Board of Police Commissioners - Evening Community Meeting

    11:30PM Dec 14, 2023

    Speakers:

    Jim Holley

    Commissioner Bernard

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    grass. I have no problem with that at all.

    Thank you Mr. Chair. Chairperson Quantis Presley submitted an excused absence Vice Chair Jim Holly present. Commissioner Tamar Liberty Smith,

    present.

    Commissioner Linda Renard attorney

    Linda Barnard district to welcome everyone. Happy Holidays present.

    Commissioner Cedric banks Commissioner Willie Bell Rosen district for Commissioner Willie Burton. Commissioner Lisa Carter missioner Ricardo more. Commissioner Hastings Hernandez missioner Bray gamble present Mr. Chair you have seven commissioners present

    doesn't mean I have a quorum.

    That's correct. You have a quorum Mr. Chair and then just as a point of the agenda, there's approval of minutes for the closed sessions on December 7 there to both sessions would you like to have those minutes considered for approval?

    If you don't mind Move approval. Second. Any objections? Hearing none, all in favor say aye. Aye. opposes that the minister did be so done. Thank you so much. Was it another one another set? Did it take care of all of that bound chair?

    There were two closed sessions if the right Oracle vote on both please. Move approval. Second.

    Just pop it and move the second. Any objections? You know, objections will basically also adopt those. All in favor say aye. Aye. Oh says so have it thank you so much, Madam Chairperson. Madam Secretary. At this time if you don't mind this, move forward with the introductions. Thank

    you, Mr. Chair for BLP staff today we have present Chief Investigator Jerome Warfield, acting board attorney Stephanie LaBelle. is present on Zoom. Miss Teresa blossom, Miss Jones Underwood, Miss Candace Hayes are American Sign Language interpreters. We have Miss toI and Miss jamika DPD HR director Katrina Pattillo. Don handy side is our court reporter. Lucas Nielsen and Anthony James are providing video and Sergeant Alan Cohen is providing audio cine and for the chief today we have Deputy Chief Franklin Hayes are elected officials and representatives. We have Miss Murray overall from state representative Tyrone Carter's office, Mr. Don Davis from city council member Fred Hall, the third office, former Commissioner William Davis, Mr. De Butler, community relations president for second precinct, and Mr. Ron Thomas DPLA. Vice President.

    Thank you so much. Soon, one that we missed you please let the secretary know. We thank all of you been here. As we know this is a busy time of the season. And we want to let you note how grateful we are for your presence not only in person, but also by way of video and zoom. At this time, I've asked the Gwen binding Who's the oldest overseer of this facility. Oh Considine rock Baptist Church Recreation Center.

    Good evening, everybody. My name is Glen Bindi and I'm the director of the Considine Little Rock Family Life Center. We want to welcome you all once again the Detroit Board of Commissioners to the cancer time we appreciate you using a facility Miss blossom has been a joy to work with in coordinating this. Some of the things that we do here at the Constantine This is a jewel that almost 20 years ago, Reverend Holly saved when the city came and closed our recreation centers. And he didn't want a boarded up buildings sitting next to the church. So he negotiated with the city that said we'll take it and we took it. That's correct. And we have sustained it. It has the city parks and recreations name on the building but you best believe we have taken care of this building, the historic Little Rock Baptist Church and the Reverend Dr. Jim Holly and the community. So we thank you all for that. For those of you that have worked in this district, our commanders or officers who have watched over us We thank you some of the things that we do in this building currently, are we have house to adult drop in centers, north in village and harvest retreat. We also had imagined health care that is coming new, a new tenant that's coming to our building that will help our children with autism. They are coming in to help DPS as well as our community with our children who are so undiagnosed or so later diagnosed with these learning disabilities. They're not bad. They're not stupid. They just need to do it a different way. I'm a parent of a child with ADHD. He tested for the entire DPS district in the fifth grade and in the sixth grade I thought I was going to have to kill him because he was failing. And I didn't know why. Until I did my research. I didn't think I needed to know that because he was an okay kid, average kid. There was nothing that showed me. He had this disability but we have that in our building as well. Wayne County community district and their GED program is still in our building. We as well our housing jumpstart, which is something through the city for job placement. We have it at the those without a GED as well as those who have acquired their high school diploma and getting them job ready to go out into the community and be employed. So we do a lot of things here. We thank Reverend Holliday for his vision to keep this drill. This is a massive building. Most people come in here and don't even realize what it entails. We have two gyms. We have an Olympic swimming pool. We have a four lane bowling alley. We have seven racquetball rooms. We have a weight training room, we have what you are sitting in which we consider our auditorium for those of you that grew up like me, this used to be a gym a Toria and it had little pullout seats that came but we done some work in here. We have the atrium and we do a lot of things with our community. The building is still accessible with the community, the Reverend Jim Holly residence. We work with the Detroit area of the aging so that we can bring not only our young people into a safe environment, but our seniors into a safe environment as well. We are partnering with WC three in their silver curriculum so that we can bring some of that learning into the building and that these affordable housing units that are going up with our seniors they can find a safe haven here at the Constantine Little Rock Family Life Center. I thank you for your time and I welcome you once again. And don't let this be the last time you come in here. Thank you.

    Thank you. Thank you so much for inviting me. Thank you very much and again, we think off for the rest of you as well. Commissioners, we have one more board meeting for this year. Yay. So we need to adopt a meeting scheduled for 2024. There are two options that you have with your package. And you need to choose one of those options that's in your package. And I need a motion if you've had an opportunity to just five which which counter Do you want to use a OB?

    Staff Mr. Chairman are your recommendations

    they ask in Madam Secretary, if you would please. What was very close to what we've been doing in the past which one ARB

    through the chair. Option B. Oregon with a meeting schedule organized by the precincts is closely aligned to the schedule that has been followed this past year 2023 And then Option A is an option that organizes the community meetings by district under each Commissioner.

    This case, this case the chair will recognize the Mrs. Otter motion.

    Mr. Chair, I would move that we the board adopts option B the precinct model that we have been following for a number of years Okay,

    so I can support

    or right into discussion. In no discussion I've been moving and second to prove 2020 for the LPC counter for option B. All in favor say Aye Aye. Aye was that I say that into record show that as Avid, we thank you so much for your for your support with that as well. Commissioner Burton, this is part of your district. So you have a lot of work on the agenda here. One is the resolution for Dr. Willie White. And then also we certificate to certificate President appreciation and also for a another set of propitiation so you have the floor.

    Thank you is this time we aren't aren't resolutions now or later on? I

    like what you're doing now if you don't mind. First of all, I want to recognize that you have your present and also commissioner and as well that the record showed both of you are here. So I'd like for you to if you feel ready to do that. Now I'd like for you to do it now. Sure.

    Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I'm so honored to be here over in the third present. district five actually has three and seven and share 10 but also share the third present with my colleague. To my right is the honorable Lisa Carter. And so we have done a lot of work in his district in this precinct for many years. I remember when I first came Warren it was a decade ago, her and I was talking about adopting a park. But we didn't quite get a chance to do that yet but hopefully never know what the future brings. Right, Commissioner. Right. And so we was looking at something in the third precinct area. But this this is this is definitely home to Commissioner Carter and myself. And and we love with this with this preset has been doing over the years. And I move on to

    resolution. Resolution

    is Dr. Willie White is present

    Yes For

    us

    it's good to see you Dr. Willie White.

    Okay, so we have a resolution honoring Dr. Willie White. Whereas, Willie White, Dr. Willie White has dedicated his lifelong career in education, educating the youth within the community. He has a year garden service to community and wanted to do so at a deeper level. Many of the issues faced by students are rooted in trauma sensitive triggers that are in our society. To that end, Dr. White personal experience are liable to the students population that facilitates and allows him to service those. The students perform community outreach activities that includes assistant Gleaners and other nonprofit organizations. And whereas Will Dr. Willie White graduate from Eastern Michigan University with a degree in and health administration's Bachelor's Degree in Public Administration masters additionally, Dr. Willie White Kings Park fellow graduate with Wayne State University and a doctorate in education, Educational Research and Evaluation whereas he his career in education, commenced his substance teachers with Detroit Public Schools. He received teacher's certification and pilots and political science, social science and health education while teaching at the Detroit Public Schools hashtag High School during his tenure at at Cass Technical High School. Many of his students were among the highest achievers of the state of Michigan. Social Studies meet as emanation. He also was the department head of social studies at Henry Ford High School where he was in a mess, very instrumental and developing programs that increase that increased a student's school social studies MEAP scores for four consecutive years. He's also the principal right now at Franklin Douglas High School right here in the district, where she'll say in the present but also the district. So therefore it be resolved that the Detroit board of police commissioners speaking on behalf of the citizens of the great city of Detroit recognize and honor lifelong contribution and commitment to excellence and public service of Dr. Willie White. His display of unwavering Waveland community spirit has improved the quality of life for the citizens of each raid. We thank you and congratulate you.

    Let's give Dr. White a big hand if you don't mind.

    Make them make a motion to approve this resolution second.

    discussion all in favor say aye. Aye. opposes that guys have it and sending adopted at the white you have a sense of resume and and and I mean, we just want you to know how thankful we are your commitment to the city and also for education in particular. So if you'd like to have a couple of words you may do so at this particular time.

    Thank you for your service. You know that the resolution we have we received from Dr. Willie White was much better much longer than what we have here. But this is a great resolution for great honorable noble man and pillar to this community. I love and admire the work that he's doing. With students not only in Franklin Douglas but across the great state of Michigan. Those meet scores that he helped implement a program to help look help him improve those scores. And is remarkable. I mean, you know, the work he's done at Cass tech the work he's done, Mr. Live the king I forgot to mention that. That was in the resolution I received from you. I believe he was the assistant principal

    at King. So let him talk then we'll never tell it. We'll let

    you shoot. Yes, thank you.

    But thank you so much, Commissioner.

