letters
Oh this one says might this I did another one that says spank these are even better oh my god what is this thing? Oh I forgot
to say my verse workers on strike and just put
here these are now this is I don't I don't know how it got got this at all but
at least it's a revenue and made poster designs.
My favorite part about this one is that the UPS truck is a building this tribe
I mean this is some great ads for something
UPS whacked knee don't
like we're
upswept looks like a tank
UPS dip stuck
with those giant front wheels and like
one of those cars from top here the three wheel the Robin Yeah, looks like what's cool Robin
cannon on the front.
I don't know it is it's like is it making coffee? Is this like a bird here? Yes, there we go. That actually kind of vape does that say vapes
apes?
Yes. Oh I forgot to specify diverse workers
so I don't know if you don't look too closely it looks like the word drawl was in French or something?
Yeah, it well to me it kind of looks like Polish actually doing this Hey Siri, start uh so that you think these guys vape
they do sell my car
so all these years where it's supposed to try to get ups right?
Yes. You
up no I don't the one that's confusing me here. Is this the the your ways your vase? Is that sign attached to the to the vehicle? Or is it just like floating in midair
hanging off a pole it's not there.
Okay. It's attached it's actually part of the building and they're gonna hit the building
Okay, that was that was all totally useless. I'm gonna go back to curl draw.
Beautiful Yeah.
This is do this the only problem like I legitimately cannot wait until AI is good enough to do my job because then I will get replaced.
US kind of become proud master that's unique job description.
That one would like be changed like the way someone's looking or anything like that's crazy.
I mean, videos coming. And Vidya has a thing where like no matter where I'm looking oh look like my eyes are looking that way.
That's actually kind of creepy when you think about it.
All right, well, we can figure out how you can version painting eyes on your eyelids. Yeah,
yeah. All right. Well, we're not good prop masters though.
Right. Yeah, I gotta go eat.
Yes. Later.
Yeah. Thanks for hopping on. Later. All right, you want to write this email? All right. Our email. So yeah.
What what are we doing again?
The email that will be going out tomorrow to the Oh, yeah.
Let's let's do that.
I think by Monday. Sorry. Even when I did this still recording. Yes, thank God. Yes, we are.
I'm just sorry, I'm both paying attention and not paying attention because I'm like, trying to get this UPS truck to not look like trash.
I mean, today is one of those days where I wish Twitter was that.
Because it's something happened that I wasn't paying attention to.
Yeah, Ana Kasparian. From TYT. I guess that's some stuff. And like, all the internet is mad. And I'm like, I wish I had to like the bulk mute button or whatever block button. When it's like, block everyone that's like, ah, no matter. And just be like, this is all of Twitter that sits at home. And like, seriously, people have lied to our recordings just complaining about her.
What did she What did she say? I mean, she said cringy stuff. But like, a lot of times, it's like, kind of, to me a lot of times it just seems like she's kind of out of slightly out of touch and says something that's like, just a little bad, but not bad enough to like, be get hated on the way she has been. So no,
I mean, yeah. So it's like, what's the newest thing? I will one she's like, I care about crime. And people are like, How dare you racist. And I get it. Like, she brings it up a lot because it was in LA. And it's like a mess. And like, the left for some reason, thinks that, you know, homeless nonprofits are doing a wonderful job and don't deserve any criticism, with nonprofits.
You know, I'm like, okay, like, even like Jason miles like bitches about it, like you guys have, like, don't live in reality to think like, the only thing people need is like, in that, like, this is political will that stopping people from like, making rooms appear? Like, obviously, there's a lot of shit that needs to be
Oh, yeah. No, like, I'm, like, even if we, if we just focus on the systemic stuff, and not the like, in like, in, like, the personal stuff that people deal with. Even if you just focus on that, it you know, even if the political wills there, it takes a lot of money, it takes a lot of manpower takes a lot of hours. It's like it's just a lot of fucking
300k per one, like per unit. Wow. Per unit. That's what Alolan like, the problem. The problem is also like, the places where there's the places where all the left is are are obviously like dense cities, where it's the most expensive to build. And figures. I mean, yeah, let's because, I mean, so people complain about that. And then people complain about her on my claim that she's because, you know, she'll randomly be like, I don't want to be called the birthing person. And it's, like, probably not the most helpful thing to even talk about at this point. But,
you know, I wonder I really want to know what happened to make her say that because like, it just seems like such a random, inflammatory thing to fucking say.
I think she's just like the she cares what like the left streamers say? Like, I'm like, and I know you're a streamer, but I'm like, most lefty streamers just need to be like, off the face of the earth.
I actually agree. I actually mostly agree with that. I think like the I think the vast majority of political streamers are Toxic in some way, because what they want isn't they don't give a shit about Paul anything, give it to my cloud.
Yeah, I mean, it's basically the new version of like watching Fox News, like you have equally uneducated people talking is bullshit about like each other. You know, that's like that it's like reality TV, like, half their views come from like drama with each other. And so they're like, well, the views, they will, like, do drama. And like, someone posted this to our video on like a dressing and experience and the transcript. If anyone thinks that watching spending two hours watching that is doing something productive, or like meaningful, like, I'm sorry, just going outside and like picking up a piece of trash was more productive.
