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Being_Fat_And_Unhealthy_-_Is_It_True_That_if_You_Really_Loved_Yourself_Youd_Lose_Weight

Vinny Welsby42min

Speaker 1

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You're listening to the first fatty podcast episode. It's 77 Being fat and unhealthy. Is it true that if you really loved yourself, you'd lose weight? Hmm, question mark. Let's do it. I'm Victoria Welsby TEDx speaker, Best Selling Author and fat activist. I have transformed my life from hating my body with desperately low self esteem to being a courageous and confident fifth party who loves every inch of this jelly. Desire. It teaches us living in a fat body is bad. But what if we spent less time, money and energy on the pursuit of thinness and instead focused on the things that actually matter? Like if pineapple on pizza should be outlawed? Or if the mullet was the greatest haircut of the 20th century? So how do you stop a negative beliefs about your fat body controlling your life? It's the first fatty podcast let's begin someone is outside cleaning something power washing something so hopefully you can't hear that noise too much. And welcome to this episode 70 So on to swans a swimming is not seven seven is this one this woman was yeah to sponsors women. Bingo galling. Can't wait to get to ATA to fat lady sir. Do you do that in North America? Bingo. Do you have the legs? 11 doors next door? I don't know that as well. But whatever. Yeah, so how's life? Well, there's no question why are you not responding? Rude? I'll ask you a question. How are y'all? Well, I'm fine. Thank you. Thanks for asking. This week I've been quite busy and getting poked and prodded with things I got a vaccination, not COVID So sad. So sad about it. But the the HPV vaccination I got I got the first one like years ago and i Something must have happened in my brain where I just was like, I don't understand because I only got one when you're gonna have three. And I was like, I think I think but then I realized that I actually need three so I'm starting again with the thing takes six months to get all three so anyway, I got my HPV vaccine first of three and then I got my yearly physical at the doctor Well, I I called in as I need to get ready to get a PAP booked in a PAP in in the UK is called a smear smear test, which is the worst word smear like come on. Now. Pap is better because pap is I don't even know what perhaps danceable but it sounds better than smooth. Yeah, so the guy was like, Oh, do you want to get your yearly physical done. And I was like, I've never had a yearly physical before. So let's do it. I don't even know what is involved. Turns out, it's just exactly what happens when I go to the doctor anyway. Because I have hypothyroidism and low iron and things like that I get my blood work taken all the time. So it's just like getting a blood pressure. And because I'm on the pill, I get my blood pressure taken anyway, getting your blood work and your blood pressure. And then he was like, well, physically, I need to know your height and your weight. And I was like, thank you. I can tell you what my height is. And he's like, Yeah, we need to know your weight as well. And I was like, No, thank you. And he's like, Oh, it's a part of the physical. And I was like, No, thank you. And he's like, Okay, I said, I'm five, seven. He's I read it on his piece of paper and then walked away. And I was like, that's the first time in first time have I had that doctor's? Yeah, that's the first time I've had to say no, thank you doing wait. So that's what the yearly physical is is, is I guess, being weighed. And so I had it in my head, or they might ask away me. And I thought, am I going to educate them in the moment? And I thought, I'll see how it goes. Because if he was like, but we need it, I would say