    I like to thank everyone for this award being bestowed upon me. I've worked in Detroit Public Schools. I'm also a student of Detroit public schools I attended Scholtz elementary Beaubien MURRAY Right. Went on teacher cast tech. That's where I first started teaching. I taught a caste system principle at Henry Ford. Martin Luther King principle. Now currently at Frederick Douglass, I've been in the district on a number of roles and I believe that my calling was working with the young men, having taught young ladies and things of that nature, but sometimes, you know, your route is chosen for you. And I believe that working with the young man was my calling. I was just talking with Commissioner banks. And he said to me when he walked in, he said, You look familiar. And when we look familiar, I said what high school did you attend? And he told me, Cody, I said, you know my cousin. And after we started talking he said what happened to him and we both know what happened to me. So did he go to jail for murder? I say yes, he did. And so, you know, do you though some of the impediments that we have to learning in our community, and some of the young men they come from all over the city, and they also are faced with those impediments. And they have to learn how to navigate through it. And so sometime you're experienced as a young man and as a as a child in Detroit. You're able to impart knowledge on them so that they can navigate and become successful. And so that's what our main goal is for the young man as we work at Frederick Douglass, which is now next door to you in the north. We were in Murray right for a while but they moved us this year to Northern and we appreciate the opportunity. We appreciate being on the North End and having an opportunity to and also that Gleaners. The young men came out and volunteered with Little Rock Band ice church, right? We sent them out there. We saw you guys doing that. It teaches them to have an ethic of care. So that's our main goal. I'm not going to talk I'll talk all day. So I'm gonna cut it short and tell you all that I appreciate this opportunity. And they do understand that the police are vital to their safety. And they also taught to respect the officers of the law as well. So again, thank you for this resolution and opportunity to speak on behalf of Frederick Douglass Academy for Young men and

    we appreciate you very much Thank you sir ma'am. Mr. Bern, you have another appreciation piece. Yes,

    Mr. Commissioner, say commissioners. And, Mr. Chairman, is Miss Aiyana Henderson is available. She's Yeah,

    absolutely. You can take it up there too, if you want to admission. Sure. Pick both from up if you'd like to do it from there

    and then can you enter into into chief deputy chief who pitches where if you don't mind? So

    we got we got this ticket appreciation for the work outstanding work that Miss Aiyana Henderson began

    like for me if you don't mind

    does every year and throughout the year. We call her Miss major. I'm gonna let her explain to you why we all call her Miss major in our community. And but, more importantly, she's really working with a great group of young guys over at Franklin Douglas High School. It's just the work that she brings. Is this is this remarkable and so I'm happy that we as a board acknowledging some some great individuals here in a present therapy sandwich is Miss Henderson, Dr. Willie White and then when I read this third one later, but I want to turn it over to Miss Henderson so she can give a few remarks as well. So this is the day that we honor. You know, members from our present but members for our community. Thank you.

    Thank you.

    Thank you for this opportunity. I have the pleasure and privilege to work for Dr. White. I've been with him since 2017. He's a great man, compassionate. It's a great opportunity. I retired from the United States Army after 24 years of service 24 years, eight months, 15 days. It was a great opportunity. I was charged to come back to my city after a discussion in one of my advanced courses. Our city had taken a hit and one of my co workers, Antonio Martin major Martin, he said you should go back home. And that's exactly what I did. I retired June 1 August 22. I was sitting in Frederick Douglass High School and I never left. Thank you Dr. White for this opportunity to serve my city. I live right here in the 10th. I grew up in the north end. I graduated from Hutchins middle school, so it's good to be back home. Very

    good. Thank you take the patients with the vision and represent all of us. Okay

    Let's give her another big hand. If you don't mind. Mr. Sure.

    The next certificate appreciation we got to acknowledge this Miss Kiana Davis as she's here on a Davis Davis

    here

    she owns zoom. Or she in person. No.

    You can go and make the room. Okay. So

    we have a certificate appreciation for her for the outstanding work that she's doing. She's been having different panel discussions across the city. For a number of years talking about different challenges talking about mental health, fortunately was I want to say maybe a month ago or something or or a month and a half ago, I had opportunity to serve on one of her panels in the city and we had one of the guys from the Detroit Lions former lions player. That was also part of that panel. And it was a great discussion. It was very informational for the community. But she's been doing these all of these panel discussions for for for a number of years and bring it out in the community in just educating the community on mental health and what we can do together as a community but also how to eliminate that stigma. So today you know, the Detroit board of police commissioners has a certificate appreciation for her for her work. That she's doing, making a difference in our community. Thank

    you so much. Thank you so much. Thank you, Mr. Wood. Thank you, Commissioner for recognizing these people. They're doing a great work in the community. We thank you as well. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. At this time that the agenda calls for a community impact report

    through the chair Jerome Warfield representing the Office of the Chief Investigator, our report is regarding our investigations can do in the month of November, and the mission and some of you on our reports are certainly on the back table if you haven't gotten gotten one but there are a hand there are handouts of the PowerPoint presentation that we're going over. The mission of the Office of the Chief Investigator is to fairly effectively and objectively receive investigate and make recommendations regarding complaints concerning the Detroit Police Department and his personnel. It is the goal of OCI to assist in improving the quality of law enforcement services by instilling citizen confidence in the integrity of the Detroit Police Department. We want to start off by looking at our overall numbers for the month of November. As relates to the open cases that we have, we have 1436 open cases in our office. Our cases that are between zero and 90 days. have decreased to 424. Our H cases are 1012 which has went up slightly when we look at those cases that are close versus those cases that are submitted and the actual staffing that we have on our investigative team. And we have our supervisors who leave their teams. And the thing that we see here is that we are for the month of November. We only had 12 Investigators inside of OCI with three supervisors. And still were able to close and or submit 78 cases and I do want to explain what it means to submit case. Once the investigator actually writes their findings. They submit their cases to their supervising investigator for review. The supervisor investigator then will review their case and then return it for corrections or we'll send it on to our quality assurance reviewers. And our quality assurance reviewers will take a much more in depth look at the case and then after they do that. They will either make recommendations for corrections or send it to my desk once it gets to my desk. I'll review it myself. And if I see things that needs to be corrected, it'll go back for correction or it'll go on to the board. And so that number of 78 cases represents the workload of all of the cases that have been touched and reviewed by the investigators in our office. The next slide deals with the 2023 receipts versus closing versus staffing. And as you can see there in the month of November, we had 149 Citizen concern we play complaints come into our office of those 149 complaints. We do not have those but we actually close 44 complaints again, with a total staff of 12 investigators. The good thing is we have hired four additional investigators that we'll start on January the eighth and then we're posting to hire seven additional investigators besides the four that will start early next year. Our budgeted staff of investigators is 18 and our monthly close rate for November and you can see it right there is 2.4 cases a month. And our weekly closure rate was point six. A number of our investigators had gone to Chicago for the Neko Conference, which is why our closure rate took somewhat of a little bit dip because we were gone for a week in Chicago. When we look at the total allegations that we receive, again, we had 149 citizen complaints, but we had a total of 357 allegations to investigate. And we investigate every allegation that come into our office. And as you can see by the chart that's in front of you 70% of our allegations deal with demeanor, procedure and service as relates to procedure. One of the things that we're seeing good trending in is body worn camera footage, violations. And so we'll talk about that a little bit a little bit later. But we're also seeing a little bit of an uptick as relates to language and some of the complaints that citizens are filing as results to how they officers demeanor has been. Next slide please. The next slide breaks out the allegations by precinct and by unit and you have all the numbers there in front of you. And this helps us look at the trends that we're seeing in the various precinct and in the other command level units that are out there. And and you can see there just by those numbers that are highlighted, you know where we're getting the bulk of our citizen complaint reports from and those units and those precincts that are not reporting many allegations at all. Next slide. This slide is very important, because it deals with the number of complaints that come in versus the number of complaints that have been sustained. And when we say sustained basically those are the allegations that based on the facts of the investigation reaches the or matches the preponderance of the evidence that has been shown do that fact finding to show that the allegation did occur, and in the month of November, we had an uptick and sustain allegations to 20%. In October it was 9% but in November went up to 20% primarily because of body worn camera footage. And what we're seeing is we have officers that are either not turning their cameras on when they're on a scene interacting with citizens or they're turning their cameras off before the scene is cleared. And of course both of those are against policy. And certainly we use this as a measure to pass it along to disciplinary Norther that messages may be sent. That that is a great trend that we're seeing as the complaints are coming in the next slide is allegations versus close. And we we track this from January all the way through November. And you can see the trends there from January of 2022 all the way through November of 2023 again, and you can see that in the month of November 20% of our allegations closed as sustained cases which is which is fairly significant. If you if you look at the numbers prior to that next slide. That's all I have are there any questions?

    This time the chair or ask Commissioner Indes you have a question for people I see. Oh, Commissioner Burton question.

    No, not at this time Mr. Chair.

    Mr. Bale wish to Carter. Commissioner Smith. Well, sir, Commissioner banks,

    yes, right here. Chief Warfield you're doing a good job holding those officers accountable with the body worn camera. Thumbs Up to

    you Thank you, Commissioner. Welcome.

    Is that it? Commissioner? That's your question. That's it. All right, Commissioner. Roy gamble.

    No questions.

    Thank you so much. Let me I know this like my um please forgive me. Commissioner Bernardo saga. These forgive me? No,

    just quickly, if in fact they if in fact the the body cams and dash cams and so forth, are cut off. There needs to be some sort of sanction for that I know that the board voted that some time ago that if in fact a officer turned off their body cam or dash cam before the conclusion of the incident, then the incident would automatically be sustained in favor of the citizen. And I just like you to report back on that not now, but at a future meeting regarding what's happening with that resolution, which was passed by the board. And thank you, again,

    apologize to you, Commissioner Bernard. Mr. Warfield, I know this is my life meeting or near my last meeting. It tears up being a commissioner, but I really like to think that if you could think about it, the first of the year, have some type of plan of how you're going to get these complaints down. You know, how are we going to be able to just a plan where you people can come together and just see what we can do to get these complaints a little bit better, or even better, what you're already doing. The other thing I would be concerned about as well. And that is, if we get complaints from the citizens then what are we doing to get the points to the police officers? And then are we measuring that as to whether we have an SSS in in the in the concerns that citizens have regards to demeanor particular Am I making sense to you? Yes, sir.

