easy. A high expectation topically different. Topically different. The minute after I finished I did a pivot episode was oh my god, it's back from his scot free August. So you know, I do four podcasts a week, it's really it's fine. I'm just fine. It's it's good. That's how we want to, you know, code was designed that everybody's a headliner, essentially, some conferences have a headliner, and then a bunch of, you know, lesser, lesser or weaker speakers, or sometimes sponsors, unfortunately. And we just felt that the way we designed it was everybody, it was a kind of a camp Miss for almost every single, right. And then we had these interstitial ones that were great. They were great this year, and we're working on a piece it will be out by the time this airs about code. And it does, it does feel like so many of the conferences you go to the questions are for the people who aren't in the know. And then you know, the, hey, there's the background hanging, but I do think you do such a good job of making the actual interviews feel feel essential. You know, that's how it was started, Walt, and I used to go to a lot of conferences, there were tons of them back then like agenda. And some of them were good, you know, but that most of a lot of it, first of all, was very sponsor driven. And so they were sort of done in this PR kind of way. And they were very light interviews by people who weren't journalists sometimes like, I mean, I like a lot of these technologists, but they really can't be How smart is your brain? How big. And so we're news oriented, you know, people copied us for years, you know, whether lots of different people tried to do different things, post us, including the Wall Street Journal, call this conference, D if you can believe it, because they're so creative, they can't come up with something fresh and new. So you know, we just try it, we just did it. And when we actually changed over the years, too, we didn't keep to the same stuff. We would things didn't work, we change them. But our whole focus is on the audience and what they would like, you know, that's how that's how just like we think about readers, well, maybe there were a number of themes to come out of the conference. But part of the reason I wanted to have you on in like a big one was sort of like Kara's last code. Like, why, you know, why is this sort of the last code and yeah, it had sort of a you know, finality to it. But you've got so many projects like our I don't