Welcome back to the show fears fatties and fat allies. So glad to have you here. I decided to cut this episode into two because it got to be so long. So this is part two of listener questions. So, I guess I'll get right into the questions. If you enjoy the show. Donate on cofee. Kayo FYI, link in the show notes link to everything that I'm talking about. will be in the show notes. 4177 and 178. So if you get confused, and they'll just be there a car? Yeah. Okay, let's do it. Next question us. Do you have any advice for finding a primary care provider or an OBGYN? That won't attribute all my problems to fatness? Marielle. Okay, so, if you're looking for an OBGYN in regards to fertility, we've got Nicola salmon fat positive fertility, she has a book, she's got different things. So if that's part of what you're looking for, totally might not be. But there might be help there. Well, not not might be there's 100% of the help there. And she probably has community and resources. But we do have lots of different lists of weight neutral healthcare providers. In the US, unfortunately, it's very US centric. So there's links to like, you know, Mary Lambert, the singer. She's got a whole spreadsheet of providers. That's been contributed what to by different people. We've got one from Christy Harrison, we've got one called fat friendly doctors got another one fat friendly health care providers. We've got a article from self.com how to find a fat friendly doctor. But let me tell you how I do it is any healthcare need. I have, for example, yesterday, I had my ingrown toenail removed, if anyone's thinking about it, if anyone has chronic an ingrown toenail, going through this procedure, because I don't know what do what you want. But if for me, the thought of it was worse than the actual thing by miles. And I'm not really that squeamish, but I went to the to get a pedicure and there was a new person, they said, It's okay for a new person to do you're a trainee to do your feet. And I said, Yeah, no problem. And she cut down into my nail and immediately some ran over and was like, No, don't do that do do that. And I was like, I know what that's gonna turn into. I mean, you know, it's an oxygen, whatever. So for the last 18 months, I've been dealing with chronic ingrown toenail on my on that foot. And so eventually, I looked in, there's a fat club, Vancouver Facebook group, fat club, Vancouver, just searched podiatrist. Actually, I saw Yeah, per diet podiatrist. And we had some recommendations. Now, I'm lucky I live in Vancouver, live in Canada. So Canada, more likely to find people, Vancouver, big city, more likely to find people. So I go by rapid personal recommendations. So you might not have a fat group in your location, you might not be in a city, you might be in some location. That's, you know, there's only one person there. Are there any groups, Facebook groups, you know, like, any Facebook group that's in your location that you can ask a question, hey, does anyone have any experience with and then put like, thanks, I don't need any weight loss advice. You might not get anything. So some people, they might have choices might have to be found for someone with lots of all these resources that we have. Some you might not depending where you are. You can get there some cards called don't weigh me cards, and they are free. There's a link in the show notes don't weigh me cards. And so it says like a business card and it says please don't weigh me unless it's really medically necessary. You can email them beforehand or call them or whatever. I don't know what I said whether whatever carrier pigeon may or whatever, and say, Hey, I don't want my weight discussed on You can take someone with you to act as an advocate, so that they can say, hey, we're not going to be talking about weight, you can decide that you that's not going to work for you. And you might just smile and nod when they say, did you know that you're fat? Have you ever considered weight loss? You know, and so you might be able to find something if you're in the US probably have a better chance of finding people. And even if people are not expressly saying that they're fat positive, they might not mention weight. So if that's the case, tell people to tell someone who has one of these lists. And yeah, I read that article How to find a fat friendly doctor. So next question. Hello, I do have a question. I hope it isn't offensive. I'll try to word it as kindly as possible. I'm wondering, by the way, it's not really offensive. I'm wondering what you think about the suppose correlation between health and beauty. In other words, a person must be healthy to be beautiful. Is this true? In any sense? This is one justification I have seen used at times to claim that fat people are unattractive people will cite biology as an explanation. We live in a world that is obsessed with physical appearance and ties it to our work as human beings. So that message can cause a lot of pain if one is deemed to be ugly. Sorry, if it's weird, and I hope that I hope I worded it clearly. Thank you for taking the time to read if you got this far. Yeah. So in response to this, you know, when someone says I'm not attracted to fat people, because they're unhealthy, and that is a part of my biology, because I'm a man. I'm an Alpha Man. It's just, it's given me what is it? Jordan? Jordan Peterson. And what's another decade that's in jail at the moment? Can't remember his name anyway, dickhead. Yeah, it makes you think what I've got to do, I got to do with it. Well, I'd have got to do who you want to have sex with. Because you cannot look at a fat person and see their health status. Like I don't know if these people have like these magical goggles that it's like, okay, let's do an x ray and MRI and test the blood and lalalalala you know, when they're like, Atlanta says results come back. And it turns out that that first, that person is unhealthy. They don't know anything person, like someone who's straight size, how can they know what their health status is? What I think what they're people are confusing for health is actually bias. Bias. It's based in anti black racism ableism, colonialism, colonialism, etc. Also, if they want someone who is physically fit, can you know, biology because of biology? Well, fat people can do that too. Right? Fat people are Olympians fat people are athletes, fat people are world record breakers. But if you were to ask that same fatphobia would cite biology. Oh, well then is that fat athlete attractive? Then come up with some other some other excuse outside of how are you? No, no, you know why? And I, you know, I'm just you know, I'm, I'm just attracted to it's, it's bullshit. Is is just bias masked as biology. Really. I was watching this about this British boxer, like, called the Gypsy King. I think he's probably quite problematic. But I watched his documentary about him. And if you saw his body type, you'd be like, No, that is not a fit person. You know, if you saw his body type in your fat foam, you would not think twice you just be like, Oh, he's a tall person. But he's like, undefeated world champion boxer something bla bla bla best in the world ever. Lalala and I find it it's funny because he's a lot of his opponents are all like really buff people. And he's just not let's say he's fat. I mean, like, he's obviously a heavy, heavy person, because he's, he's tall and even if he was fat, but if you think about all right world, strongest men, they have huge big tummies right? weightlifters and javelin throwers. And, you know, they're the best at what they're doing. But no, it's not that type of fit that I'm looking for. I'm looking for like, you know, someone who's like a gymnasts you know?