Speaker 1

04:37

I have a history of disordered eating and an eating disorder and weighing me would be bad for my mental health. And then if if they pressed anymore, I would say health weight is not an indicator of health. If I need to, if we need my weight to calculate medication doses, dosages, then that is absolutely fine. But as a general screening, it's not necessary. So I had that all prepared. And then I went and got and then I went, I got my blood pressure. And my heart was beating because of that. And it listen, I do this, this is my job right talking about this stuff. And having a very pleasant, no, thank you. I'd say no, thank you twice. A very pleasant No, thank you. And then he just said, okay, and then walked away. That caused my heart is not beating. And so then when I got my blood pressure done, what are the numbers was too high? And I was just about to get my pap, and she's and she's like, Oh, that that other number is a bit high. And I said it couldn't be due to stress. And she's like, well, yes, you are sat on the bed with no clothes and just a paper gown about to have a pap. So yeah, and I was thinking, yeah, and I also had to deny being weighed, and I didn't know how the doctor was going to act. I didn't know if the doctor was gonna, you know, kick down the door to the exam room and be like, Bitch, give us your weight. Why are you telling us your weight? Get out, you know. So my heart was just beating faster than normal. And so anyway, so I have to go back in a couple of weeks to get my blood pressure taken again, because hopefully, I wouldn't be as stressed. I could just feel my heart beating. And I was like, Victoria. Your heart's beating fast right now, because you're feeling stress. So I want you to take some deep breaths and relax. Because it's going to make the blood pressure reading go off. And then my brain was like, Oh, you want me to relax? I'll show you fucking relax. Baba, Baba Baba. doing the opposite. So yeah, but I've had that before where I've had to go back and because I've been stressed going into the doctors. And so I want to extend massive empathy for those of you who are doing this stuff at the doctor's going and deny and say no thank you to being weighed, because it's, it's difficult and it's kind of sometimes it might be better for your mental health. Just to be like, I'll be way but don't tell me the weight. Because that act of saying no, it's stressful. So anyway, so I've got my I've got my my pap, if you've not got a PAP and you own a uterus, then I suggest you go in. It's it's not a big deal. I was watching the videos last night even though I had my pap like, a week ago, I was watching videos about the procedure and shit like that, because I was like, I just want to know more. And because you went when you go in, well, what I've gone in, I've had maybe five, perhaps six, perhaps in my life. You don't you just you just do the thing. And you don't see all the magical equipment that they use, not that there's loads of equipment, but it's pretty easy, like in and out like this woman did it on, filmed her getting hers and it took 44 seconds for them to perform the whole procedure. So it's not that at that big a deal, really. But it can be very stressful for people. And a lot of people don't go in because of that fear. And I really want to encourage you to go if you have a uterus if you haven't already, because it's really good at preventing bad shit from happening. 10 years ago, I got I had a pap, and it was I had an abnormal abnormal results. And I had precancerous cells. And they just had to watch it. And it went away, which was cool. But sometimes, and that was I was age 26. When that happened. And in the UK, you get your first pap at 25. I don't know about the rest of the world, but it's still just because you're young. Or if you've had the HPV vaccine, it doesn't mean that you're not at risk of, you know, an abnormal result. And the HPV vaccine, I learned now it protects you from nine strains of HPV. And there's actually 90 strains but the nine strains they protect you from other most dangerous, the most the highest risk to cause cancer and other things that you don't want. But they're still even if you have the HPV vaccine, some people apparently think, oh, because I've had the vaccine, I can't get cervical cancer. And that ain't true. So anyway,

Speaker 1

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it's fine. Like, do you know what it's like? It's like, it's like, getting the COVID test. Someone's sticking something like deep inside that you're like, I don't like this. It's kind of uncomfortable, but it's done in a second and oh, I didn't whoo hoo, hoo. I felt weird. Kind of like that. It'd be like if someone put their finger in your ear, and you'd like I just don't like that. It didn't feel Good, but I, you know, and obviously everyone has has has a different reaction anyway. So I also was at the doctor's because I am in the process, been in the process for the last year of seeking criminal compensation for my sexual assault and abuse at the hands of my ex partner. Now, in the UK, if you're a victim of a violent crime, it has to be a violent crime, maybe just a crime, a violent crime. If you're a victim of violent crime, you the UK government, the government gave you compensation. I never knew this. And so I was like, Oh, if that so I'm going to apply to get compensation. But because it's been more than a few years since I made my last report to the police, because I went back to the UK to report that he had raped me. And that was maybe 567 years ago. And so from that day, I had I think it was a couple of years to make the record. And so now I'm having to demonstrate that the that I couldn't at the time, make the report. And I do that through my doctor's records. And it's and so I've got all my doctor's records from just from one doctor, I need to get them from another doctor. And I was reading through so interesting. Some of the things that they write, I'm like, what, like, one of the reports is that she's dressed well, like what the fuck is that got to do anything? I'm, I'm dressed. Well, this is weird. That's so weird to read that anyway, as I'm reading all my things, and there was this one thing, I'm like, giving you all of my medical history right now, in this episode, I'm like, 77. So I had had to I have OBS, right. And in the process of diagnosing my IBS, I did go to a gastroenterologist. And as we know, the letters that gastroenterologist wrote to my GP, and she was saying things like, Oh, I've told Victoria to not eat this. And we've tried this diet and that diet, and she's vegan at the time I was vegan. And she does everything I tell her and there's no change to her symptoms. And so we've put the tube up a bomb, and in our mouth, you know what, that's what I was that cool. What is that called? Anyway, chip at the bottom of the mountain put the camera they have an endoscope or something like that. Anyway. Do you look the bum in the mouth had a look took some biopsies? See if there's anything wrong in there? No, there's nothing. So conclusion. Lose some weight. I always like and the last thing the last thing is, you know, she's done all of these things. We've done all these investigations. I told Victoria to lose weight. And I don't remember this. So obviously, that part of a didn't traumatize me. I remember the after effects like I remember at that time, I was dieting now I'm like, now I realize why. Because obviously she said that you have to lose weight. And you know, I was doing lots of weeks where I was like not eating this and not eating that and blah, blah. And like now I'm reading it. I'm like, I'm so mad because at the time I was Fuck, I don't know, like they could they don't know what it is. So they've done all these investigations. And so they just like, try not being fat. How about that? As well. I was I was I was pretty small. I was like a small fat at the time. Still fat, but it's like what, what, why? Whatever do what you what evidence you're a specialist in this area. And all you can say is do this is to lose weight. What does that got to do with anything? Like me, man, and it's so unethical, like lose weight. Okay. How do you do that then? Oh, no study ever once produced in the history of the world that shows any method of weight loss is effective for only a small portion of people.

