Well, it was strange, I always liked listening to the radio, and my mother would have the radio on. We used to have a poultry farm, you know, raising chickens, and the chickens would lay eggs, which we would sell and all that kind of stuff. And she would have the radio on in the background. And I also like many blind children liked to use the telephone. So one day, when I was four, I started calling in to a local call-in show, and was probably very precocious. Anyway, a lot of the people listening thought it was kind of cute that this four year old kid was calling in. And one day, my parents got a telegram from the radio station, asking if one of them could call the manager. And my parents thought that they were going to be asked to have me stop calling, you know, they they thought that your child is being a nuisance, stop him from calling in to us. But actually, what they said was, we really would like it if you would let your child come in and host a radio show with us just before Christmas, talking to the children about what they would like at Christmas time and that sort of thing. And so that's how I got involved in radio very early. So right throughout my childhood, I was also doing things on the radio, and I've had a love of radio ever since.