Oh, yeah. I also, I don't think like I number one, I don't think she's anti trans. I think that she's fucking old, basically,
like centrist on it. You know?
Well, the other thing is like that. Okay. I don't know about you. But when I was in fucking high school, trans people just basically didn't exist. Right? And so being kind of shitty on trans positions comes with the territory of being older.
Yeah. No, I would fucking find out like, oh, and like, yeah, the whole sexuality thing like young people. Yeah, I'm, like, early 30s. And I'm like, it's already formed me. Yeah. It's like over and to go around, like, you know, needling people further through like, okay, unless they're out there, like voting for DeSantis. Like, yes, let's,
let's, let's
chill for a minute and think about
what, right let's not go nuclear on people. But like, that's what, they get clicks off of going nuclear. And so they are going nuclear? And it's just, yeah, I mean, I get it. Like, it's like, you can't have any conversations around it, because people are under attack. And so they feel like, you know, even discussing it, it was putting things at risk.
Yeah, well, that's why like, okay, so this is one of the issues that I think that when, when I was getting into politics, one of the things that really irritated me is I felt like I had to, like make a lot of statements about my beliefs before I would say anything, which felt like a waste of time. But I think they're like that needs to come back a little bit like you need, basically to clarify that you're talking about this from like, a good faith position. Right, but it's not
enough. Oh, yeah. It doesn't matter. Like you can. You can't do that all that. For anyone on life could be like, TYT is now right wing Fash. I'm sorry. What do you like?
Yeah, no, definitely. There. Definitely. I mean, when the when the civil war comes, they're definitely going to end up siding with the fascists for sure. If, if the German If the Germans and will, or whatever, revolution as far as anything, that's exactly what will happen.
But it's just so yeah, there's no there's no clarifying anything, like, unless you like just are 100% on board with everything and like, never critique anyone. Even though like their positions on everything changes, and no one has any nuance, and no one can critically think about anything. Honestly, like a drone, like everyone else, you get attacked by the drones. Yeah, but like, it's coming from.
I mean, I get like, I get that. And I think that, you know, I watched a lot of like political streamers. And they the thing that, like I noticed about maybe not good political streamers, but at least the ones that think for themselves, is that they end up getting shit from both fucking left, lefties and righties. Right? And it's because they actually have opinions that are variable
and have opinions. I suppose what I mean like there's no space to be like, Well, I have this thought about like crime. And I would like to express this opinion and have like a discussion around it. It just turns into your racist even though like the people that like sexually harassed or like people kept saying she was racist probation about him. And I think that's where it all started for her. It was like someone actually, like she was at some she was like, walking her dog or something. And someone like, grabbed her by the hips and started like, humping her. And it was like two dudes, right? Yeah. And then she's like, by herself, and she has this tiny, worthless dog that wasn't gonna like protect her at all. But you know, and she like revealed on some like Scream few launches. Like, yeah, both of them are white. I never told anyone that but everyone just assumed they were black. And I was being racist. Wow. Which a lot of leftist do like to talk about kinda like white, black people. It's like, well, like maybe you're the
one who's a little racist, everybody. Yeah. No, no, I've run into that a whole bunch of times, like on Twitch, the lefties on Twitch come in two varieties. They come in Edge Lord, but actually kind of, you know, wants to engage in like, mostly good faith. I don't know. Sorry. They come in three varieties fake, not really. They're actually fascists, the edge lords. And then what I think traditionally would have been called like SJW or like, woke, scolds or whatever the fuck they're called nowadays, right? Where they, what they really want to do is they want to give you shit for not agreeing with them
out to give people shit and that's it. That's like a life goal.
It is fun to give people shit sometimes.
But yeah, I mean, it's, it's like that and just I mean for the food. Yeah, I mean for the other stuff. It's like language police. It's like, okay, she's out there fighting for everything, but like the way like, you know, you want grammar to work and to rapidly kind of swarm. Yeah, well, that's the person you should single out to.
That's one of the things that like I've often one of the Okay, so a lot of anarchists in particular, are like an anti communist who are very, like, we need a revolution. You know, doing reform isn't enough, right? And I'm like, you know, reform, like, most things happen slowly over time. I know you want it to happen right now, because everybody wants everything right now.
Be done at the attention span. But think about what might happen. Yeah, that's
right. And like, a lot of times, it's a lot of times it's like, middle class, kind of like, or like really well educated people who are like, we need revolution. I'm like, do you ever like consider, like, what happens to the fucking people who aren't already kind of like doing okay, when revolutions happen? Like, it sucks for them?
Exactly how I am.