    That was one of the things that we are doing through the chair, one of the things that we're doing for all of those cases that are sustained we pass those cases to the disciplinary into the chief's office, and they issue the disciplinary. They didn't they issued the disciplinary on their on their behalf, but we do track we absolutely track all of as you can see, in some of the slides of the presentation. We track all of the numbers to try and keep the trend numbers so so that the department knows what those trends are as well. Very good.

    Thank you so much. Thank you.

    Let's wait. I don't mean to cut you off. Mission and Bernard. Just Just quickly, just on on on that point, Mr. Chairman, when the board has created a policy that says that video cams and dash cams should remain on throughout the entire encounter. If that does not occur, then there should be some sanction with respect to that if I walk into an operating room, and I have not washed my hands and put on my on my gloves is that that's the problem. So we have to deal with each issue in just that manner. The policy means something, it has to have teeth, and if I can violate it and go into the operating room without washing my hands and when I put in all my gloves, then I will do that. So that's why we have to be very strict in terms of adherence to this policy, in my view.

    Your your comments. Still note it. Commissioner breaks. Did you have something else?

    Yes, yes, I did. To the Chair. Mr. Chair you we got we got to keep in mind too. That Oh, I see is seven investigators short. Okay. Okay. He's this man has seven investigators short.

    Okay. I guess you smiling. Okay.

    You know, your goal, his goal should be his goal should be for the first to hear to get the cases down. Yeah, I agree with that. That's true. But keep in mind this man has seven investigators short too. That's a lot of power.

    Thank you said you don't have thank you for reminding me Commissioner banks at this times. Deputy Chief you own your own front.

    Thank you honorable chair. Certainly to this body. And those that are in attendance, both virtually. And in person. greetings on behalf of the Detroit Police Department. My name is Franklin Hayes, Deputy Chief of crime strategies Bureau and like to share with you what's going on here I microphone.

    The better. Yeah, thanks. Sorry. And like

    to share with you what's going on here with the police department staffing. We currently have one member disabled and recovering at home from an on duty injury. And that was because of an incident that he was involved on on August 11 2023. At approximately midnight, where he responded to a police run where he was fired upon by a suspect struck him in the leg. He's still recovering from that surgery. He's had several surgeries and is currently now in physical therapy. We ask that you certainly keep him positive thoughts whether they be through well wishes or prayer as he is on the road to recovery and has stated his full intention to get back out and continue to serve this community. Sharing some crime data. Certainly favorable numbers as we look to reduce violence here in our city. Just want to share a couple categories in homicides. In 2022 year to date, we had 288 homicides. This year we are at 237 that's reflective of an 18% increase or 51. Less victims of homicide in our community are non fatal shootings. Last year, year to date we had 914. This year we are at year to date we are at 777 which is reflective of a 15% decrease or 137 Less non fatal shooting victims combining those numbers 188 less victims of gun violence in 2023 Compared to 2022 So we are continuing to encourage better decision making and through partnerships. We have certainly a level set for accountability if you choose to use the gun here in our community. This is the results again of those partnership and that work to drive violence down a robberies we had 1345 last year. Year to date this year. We are at 1330 15 Less robberies and are carjackings, last year year to date we had 245 This year we have 146 I'm sorry 156 That is 91 less victims of carjacking. Here in our city, which is reflective of 36% decrease. One of the other areas that we are working on is response to those in the mental health community or that special population that certainly needs services. Well we understand that mental health is not a crime, but it does require help. And from that through our partnerships with D win and so many other organizations we are getting those that make the call the help that they so at times desperately, desperately need just to share some stats here to date for calls for service or service calls for service and our mental nonviolent category. Last year we had 3102 This year we are at 3435 for mental violent armed last year we had 1452 year to date calls for service. This year we are 1717 mental violent not aren't 5383 last year 5735 This year, suicide in progress. Last year we had 1433 calls for service. This year we are at 1609 and suicide threats last year year to date. We were at 2809 this year we are 2800 into just those grand totals for those numbers in comparison in 2022. There were 14,179 calls for service with the mental health Nexus this year. We are at 15,298. So over 1100 more calls. We will continue to serve this community and leveraging any relationship and partner we have again to get those in need the services that they certainly deserve to have just wanted to share some significant updates. The first being that investigation updated on a fatal stabbing. The Samantha wall case certainly made waves through the community as far as the tragic stabbing and just as an update detectives from the homicide section developed information on a possible suspect and on Wednesday, November 8. suspect was arrested and questioned for the incident. As you know the suspect was eventually released release pending a further investigation. Our detectives continue and developed information on possibly another suspect. And on Saturday, December 9. A suspect was arrested in question regarding the incident. Yesterday, December 12. A warrant was submitted to the Wayne County prosecutor's office and today the suspect was arraigned in 36. District Court on the following charges homicide, felony murder, home invasion and lying to a peace officer. The subject is being held at Wayne County jail with no bond I want to share another incident that happened on our west side. This this past Saturday, where officers were dispatched to the 16,000 block of Greenfield for a shooting involving a five year old male officers responded to the scene and observed the victim being loaded into the rear of a Medic Unit with a gunshot wound to the head. The victim was conveyed to Sinai Grace hospital where he was pronounced deceased upon arrival to Texas from child abuse and homicide as well as CPS responded to this location to investigate further. It was determined that the victim along with five the other children ages two months, four years old, seven years old and eight years old. were left alone in the apartment with an unsecured handgun by the parents who are outside repairing their vehicle. Children were in a room playing when the victim discovered the weapon and accidentally shot himself. The parents were arrested and conveyed to the Detroit detention center. The children were turned over to Child Protective Services, who then place the children with other family members. On Monday, December 11. homicide detectives submitted a warrant to the Wayne County prosecutor's office for review and the parents were arraigned in 36. District Court on Tuesday December 12 and charged with the following crimes. The mother was charged with homicide, manslaughter and voluntarily child abuse second degree three counts, weapons felony firearms four counts. The father was charged with homicide manslaughter involuntary child abuse second degree three counts weapons firearms possession by a felon and weapons felony firearm four counts. both subjects

    are being held in the Wayne County jail on a $250,000 personal bond I want to share some more positive news as to what's going on here with the police department starting this past from December 7 until December 6 16. Several Detroit police precincts will be participating in distributing gifts for the Detroit good fellows program. The Detroit Police Department in good fellows have a relationship that has lasted over 100 years, with the department playing an essential role in distributing the gifts each year. On Friday, December 8 Chief white distributed good fellow boxes along with Fire Commissioner Charles Sims and Wayne County Sheriff raffia Washington. The seventh precinct will be having a community Christmas party on Wednesday, December 13. Oh, that happened. And it was hosted again for the community at Sacred Heart Catholic Church. Today chief white reinstated three officers who are returning to the police department. Officer Adam Beverley is returning from the Burton Police Department. Officer Lizzie to Parrish is returning from retirement. And officer Hussein Majid is returning after months of caring for a family member. This afternoon at 5pm 12 precinct officers join families for of the community for shopping with a hero. These 15 families will participate by bringing their children to the Meijer located at 1301. East I'm sorry 1301 Eight Mile Road to shop with the police officer. Officers will buy the children's toys and other desired items for Christmas. This event is sponsored by Meijer. As a shared last week with the resolution for commander Brian Harris who was retiring after 25 years of service. His retirement coffee and cake will occur tomorrow at AB Ford Recreation Center at 100 Lenox Street in Detroit here from 11am to 2pm. Commissioners sure the retiring commander would be honored if your schedule will allow to be present at the event. The seventh precinct movie Day is tomorrow where they will host their inaugural Christmas movie day for seniors. The event will occur from 12pm to 3pm at the Ralph Bunche cooperative park located at 2781 large street here on the city's east side. And our Sergeant Santa's donations extension. Friday December 15. The Detroit Police Department will stop accepting donations for Sergeant Santa donors are asked to bring toys, games and clothing for youth ages zero to 16 years old. The donation bins are located at the third and fifth floors of Detroit Public Safety headquarters. Mr. Chairman, that is my chiefs report and I will do my best to answer any questions that you have any questions that I'm not able to provide. At this moment, I will expeditiously get you a response. Thank you for thank you so much deputy for you. It's always a very thoughtful and very informative and we appreciate it very much at this time. Commissioner Bernard Do you have a question for the deputy? Chairman, good Commissioner. Gamble. Do you have a question for the deputy? Commissioner? Excuse me. No, go ahead.

    I have one question, though. In regards to the five year olds fatal shooting, what was that weapon? illegal weapon was an unregistered stolen or was the status of a weapon

    through the chair based on the felony firearms charges that are associated with this, it is my assumption that that weapon was illegally possessed. If I find out something to the contrary, I will certainly update you.

    Thank you.

    Commissioner banks.

    I'm all set.

    Thank you. Commissioner Smith.

    No, sorry. Thank

    you. Michelle Carter. Commissioner. bail.

    Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I don't have a question for you, Deputy Chief. But I just want to echo what the Wayne County prosecutor came word he said at a press conference along with Chief white and other she just gave outstanding recognition to the homicide division of Detroit Police Department in my opinion, it is one of the toughest job that you can appeal in this department and do a net sometime to get onto this particular case. They got to look criticism, but basically they want to do it right, legally unconstitutional, and that's what they did. But it's up to now in the Wayne County prosecutor to review those facts and go forward. I just want to come in homicide division, all the men and women that work in that section. Thank you.

    Thank you, Commissioner Bell. Commissioner Burton.

    Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and

    at this time, a commissioner Hernandez. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Deputy Chief. I'm a little caught off guard here. Do we make the DUA ask for the appointments to to be certified by the commissioners or does it? Deputy Chief give us the the recommendations. How do I how do we do that? It turns the department's of the day the through the Chair. Yes. Typically

    the deputy chief in this case would provide the recommendation for us to adopt.

    Okay, thank you so much Commissioner handing this time don't if you want to make the recommendations to the appointments that that Chief White House.

