Yeah, I think thank you for having me, and I'm changing Chen, and I'm so of. Fortunate to have maybe Clark and Dr maybe Clark and John Lankin as my colleague and to work well together at UNLV and and I'm also the current president for the association, Association for assessment and research in counseling, which Dr Clark serve as a past president and so so some of the question Dr Claude just mentioned earlier, like Amber, first generation immigrant Council educator. And so my journey into counseling begin from my time in Taiwan, and began from my element and now elementary school, my undergrad. So the council education training system in Taiwan is different from the United States. So we starting have our four year undergrad Council, council education training. So I begin to, you know, after my undergrad and I serve as a school counselor and also the elementary school teacher, and same as drama in South Korea and and the time hits really hard on me as a school counselor and elementary school teacher in Taiwan is the time, and I feel counseling is not a profession, you know, highly recognized in our culture, and a lot of time our the ministry, our principal, they will just treat counseling as a like a storage room, like a counseling room, as a storage room, and they will use the You know, like a counseling time for the addition academia, preparation, like they will take us, counseling time to, you know, prepare students doing their math, so, you know, Chinese or certain things. Yeah. So, so I do feel is really disrespectful when I try to, you know, doing the individual counseling or group counseling, and I, and I realized, is the whole system issue. It's not something I as a, as a, like a, like an intern of counselor, you know, I can change the whole system. So at some point I feel really, really frustrated, and I quit my job, and I said, okay, one day I will be above you, you know, above the administrative and I will change the whole season. I'm not, I'm not going to fight with you. So this is a time I begin to think of my career to get into the graduate college. So I entered to, you know, the master for for counseling psychology in still in Taiwan. And during my master and I, and I went to ACA for my first ACA conference, and I had a chance to connect so many Council educator and I became to, you know, start to thinking about, maybe I can, you know, study abroad, and since counseling profession is originally, you know, from from the Western culture or from the US, and a lot of articles and journals and even textbook I have been learning in Taiwan is all identical as the United States. So I was beginning to thinking about, yeah, is a good, good, good time. Maybe I need to know, open minded and, you know, try to go adventure. Yeah, so, so why leave me here today is a great question. Yeah, it's very similar, you know, initiative like, like, how John, I just mentioned earlier, like, when you in a different cultural background, you did not think of how many challenges and all, you know, barriers you are going to encounter into leaving or starting or even working in a totally different country. But when I get into, you know, as an international student, I do feel struggle, you know, a lot of language barrier, I mean the counseling profession, the content, I don't feel too much challenge, but it's the like, a lot of pressure and the challenges. Is about culture. Is about how to navigate the totally different culture and in the life experience. And you know, a different chapter is like moving from an international student to the international scholar. Oh, my God, it's totally a different chapter for me to eye opening. You know, like for international student, you have searched certain privilege, you know, you covered your visa is like just student visa, back to the time. And I feel student visa is really kind of protect your your identity. Yeah, but when you try to get into the job market, it's totally different story. And you have to find an institution, they are willing to sponsor your working visa. And after the working visa, you have to worry about your green card status. So just different layer add into your life. And it turns out, you know, it's just a triple, a million, you know, premature pressure, compared to my cohort, you know, from my doctoral program. So, yeah, I yeah, I don't know where I just feel, it's the, it's my like, try to reflect my journey how to become a international scholar. Now this