Yeah. And I think that, you know, the principles that we're talking about here are like the influence earlier in life is, is what survived my my allegiance to evangelical Christianity didn't. But it was the examples that I saw in front of me lived examples. That went a long way. I mean, I, you know, I grew up in it, you know, I guess to put it, frankly, an affluent household, you know, both of my parents professionals, and, and I remember that on Friday nights, we'd have family nights, but but the nights were titled every Friday night was called others first. And, and so we would, we would always have a treat in store, whether that was, you know, we were going to, I mean, Chuck, obviously, we're talking back in the day. So whether we were gonna go to the independent video store and rent a 40 pound VHS machine to lug home with a VHS copy of Old Yeller, or whatever we were gonna watch Mary Poppins Chitty Chitty, bang, bang, you name it, whatever it was, whether we're going to order pizza, or my mom was going to make her famous lasagna or whatever it was, for family night on the Friday night, they would first bring out a bin of stickers and stationery and all kinds of cool stuff. And we would put together care packages for families, we would write letters to people that were that were working around the world, we would have pen pals, and of course support young people in communities through agencies and organizations, nonprofits that are still doing some of that work today. Some of them who I'm still proud to support and others that I've moved on from but the point was, the principle was there, the understanding that we were to place or put others first that we were to elevate other people first, before we would benefit or, you know, enjoy the fruits of my parents labor. That was one example. You know, my dad working in health care, my mom, working in education, seeing the conviction with which they operated. I remember one instance, in particular, where a patient of my dad's who, you know, lives, you know, if he's still around, I hope he is who lives or lived with schizophrenia, you know, interrupted a family gathering in public. And and, you know, as sort of was experiencing an episode, you know, pardon my rudimentary and civilian level understanding of the vernacular, but but it was clear that this guy was experiencing mental illness, and that this was a very real and visceral experience, not just for him, but for our family as well, especially us as young children and, and seeing how my dad, you know, not just I wouldn't say intercepted him because it almost sounds like he deflected and he did it. He showed him care and respect. And I remember and Charles, I'm 46. Now this has to be 35 years ago, I still remember how it made me feel. To see my dad approaching that situation with such empathy. A lot of times healthcare professionals can be criticized, and in some cases, the criticism is very fair, for being a little bit too booksmart not enough street smart, you know, we call it bedside manner, or the lack thereof, and seeing my dad's, you know, ability to treat someone as as an equal as a valuable and cherished human being, despite the fact that the situation was quite uncomfortable for all of us. Those are the types of things that had a really big impact on me as a person. And I've seen it all the way through. And I think that, you know, human beings that that do have that empathy. Understand that, you know, sometimes it's the little things right, that we, you know, you mentioned that I worked for the Edmonton Oilers for a lot of years is there in Arena host and, and now I'm lucky enough to be able to attend those games with my son, who's seven years old. And and, you know, as is the case in any downtown urban center, when you're walking to a hockey game, or a concert or your favorite restaurant, chances are you're going to see people who are down and out, you're going to see people who have not had the same opportunity as us not just denied opportunities, but in some circumstances have survived horrific experiences that would take down some of the strongest of us. And you know, in a world where so many people can experience that discomfort that we talked about prompting them to look the other way. Walk past as quickly as they can. To me some time has its life through the eyes of a child as the biggest teacher hearing my seven year old Wyatt, you know, suggest that we help somebody out or, or grab a five out of my wallet to pass it along to them. And, and that's, you know, I don't care if Connor McDavid scores a hat trick that night, my son Wyatt suggesting that we treat a human being with the dignity that they deserve is the biggest win that night. And, and I think that empathy is lived I think empathy can pass the pass down. And I do think that empathy can be learned. But I think sometimes the process of learning empathy can be a difficult one. Because sometimes you've got to deconstruct some of the things the formative influences in your life that have prevented you from feeling or displaying empathy toward people. And maybe talk shows like this one, and like mine can go a long way in challenging us and, and nudging us towards those uncomfortable areas.