Yeah, no, absolutely. Look, I think it's, it's so simple, but powerful, being a good listener, is is vital. And if someone starts disclosing something that's happened at work, or it might not even be at work, it might be in education, or another area of public life, just listening to what they're saying. And with our experience with sexual harassment in particular, there are so many different forms and types of sexual harassment, unwelcome conduct of a sexual nature is broad, it could be physical touching, like in Dinara's case, it could be sexist comments, or it could be suggestions or innuendo or, or banter that really crosses a line in terms of making the person offended and, and just listening without judgement and trying to encourage the person to, to tell their story and to tell, tell it had the pace that they want as well, it might be sometimes that the individual starts telling you a bit and then says, I want to talk to you about this later, and just giving them that space to confide and encouraging them to access all the support available. So often, I know, social workers have many hats, but you know, counselling is always always there for for clients, whether that be through full stop Australia, they have free counselling, you know, one 800 respects there, or, you know, through Victim Services counsellors, or their GP can refer them to a mental health plan, encouraging the person to get help, even initially, in that context, as well as then supporting them to get that legal advice they need and, and being practical and saying, "there are options available. I don't know, I might not know the law. But I've heard of a centre available, Legal Aid's available or you know, if you can afford it, there is private practitioners around listening and providing that wraparound support."