Yeah. And that what's hilarious to me is a lot of times the people who are advocating for this stuff, especially if they're, like, trans, or queer, or whatever, is that they're effectively advocating for a scenario where they're probably the ones who are gonna get fucked the most. Right? Because like, in a period of like, lawlessness and chaos, there's nobody to stop the people who hate trans people from going after them. Right. But they're like, We need a revolution. I'm like, maybe you want to like chill on that a little bit? Well, it's okay. For some reform a little bit.
It's like a double edged, because those are also the folks that feel like, we have to keep voting for Democrats, because Democrats are the only ones that keep us safe from the Republicans. And it's like, okay, as much as I don't agree with Democrats doing anything to help you besides like, the bare minimum. Okay, but then you're basically saying the only people keeping us safe is the state. And it's, we want to get rid of state and be wrapping
it up. I'm all in favor of getting rid of the state.
Nope, I know. But it's like, you can't argue for both things. You know, like
100% can or you also know, because like, so here's like, here's the issue, right is like, there is like, there is a double edged sword. So like during the Holocaust, right? The places where Jews were the safest were the places that had the most bureaucracy, right. And like that's something anarchists need to contend with. Like, I have to contend with that right? Because it is true that minorities are safer in places where there's somebody who can like slow ball their execution orders effectively, right? Yeah. But like the I don't know. It's it's complicated issue. I don't know. I'm what I mostly was getting at is that what was fun was like, getting it. We were talking of over talking about,
like, what, what's the worst reality TV channel? Like lifetime is that reality TV reset soap operas,
I guess the soundbite it's the same thing, right? Yeah. Okay, then
if the lifetime streamers, like they're the ones that gets Nukem from from orbit.
That's a lot of them does a lot a lot of nukes. tactical nukes.
Every single one of them has a negative movement.
Um, oh, right. That was that was what I was gonna say is that you were like you were saying that a lot of those people are the people who were like we need to vote for dems. But I also say that a lot of the queer anarchists that I know are the people who are like, I don't fuck the dems, like they're the most anti fucking Democrats that I've ever met. Usually, it's like progressive, like trans and gay people that are like very when we need to vote for the Dems because otherwise the Republicans are gonna burn us or something. I don't know.
Yeah, and I mean, yeah, some of the legislation it's pretty bad but you know, it's That's what abortion activists have been saying forever vote for them both for nouns or pronouns.
That work. Yeah, that worked really well. Yeah.
And even now, like, what's the goal is let everyone in the red states suffer forever, because vote for Dems at the national level, you're never gonna get blue, you know, blue ocean across America. So let's have a plan for addressing that. That's voting for Dems is not exactly addressing it.
No, we need like it. The problem is that, like at the federal level, it's almost impossible to get those kinds of things done right now. Because there's justice, this give up on the federal level. Yeah. But that does like that. I think that that means that there's actually a lot of room for like, really powerful grassroots stuff happening, like happening in places like Florida, and Mississippi, and all that kind of shit. Because all like, every time I go on fucking Twitter, and the people I know who are from there who are like, you know, my parents have to, like, turn me in for being gay or whatever. And I'm like, Well, maybe you should just talk to the other people from fucking Florida and organize, like a little bit. Well, that's,
I mean, that's the problem of this screamer culture is like, it teaches you to never, ever engage with anyone who may not also be watching the same live streams that you have. That's about how curated people's like feeds are at this point.
Well, yeah, we'll also because I think VOSH and destiny are a really good example of this. They fucking hate each other. And they're fucking sad. Yeah. They, they hate each other. Right? And they're Thank you. And their audiences hate each other. Right? But their audiences really are more alike than they are different. And they should, they legitimately should be working together because they agree on like, I don't know, like,
parasocial shit, dude. Like, no one benefits after it decides to host and it just totally disables everyone that's watching and thinking like, there's I mean, it's like, it's Fox News for young people. You know, like, you get to watch Fox News or all TV some random ass thing to like, hate and rage about. So these characters, they also get to select like fellow hosts and then you get to go comment like it's more interactive than Fox News. You know, like at Fox, they could only like call in to like,
it's easier to become a it's easier to become Sean Hannity on the internet than it is. Fox. But Sean Hannity.
Yeah. And it's easier to find the Sean Hannity that vibes with you. Yeah.
You know, confirmation bias shit. Yeah. Right.
So it's just, Sean Hannity is all over the place on the left. And that's why I'm like, nuke every single one. Because if, like, if you're really like, not going to tell people, hey, go, organizing, like real life. Like, we're gonna have educational discussions here. Like I watch a lot of left podcasts or like, not like, I'm against lefty podcasts. Sure, but there's like the ones who are focusing on education. And, like, debate or whatever. And there's ones who work in like, casual debate, not like what happens online? Yeah, mostly. And then there's people who are just like, Yeah, we're gonna make two hour videos complaining about an experience because no one else is worse in America than Ana Kasparian.
That's why that's like the podcast I like or things like, like five to four or whatever, you know, where, like, you learn about from you learn from lawyers about why fucking Supreme Court cases go the way they go. And like, the history behind them or whatever, right? Yeah. Those kinds of things are really useful for giving you some fucking perspective on like, on American politics. Yeah, or like, I like when when I livestream one of the things that really irritated me when I was on Twitch a lot is that people will just like ban anybody who doesn't agree with them. I've gotten banned for asking really innocuous questions, like can you define socialism? And they're like, banned.
