Because at this property didn't have a barn, I knew that I was gonna be like a huge expense on my end. And it's something that like, I did this on my own like didn't have the support of or didn't have the help of like my husband to help me with that. It's just like this is my business. This is the expense. So but just to help with some of those expenses. I know I've done a few fundraisers, Little Caesars, like the pizza making kits, I've done cards for a cause where you get like 30 cards and sell like just different fundraisers just to help with some of those expenses. Because of no reimbursement rates moving, everything's kind of been stagnant. I've been in private practice for 10 years now, and haven't seen any movements with the insurance. So just kind of helping with some of those additional expenses, because it is a lot of expenses to incorporate the horses, but it's a passion of mine. And so I know I had to take that hit, but knew that it was totally worth it for my clients and and the families to not just the clients. So there are no additional reimbursements for your type of therapy are there? No, because so hippotherapy is just a tool, like just as if we were to use an exercise ball or a trampoline. So let's just speak, I'm billing for just speech therapy. But just utilizing the movement of horses is what hippotherapy and that's where sometimes there's like a misconception to have like people thinking like, oh, you're a hippotherapist. And it's like, no. And that's where just the semantics of it gets a little confusing, because it's not a standalone therapy. It's just a tool, Elizabeth. So the reason why I asked you on today is because if our fixers have been paying attention, I announced earlier this week, that you approach NPR, with some of what's going on in your area, and got us out into the media. So I wanted to know about what propelled you to do that, and have you tell us what your process was. So if other people want to do that, too, they kind of know what to do. After ASHA, raise their rates. I saw some a comments of like, we need to take this to the media. What do we need to do? How can we do this? And originally to I was like, Yeah, I need to reach out. But like thinking more broader of like more national news, how can we do this, but I know that's, that might be a little bit harder, just because maybe these national news networks aren't going to pick up on a story. But then I was like, oh, light bulb moment, my friend. And I'm going to shout him out Jason crew gear. He is the morning host edition for our local NPR station. So I emailed him. So that was like February 10. I reached out to him. I was like, Hey, I think we have a story, kind of give him a little bit of a rundown. And he follows my speech therapy page. So he kind of knew. And a couple days later, he reached back out, he's like, I know someone that can help us. He was an education reporter. So he gave me his contact information. So I reached out to him, kind of give him more rundown and like, because of all the work, Jeanette that you and Meghan did, like you laid that groundwork for me to have like, to be confident of like, this is a story. This is a case. How can we get this out to not just SLPs? How can we get it out to the public? And so, um yeah, so I reached out to him, he responded right away. He was like, yes, like, I'm super passionate about all the things in Illinois that we're going through, especially with early intervention. And like no reimbursement rates are just no movements, and that all those problems. So originally, when I reached out to him, I was like, I want to go anonymous, because of fear. And I think maybe that's what a lot of us are kind of going through or maybe by maybe a lot of people aren't reaching out to local networks or nationally, there is fear. You don't want your job in jeopardy. But then I slept on it. And I was like, this needs to be told, I work for myself, I can't fire myself. So I don't know where the repercussions are gonna be. But it needs to be told. And so then I was like, Yes, I want to go on record. And I reached out to a couple of my other friends. So shout out to Audrey Meyers, Bethany Rasmussen, Candice Grudowski. And I reached out to you, Jeanette. And I feel like that kind of helps get like a stronger story, because I'm not just told my story. But it told the stories of SLPs that are leaving the field. And that's the reality. And we can't be sugarcoating this like it's happening because of just our work conditions. So really grateful for my friends that also went on record with him. We met about a week later after we kind of talked, we talked about an hour and I kind of again gave him all the statistics that you gave him. I was also doing my own research on just everything the financials of ASHA things that were just like this seems sketchy. Like there's just shifty stuff happening. Especially, I found this depressing A while ago, but like the the land and building financial part of Asha, like millions and millions of dollars going to land like where's this land? What are you doing with this land? How are we benefiting from this land so so yeah, it just it was really great to talk with him about everything that research that you guys have done what I have done just talking with other speech therapists in the field. And then he was reaching out to all the other speech therapists. And then about a month later he came out to my farm, he just wanted to see the day of the life of a speech therapist, what is involved, he was only here for an hour, but talking about just everything that we all have to do every single day, especially as a small business owner, I do it all, I don't have any admin just trying to get through the day with seeing clients billing, and then trying to advocate for ourselves. And so it's, it was great that he was able to come get some recordings here. And then came out with the story about a month later. And so that was kind of the process that I took. And I'm really glad that I at least got a story started because this is just a local story, this hits. So if anyone's familiar with Illinois, it's just like about an hour west. And then an hour north of Illinois of Chicago is like the listening coverage area. And he wanted to just talk to Illinois speech therapist. So like, yes, it's just focused on Illinois. Obviously, all the things that were happening in Illinois is happening nationally. So how can we get this out to a wider listening area, but at least we have a story that we can share to get that out to a wider listening area.