be made if you feel that you have a reasonable expectation of acquiring quorum and a reasonable amount of time. So based on what I'm hearing, Mr. Chairman, the motion to recess which is in order, we do it all the time when we don't have a quorum here because we have expectation that a quorum will occur. So the motion to recess is one of the motions that can be made in order in the absence of a quorum. Based on what I'm hearing, a quorum was so reestablished and therefore the meeting was completely valid to the chair. I'm calling for the parliamentarian to review the minutes from the policy subcommittee and also review the online video if it's posted at this point at this time. Well, I mean, I get it that it was well within your right you know, again, but I would just ask you to really inquire like to what it I mean, I don't really know what your because if I if I let you know, that continuing meeting when when there is no quorum and stating it was not it was not a form, what's the Quorum of your committee and so therefore, the burden, what is a quorum for your committee to it would be two. Okay, I love it. Okay. And it will offer the reason for a call for in German as I love mission averted. No meeting Commissioner burger, you've just been made aware that when you left Commissioner Woods arrived, right it was him then arrive and so at Brown 540 655 46. I call for the German at 530. Settle again. We will we will follow your request and actually Dr. Jackson reviewed the minutes of the meeting but again, I don't know to what in you're attempting to accomplish. And again, therefore we're still you have not been recognized. It's hard for you to know who has arrived when you've admitted that you left. Now, if you were still there when the person arrived, and again, that does then speak to a negligence on your part to fulfill your responsibility to serving in that committee if you indeed were there. Okay, but if not, it's hard for you to then account for who was there if your meeting that you were not okay. But we will have there will have you have not been reading up on this point of order you have not been registered point of order, you have not been recognized. So we will answer your request and have those ministry be reviewed. But as we have a very lengthy agenda, I ask that we will move forward with that matter. Is there any further questions for the policy? Yes. I would like to end on a note that I want to applaud. Commissioner Barnard and I want to applaud the University of Michigan Civil Rights Law, the Law School, the Civil Rights department, the ACLU, as well as the chief of police for their great leadership and a person who would have been victimized by the facial recognition a dilemma for coming to the table and creating a policy that is in the best interest for people to city Detroit. Thank you. Are there any further questions or comments through the chair banks? Through the Chair yes. Do the Chair. Mr. Mr. Chairman, we lost at large Roy gamble right? He resigned correct now do it do we do we know when any other commissioners may be replacing him? No. Okay, you know, we have some good commissioners that follow this year board, William Davis, ministerial. Whatever that comment is that you hold it because again, we're speaking particularly on this analysis. No, right? No, no, we still are asked for any further question to share it to the policy committee report. To the chair additional burden, you know, it was 2019 or I raised at this table that what happens when facial recognition misidentified a person of color that doesn't have the resources for good legal defense, and how it criminalizes those that wake up everyday and are already in addition to that, I am the Commissioner that called in the ACLU, the University of Michigan countless times here in Commissioner meetings, countless times have called for, you know, having Wayne State University to weigh in or on policy issues, the ACLU, but also the Arab civil rights lead, also call for that and the policy committee, but we also also call for the National Action Network. Also call for the poverty post hate with Vankleek Thompson, and also community members. I'm the first chairperson of the policy committee to invite the public and to weigh in on our policies and including John Conyers. The second who came here and wrote a pensive a nine page report on our some of our our one of our policy key policies at the time, also brought in a company that's out of Chicago and California is also in California, came here and talked about body worn cameras, and things of that nature addressing a number of our policies. Also, as as you know, as a commissioner, I talked about the techno racism, not being able to identify one black person to another. We still have serious issues here and Americans blackness poor city like Detroit, Michigan, when you have three African Americans that we know of that's been properly that's been mis identified Miss identify by our techno racism facial rec better known as facial recognition. You got a Robert Williams, Michael Bolivar, who slept on a Wayne County Jail floor summit floor and ate breakfast long breath for breakfast, lunch and dinner. You ate bologna sandwiches for a crime he didn't commit. And then you have Portia Whitworth right now in the United States. You have seven people right now that's been misidentified that we know of by facial recognition that's 42.8% Miss identification right here the CDD three out of the seven do the math. If one innocent person is Miss identified that's one too many. Thank you is there any further questions? Commissioner Hernandez? Yeah, thank you so much through the chair. I would just in reference to the actual policy memorandum that was provided to us. I'd like to end this portion of it on a factual note, and actually thank the colleagues who don't walk away when there are pressing items that needs to be addressed. So I think I'll echo my colleagues on the committee who are thanking those who stepped up to the table and actually were there in presence so that the meeting could continue. Anything else is just noise. Thank you. Thank you. Now we're going to chair real quick real brief. You have not been recognized. Five seconds. Mr. Chairman, you have not been recognized Chairman five seconds, and you're out of order you have not been recognized. And now we'll move on to new business. The chair. Is there any new business Chairman, I want to just say oh, you are out of order Commissioner Verdun, you have not been recognized. So, Chairman I'm gonna say real quick. One of the border commissioner on your higher border, you're out of order, Michigan, and for those that cannot officially burden you're out of water. The next number Mitch, your reservoir of water. I have water. Yes. In his race on this mission of burden. You're out of water. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. If I can be recognized or not recognized. We got to move to new business at this time. closed session pursuant to section eight A of the Open Meetings Act MCL 15.2688. The department's request for the Board's consider administrative leave without paper with medical benefits for police officer Caleb Williams badge number 1854 assigned to the fifth precinct. The chair entertain a motion to move is there a second has been properly moved and seconded. Is there any discussion? Hearing no discussion? All those in favor please signify by saying aye. All those opposed, no. The eyes have it. We will take a three minute recess to set the room up. Public. Please be aware we have for closed sessions. So it'd be might be a few back and forth. But I do apologize for any inconvenience. Thank