Speaker 1

14:13

Oh, so. So yeah. So all this has got me thinking all this has got me thinking about our journeys into loving and accepting our bodies and the health thing is such a big sticky thing. Such a big thing and I see it time and time again. People are not able to accept their bodies because of something that's going on with their health or how they feel in their body. And they say well, I can't really go all in with loving my body because I still want to lose weight. I shared something on Instagram I made a an image. I'll link to it in the show notes and it's it's the unlearning fat phobia and body hate journey. So I shared that a little sort of six steps of what it is, let me read out the steps and you can you can think in your brain where you're at, and how how this is connected to what we're talking to today. So the unlearning fatphobia and body hate journey number one, step one, believe most, if not all, fat bodies are unhealthy, unattractive, unworthy. Number two, catalyst slash event which reveals body hate isn't sustainable, begin to explore fat politics slash weight science. Number three. Step three, intellectually understands that fat people can be healthy, attractive, and worthy, still hold some problematic beliefs. Number four, finds lots of fat people attractive but not their own fat body, letting go of health ism and the five begins to appreciate like or even love their own fat body. And number six, understand and embody the reality that the issue was never to do with fatness, but with power and oppression. So a lot of people get stuck at number three and number four, which is intellectually understands fat people can be healthy, attractive, and why they still hold problematic beliefs. And number four, finds lots of fat people attractive but not their own fat body, beginning to let go of health ism. So health ism, and then the other problematic beliefs is is is is a lot of what I'm talking about here is the the idea that it's okay to love your body. But I can't love my body because XYZ and a lot of times that XYZ is because I just don't like the way it feels to be fat. And I need to lose weight because something some reason or health condition or whatever. And this is really highlighted. So I have a Facebook group, a private Facebook group, it's called first party friends, you can find that link in the show notes to join. And I share lots of different things in there. And one of the things I shared is a quote from a longer blog post, and the quote is intentionally losing weight is the opposite of body positivity. So that was a quote, and then underneath is a whole kind of what does that mean exactly. So again, it's intentionally losing weight is the opposite of body positivity. So in a nutshell, what I'm talking about there is body positivity is a political movement created to uplift, fat people increase fat rights and visibility and all that type of stuff. And intentionally losing weight means that you buy into the idea that one, there is a weight, there is a diet that works to that you will gain health by losing weight. And the instead of trying to become more healthy at the weight you are three you're in the act of erasing a fat body. And for it's just it's got nothing to do with body positivity. Like, hey, we have a political movement that says it's okay to be fair, and we should uplift that people. And losing weight is which is, is the opposite. It's just the opposite is the opposite. It's like say if you were in a I love conflicts club, okay, I love conflicts club. And then when you go home, you're like yeah, I'm the number one member of the I love conflicts club. You're out campaigning to remove conflicts from the world and and you hate conflicts yourself and you refuse to have conflicts in your house and

