in the rare circumstances, and they're more rare going from undergrad to Doctor program, right? And I know many people think that they're just going to skip that, but that's a very difficult task, because if you're going to Doctor program, they want you to have a skill set that's already in place, so you hit the ground running. My question is, do you have any interest in doing research? Okay, Doctor programs, whether they're PhD or society, which is more practical, practice oriented program, there's going to be some research in there. If that doesn't, if that makes you unhappy or or if it makes you very excited, you want to know your kind, your stance, you might say, Well, I only even know because I've never done research. Then there's your answer. Undergrad, grad masters, take look for opportunities to be on a in a research project. Gain experience, if possible, start your sophomore, junior, senior years in college, so you can work with perhaps even one or two different people to see what that's like, or one or two different topics really helpful. You might be like, This is my favorite. This is not jam. Or you might be like, No, I don't want to do this. And how much better to find that out before you put all the time and effort into graduate studies. So very helpful if you're applying to a doctor program, really important. And wonder if you say, Well, I graduated five years ago and I didn't do it, then, am I? Am I out of luck? No, you might reach out to current faculty. Do there any research opportunities? Yeah, I just took on someone who they wanted to do more research, but more I was from a historical perspective. They like history and systems, so they're not in a program. But doesn't mean they can't work with someone. You can find that you can find it. It's not always paid, maybe paid, maybe not, but sure, get the experience. See if you even like