    Yes, sir. Mr. Chair with great honor. I'd like to start by introducing Captain Javon Johnson, who has served the Detroit Police Department for 24 years as a police officer. He was assigned to the 10 precinct and the Southwest District patrol operations. As a sergeant he worked as a patrol supervisor in the central district special events and the sixth precinct. Upon motion to Lieutenant Captain Johnson serve, I'm sorry, was assigned to the 12 pre St. Investigative operations and the Office of the Chief of Police. Following his appointment as Captain Captain Johnson served in the 10th precinct, the Special Victims Unit and the 11th precinct. He currently serves as commanding officer of downtown services. Captain Johnson has a master's degree in interdisciplinary science and technology from Eastern Michigan University, a master's degree in business administration from Wayne State University, and a Bachelor of Arts degree in political science pre law from Michigan State University. Very good, along with Captain Johnson's education and accomplishments as a Detroit Police Executive. He has led the Special Victims Unit through the changeover and lens reporting. He served as the frontline command officer during the George Floyd riots for over 100 days. He was involved in planning and managing the country's most extensive COVID 19 vaccination program, which administered approximately 5000 vaccinations per day. Additionally, Captain Johnson serves as a member of the department's uniform committee, the probationary evaluation board, the specialty court liaison with 36 District Court and the Detroit command Officers Association as treasurer and the Detroit Human Trafficking Task Force led by Councilwoman Whitfield Callaway, Mr. Chair with great honor, I'd like to present to you Chief White's recommendation for the appointment to commander Captain Javon Johnson.

    Hey, man. You know, I've been here five years. And I remember voting you to captain. So you I mean, you moving on up is Jeff as we say moving on up. And congratulations to I mean, that's you give us give us a lot of hope. enrichers there. Thank you so much for chair recognize. Yeah,

    I'll make a motion to that effect. Go right there for a second.

    All in favor, say aye. Aye. That has been the knees No nays. Congratulations, my friend. Thank you, Mr. You're the commander you need at least give me 60 seconds of thanks to the chief and all that kind of stuff. You know,

    thank you for the opportunity. That's fair. I really appreciate the chief recognize me and give me this opportunity. I honestly truly every day, thank God for the opportunity to be a Detroit police officer and do everything I can to give the citizens 100% and I will use this elevation that you have allowed me to have to spread that influence to the department on a daily basis.

    Thank you know, congratulations again. Deputy Chief sir

    Mr. Chair, Captain Lawrence Purefoy has served the Detroit Police Department for 27 years as a police officer he served at the ninth precinct as a patrol officer Community Relations Officer and environmental officer. In addition, Officer Purefoy served as the officer in charge of the ninth precinct ministation. Upon his promotion to Sergeant he was assigned to the Southwest District and the 10 precinct where he served as a patrol supervisor following his promotion to Lieutenant Captain Purefoy was assigned to the Metropolitan division, where he served as the officer in charge of the mobile field force unit. The city wide summer parks detail the Tactical Operations Section. Captain Purefoy is currently assigned to the ninth precinct where he oversees patrol operations the detective unit ceasefire and special operations Captain Purefoy has studied at Cameron University, Wayne County Community College, the University of Phoenix and the Community College of the Air Force. He is currently pursuing a bachelor's degree in business administration at Clara University after serving in the United States Army, the Army Reserves and the Michigan National Guard for 24 years. Captain Purefoy has retired from military service. Mr. Chair with great honor, I'd like to present to you Chief White's recommendation or commander Captain Lawrence pure

    for thank you so much. Commissioners

    fell moved back

    up to move in a second. We are in his discussion here no discussion all in. All commissioners say aye aye. Oh, this,

    Mr. Chairman, I just thank you for your service to our country. Yeah, American servicemen service not only our country, but our community as well as the entire world. Thank you very, very, very much.

    Thank you so much.

    Thank you all thank you for the opportunity for the trusting in me to become the commander of ninth precinct and lead the men and women of Detroit, the police department into our future. Again, thank the chief deputy chief, our board. Again, I appreciate this opportunity and it was my pleasure to serve for the 24 years and seven months where she for the United States military. Again, thank you for the opportunity. No

    it could be thank thank you and congratulate you as well. Thank you. Thank you so much. Deputy Chief

    Mr. Chair, Lieutenant Nathan Duda had served the Detroit Police Department for over 25 years. During his tenure as a police officer. He served at the 12 precinct and patrol operations, Special Operations and community relations. When Lieutenant Duda was promoted to sergeant he was assigned to the investigative Operations Unit has investigative assignments as a sergeant include the seventh precinct detective unit burglary unit, the central, non fatal shooting team of the Criminal Investigations Unit, the investigative Operations Division of non fatal shooting team and the 11 precinct investigative Operations Unit. Upon his promotion to Lieutenant he was assigned to the fifth precinct investigative Operations Unit, where he managed the non fatal robbery, assault, burglary and general assignment to teams. In addition, Lieutenant Duda has managed domestic violence sex crimes, child abuse, elder abuse and the Sexual Assault Kit initiative. Currently, Lieutenant Duda is assigned to the eighth precinct where he manages the special operation ceasefire initiative and patrol operations among his academic pursuits. Lieutenant Duda has attended Louisiana State University Academy of counterterrorism, Eastern Michigan University's leadership training and basic detective school, University of Detroit Mercy's report writing and investigation school, Oakland Community College's Business Management Program, and Wayne County Community College's criminal justice law enforcement administration program. Lieutenant dude is currently pursuing a bachelor's degree in business administration at Clara University. Mr. Chair with great honor, I would like to present to you Chief White's recommendation for Captain Lieutenant Nathan Duda.

    So moved.

    Nice been properly moved in second. And I really like your personality. I really do. I think you were really born for this we're there to do your job. Domina. Let's watch you know that. I'm really happy to be acted as chairman and in this New York emotion. When I come back, the next mayor will want me to be a commissioner. I look for you to be commander in about two years. Okay. Look at for you to be commander.

    Yes. We take advantage of a photo ops photo op with the two commanders and the captain. Could

    we vote first

    let me get him in at first. All are all the Commission's I'll say aye. Aye. All oppose. Certainly. Commissioner Bernard will say something commanders

    but I want to make a note to our to our community. The man to my left, Reverend Jim Holley took it on his own initiative nearly a year ago now. To go in to Ukraine. I moved to Poland, which is right next to Ukraine, where we were fighting a fierce war with Russia. And he took full Amin loathing and all kinds of containers of stuff, where the people for Poland and for the persons who were being evacuated from Ukraine. Captain Duda is Ukrainian and he has also has dual citizenship with the United States of America and with our neighbor, Canada. And so his parents were born there. He's lost several of his family members of so forth there. His father, as I understand it, is here now Praise God. But I just want you to know that our chairman took it on his own at his own expense and his own initiative to go and try to help the people in Poland who and the people who from Ukraine who were evacuating themselves, obviously from from Ukraine and from the war torn country. So I think that not only I'd like to Chairman to take this picture, if you don't mind with with these gentlemen, particularly, obviously with these gentlemen who are obviously being promoted, but also because our own board leadership has has shown courage and he went to a war torn country. Nobody else went number one on his board, nobody went he went and and he showed his own courage with obviously, Captain dudas family as well as the rest of the the other Americans who are serving in that part of the world. So if we don't mind can we please stand up and give these gentlemen a standing ovation

    oh thank you

    we weren't even sure to Jim. Holly was gonna come back but he made it. Lord was with him

    I guess the Lord is always with you. Any good. God is good, right? All the time. And Jim had the courage

    give them all a big hand if you don't mind. This Underwood org. All communications is

    Mr. Chair before we move on to our communications for the sake of the record and for the minutes can we just confirm which commissioner made the motion? This last motion for the coming

    out cat our mission tomorrow and the second? Commissioner Mendez.

    Thank you Mr. Chair.

    This time all communications how many we have this. Mr.

    Chair. We have seven speakers. Okay, I'll start with those that are present in the room. The first speaker will be Miss Smith. The second speaker will be Mr. James Ford, and the third speaker will be Ronald Foster. Please state your name and speak directly into the mic.

    Thank you. Okay.

    Good afternoon, my commissioners and I am so happy for these young men that's had this honor. It's really a pleasure to know that we still have you out there fighting for us. Because a lot of people don't realize it. When you put that uniform on you're risking your life not only for me, but everybody else in here. But we don't seem to realize some of us, but I do. I was the first commissioner on this board. They didn't have a commission they call it a crime then in 73. So you know, I know about what you're doing all these many years, and I'm very proud of each time that you get a promotion or do whatever you do, that's going to say and definitely take care of this city. Now, what I would like to know, say really, we are living in a state of destruction. racial injustice is the black man's burden. We must pray for love and peace. We must in our crime in our city. Enough is enough. Take my glasses I can do better. Enough is enough. We will stop shooting killing of each other. He's for me a peaceful, loving city of love and not destroying each other. Now is the time for parents to check their children. We have the power we must use it the other day. I was very upset about the news that stated Butler five year old youngster I'm just thinking, What in the world I got five as I've stated many times here. What in the world? You're gonna leave children in the house by themselves, especially under 10 years. So it was very upsetting to me when I heard it on the 11 o'clock morning news the other day and the father he was working, doing repairing somewhere but the mother

    the mother your time that time your time man ready?

    Well anyway, we should take more attention to our children and mothers specially you I thank you for your time

    and we thank you Mr. Ford.

    I'm doing for Obama weekend I just want to say happy holidays to everybody. You all on some and you unsung because you all care. You're on song that you all have different ideas. But Jung sung because, again, I'll say you all care. I'll just say this again. And I've been saying it for a long time. I went up to Lansing the other day and I was very well welcome and they waiting for me. They're waiting for my 1000 letters and they waiting for 100 people to come with me or more. The buses will be full. But wow. And before we go there, I want to tell you to get your relatives a great gift. Tell them to count to 123 before they cross or in a green light whether they walk in or dress. It's tough out there every time I go into a place and I want to hand out some of my forms that I have with me today. People are snatching them from me. Yes, we are going to Lance.

    Please

    help them that we go on and I will say this. When we go to Lansing next September. It'll be a September to remember because we are going to show the people around the city and around the state that we care about what's going on. God bless everybody. Show everybody that you care and again, you're unsung because you have different ideas and you care and backup each other when you come in here don't come in here. Getting that if somebody else's throat you come in here to take care of some business and organize God bless everybody.