Speaker 1

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you think they're disgusting. Well, what is zippers, everything's just go to the you know, I love cereal club if you're a cereal fan, but you hate cornflakes that you know, it's just, you know, it's just not the right thing because a lot of people think because of how a lot of people portray body positivity. A lot of people think body positivity is loving your body. Loving your body and body positivity are two separate concepts. You can love your body and not be positive body positive. You can be body positive and not love your body. They're two separate things. But a positive is a political movement. And it's all about the rights of fat people, marginalized bodies and loving your body is about love and your body. So anyway, I put this quote intentionally losing weight is the opposite of body positivity and By the way, the word intentionally is important there as well. Because sometimes our bodies, we lose weight we go my, you know, it's just what our bodies does, but it's when we are being like, right, I need to become thin, like going on a diet. Okay, so a lot of people said, I don't agree with this, because if you really loved yourself, you'd lose weight. And I was like, that's the brakes button on there. And I was like, What the fuck? How are these people in my group? And also, okay, I need to lay out some ground rules here. And also, this is interesting, because people are stumbling at this. Yeah, I love myself. That's why I want to lose weight because I love myself. Fucking diet culture bullshit. Motherfuckers companies co opting this will if you love yourself, your body positive. So you want to No, no, no, no. No. Well, I guess you know, so. I mean, some people that is true, right? If you loved yourself, I love myself, so I'm going to lose weight. And I, you know, I say is true with like, a big kind of like is this really comes from a lot of like dieting just comes from a lot of negative self hating, fat hating, oppression, bullshit. So is it coming from a place of light and love and fairies and flowers? I don't think so anyway, so I had to write a post, I had to, I wanted to write a post to pin at the top of the groups so that whenever people come in, because sometimes people come in, and they've and I always presume everyone's listened to the podcast, everyone has been on my Instagram. Everyone knows who I am. And they come into the group, but there could be people. And I have screening questions. I have screening questions to get in. There could be people that have just seen me two minutes ago. And they presume, oh, this is a weight loss group or, or, or some island? No, they just they don't know what I'm about. So I've pinned a post at the top of the group to make sure the everyone's in agreeance. And if you're not, I don't want you in the group because I don't want any, we have rules in the group. Like you can't use the O word you can't talk about how you're a fat piece of shit. And you know, you can't say things to her others and all sorts of different rules were not 1000 rules, but basically don't be a dick and hurt other people. But anyway, so this is a post. I want to clarify the beliefs of this group so that we're all on the same page. First one, there is no reliable way to lose weight. Not one single study has ever been published to show any way to reduce our size for any more than a tiny percentage of people long term. If you want to lose weight for quote unquote health reasons, this doesn't mean weight loss will magically work for you.

Speaker 1

23:20

Next one, saying it's okay to be fat as long as you're healthy is problematic. This is health ism and playing into the quote unquote good fatty trope. Next, the O words and I've written out what they are in uncensored them. Their words are slurs, if you use if you use them in the group, then you must censor them like I have here. And then next one is health is a social construct. It is a very complicated issue. And there are many factors that make up someone's quote unquote health status, including things like access to health care, socio economic status, race, education level, amount of weight, stigma, experienced, etc. Next, straight size people can get the same health issues as fat people. Seeing as we know weight loss doesn't work, then seeking to improve health issues outside of focusing on weight is probably going to have the most helpful outcome. If you have issues with any of the above, then this is probably not the right place for you. I will not tolerate the continued conflation of weight and health example. I love myself therefore I'm going to lose weight to be healthy. The idea that you have to be healthy to be a quote unquote good fatty the use of uncensored Oh words, moralizing health. Not everyone can be healthy. Not everyone wants to be healthy. Some people really like focusing on improving their health. Some people want to focus on proving their mental health. All of these are morally equal. Again, if you have issues with any of the above, then this is probably not the right place for you. So the reason why I'm telling you all this is is to kind of untangle that, that that health thing, that health thing, I'm not going to tell you what to do with your body. Sometimes, people need to do that one last diet to prove to themselves. But yeah, dieting is not the right path for me. Or they could be in that tiny percentage that is like loses weight, and has no real effects and runs off into the sunset, in the arms of their hunky lover, you know, who knows, chances are is going to be the first unfortunately, and then you can run into the arms of this into the arms of your hunky lover into a sunset as a fat person, or as a person who doesn't lie. So in some ways that, you know, going on a diet could be helpful for some people. Because it could get them to a place where they're like, Okay, well, I'm going to try and work out how to overcome how I'm feeling. But it's a risky thing to partake in. And if we can get you to a place where you don't potentially have to harm your physical and mental health to understand diets is diets are bullshit, then that is probably the better route. But, you know, sometimes you people just got to learn, right? And so when people are like, No, I just need to die. I'm just like, Go Go for it, you know, if that's if that's what you feel like you need to do, then maybe it is, you know, you you do what you want with your body. But also, if you're interested to hear it, here are some other things to consider. So some things I want to consider about this idea, if you loved yourself, then you would go on a diet or, you know, if I you know that stumbling block block off. But I I want to lose weight for for this quote unquote good reason. I don't want to lose weight, because I want to look sexy, I want to lose weight, because I want to run around with my kids. And I want to be able to touch my toes and tie my shoelaces and I want to improve this health condition that I'm living with. And if you want to be healthy, like gray, of course many people do. Many people want to live a long and happy life. And that's a normal desire. That doesn't make some you know, if that is you, that doesn't make you morally superior. If that's not you, that doesn't make you morally inferior. And also, as I mentioned, in that post, not everyone can be healthy. That's first thing if you want to be healthy, that's normal. And the second thing is, it's not your fault if you have a fat body. And if you're unhealthy, it's not something that you need to blame yourself for either. The shame that you're feeling can have dramatic negative effects on your physical and mental health. So all of that shame, we just need to work on get rid of get it getting rid of it, because it's not helpful.