What if I could control my own stream? That's what it means.
Yeah, exactly. And so like, I made a rule on mine that like you don't get banned, unless you're like harassing someone in particular, or you bring up your like, in favor of genocide and then you'll get banned. That and those that that's basically my only rule.
Yeah, I know. It's intimate and like the worst, the best podcasts and get like no, you know, like this revolution to like, barely live. Like I like foreign blog. carefully registers and to find a fairly registers
yeah, there's a there's a bunch of like, like, I don't know, there's a bunch of like little podcasts that have where you'll just get, you'll just get like little bits of like really great information. But there's also like I also even though like, I also will so like, I hate to admit this, but like, you know, Rachel Manos altra thing that she had the podcast. Did you see that? No, it was basically it was about the history of fascism in the US. And it actually was pretty good, right? Because the reason it was good is because it wasn't like her fucking show.
Yeah, okay. Yeah.
Because it was basically it was basically just like a History podcast. It was it was sort of like, Who's that? Like? Is it Dan Carlin who does fucking history or whatever? What's or it's kind of like blowback, sort of, you know, your watch blowback or listen to blowback. Okay. Well backs like a communist communists, I guess, podcasts that their first season is about. It was about I think it's about Saddam Hussein. And then this, I think the next season was about the vn or the Korean War.
Right. Yeah. I've never listened to
it. It's interesting because like, it's not like saying like, Saddam is a good guy or whatever. Or that like Kim Jong Un's, a good guy or whatever. It's just like, here's the bad shit the US did in these engagements, basically. Yeah. Which is a lot of pension. I don't know.
Yeah. I mean, like, this revolution even talks about how like, they get so many messages from people wanting to like, wanting them to like shit on other podcasters or like streamers. And they're like, him, right? Yeah, morons even talked about, like, he'll mentioned, like Jimmy Dore once. And like, in passing, and like, That video will do like, 10 times better than like any other video he has. And so he's always like, well, that's what the incentive is, you know, like, the incentive is just to trash each other. He's like, I don't care what these other people do. Like he does pretty educational stuff. And like, same thing with TR. Like, we don't care what. But you guys really want us to like engage? Yeah, like the incentives are really bad.
The thing is, like, I know just from like, hosting a fucking a Discord server, right? People fucking love things. Like they love wrestling. They love fucking reality TV. They love drama, right? Yeah. And they don't care at all if it's real. And that's so incredibly disheartening. Because like, to me, the thing that matters is like, is the is the thing that you care about, like something that like actually matters? Or is it just a made up bullshit?
Yeah, I mean, it's, I don't know. I mean, part of it is like, as human beings, we're very drawn to the drama. Yeah. Like, it's a very kind of easy, primal thing to, like, engage in. And I think that's why even if like, you don't want to engage in the drama, like, if you see it, you know, your mind just latches on to it. So I get it. But
it's important for survival. So I'm not really surprised people are interested in it. But
yeah, it's just, it should be the responsibility of the host to not do this stuff. But so many of what the hosts are just like, oh, this is where the likes are. My viewers want to do it.
Yeah, I fucking okay. So I grew up watching Star Trek, right. And I had this totally skewed belief that human beings were way better than they were way better than they are. When I was a kid, because I was like, oh, humanity has surpassed all of its failings. And I'm like, oh, no, actually, wait, sorry. We're living in the past I forgot.
Yeah. Yeah.
It also gave me an appreciation for fully automatic luxuries, gay space communism, or whatever it's called. So yes. You okay, so a real quick back to the what we're actually supposed to be doing. So this email, what are we doing with his email? Is it is it just the, the from the minutes from the meeting basically, this meeting, or is it from the previous one?
No, this is just guess the agenda for next meeting. Sometimes you never Now, this is going to be like a brief summary of like, at the next meeting is going to be hybrid, so show up at this location at this time. Here's the agenda. If you want to add your own thing, please reply to this email.
Okay, cool. Um, okay, score. Um, do we owe that right now? Um, I so I would like I want to definitely want to try and like practice sending the email. So I'm just gonna hang out with you until it's ready basically, because I just want to see if I can actually do remember how to do it.
Okay, let me just finish I'm just gonna put like the advanced the small stuff the very end. Okay, so people have all of it. And where's our
edit. Okay, got up
also next week, we're done with our first cycle. Oh, really? Yeah.
So has it been a month or two months or whatever? How long has it been? I don't actually remember.
Next week at the end of next month. We're
done. Sorry. Okay. Yeah,
yeah, next week. Part one that's gonna be like has not been pretty much
actual I actually need to go back and read the last
song that we're still doing. We're still doing part two part two of the sorry I thought we were done.
