I think we have a huge problem, just like everybody else who's spoken already so beautifully, these last two days. With the reavoice movement, obviously, and you've already been given reasons why the mark er houses and he's not the only one, the mark er houses of this world, have published, research, and have given professional opinions that are hooked up with the American Psychological Association. And I get it, it's good in a sense that we have a religious person there. But I get the owl molars and I get the Russell mores. But I'm telling you what you've heard here this weekend so far is true. It's true. They're not they don't realize it, I'm not judging them. I'm not condemning them, never going to be my job, don't want that job. I'm making a judgment call. That's what I'm doing. And opinion, based on what the Bible really says, and what the truth have, in this case, what goes on in real therapy, that that complements sound biblical principles. And they just don't know, in my opinion, because I've seen this so many times. There's several reasons. They don't want to rock the boat. They don't want to rock the boat, because there without realizing it, interested in being nice. In my opinion, some of the folks aren't dealing with it, because they have family members who are out and gay, or transgender. And it's tough for them to speak the truth when one of their own family members is dealing with these issues. And I think there's another reason as well, well, two more, some of them. I think, in my opinion, I don't mean any of the men that I've just talked about. But some some of these guys probably have some of the same issues that they can't face within themselves. Fixed even knows exactly what I'm talking about. And some of them just can't face the fact that there might be something within the church that's not really going on as it needs to be. That's causing these issues, and they don't have the courage to check it out. I'd be fine almost with somebody who checked out what I do checked out what people like Steven do and others here, checked it all out and still came to their own conclusions. But that's how you know people that there's naive naivety and even bigotry going on within people of faith because they aren't even checking the evidence. That's how you know. That's how CNN does it. They're not interested in real evidence that's unbiased. Even Fox News who does a pretty good job sometimes, you know, we're all imperfect. Sometimes they're bias to, but what's the what's the remedy for that? Compassion and evidence of truth. You've been going several times today to your Bibles. Great That's where the truth is, in the end, folks. I wanted to speak just for a few minutes before I end in the end. I really think of it is I know it's complicated, in a sense, but you know what, it's really not complicated. Because when you leave today, you're going to want to know well, well, what do I do about it? Well, I'm telling you, I'm beginning to tell you, you're gonna hear more later. This entire issue, if you can think about it this way, is all based on only two real things. I'm talking about LGBT grand philosophy, there's only two things that are really the foundation stone of this belief without which the entire system would fall. You've already heard them even though you may not realize that I was born this way. Scientifically, it's genetic, hormonal, epigenetic. There's no evidence for that conclusively. Or the Christian version is God made be this way. And that's where reavoice comes into the picture. That's where the truth is denied right there on that level. God bless them, God bless them truly. But they're not dealing with the wounds that are in the deepest part of their heart, minds and souls. And that's what I do, folks, I get to do that. And there's more just so you know, I don't ask they want spiritual counseling, I can do that. But just so you know, there's more spirituality coming up even about the Bible that happens to come up organically within their own selves in the, in the therapy experiences than I ever knew would come up, but it's there. And I don't go outside of their belief systems. I work within their belief systems, because they're supposed to be in charge of their lives, I'm there to facilitate a growth healing experience that will make the people of faith experience greater growth and healing, and also directly affect their spirituality. And for secular people, I experienced the same, we experienced the same kind of growth in a sense, because God says, It rains upon the just and the unjust. I'm not gonna withdraw my compassion for a gay identified person. Oh, no. And this is why I'm here to tell you something you can do about it, is this. Some of you may not like this, I don't know. I don't know. When you have an LGBT person come in the building, or you meet them on the street, or you meet them wherever you it is, in my opinion, it is safe to assume that who you're really looking at is a lost little boy and little girl, even if they're 65 years old. How do I know that? Because I see it in my office every single week. The wounds are there. In every single time, now I'm waiting for the day, I'm waiting for the day. Because I really do have an open mind. I do that intentionally. I'm waiting for the day when a person with homoerotic feelings, or even transgender for that matter comes in where there has been no trauma in the family. And that's what this is really all about. It's trauma folks. It's really not about sex. It's about trauma. That's it. If you want to know the small version, that's it. So we deal with the trauma. I have never yet come had a client come in, who when you turn the camera around from that, hypersexual gay porn image, who looks who looks on the saying, we're looking at porn, don't get me wrong. Who, who in the therapeutic processes, then turns the camera on himself, his own heart, his own body? He they just feel awful about themselves, because they've been told they're idiots or horrible or disgusting, or unforgivable, which isn't even biblical. That's what they feel like. It happens every single time varying degrees every single time. And the thing that God put in us is a process called the grief process. You'll find it were in the Old Testament, the grief process that secular men figured out, they knew better than even the Bible and they codified it and call it something else, which is fine, that's fine. They can do that. They give them more scientific explanation. That's fine. No problem with that. Who went into major grief? In the Old Testament? Can you think of anybody? David, thank you. The Psalms are filled while other people to the psalms are filled with King David wrenching his soul in she'll. But what happened in those verses? A little bit later on every one of them what happened? He reached out for God, and the grief process which he had to go through, led to God, and His Spirit was rejuvenated. And he depict now some of that is choice faith is a choice. It is. But that's what happens in therapy. When a person removes the shame, which is the number one goal of roadblock, removal and reintegrate of therapy, this uh, you know, is shame removal, now talking about biblical guilt and talking about shame, the inferiority complex, all that junk when he goes into those wounds, and feels and deals with that, and finally gets it all out. And I teach him something about compassion for those who hate themselves. And yes, they're in my office, I hate themselves. But when they move compassionately through grief, the same automatic relief process happens in the office. Now that's actually the old system I'm talking about. I don't have time to go into the new system, which is so much faster. But but I'll get to that maybe sometime later in, in q&a. Because there's something that's happening in the therapeutic industry that is so much quicker. Getting this that's allowing change in emotional change for sexual feelings, you won't believe it, I'll sound like a snake oil salesman to you. But when that person when that boy, young men, older men goes through that grief process, he feels better, feels better about himself. The inferiority tends to be healed, or it's an ongoing process to get there. And then the minute he remembers that porn image, that gay porn image, I've heard it folks I've heard in my office, he said something like,