Yeah, well, ah monkeypox is a disease that was called Monkeypox, because it was first described in monkeys in lab.. laboratory monkeys in Copenhagen at the Statens Serum Institute, in 1958. At that stage, there were no known cases in humans. The first recorded case was a child actually, in the Democratic Republic of Congo, in 1970. And it's a disease that's been almost exclusively seen in Africa until the beginning of this year. So from 1970 onwards, cases were described either in West Africa, in Nigeria and the Cameroo's or in, predominantly, or in Central Africa, predominantly, the DRC, the.. in the Congo, and surrounding countries. And in Africa, it's a disease that really could be quite severe. So mortality of around 3%, in Central Africa, and about 1% in, in West Africa, and a disease that resembles smallpox in some ways. So the people will get a rash that looks a bit like smallpox, they get fevers and chills and muscle aches, headaches, lymph nodes get swollen, so and it's related to smallpox, this virus, and the West was really not interested in this disease much at all. And the disease reporting was difficult because of identifying it politically, and lack of laboratories in some of the endemic plant parts of Africa. And so the West really, you know, typical western fashion, we just said, are African disease, we don't have to worry about it. And then at the beginning of this year, it started spreading. And the spread has been really quite rapid. So for example, I was writing an editorial about this two months ago. And I said, there have been 2000 cases in... described outside Africa, mainly in men who have sex with men, almost exclusively. And there have been eight cases in Australia at that time, two months ago. Since then, the number of cases in the world outside Africa has increased to over 35,000. And the number of cases in Australia is over 100 now. So quite a steady increase. And the World Health Organisation has described this as a public health emergency of international concern, which is not quite a pandemic, but it's sort of a... they didn't want to call it a pandemic, so soon after our last pandemic, but it's, you know, a pandemic means a disease that's spreading around the world. That's one definition of pandemic and it is a pandemic, really, it's just a question of how severe it is. In Europe, and Australia and elsewhere, there have been almost no people who've died from it. So it seems to have different epidem- And it's almost exclusively in men who have sex with men, whereas in Africa, a bit like HIV that's been spread to a wider population than men who have sex with men. And the terminology is very difficult, isn't it, Kathryn? I mean, you're it sounds like you're othering men who have sex with men by saying the rest of the population or what have you. And so, as we talk about this, we have to be very careful about the dangers of homophobia in this and also about the language that we use, I think.