So oh yeah, we'll be done with the next time
yeah. Okay, so we're gonna rename that so a the update do you have
to actually like syllabus Can I just film
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I bought a new fucking I bought a brand new keyboards specifically to avoid that problem and then I put my mouse or my phone on the old keyboard and did the same thing I was trying to avoid why
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we have our reading group and I talked about the hang out
after meeting her nerves should stop coming in should we I mean I guess we should add these events to the calendar doc and community cleanup.
Yeah
but in the location after words or maybe
the How would I know? Yeah, the Yeah. When is the ones the cleanup supposed to be? It's the 23rd and the 30th.
And today's the sixth. So that means next week, the meeting is on what? It's on Monday, right? No, next week, it's on Thursday. Thursday. Okay, so that's what that's the 13th or something which would be 10 days before the first part clean up. And yeah, so I mean, ideally, that should be enough time right from a general meeting to the cleanup.
But we can post about it now. Okay, are we approved
Okay, cool. Yeah, that would be that would be good then because like the more time people had Oh yeah, that's the I can put it on my schedule or whatever. Or at least that's what I would do because I'm a fucking nerd. Oh, yeah, this is so much easier. Why didn't I do it this way in the first place.
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who's a narc?
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should we say a public event so it cost on the public you're
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yeah
maybe like now let's repeat see you so what do we have we have focused campaigns and we have many campaigns because we call it many campaigns
I called I called it an unfocused but I don't think that's a good name Yeah,
we haven't named for it. We were like non campaign activities.
That sounds amazing. So how about side quests?
I'm gonna save plus okay, that's that's what the tag is going to be the receive side but
that makes it feel more fun to me
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Martinez what's the local teamsters union for a UPS? You know, like 15 or something
do you want me to find out?
I don't think it's like super important but it wouldn't hurt like we could just like throw their logo or whatever their seal or whatever on there
Well, no, that would make like an official endorsement.
Yeah, that's fair.
Yeah, let's pick the local Okay,
all right, that makes sense
all right, and then what does that fucking picture say?
Right and then that's whatever?
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Africa that are only two straight blades we're going to ask people to code when you connect the thread on that to what do we need to do? Make a thread on the sprite pledge? Like what days people want to go and when and then
the the I pledge my support for union workers thing.
Yeah, they've gone to the farmers market thing.
Yeah. So that so the the things that we had on there as far as not for the who wants to do it when but it was like what's the tenant Union had attending to your work? Why should we engage attending unions right? Just like all this stuff that people need to know. Those are the like the three bullet points right. I kind of came in at the end of you guys talking about that. So I just like jotted down some notes and I don't really remember if that's what it was about.
Okay, yeah, just we will present the basics of tenant unions. Why did you see you should pursue this campaign and outline our six month plan performing tenant unions in Santa Clara County All right. And then next was like the strike pledge harmless market. So I think I just made a thread with Paulo message man was like, because villas Farmers Market is predominantly patients shoppers. So they might run into barriers from the crowd when weed barriers in the crowd, but yeah, usually the vendors have their kids with them, so someone might be able to translate
shortly so I mean, we might run into other kinds of barriers there. But just not not just language barriers, like there might be some like socio political barriers, especially if like with the older people coming from like China and Vietnam and stuff. At least in my experience, a lot of times they're they're kind of they come in two flavors, the very gung ho about communism and the very gung ho about being a capitalist Americans so
Um, okay, so I'm just gonna put all of these on a full ask people to vote on one second or two and then we'll ask people to vote tomorrow and it's going to influence all right
he built a poll, multiple choice
what do you what do you use available? The forum okay. Is it just like built into the website? Yep. Nice
so the Saturday would be lucky.
No,
Somebody's right
think this school yard is a farmers Market
we can't even do Lotus farmer market because it's during our meeting buffet All right hang out afterwards so
yeah okay that's that makes sense I mean it's kind of whatever low dies farmers markets pretty yuppie bait anyways so
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are we getting Paul's our pledge pub?
Spec ready Butch
all right and then what was the what was the text on the side of that thing again
where is it here in the chat
Okay, so we're putting with so so okay, what we're gonna do is we're going to have the UPS truck with the we stand with UPS teamsters or whatever. Right? And then on the other side, we're gonna have this strike pledge thing. Yeah.
Yeah, just as a way for people to know what clock they're, you know, signing off. Got it okay
we stand with UPS Teamsters.
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which acumen probably This?
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oh yeah shit well we could do that we can do the go to the food thing and then we can make another one out for them So where the fuck Is this
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text for
more than bylaw modifications that we're supposed to make sorry. We're supposed to make bylaw modifications to our current output from the presentation. At the last meeting, we realized that you know we're supposed to submit bylaw modifications one meeting but not approved and until the next meeting, so we have a bit of a buffer. But I forgot what we were even voting on.
I think I know there's notes or there were notes in the bylaws. I don't know if they're still there or not.
Yeah, got on those conflict of interest nominations and our legal tax documents.
All right, cool. All right.