Speaker 1

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Number three, no matter the reason for wanting to lose weight, your body responds the same way. So it's not like your body is like, Huh? Well, finally, this bitch is doing a diet because she wants to be healthy because she wants to run a marathon because she wants to whatever. Well now I'm going to listen to her and I'm gonna become really thin and healthy. And she's finally got the memo. Not like before, she was trying to lose weight because she wanted to be sexy for her husband. But your body doesn't need body. Unfortunately, our bodies are really fucking smart. But you know, it's not going to be like, Oh, this time the restriction. The restriction is all about loving yourself. In that case, I'm just going to go against everything that I want to do in life that is your body and become anything you want. It doesn't know doesn't matter if the stats are the same. 95 to 98% of people don't succeed at diets. There's no evidence to show that we can make our body smaller in the long term. And the maximum maximum efficacy rate of a diet is 5%. So imagine if your doctor gave you a pill and said, hey, hey, take these pills. There are some, you know, potentially deadly side effects. Don't worry about those because there's a 5% chance you might temporarily lose the five cent chance Max but you know, you could be actually two or three people end up fatter after taking the pill. But there's a 5% chance you might lose weight, but two out of three people actually put on more weight after the pill. Two out of three, yeah, yeah, that's 66% of people 66% of people where there's a 5% chance, give a schism a mother of nothing. And depending on your size, the bigger you are, for bigger people. For the fatter people, there's a naught point naught 8% chance for a bigger person to become smaller, long term. So if you are fatter, the chances of you becoming smaller was slim. Pan there, but I didn't mean to do it. It's not, it's not likely. And if you do diet, then chances are two out of three people will be bigger than they started out. And 90% of people display 90% of people who are on a diet display symptoms of an eating disorder while on a diet. And we know I've said in an episode about a couple of episodes, again, the harmful effects of weight cycling, which is yo yo dieting, and a lot of the effects of yo yo dieting are the similar effects that we see in people with higher weight. Things like elevated blood pressure and higher risk of certain things. And that can be put down to weight cycling, it's just not good for us, it will not good for our physical or mental health. So sometimes you'll see anecdotal evidence, maybe in yourself or in others, that when they lose weight, or when you lose weight, when you've lost weight in the past, your condition is better seems to improve. And here's the here's like two sides of that is, maybe if you have a smaller body, you're able to do things like tie your shoelace laces, because you have less adipose tissue, like that's, that's just like a physical thing, there's less of you, there's less of you to move around to get to your laces. That's that's just a fact. Right? So losing weight could help with being able to do something like you know, mobility, temporarily. And then chances are that you will become bigger than before. And so actually, it's worse for mobility, if it's literally just your body's in the way of you performing a task. And the other side is of this is when people engage in in dieting, what they often do is engage in things like physical activity, improving their strength, their stamina,