    Thank you Mr.

    Good evening.

    Good evening. My name is Rhonda Foster. First thing I want to say is I appreciate Reverend Holly. I'm always been carrying themselves safely in the community when I do see them out and about never seen them act no rules or anything like that always conducted yourself appropriate. So I did want to say that and wish you the best wishes moving forward. I want to give a shout out to our commander chambers. DCA is always on top of things and I want to reiterate with the young lady who was speaking off of racial injustice and mental illness. The biggest largest racial injustice that this city face was when they removed the record a score from us this city had Detroit recorders, court and mental health traffic court. It was removed because the city came together and voted to charge two police officers in the killing them Wow, that's great. Not only was that removed, our precinct delegates were removed, which consists of two to four priests and delegates elected officials on each block and our community. They merged into the county so that all the county represent the conditions that go on with our city. I asked for you to advocate for equality within our precinct delegates so that we have the same legal authority as every other county in the state and in this nation. We had to reverse any ratio policies that were adverse to our community. And we know who was in charge of running and dismantling of our third of our Detroit recorders for mental health traffic court. There's no reason at all why we should be alarmed by what's going on that day with mental illness and road rage when the tools that were provided for us have been taken from us. We want our voice back in our community. We need it back in our community. And we ask you to advocate for equality so we could continue to have those tools that's necessary was to curb crime and improve our quality of life. Thank you.

    Thank you.

    The next speaker will be miss the next speaker will be Blair Anderson and then we'll move into zoom.

    Hello, everybody, God bless you. Thank you. I'm gonna give honors to our pastor and our hosts to police commission to men and women who serve our community. My name is Blair and this several topics here were very very significant to me. I spent over 40 years of my life institutionalized. So when we talk about mental illness, when we talk about basic things that come from poverty, like the damage that love the lead and poor environment and poor health does to our children and our community. I'm a model for that. I became a Black Panther. I was one of the survivors from when Fred Hampton was murdered. I went to prison in Michigan 36 calendar years. Wow there wow. There. I transformed myself. My thinking and worked with programs such as the chance for Life program, worked with my daughters, and I work with all the gangs. I was also a high ranking member of the Chicago street gangs and so when we get to this reducing violence, my daughter is a layup. Harley Quinn of course Detroit. We are serious about this and we want to thank the Detroit Police Department. Thanks City Council. Thank our governor and our state but backing the reality that law enforcement response to violence. It very seldom gets a chance to stop it. the stopping of violence must come from our neighborhoods from our families. It must come from a collaboration that is different from snitching. Hey, I wanted to speak on that. I also was recently after all these years was asked by the Asian gang leaders of Chicago to come out of retirement and to help the nation is me, the vice Lord nation, the Almighty vice Lord nation, all those boys that was just in that indicted leadership asked me to come out of retirement.

    Sir, your Your time is up.

    Okay. Do I leave it second or do I have no second? I

    like it. Yeah, I'm really so proud of you. Yes, I think we all are okay to change for the transformation that you made it all. I think we owe you. More seconds.

    Thank you. As ambassador, but if I slow it nation. I am authorized to make a national initiative to reduce violence. This last wave of indictments has left hundreds families headed into crime and deprivation. Thank you. So we need your help. Thank you for that. And thank all y'all.

    Thank you very much.

    Oh, Power to the people. Thank you. Y'all repeat

    this and diversion who's next?

    We are headed in zoom. Our next speaker will be de de force CAC member Scotty Bowman.

    Hello,

    it's been a honor to hear from OCI. I'm sorry, from the chief investigator Warfield and that he's been making some progress getting the investigators office up to pace. I hope you get the other seven investigators that you need. The core purpose really of the board of police commissioners to investigate these complaints and to have consequences for them. On the upside I did your mention of a person who stands out favorably in my mind and that is um, Commander Harris. It's going to be kind of a misfortune to see him go but he deserves a break. do an excellent job over here on the east side. I live over in precinct and a fifth precinct and yeah, I mean, it's important that we've been able to get the crime rate down to where homicides are lower than they've been in the 60s. But at the same time, we have you know, the what seems like maybe a small matter but it's turned into a big thing. Literally the mole hills turned into a mountain as far as the illegal dumping is gone. And he's been a great help in you know, enforcing those laws against illegal dumping. And helping to get you know, the city active in cleaning things up. Now. I know the mayor apparently, is now got the dumping on his radar as well and it's taken some action. So that's all very good. And one little note that I wanted to comment on is I overheard some discussion and referring to the protests regarding the death of George Floyd as riots. I know in some cities, it determined to riots but in Detroit, I mean, some people may have gotten exceeded the bounds of normal protest. But for the most part, it was a protest. To quote one of one of the protesters in Detroit, we don't destroy our own stuff. We don't destroy our own homes. So you know, we protested peacefully. Thank you for your time. Thank you.

    Our next speaker will be Motor City rue. Next Ruben X and after that Ray Baker

    Oh, this name again this one on the way

    Motor City ru

    while we're trying to find Motor City, can we go

    next is Ruben X.

    Mr. X.

    Yeah, sorry about that. Happy Holidays to all the citizens residents taxpayers in the city of Detroit. And sneaky snake, which day last week was reprehensible. You will really deal I came one day I was gonna show up myself in person but I opted not to come in today. Wow. I was planning on coming to put the nail and Melody whites coffee. Now. Willie bill, sneaky snake. Y'all was pulling her strings when she was with Morris. Akbar over there with the ghost employees scam pocketing 35,000. I need to check them credit cards and credit card receipts to purchase purchases over the OCI and to be OPC because she was entitled to all the money. And Willie was a puppeteer owner. Pull any strings. Now I want to call attention to Eeny meeny technique technically has got what she wants, but it's gonna stay cliche there's not enough evidence to determine it to be a suicide. And now I want to call attention to Javon Johnson, Captain, Thor commander to learn das and now former captain over delivering precinct. Hey, Dubai, liberal when you came out to my house, my mother's house and we toured I took you down here with the drug prices being held at the trailer we walked up the alley, up clangor street, and I pointed out to where he was really England 13 Fafa to was selling drugs next door to my mother. And you asked me You said well, hey man, you probably can give me information on all these drugs pass around here and I told you no. I don't do that. You got upset? Well, I'm in court in the morning on a disorderly conduct charge where you told officer reserve to arrest me before you got out to the house. But guess what, man spot close. Shut the EFF down because I say so. Nobody's gonna say Oh no, don't next door to my mama period.

    The next speaker is Ray Baker and after Ray it will be former Commissioner William Davis.

    Good evening, commissioners. My name is Professor Ray Baker and I'm a resident of District Two in Detroit, an affiliate researcher with the ACLU of Michigan. I'm also an assistant professor in the College of Education, Criminal Justice and Human Services at the University of Cincinnati. And tonight I'm here speaking as a member of the safety and surveillance coalition in Detroit. I've lived in Detroit for just over a decade. I'm calling in to address and in to address information that was provided in your packets tonight about the recent procurement of fingerprint reader technology mobile fingerprint reader technology that was procured via the Health and Public Safety Committee meeting. And the Detroit city council meetings on October 16 and 17th of 2023. Immediately to and prior to these meetings that I've just named. I contacted members of Detroit City Council to address the lack of a specification report that accompany did not accompany. DPD is procurement request for this technology, which is the requirement under the community input over government surveillance ordinance in Detroit, despite also contacting you the board of police commissioners with the safety and surveillance coalition's concern one week after these decisions and this error of procurement procedure by DPD and city council. Their procurement has since been ushered into the legal and contracts office with the city of Detroit. The safety and surveillance coalition conducted a FOIA and despite DPD Having stated to members of city council that no spec report would be necessary for this procurement. Our coalition's legal partners at the ACLU of Michigan determined that a spaghetti specification report was in fact required for the Health and Public Safety Committee and City Council to approve this contract. I'm here tonight on behalf of the Coalition to urge your board to conduct an inquiry about the improper procurement to pause the process of this contract and to require DPD to present the contract with its required special specification report. Again to health and public safety.

    lynnium Respond to that or any Madam Chair. Obviously, it's a lengthy report that she had this something that perhaps should have already sent to us because it went so fast that I didn't want to make sure that that we respond adequately.

    Thank you when

    you tell me. Thank

    you, Mr. Chair. Actually, the Coalition did provide this information to the board's offices in your packets behind tab number six, for the board's consideration.

    You're very good. Thank you. So thank you so much. All right. Oh, Miss wood.

    former Commissioner William Davis.

    Good evening. Can I be heard?

    You always can be heard. Okay. I

    like to start off by saying that. I am looking forward to Holly's replacement. I think that the young man is replacing you with would be a unique addition to the board. You know, from his perspective, can I know his history? And I think that it should be a greater effort made to make sure that we have adequate police in communities, I think is good, the crime is going down. But we still have too many people. I see it every day and people call me every day about people running red lights. We need to make sure that the neighborhood police officers we need to have more of them and they need to make sure they have reliable transportation. Because I know sometimes they don't have no transportation which makes it difficult for them to do the things they need to do to help to reduce tensions in our community. Also, I would like to thank that I may be able to help I might be able to help advocate but I think the board the police commissioners actually do need more money. And I think it should be allocating more than seven additional investigators. I think the primary focus of this board should be making sure they investigating complaints and making sure they are held to be a deterrent. For officers to be doing things they shouldn't be doing to make sure they have the proper demeanor. You know we can make the city a whole lot better. If we actually work and push for that. Of course we want to make sure we do not have no more ghost employees and no more illegal unethical actions going on. Thank you.

    And thank you for your comment. It didn't miss one word.

    We also had Motor City room.

    Oh the city Motor City one What would you say to Motor City three or recall. This time, there are three things I'm looking to look for you or your presentation you may come now third.