Thank you
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let's start with here you can also download written copy oh okay
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Do we want to have like our remember continuous onboarding thing I don't think we've written any lessons out burning one but if there's something you'd like to address at the end of this
can So what Okay What did what did we write here we use the notes from the meeting right basically just like letting people know what's happening with the meeting when we're doing our meet up and the going to the farmers market right
yeah just check the like No, no, I'm done
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2030 in RSU. Barbecue at burns next. Always be installed or nice. Okay. Yeah. Um, man, I don't know, like, as far as like onboarding goes, this seems like it's already got a bunch of good stuff in here going like, like, I don't even think it it really needs anything else like this is this is like, hey, look, we already have a bunch of shit. And you can just come and join us if you want is there anything else that we want for onboarding stuff?
Because we accept like, you know, always be onboarding, continuous onboarding?
What would be the what would be the thing that okay? So if you're a new person seeing this for the first time, right? The first thing we're doing is saying, Hey, tell us you're coming to a meeting so that we know what's up. Then the agenda for that meeting. Right? And then saying, Hey, look at all these events that we're doing are not all of these events. But these these events that we're doing? Actually, it is kind of a lot. But so what would I if I was new? What the fuck would I want to know about this?
Well, this has gone for membership. So it's not new people.
It's just it's just membership. So it's, but if you know if this is membership, what what Who am I going to send this to? Who do I want? Like, what do I'm gonna want to send this to somebody?
It's like to folks that have like, I mean, in inaction network, we have members tagged, but in the future you notice do spank people, but it's gonna be folks that like, you know, like, right now, folks that came to a reading group and like that, was it. So they're like, kind of on board, but not really.
Yeah, so I guess they would be getting them, they would be really hammering this, like, getting them to come to the meeting thing, then. But I think that honestly, this first part right here is probably already pretty close to what you would need to get somebody to come, right. It's saying, Hey, we have a, we have a hybrid meeting. You can come online, you can come in person, here's the link to the thing. RSVP there's going to be food and community events, right. Like, this is already pretty good. As far as like getting people to come in, I think.
I mean, just at the very end, because I think like my thinking was this is the footer. That's just like, there to be like random educational tidbits. Like it has nothing to really wait or anything. It's just a passive glance at this to like, get it into your head type thing
once again, let me see. Oh
today, let's see if there's anything interesting happening today in the history of socialism.
No, not like that stuff. I mean, like,
like, what kind of stuff like rules for like kind of a
guideline for participating in the organization, you know, like stuff that we talked about during onboarding I mean, right now all we really talked about is like you know, steering committee is not leaders like membership Africans do everything maybe it's something like that
maybe at the because like one of the things that I think we actually need to work on right now is getting people to speak up a little bit so maybe being like we need to you know, if you come Don't be like afraid to speak up don't be afraid to vote don't be afraid to like whatever I don't know what the right way to say that is but the because even even amongst like the steering committee people you know, it's not easy always to just like say your shit. So you know, and that's like, you're a bunch of people are fucking all know each other. So, you know, like, I'm sure for other people. It's like definitely not Easy
Yeah. Okay, so this agenda was made based on votes made by our membership that means you shape future actions for this organization and meeting and don't be afraid honestly none of us know if this is true
we're going to win socialism so it's going to take all of us working together
yeah yeah you don't you definitely don't want to undermine we want to be relatable but also you don't want to undermine your credibility as a as an organization Yeah, that's the that's one of the things that I kind of wish lefties were more like Trump followers a little bit is that I kind of wish they appreciated the the direct you know, just like kinda off the top of your head stuff a little bit more but they don't so
I mean, that's what people will say about like, left wing versus right wing like social media people like the left would just like burn you and then block you and the right wing will like follow you and keep watching your stuff just so they can like call you retarget every video they won't like disengaged they want to like engage and fight you while the left would just be like block and up.
Yeah, I've gotten blocked over the silliest shit just absolutely. Just like not even I wasn't I don't even remember what I said. I misspoke in a tweet right where I forgot I put like do instead of don't or whatever and I got blocked and I was like and I corrected myself after like 30 seconds to like they saw the correction and they still blocked me and I was like okay whatever triggered so we're
your non careful tweeting has created an unsafe space on my timeline block for ya yeah okay, this gender was made based on work made by membership I mean to shape future actions of this board 10 meetings and don't be afraid to speak up you will be more successful than we all contribute to whatever we got to come up with
Yeah, something like that. But But yeah, that's good. That's off the topic optimally. That's fine it's definitely better than what I would wrote
Oh, I see why you're bendy. Okay
no one wants bendy text
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all right. How about that? I basically said the same thing but me that sound weird.
This agenda is a result of our collective rollover membership. It is you for the path ahead for this organization and we urge you to it and your membership. If you are Yeah, that makes sense. When you attend, we will urge you to attend your membership meetings and voice your thoughts without fear our success lies on our collective intellect let us all contribute our ideas, whether it is through unity and thought of actually fine. Yeah, I mean yeah, the I would change. No, actually, I wouldn't change that. Nevermind
I can take this out. It's kind of redundant. The
just leave it highlighted. Yeah. The? Uh, no, I think it's fine the way it is. Yeah. Okay.
