If you identify, oh, you know there is someone your family member or anybody for that matter friend. You can just call them. You can just talk to them. But don't use words like this when they say, oh, I'm going through a lot of exhausted, oh it will come over, you will come over. Those kinds of words, actually it doesn't help them. When they call you they expect you to give some form of help, some form of listening that they want. So it's actually when a person calls if, if somebody calls you, they have all- they have actually used up all their resources, and they got no other resource to come over this feeling, and they're seeking help. So it's your responsibility to help these kind of caregivers who call you. If you can make a visit. Now, there are a lot of reasons you know now with the, with the COVID-19 unable to visit. Do a video call. Okay, definitely when you do your video call, you can see the expression, you can see how she goes through that, you know that the feeling that she- he is having. Alright. And when you- when you advise these kind of caregivers. You always advise them on what they're supposed to do. If they have certain, certain things that they want to achieve in their life, tell them to set realistic goals. For example, if they are caring for someone who is terminally ill. All right, is a caregiver who is very terminally ill. So they have to set a realistic goal that you're not, you're not going to expect the person to get up and walk, or they're not going to do what they have been doing previously. What you can do is you can make them feel comfortable with whatever care that you give them, and always tell them that they should not feel guilty that they have not done anything to improve the condition. That is a very important thing because the care actually is something that you give, but if the condition deteriorates, they should not blame themselves. Okay the condition deteriorated because my care was not given to the expectation. No. Because you have given your best, alright. I have a friend who is actually, she's taking care of her mother, who is actually in the stage 4 of cancer, very sad. But she is really very, very burnt out, taking care. At the end of the day she know that she's going to lose the loved one. But, how we managed to help her burden, her stress is what we do is we take each one of us every week, we will take her dinner- we will cook for them, we will cook for the family. So we have about one day she does her own. Out of the seven days, six days each of us will take one dinner. That means today, I will take another day, another friend will take another day, another sibling family will take, and there is another sibling, and another friend. You know so six days, we help her out in that way, that means she's not burdened with thinking, what am I supposed to cook for my family member and here I'm caring for my loved one. In this way, it helped her a lot. Alright. And we also have other social supports. For example, you have befrienders alright you can just tell them, you can talk to befrienders. You have the Talian Nur, you can talk to them. They can give- they listen very well, and they give some suggestions you know, and sometimes they also do referrals for you. They help out telling you where can you get your help, so that you can- it's easier for you to know where you can seek that help.