    Okay, can everybody hear me? Yes we can. Okay, I'm the president of the third precinct, police community relations console. I want to talk to you a little bit about the console. But first, I want to talk to you about the third precinct. Okay, the third precinct is a unique precinct in the city. First of all, we have two captains. We have the third precinct and we have downtown services. They all report to our commander Michael chambers. We have two districts five and six. So we have Willie Burton, and Lisa Carter as our commissioners. We have two city council districts five and six. We have six zip codes. But the main impact in our precinct is the fact that we have 40,000 residents but on a given day because of Workday, commuters, students and visitors. We can have over 100,000 And if there's a special event, we have 300,000 or more in the precinct. We have three borders, Detroit River, Highland Park and Hamtramck. No outside borders. We have many forms of transportation in the precinct. We have Amtrak DDOT people over the queue line, and smart we also have many local bike rentals sets stations in this in the precinct. They also are the home to Americans first, electric charging street or road weather I guess it's called which does happen I think last week. If you look at the the next slide, we have a list of historical and no notable neighborhoods in the precinct. First of all, we have four neighborhoods that are on the National Registry of Historic Places. We have other key areas in the Nate and the precinct. The one I'm most fond of stuff is the Cass corridor where I live, which is also called Midtown.

    We asked we have in the in the precinct we're a magnet for student and cultural activities. The Detroit Main Library as the Burton historical collection, which is renowned the darkness library in the precinct as the Library for the Blind and Physically Handicapped. You look at Wayne State, they have 24,000 students and over 2000 faculty. And they're all this soon to open is the hill berry gateway, which is going to have the new Hill berry theater. They also have 3200 students living on campus in dorms or apartments. We have two campuses of the College of Creative Studies. In the third precinct, we have the cultural center, which has many renowned institutions, including the Charles H. Wright Museum of African American History, the Detroit Institute of Arts orchestra hall with the Detroit Symphony and the Masonic Temple. We also have other institutions in the area would you draw many outside people? We have the Motown museum, we have the Ford Piquette Avenue plant Museum and the University of Detroit Mercy Law School. Other than these institutions, we have areas in the precinct which also are a magnet for people and activities. The new center which has the Fisher building, the Fisher building houses the Detroit Board of Education, plus the fishing Fisher theater. Right across the street is the Catholic place, which has the state of Michigan offices. And just across the expressway from the third precinct is Henry Ford Health which is as you probably know is going to have a huge expansion of their area into a whole campus there. It's across the expressway but it's definitely going to affect the third precinct. We have the Detroit Medical Center but all of us hospitals, not listed here by accident is the Veterans Hospital which is also part of the Detroit Medical Center. We have the Lexus valent velodrome down in that area. When we get to the downtown activities, as I said, earlier, we have to two areas in the precinct, the third precinct and downtown services. As I said before, we have one Captain Michael chambers. In these two districts, we have three casinos, one in the third precinct and two downtown. If you look at all the sports activities in the precinct, we have little caesars arena, Comerica Park and Ford Field. We also have Hart Plaza in Huntington place, GM headquarters in the rent set, great opera house, the Fox Theater and Music Hall. We also have Greek town, and I could go on and on. As you can see on a busy day, now picture the Detroit Lions or the Taylor Swift concert, that Thanksgiving Day Parade, the fireworks, the marathon that runs in the third precinct partially on those days, we can have over 300 to 400,000 people in the precinct. And that's all 100,000 people that are pleased after project and we are very proud of them and the job that they do protecting all these people that come into the precinct. We're gonna talk a little bit now about the police community relations console. We meet once a month during the year except for July and August. At these meetings, we've had many presentations notable is compass securities, who made a presentation on behalf of DTE gas meter inspections which are going on in the city. He also distributed to his and we thank him for he distributed light bulbs to all of the residents that were in in the meeting. We had Barry Blackwell, from Henry Ford Hospital, talk about their expansion, that they're working with the pistons and MSU and a sweeping excuse development. As I said it's across the expressway but it's definitely going to affect the third precinct. We had the state of Michigan project engineer come and make a presentation about a project that they're working on. They're going to combine bus carriers such as Greyhound in with the existing Amtrak state train station, at word we're in Baltimore. The new project that they want to have will also go down into tech center and they're going to have a huge parking area and bus station there. So this is going to be a very good change for to combine these two transportation entities. We've had representatives from Cathy carrots Wayne County Clerk's Office, children's spa, also had Detroit Public School representatives come and talk about how things that happen in the community extended the schools in our community. We have the data of security of Detroit public libraries come and make presentations. Nikka Chapman Mills from the Detroit library, made a presentation about how her library has commute computers that residents can come and use and they also can loan out laptops, so you don't have to do it in the library. You can get a laptop in your home. Quite I got two more slides. Anyway. We have any council person many of us are government officials come to our meetings including contract Council persons. We have officers appreciation lunch every year as part of Police Week. We have other activities around Police Week. We've had a walk on by with the chief we and our precinct itself we have cycled for the community chests in the community. Our one of our biggest fun activities is Trump retreat. This year we had over 300 I'm sorry, over 800 ghosts and goblins of all ages. We had quite quite a good time that night. We have the DEA Jake back prescription drug drugs in April enact Tober we have coffee with the commander and last week we had a meet and greet and then a precinct where the commander and the captain commander Gil Gilbert when she was in our precinct. She started a series of girl empowerment workshops called Girls time. It was for girls 12 to 18. He had a couple of activities in the precinct. And I hope now that she's downtown, she continues that activity. We also have national night out in the precinct. Okay, as I said before, we meet the third Tuesday of every month, except for July and August is six to eight in the precinct, which is at the West Grand Boulevard in the Lodge Freeway. At our meetings, we recite a Community Pledge. I'll recite it now. As we come together we will use our considerable talents and experience to improve our community. And we pray for strength, strength and guidance in our efforts. We resolve to be supportive of each other as we work together toward our goal. Amen. And with that we we started all of our meetings. Thank you so much he speak about the third precinct and the police community relations.

    Thank you so much. Give your name for the record. Again.

    Sorry Leslie malcolmson. It's a more time let's lay your hand out

    to the chair. Are you good? Yes sir. Can

    we can we give can we get Miss malkinson another minute.

    i That was the end device I

    gave her I gave her eight minutes more than she's supposed to. But that's what you know that don't worry about it. You will own a role and win but we're about to stop it. I just want to know what what to Commander gonna have to say after all of this. I had gotten much less to say but would you please come and finish this report? Thank you so much for a beautiful well. I'm proud of the third place I could tell. I could tell a lot going on. I'm thinking about moving here

    yeah, good evening, everybody.

    I know we're gonna have to say,

    Well, I'm gonna cut it a little shorter. And I appreciate everybody's time. Thank you. I'll miss melcombe. So we truly appreciate it. So I'm Commander Michael chambers. I've been here now at the third precinct for the last four months since August. Along with my partner, Captain Conway petty, who has given 46 years of service to our police department here. What

    do you say 46 years.

    Well finales and I'm very thankful to have him over there at number three with me. So I'm just going to talk briefly and hopefully I'm not covering a whole bunch of the same stuff, but no third precinct encompasses roughly 10 square miles. We have a population of 44,000 residents, districts five and six, which we covered and we have about 142 officers of various ranks assigned to the precinct working in patrol Special Ops, traffic and investigations. Community Relations obviously is very important within the third precinct, and we're very engaged with the community business associations such as Woodbridge, Corktown, Greek town, brush Park, Midtown, downtown Detroit partnership and so many others. We have five dedicated neighborhood police officers, Brad Hawkins, if he's present, I know he's out. He's out in the back watching our cars so he's at work. We also have MPO John pitch him. He's outside watching as well. We have MPO Shanita more to the back. We also have MPO Dale Dorsey and M. And MPO Tamara Harris Hardy he's been working hard for the city. I'll tell you that because we have five exceptional MPOs Yes, yep. And we also have our newly appointed Sergeant NPO. Ray Sadi he's our sergeant over the MPO. So they all do an outstanding job. So I'm going to talk briefly about some of our crime trends for the year within the third so like, Deputy Chief Hayes was saying we're seeing some of those successes with our primary duction as well. So for homicides, the third precinct were actually down 35% year to date as compared to 2022. We're also seeing a 16% reduction in sexual assaults. We're seeing a 48% reduction in our non fatal shootings. Compared to last year at this point, we had 56 non fatal shootings. We only have 29 this year, so we're almost 50% down as compared to last year. We're also seeing nearly a 50% reduction in our carjackings and we're also seeing a 5% reduction in our burglaries. One of the challenges that we've been having is our larcenies where we've seen about just over a 20% increase year to date. So on a positive note we've been seeing over the last 28 days a reduction going down of close to 17%. So we think we're heading in the right direction and going into 2024. We're putting a big focus on trying to reduce some of these larcenies in the breaking in of different models that are occurring, especially downtown at some of the different events. So some of our strategy, we're dedicating additional scout cars and increasing officer patrol hours in our hotspots. We have active b&e cars being ran with surveillance officers to address these larceny especially like I said downtown during major events, sporting events and concerts. We also do our weekly restore peace operations like ticket and tow and warrant sweeps. We actively pursue our known offenders, focusing on individuals utilizing guns. So on a daily report, I send out a report to our our team, our special operations team, and they have to go out searching for these named individuals in these police reports and bring them into custody and then report back to me we're also having embedded Michigan Department of Corrections agent who goes out with our team at the precinct and they do home checks on some probationers and parolees. So that's something that we do. We also have an active ceasefire team and our detective units that go out on all our shootings, and we have one of the highest closure rates within a city to over 50% with four out of our detective unit for non fatal shootings. We also partner with our neighboring precincts we bought into the fourth 10th and seventh precincts as well as Highland Park and Hamtramck and we we partner with specialized units like cats, which is our commercial auto theft unit, narcotics gang, Intel and Metro units regularly come into our precinct to assist with different activities that we have to address crime or if we have protests, different events, parades, everything else. So we have from around the city, different units coming in to help. We also have the dedicated victim advocate that's based out of our precinct. She assists with domestic violence victims and assists with getting personal protection orders out of the port and she does an outstanding job. Our MPOs I think this was touched on a little bit but they also go into the schools regularly they do the anti bullying, conflict resolution stranger danger, gun safety tips. movie nights are just a few and they're also going to be adopted adopting for families for Christmas. And passing out gifts and food coming coming up on 21st. So that's a lot of what we have going but I just want to express again, the hard work that the officers at the third precinct do my team here and my captain the MPOs. They do a great job, and we're blessed to have a great community support here. The third as well. So thank you all.