All right. Random motivational things that kind of remind you about your responsibilities.
This? Yeah. I, when you originally saying this is not what I thought you meant. But I actually think this is probably a good idea to have a little, like, prefigurative paragraph at the end, like, you know, kind of like encouraging people to engage in like, the society we want to have. And so that the one we have,
yeah, and I think we can always more fit in, like, even if it's just like, we want people to, you know, leave meetings, somehow turn that into kind of like a society in which we're all leaders all bar sounds like yeah, make an income, many speech, but inside of it is the very basic lesson on how the organization works.
All right. Yeah. No, I think I think it's a good idea. Um, it's not too It's okay. Okay, I think this is probably pretty ideal right now, because it's not too long. It basically gets to the point as far as like, the things people need to know to be informed if they come to the meeting, to know there's a meeting in the first place. And then if they want to engage with us more than that, it has all the things that it has things we're going to be doing in the next month or so. And then it has our little the, the always be onboarding thing always be onboarding aibee aibee Oh yeah you know, is there anything else that needs to go on here? No, I think this is about it. Okay.
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I'm done modifying. So you want to put into action at work? Or do you want to like remote control screen or whatever?
Um, you're right. Let me say this real quick so I don't crash my computer. Okay,
I'm going to turn this into a post ASA Harlow post
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let's see
All right, I'm gonna start working on graphics for the agenda should we keep playing? That was another question was I don't really know how Instagram works but like if you go to our page it's just you know, general meeting general meeting general meeting on what to do next. Okay just like archiving the posts after the month is over
Yeah. Or should
we just leave them up as like look at all the activity that happens here I guess we can leave it up
I think maybe make the archive period a little bit longer maybe like three months or so or actually maybe like six months right if we have six months campaign Yeah. We can archive at the end of six months. Okay.
Yeah, cuz I'm not very like informative it's it's like literally we have a meeting
but yeah,
because like it I think it's probably good to be able to go back and look at all the things that we've just done but yeah, we definitely don't like a massive backlog
because it shows people looking like Oh, they've been having meetings for a while
when is our next meeting
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work class unity rapper. Okay, and then the text if I can copy this and it'll just keep all of the links that are in there right. I don't know. Let's find out. Yep.
It might mess with the formatting. I think the paste without paste without formatting. Like the font itself,
it's CTRL SHIFT paste or Ctrl Shift V, right?
Yeah, okay. But I think that also gets rid of the links. I don't think it pays for the links.
Oh, yeah. Yeah. CTRL V paste with the links
or does the font stays the same style that's my concern. It
uses the same font. That what font is this? Yeah, it looks like it's the same font looks it looks the same to me. All right.
First name
I gotta get this RSVP.
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Oh, why does it not look the same?
It isn't same Why doesn't it look the same? Your RSVP thing. Even when I change the HTML it's still so the one from the text looks like the word RSP or looks like the letters RSVP. And then there's like an actual button.
Yeah, no, the one I have in Google bucks is a placeholder like replace it with the
ID it was the thing is I did and it still just looks like the text.
Oh, like the border things gone.
Yeah. Maybe I'm missing the HTML for the border thing.
Was it in the one that you found already one thing I forgot we need to just like separate the code and have it in a Google doc Yeah, the
Google Drive blank Google Docs general meeting Online.
There it is all right
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and then down the bottom
calendar
Yes, okay, all right poram here that looks right. That looks right. That looks right
all right, okay. That's all the new stuff
all right. If we get this out tomorrow, they'll actually give because last month, we did not do a good job notifying people for last week, last last week so Hopefully we can at least get people to show up
let's see Oh, out there I sent myself a lecture who's it?
Okay, yeah just like click on everything RSVP is not supposed to look
you're right it's not it's which is weird because it looked right in the thing
the calendar thing looks right yeah, it's a link I can follow it now that calendar calendar
on the bottom yeah
you no yes yes. Oh, you just can't see it because it's not I'm actually sharing the yeah thing Okay, it looks all the links work I now I gotta figure out why it looks funky
I got a smartphone and it's starting to post workout videos
WELCOME TO YOUR say props they are starting to hold some elected officials accountable. To DSA Oh, Donnelly or something he's like endorse people that were like that were like running against their local chapters endorse candidates. And also just generally like doesn't listen to them and put out this whole like, page long tweet about how this is terrible that they're doing this. And you know, all the progressives are like, How dare you every left person as a friend? And it's like people don't understand the difference between progressive electeds and someone who's actually being subjugated to like, democratic like critiques of their member like of their organization you know? Yeah.
Oh, have you read sorry.
No, no, you're good.
Arrows call
this probably needs a closing carrot like that. All right, so even test let's see if it works now.
Nope, that was not it.
How do you say this name, Beto, Alain Beto theory of the three types of riots like the immediate riot the wait and Riot historical riot
I don't actually know.
Yes, he's just talking about like, you know, you have your immediate right, which I just like localized kind of spontaneous, unorganized, violent protests that don't have an agenda.
