One of the topics we talked about before we went on today and recorded this podcast were the number of certifications that are out there beyond just the certificate of clinical competence, Jeanette was dropping several acronyms to me before the podcast, and I will admit I'm Preston. I carry a license from a bespa in Arkansas to practice speech language pathology. I have a master's degree. I have vital stem certification, and I am trained with synchrony, I think, which is what company it's all of a sudden escaping me, the modality company anyway. Other than that, there's really nothing else that I carry there, and I can't even remember what one of them is. So while certifications and training, all of those things are great, Jeanette was challenging before the podcast, and we kind of laughed. And she said, Well, you don't, you don't know this one, dysphagia, you know, protocol. And I said, No. I said, all I do is, you know, I've just transitioned over a dozen people in my career from being NPO to having no diet restrictions and going back to eating and drinking again. She said, Well, how the hell did you do that? And it Jeanette, I'm kind of telling on our conversation, but it was fun and it was it was lighthearted, but I started to lay down some of the things that I did, and you said, Oh, okay, well, I guess that worked, you know. And ultimately, as a clinician, and I will freely admit, coming out of my graduate school experience, I you know, and I read these things from people that say I have no idea what I'm doing, and that's okay, because there are a lot of us that are going to get out there and suddenly realize there is the academic way that this profession is taught. There. Is the sort of literary way that it's taught from papers from ASHA and things of that nature. And then there's the practicality of treating in the public school or treating in the skilled nursing facility. And so we find the things that like, Gee, that is not going to work here because of this. And so I need to practice differently. My patients aren't going to sit here and do this many exercises for something, or my facility is not going to let me go retest this person multiple times for their swallow. They're only going to allow me to have them tested twice in six months. Whatever the case may be, you've learned those different ways to do this, and then eventually you say, Okay, this is working. I have transitioned over a dozen people in a short amount of time back to a PO diet. And I didn't get the certifications, but I took the skills that I had, I took the offerings of tools that are out there and applied them. And so I bring this all back to saying that for the clinicians. And I'm kidding around the Jeanette today, but I've had some people say, well, didn't you go get this certification, do this? No, I just did this. And sometimes there's just a kind of a, I'm trying to think of a nice word, but there's just a cattiness about this and, and I don't think it's necessarily just gender based. I bumped into some male SLPs before that. Have you know, also kind of sneered at it. I am, guess I'm one of those people in the profession that's not defined by the letters after my name or the courses that I signed up for. I would rather define myself on the impacts of the patients that I worked on, and the success stories that came from that, and the cards and letters that I got that said, you know, this made a difference. What? Why are you? You're looking at me with your, oh, you're yawning. Okay, I was yawning because it's the devil's out. Yeah, I know I woke you up early for this, but it's, great to celebrate all those letters and courses, and there's nothing against all of that, but it goes back to the central question of why we're so eager to build walls in this profession. And I think it has to. It kind of goes back to the fact that we all seemingly first start out with three letters after our name, and it's like, well, if you're not part of this club, you're not even competent, for crying out loud. And you know, well, congratulations, you spent $250 a year to continue to declare your competence. Otherwise, you have to go back and take a test. This is, I think, that begins with that culture, but I think it permeates and passes on from generation to generation. So that leads me into what can we do to support our fellow clinicians? And I think the first thing is we learn from this right now and say that, you know, I'm not going to listen to what I heard from my friends saying that all these students today are just so over reliant on AI they don't know what the hell they're doing. They're just floating through these graduate programs and learning nothing that's that's a lot of hearsay, and frankly, some of them may be using AI as a tool that, wow, we wish we might have had that could have taken clinicians that were a bit raw and give them more tools in an early time, I guess, to say, first of all, let's not just make an assumption about a different cohort of prospective clinicians that we haven't met, that we haven't talked to. If you've talked to these people, if you've been part of a graduate program, perhaps as a teacher, and you're saying, Yes, I have no idea what these kids are doing, then maybe you can speak with it with some legitimacy. But if you've been out in the field for 20 years and you say, Gee, I hear these kids are worthless. Wow, you're stop being an asshole. You know why? You know? I mean, what? What are you saying? Is that you know you were better than these people? I'm not. I'm not saying I'm better. I was pretty out there, you know? I was thinking, God, what the hell was I doing? And I figured it out. But it wouldn't have helped if I'd had a seasoned clinician of 15 years come along and just say, Yeah, you're you're unethical, you're an idiot. You don't build from that.