    Oh, no, thank you. Your big hand. Now, do you do you walk Do you work across the Boulevard on the on the other side of this pathway? Yes. This year was

    two Yes, yes, we go all the way up. To Highland Park. And then we go over East going over towards the seventh precincts Hamtramck and then what

    my concern is, is that you got $3 billion worth 3 billion in development. And we it it'd be forward 3 billion and I'm just you know I'm sure knowing chief white and all you guys that you you get it ready for that? Because she told me that's a lot of activity across the way there. The other thing concerned about is obviously is we don't have enough man manpower or woman power in terms of basically with all that development going over there. It's going all the way back to two to two Grand River that I went down two years. It's three things that I love the way you run. It runs very well. I love it. Thank you. I love the way you operate. I'm really concerned about all of that development, and how are we going to be there? Are we as police officers with the force that you have? It seemed like to you there ought to be some concern that you need to have more based upon this. The point 3 billion development.

    I can tell you Commissioner that our recruiting section is doing an outstanding job. We're going to be filling in all our budgeted positions probably within the next couple months. And then also, Mayor Duggan is do an outstanding job. We're reaching out to state getting more funding and we're going to be bringing more police officers to the city going into the new year. We understand the growth that we're going to we're going to be prepared for

    and I'm sure you will be you know I'm self appointed mayor of North n. So we got 370 338 people coming in D when in opera. We opened up this building B when we got to Wayne County, we got the Detroit Public School system going to Northern High School. That's another 225 people coming in. So we talked about another 800 to 1000 people is coming from the Boulevard to Chicago. Yes sir.

    And we're gonna be here and ready for you. So let us know and we'll definitely have our presence felt right. We'll come around to assist Okay.

    Well, I'm gonna point to a young lady that reported she could be the next mayor. Thank you for north end. Thank you so much any questions you have for the mandated collections at all. Thank you so much. Thank you so much for your port. Thank you for for all that you guys have done for the area. At this time, Madam Chair. Let's move quickly, if you don't mind, to the announcements in my own right.

    And then Thank you, Mr. Chair. You want to skip the board secretary report and go

    I don't want to do split anything I wanted to make sure everything is what I don't want the chair to be upset with me because I didn't follow the protocol. So please, do whatever's next. I'm loss.

    Mr. Chair. Next on the agenda is the Secretary report which will be brief today. Okay. And then I'll move on to announcements if that's okay. With you. That's fine. Or the secretary report today the incoming correspondence for you commissioners are outlined in your agenda. That includes two which you will find behind tab number six in your packets. One is the memorandum with recommendations on implementing processes to respond to the OIG report 23 Dash 0006 Dash and IV on authorized use of signature. That memorandum provides some recommendations on processes to address the OIG s recommendations. The other correspondence also behind tab six, as was mentioned before released to the public increase from assistant professor Ray Baker and attorney Ramas want to dude regarding DVDs procurement of mobile fingerprinting devices and the community input over government surveillance or CX ordinance. As a reminder, the city Detroit shuts down for the holidays from Friday, December 22 to through Monday, January 1 2024, with few exceptions. And as also as a reminder, the LPC and OCI offices will be closed on Friday, December 22, and Monday, December 25. On December 26 through December 28. The BLP see office will be closed however, I will be available to support remotely via email or phone. If there are any urgent matters and the Office of the Chief Investigator will be open the 26th through the 28th for regular hours of operation. Both offices will be closed on December 29 and January 1. The staffs morale committee chief investigator and I will be hosting a holiday brunch for the BLP see admin and OCI staff on Monday, December 18, at 9am at the OCI office, commissioners you're welcome to stop by to enjoy the festivities as well with the staff to close out the year. Commissioners on Tuesday this week you received an email with packet supporting 3d PD applicant appeals. Those are scheduled for next week, December 21 During the meeting and those packets will also be passed for your convenience at next week's meeting as incoming correspondence. Mr. Chair moving on to announcements. The next board meeting is Thursday, December 21 at 3pm at Detroit Public Safety headquarters, and the next community meeting will be Thursday January 11 at 6:30pm at the Northwest Activity Center at 18100 Miles Road in Detroit. The remaining monthly committee meetings for December are the policy committee meeting scheduled for Tuesday, December 19 at 5pm. That meeting will take place at Detroit Public Safety headquarters and also have a zoom option for participation of the public. Mr. Chair that concludes the secretary report and the announcements

    and thank you very much, Madam Secretary. Two commissioners, if you would please under new business. I'm asking that Commissioner Carter will basically report to for the training, personnel and training committee report. Lead I need you to pay close attention to this because we want to make sure that we get this done tonight.

    Thank you Mr. Chair. So the candidate Akari Jenkins did not accept the board's offer for appointment to the analyst position. During the October 31 committee meeting, the personnel and training committee selected Mary barber as the candidate to offer the position if Miss Jenkins declined, so at this time, I will move that we by the direction of the personnel and training committee I moved to make a contingent offer to the appointment of analysts with a final offer salary of $72,694 to Mary barber pending background check.

    It's been moved and by the direction of the Personnel Committee. Oh to make an attendant offer to the woman and analysts with the final offer salary of 72,000 for $694 to marry Bart Barbara pending the background check in the discussion on this motion. I need a second to that motion.

    Mr. Chair,

    no second.

    No second I'll second is needed.

    Okay. Any discussion? Here No discussion? It's been it's been it had been moved and and I'm saying the same thing madam chair was my my sense.

    That's correct, Mr. Chair before voting. The procedures to restate the motion.

    I got you. Yeah, that's me and I don't know much about polymer material. That's what they said. I noticed that it has been moved by the direction of personnel training committed to make it a contingent offer to deployment analyst with the file. Office hours 72,694 To me, barber spinning, background check. All in favor. Aye. All oppose. You're done. So audit anything else for personnel? Manager of where am I now?

    Mr. Chair, item B under new business a citizen complaints committee report with Commissioner banks

    like commission banks. Fion. All right.

    What I want to do I want to talk a little bit about last week when I was talking about former Secretary Melanie white. I want to go over a little little bit more details on that situation. Because there was over $35,000 and Bezu by Melanie white. See was supposed to only get $3,500 Every two weeks annually. That's her salary 715 22 she get $14,000.07 2922 She got over $8,000

    I'm asking you Chairman banks once again that according to my notes here, your your read report has it's supposed to be doing done with ces complaints committee. This has nothing to do with your committee is indicated. The chair is not here and I don't ever want to assume that he's usurp his role. So I'd like for you to bring it up when the chair comes in. Okay, let him handle it.

    I'll bring it up. Bring it up when he's here. Very good. Thank you. Thank you for that. No, no

    problem. Leave it alone. Okay, but you have anything else to say about the support? Yeah,

    I'm gonna take care of that now. Mr. Chair. All right. Thank

    you. All right.

    On the behalf on behalf of the Board of police commissioners, citizens complaint committee, please see key updates from the committee meeting held on November the 28th 2023. Or the attendees Chairman Cedric banks. prpc. Vice Chair Jim Holley, Commissioner Tamra Liberty Smith also said in as a guest Commissioner, finalize citizen complaint appeal process at the 1024 2023 citizens complaint committee meeting. There were several outstanding questions to finalize the new proposed SOP for handling citizens complaint appeals staff has resolved those issues those questions and made the appropriate edits. The committee members had copies of the final drafts and heart in hand during the 1128 2023 meeting. The final draft was also reviewed by acting board attorney Stephanie Labelle prior to the meeting, and she had no concerns agreeing to the SOP aligns with the city charter. The committee approved the draft to be presented as a recommendation to the pool board for adoption. Update Assistant Chief Eric Ewing and Wayne Law ABA fellows received yo Justice Program. The committee invited assistant chair Chief of Police Eric Ewing, and Captain Leonard and Wayne Law ABA fellows to return as a follow up to the discussion that occurred at the 1024 2320 23 meeting. Aba fellowship director Rebecca Robert Shaw and law fellow fellow Molly moaning participated Molly Bonilla shared her insights about the participation in the DVDs six hour police committed Community Summit. Feedback from the participating office officers was that they were initially anxious to attend the summit, but left feeling better understood. Citizens seem very comfortable from the beginning, especially with the opening icebreaker. The program set seems to be a good step in the right direction with history scenarios and conversations, more written information about the program and clear measures for success of the program will be useful. The board can expect updates and fellows continue their workshop. AC Ewing also discussed various ways that DPD builds relationships with the community, such as diversity, sensitivity training and neighborhood police officers. Report from the chief investigator. body worn camera Chief Investigator Warfield has increased the focus of reviewing all body worn camera footage is monitoring that investigation. Investigators are holding officers accountable and the investigation finding the keeping the cameras on for the duration of the inter interact on the chief investigator Orfeo has body worn camera training plan for investigators so they can they are better equipped to determine all officer compliance additional BLP citizens complaint committee meetings will be scheduled in January with the exact date and determined Mr. Chair Mr. Chairman, there's a recommendation coming out of coming out of citizens complaint committee regarding the complaints appeal and and I would like to make that motion now. If I could.

    My understanding is is that you can motion is a resolution and not a not a motion of about complaints. That's my understanding based upon my getting ready to be chairman for the night. I was this will my understanding if it's something else madam chair that that you switched on me. And Madam Secretary, let me know because my notes here says I'm basically looking for a resolution and not a a motion

    through the Chair. Yes. For the clarification of the what's on the agenda. The agenda item is consideration for the board to adopt the citizen complaints committees recommended process for the formal resolution of OCI citizen complaints appeals, that term resolution is part of the title of that section in the charter, formal resolution of OCI, citizen complaints appeals. So the discussion is not around an actual resolution,

    in essence, so I'm asking you to make me look presidential. Tell me what it is that I'm supposed to do.

    Mr. Chair, if Commissioner Banks has a motion, based on the recommendation that came out of the citizen complaints committee, if, if you're okay with it, you can allow him to make it

    okay. Commissioner banks. You wrote a motion.

    All right. You're all set. What? Yes, sir. All right. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Okay. Move to approve the citizens complaint committee recommendation for the formal resolution process of OCI citizens complaint appeals.