Speaker 1

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eating a variety of foods. Now, these things independent of weight loss, are beneficial to our health. And so if we take that take out the goal of weight loss, which studies have done that we take out a goal of weight loss, it shows that health promoting activities are way more sustainable, versus if we put weight loss in there as well. And so if two people one was had the same, was eating a variety of foods was moving their body was not smoking, you know, whatever. And the same person was doing the exact same thing. But also their goal was to lose weight. That person whose goal is to lose weight will stop the the health promoting behaviors way quicker than the one just doing it just because they want to improve their health. Because weight loss doesn't work. And when the person B sees I'm doing all this stuff, I'm not losing weight anymore, I might have at the beginning, but not anymore. Fuck it, it's not working with Person A they're not looking at the way they can see that actually, if I try and improve my stamina or my strength. Turns out my stamina and strength improves, you know, because they're not looking at the number on the scale. And they're looking at what they can do with their body or how they feel when they certain foods. Then they can see the results. And they can say, Oh, wow, this is great. And this is working. But if they were looking at the way on the scale, they'd be like this is not working. So you might have that anecdotal evidence of when I'm when I have a smaller body, I just feel better. Well, what are you doing? And also, do you feel better just because it's nicer to be in society? When you have a smaller body? There's lots of things going on there. So if you really loved yourself, you would lose weight. I don't know if that is true. In fact, I'm pretty sure it's not true because The to really like if you love yourself, if you love yourself, you you will do you wouldn't try and do what's best for yourself through a lens of compassion? And is it compassionate towards yourself to diet? My answer to that is No. Not really, because it's harmful to my physical and mental health and it doesn't make doesn't make me it doesn't make me thinner or better. And even if it did make me thinner, which is very, very unlikely. That doesn't improve myself love. A lot of times people on diets, their self love, or self esteem, or body satisfaction levels go down, because they're so focused on their body, what it looks like. So if you still feel like you need to die it because you have a health condition. These are the six things I want you to know. One, if you want to be healthy, that's totally normal doesn't make you a bad person. Many people want to be healthy. But we also need to recognize that not everyone can be healthy and focusing on health, physical health too much and not focusing on mental health or focusing on health in general, too much can be problematic and unhealthy. It's not your fault if you have a fat body, and it's not your fault, if you have any type of health condition. And shaming yourself for that is is going to probably have negative impacts on you. And no matter the reason for wanting to lose weight, your body responds in the same way. So we know these numbers 95 to 98% of diets fail, and it doesn't matter if you want to lose weight because it just feels better to be smaller, or you have a health condition, or your doctor told you those stats remain exactly the same. Two thirds of people who go on a diet will gain more weight than they started with 90% of people who are on a diet display eating disorder,

Speaker 1

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symptoms of eating disorder. And depending on your size, the higher weight that you are, you have a naught point naught 8% chance of becoming small and staying that way. So it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if you want to become smaller because you want to run after your kids or you want to be more athletic or you want to live longer. There's simply no way to become smaller. But there are ways to become healthy. And if we focus on our health, outside of our weight, we are way more likely to maintain those health promoting behaviors that we could engage in. And so a lot of times, you will have that anecdotal evidence of when I was smaller, I felt better. Well, my question to you is, what were you doing when you were smaller? Were you moving in a certain way? Were you being outside more? Were you was your mental health improved? Like what else were you doing? At that time that made you feel better, and potentially doing those things outside of trying to lose weight is going to make you feel the same way. So explore that. And if you are in that stumbling block of I just I can't move to that, you know, in that, that that? Unlearning fatphobia and body hate journey steps. I can't move from three four to five and five which is begins to appreciate like or even love your own fat body and number six is understand and embody the reality that the issue was never to do with retinas with, but with power and oppression. It could be the health thing. And also it could be that that you're in Constant Learner effect in Constant Learner mode, and that you're not taking action and that you were doing things like learning, learning, learning, and you're not doing doing doing so they could be the things that are keeping you stuck. So Alright, well thank y'all for hanging out with me today. And I will see you on Oh, hang on. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Don't go yet. Don't you go? Yeah, reminder. Go and sign up for The How to Love Your Body Challenge facebook.com forward slash challenge. How to love your fat body be in all the photos, ditch the boring clothes and stop pulling down your top to hide your belly. Yeah, we have a challenge. It's gonna be amazing. It's happening on Moray, the pull up my calendar, may the May the third May the third and it's gonna be a mother. It's March right now and I'm already working on it so she know that she is going to be good. So because I know they sign up, it's free. And facebook.com forward slash challenge. You can find the link in the show notes. And I'll see you next time. Okay, now you can go Alright, I got that back there thanks for listening to the episode and if you feel ready to get serious about this work and want to know when the doors open to fears fattier Academy which is my signature program, where I teach all about how to overcome your fat phobic believes and learn to love your fat body, then go to first fatty.com forward slash waitlist again that is phase fatty.com. Forward slash waitlist to get your name on the waitlist. For when first fatty Academy my signature program opens

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