Oh, bad BOD you find here
and then Layton because beyond that, we're even if everyone is not politically aligned, but it's things like strikes and boycotts and stuff. And then historical riot, which where you actually have like, a universal purpose that everyone can get behind. Not just people in your group
oh, maybe it's not supposed to have a closing bracket. But then this hasn't closed
while you copy paste because I did probably elfa you can go back and like clone another email if you want like one that worked before and just paste that that's what I had to do it doesn't make sense for me Do you want to send it in a in the texts are thrown into GTP and or decide chested GTP that makes a frame
here like the the one it's just this one thing that's broken I'll show you
okay
perfect I press a press the tribute is not correctly placed within the opening a tag Oh delete that the second thing
yeah but I know it was like even after I got rid of that it still didn't work that's what well the thing is like when I get rid of that then this text editor tells me that the A at the end and the next paragraph we're broken here I'll show you how much
you want to send me like the top half of the page or something are you sending me the whole thing? Maybe there's like a rogue carrier somewhere that's like a fucking shop
once again that's too long. Where can I send it or it's not too far here. I'll put it in this
Alright, put it at the end of the the email thing
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It's what really pisses me off is if this was like 15 years ago, I would have fixed this already.
Kind of on tests I used to make little websites students like now it says a lot faster.
Friggin like when I was in like high school I guess I used to do like I would do so much HTML it was crazy but now I don't like it just it's not like so not important anymore. It used to be like so important to do HTML
okay, it basically said there is removed that and GT at the end of your anchor tag and the
way the What the Where sorry
oh there's dark dark readers in mind. scenes have been added by that dark reader browser extension and are not being your button box we went like you have dark reader in line color equals law that's not
Oh, okay. So any attorney Okay, I gotta turn dark reader off Alright, got it.
And then it removed a and GT semicolon somewhere but I pasted the new code in the chat
Why the fuck did it add that so okay, whatever.
Yeah, added to an editor's
P all right let's save and test that see if it works
Why the focus is highlighted
it depends did you intend to have all of this stuff be highlighted? No.
Just changed RSVP to like bold and
yeah, it also just took Totally deleted the RSVP thing to
Why are you in fucking boxes What the fuck is going on here all right you know what I'm just gonna I'm gonna this is gonna fix this
do a little fix a reno
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okay, so this version of it has an RSVP that works but looks just like the word RSVP and it has the calendars that works so I'm just going to see if that works and if it does I'm gonna send you like that
to schedule it for tomorrow and just make sure it's including only WC Yeah, remember
we're gonna send her this because it looks fucking ugly as shit
okay okay, I wonder if it's good or bad that we have like a nice email formatting who would seem more authentic because like left aligned normal texts
honestly Okay, it looks good to me now this looks like an email that I would read all right okay amazing
all right to get started choose an email list Tags include WC EU members we don't give a shit about any of this other stuff
and then what's the how do you set it to send it a specific time
it might be on the next thing Have you like already calculated the number of people to send it to
no it says preview and send oh yeah
I don't know can I see the screen?
Yeah Which one of my own
if you go down yeah if did go to save preview on Saturday
yes
can you make the sorry the in solidarity thing. Sorry. Should be loved one.
This should be up here.
Now should just be left plot. It looks fine. It looks better that way. Okay. This should be scheduled.
Oh, yeah. Okay schedule and at a specific time. Eastern so this is tomorrow, Friday. At what, like 7am 7am? Or
is it Eastern time? So we want it to be 4am. Eastern.
Yeah, we want yet. No. 10am would be seven here. Because they're later than we are. Oh, yeah. Okay. 10 All right. All right. Oh, you do? I am 10 I am.
And then just to refresh targeting. I'm gonna see if I can add a couple more people who came to really prove mandatory membership list. And that should update the 19.
Do I click Refresh targeting?
No. So I think if you select that, it'll like re up. They'll go through that process again, before it sends it. So bump it up to 21 or whatever. On its own before it sends it out. All right. Awesome. Cool. Thank you for dealing with that. Well,
thank you for teaching me.
We'll figure it out the button stuff next time. Yeah, I
think ideally, we should just have a i. I have our I had dark reader on because it used to be that the Internet didn't give you a
why would it interfere? Well, that's the part that I'm confused. I've
never had to do that before. And I've used like, I've used a bunch of like HTML editors in the past like, it's, this is the only one that's ever done that to you. So yeah, that's, that's fun. Yeah. Anyways,
we should have a I mean, I really don't like, I don't like action networks, email editor. It's like a hot mess.
So it's not.
Yeah, we need. Like if there's a different way to put together the HTML and some other program that we can just cut and paste simpler. That'd be great. But we can bring that out later.
Yeah. Because like, ideally, what we would have is we just have a bunch of like, preset HTML thing saved to a document. And then like, insert, whatever your text is here, basically. Yep. Okay, cool. Thank you. I will talk to you later because I got fucking dinner and chips. Alright, bye.