    Through the Chair, Commissioner Hernandez,

    just as a point of clarity, the language that was read in comparison to the language and on the actual agenda differs. I know the the agenda states that it's a consideration which I don't believe needs or requires a motion. So I'm just trying to get clarity as to what the point of action might be based on what was read in comparison to what's on the agenda. And under unclear and

    I'm I'm with you on this. Commissioner Jimenez Madam Secretary, is this third and Stephens son, I need to interpret what the commissioner is saying. So I know what to do with it.

    Thank you, Mr. Chair, from a motion language perspective. If I understand what the what Commissioner banks is looking to do, an appropriate motion would be by the direction of the citizen complaint committee. I moved to adopt the formal resolution of OCI citizen complaints, appeals standard operating procedures.

    Are you okay with that Commissioner, Hendon days

    as long as the thread correctly say it again? As long as it's read correctly?

    All right, you heard the motion? Is there a did you make the motion Commissioner banks just made the motion? Okay. Can you do it again for me?

    Yes, sir.

    We'll do this the motion Not, not the gotcha.

    Okay. I'll do it. Here we go. I moved to approve the citizens complaint committee recommendation for the formal resolution process of the city. Out of the OCI citizen complaints appeals

    please forgive me ladies and gentlemen. This seems like it's very important. Mr. Warfield what what are your what do you What are y'all talking about? But this what it what's going on here? Tell me what what is it? You guys want? So we can move it for you?

    Yes, through the Chair. Thank you, sir. This is actually the appeal process. So if a citizen is not pleased with the outcome, okay. The Citizen complaint, they can appeal that decision back to the board and the board would be the final arbitrator of that particular dispute.

    Okay, board what's your what's your record? what's your what's your recommendation to this board? To this to this motion? There second. No, second, the motion are there. Yes, ma'am. Mr.

    Chair, this is a motion coming out of a committee and so a second is not required. Okay, according to Robert's Rules, but

    then I need a vote though. Right? I need a vote. All right. Yes,

    a vote is required.

    Can I have a roll call?

    Yes, Mr. Chair, Vice Chair.

    You know what yes means? The motion itself, right. The step the motion, right. That's correct. Okay.

    Vice Chair Jim. Holly. Yes. Commissioner? Tamra Liberty Smith. Yes. Commissioner Cedric banks. Yes. Commissioner Willie Bell. Commissioner Willie Burton. Yes. Commissioner Lisa Carter. Commissioner. Hey, Suz Hernandez. Yes. Commissioner Roy gamble. Yes. Mr. Chair, you have a yes votes and zero no votes

    and that means that the did pass. Okay. That is passed past. At this time. The chair recognized a motion to adjourn.

    Y'all don't want to go home. Mr. Chairman. Yes, sir. Go ahead.

    I like to he'll make a motion refers to personnel matter. I move that the board remove Victoria. From her position as board secretary for the board, due to her performance poor performance.

    Mr. Chairman, Mr. pail before we get a second, I just really want you to know. I don't like doing things without the chairman. Being here and not going and not gonna be here after tonight. But it's been but has not been second. Okay. I'm just letting you know I don't feel comfortable with anything like this on this scale without the chairman being here. But it's the corner to Parliament parliamentary procedure, if his second then I have to let it ride. In a discussion. Mr.

    Chairman, yes. Your chair has just stated as of last week, when we have a core we can take care of business. That is how he echoed that last week. And I think that the rationale in reference to the board secretary is function more like a CEO versus being a board secretary. There have been numerous issues coming from very source in reference to that we should address this matter and therefore specific detail I don't want to go into in depth but basically on that you serve it we all on the board. Simple as that. And performance. On the wheel that board

    and the chair recognizes to come in commission bail. I think I have a right to comment as well. And I'm just saying to you again, when you try to move someone on that level, the whole board needs to know why. Other thing I'm concerned about board members is that the chairman is not here and not feel like he's he has to be involved in this one way or the other. But again, it's just how I feel about this. i I have no qualms no skin in the game. I'm just saying to you again, I just feel like this is not I think the chairman need to be involved in this discussion. And also in this vote. When you're trying to move someone on personnel on this level. I hear you loud and clear. This tell you how I feel about it. Any other any other Ward Roy you have anything to say Commissioner Roy it Commissioner bikes. Yeah,

    I have something to say. When he was speaking he was commissioner bail was coming through low. I couldn't understand what he was saying. All I heard was Secretary Okay, let me repeat. Can you repeat that again? He came through very very low. He can

    see he can talk louder than that. Permission to bail. And

    officer. Commissioner Roy you didn't hear me that.

    Okay, Commissioner bail real loud. Use your preacher voice.

    I move that the Board board of publishing moved Victoria sharp for her position as board secretary from the board due to we are not satisfied with her job performance. And I'd like to speak to the issue. This board allow the board secretary interim and Chief Investigator interim well, they was in their previous position to be moved without the action of the board whatsoever in terms of the process.

    It's also been second by this as any other discussion otherwise discussion

    right here. Discussion right here. She hasn't even been here a year yet. You know, let's get it you know, let's get it lady a year. You haven't even been here a year yet. And she's she's been trying she'd been doing. She's been working hard. She got a good work ethic was he haven't even been here a year yet.

    Okay. Anything else? That's

    a letter get a year here.

    Anything else? Commissioner banks do Commissioner Burton

    to the Chair.

    Thank you. That's my man. Let's at least get a year in that

    they should commission banks talk to me to the chair to Mr. Commissioner Burton.

    You know I call that we table.

    You do what now? A call that we table or table or the table

    okay, now I don't have a

    table it will go back to the board to next week. Or if we don't table for that, you know don't table into next week. Then listen, it's a personnel and training

    is it through the Chair,

    if I could from a parliamentarian, it

    has to be it has to be a it would have to be a a substitute motion not to table it is a substitute motion to table it to the chair who I'm talking to Commissioner Burton. Do you want to do that or do you want to because I don't have the monetary here but I'm using the best parliamentarian that I'm known for with my spirits. It you have to say you want to table it yet is substituted to table it and then have to be second and they will be voted on this is what you're saying? Question and Burton or not?

    I call that that that the board table

    you I'm asking you Commissioner am mercy with me. Okay. Work with me. If you want to table it. I'm asked you to take this to be accepted a substitute motion to table it. If you don't want to do that, that I have no I have no knowledge of how to do a table without someone else giving a second to it. So otherwise, I'm moving back to barber or two banks and Mr. Banks.

    Thank you Mr. Chair. I really appreciate that. We cannot make no decision like that. With the vice chair here. None. No disrespect to you. You're good man. You're doing an incredible job. But we need the chairman here and we need to button the proletarian here to make a major decision like that that need to be held off to another week or two until the politician get here and to the chairman get here that needs to be held off.

    Then understand this is a motion on the floor that's been second. I got to go with the motion. If you set it set it down. Then it goes to another time. If you say yes then it is what it is. So you got to do one or the other because I'm I have the motion on it and I got to act on the motion. I know that much about our military with the law school one night, that's all but I just don't know that much. So based upon this, I'm just saying to you is wanting to what we showed you say if we say yes to the motion, it means you are Miss Shaw or to to be basically let go. If you say no it means that he will be go to another at another time. Do you know? So at this time on the show,

    we call for Can we call for five minute recess, Mr.

    Chair? No, I'm going to call for a A roll call.

    Excuse me to the chair.

    Yes,

    please repeat that. What yes means and what no means?

    Yes means yes to the motion, which is that let Michelle go on to the motion. The no means that we basically will have to deal with this at another time are not at all through the chair Yes, ma'am.

    If I can just provide some information that the parliamentarian has provided to the board as far as making appropriate motions.

    I need to help I accept.

    Dr. Francis Jackson did provide a an opinion it's behind tab number six toward the back of that tab which provides the board with the appropriate motion language for removing a staff member from their appointment. And so my recommendation based on the recommendation from the parliamentarian is that this motion be made with the appropriate language so that the bores will can be accomplished.

    So are you suggesting that the lies that's already on the on the motion is not sufficient?

    The motion has been made so far, it's not clear as to the date and the template that Dr. Jackson provided is in the packets if you would like to use it to clarify the motion.

    I can read that as well. If you

    like why don't you okay

    or a motion to end the staff members appointment. If the motion is made by an individual Commissioner. The parliamentarian has advised the following language I move that the appointment of an individual's name to the position of in their title will end effective and then a date.

    So visibile you want to all do all the Missouri's recommendation?

    Yes I speak to the motion would be immediately in terms of removal

    under the parliament the polar follow the example the name, you know, the policy POM Metairie example. You see it. Let's see what page it says I'm Mrs up as well.

    if you look behind, the easiest way to find it is to go to tab number seven and then go backwards by like three pages and you'll see the recommendation there

    you see it. Commissioner I'm sorry ladies and gentlemen. I'm doing the best I can with this. This caught me off guard a little bit. So please forgive me.

    You see it's Mr. Chair if you'd like I can take my copy out and pass it down. If that will be easier.

    Yes, do that for me. I'm most aimed at I need it to be Roy. Pass it to me sir.

    Well, Mr. Chairman, I think I see it now is just really basic lack language. So therefore Yeah, I see it. Now. Let's say that the chair recognizes Commissioner I moved at the Commission appointment of Victoria Shaw to position within or Secretary ins effectively. Well, 15

    is their second steel. They're sorted by Mrs. Carter. Commissioner Carter. We've had had our head is readiness already. So at this particular time again, we're building on yes for the removal. No for not okay. Maybe we have the roll call.

    Thank you, Mr. Chair. Vice Chair Jim Hawley. No. Right. Commissioner Tamra Liberty Smith.

    Oh,

    Commissioner Cedric bank. So missioner Willie Bell? Yes. Commissioner Willie Burton. No. Commissioner Lisa Carter. Yes. Commissioner. Hey, Soos. Hernandez. No. Commissioner Roy gamble.

    No. All right, Mr. Chair, you

    have two yes votes and six no votes.

    So the motion fails. At this time The Chair recognizes the gentleman, please. Move. There is no for no no need for no notion known. No second on that one. The night y'all