Board of Police Commissioners, Evening Community Meeting

10:30PM Aug 8, 2024

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Commissioner Banks

Commissioner Bernard

Taura Brown

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Recording in progress. It's 630

is August, the eighth 2024 the board of police commission meeting is called to order. We're going to ask chaplain, Commander Hedy Grady, to come and do the invocation they Online or impress in person.

She's not here, okay, all right, Reverend, can you do the invocation for us? Yeah,

thank you for this honor, yes, sir, giving an honor to God who is the head of my life. Let us pray for those of us who have been impatiently waiting for justice. They ask, how long? How long not long truth crushed, the earth shall rise again.

How long not long

no lie can live forever. How long not long, true, forever on the scaffold. Wrong, forever on the throne. Yet that scaffold sways the future behind the dim unknown, standeth God within the shadows, keeping watch above his own how long? Not long mine mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord. He has trampled out the vintage with the grapes of wrath are stored. He has loosed the faithful lightning of his terrible, Swift sword. His truth is marching on. He has sounded forth the trumpet that shall never call retreat. He is sniffing out the hearts of men before his judgment seat. Oh, be swift, my soul and answer him. Be jubilant, my feet. Our God is marching on. Glory, hallelujah. Glory. Hallelujah. Glory. Hallelujah, his truth is marching on. Thank you. Amen, alright,

um, can you introduce the introduction of commissioners? Uh, Mister Secretary

coming down, seated though. ECBC, you though it should be seated. I

introduction, Mr. Chair Yes sir. Chairperson woods, present mission Bernard,

Attorney Linda Bernard District Two present Commissioner

banks, Commissioner banks

present,

Commissioner Bell, Commissioner card, expert excuse, absent, Commissioner Moore export excuse, absent, Commissioner Hernandez, present, mission, Presley, export and excuse absent commissioners present.

Thank you very kindly. I move for the approval of the agenda.

So move second motion

made by Commissioner Hernandez, second by Commissioner Bernard. All in favor, say, aye, aye. Anyone opposed, the motion is carried. Let the record reflect that Commissioner Smith just made it in its present i Move for approval for or I entertain a motion for the approval of the minutes. So moved second motion made by Commissioner Hernandez and second by Commissioner Bernard. All in favor. Say, aye, aye. Anyone opposed, the motion is carried. Introduction of bopc staff, Chief of Police and elected officials, representatives and community leaders. Yeah.

Good afternoon, Mr. Chair. Current. We have with us. Miss Theresa blossom, Miss Johnny Underwood, Miss artishama Joshua, Miss Jasmine Taylor, supervisor investigator, Angela Cromwell, chief investigator, say he's running a little late. ASL interpreter. Miss Chicago and Doctor Stephanie. Beatty Don hendeside is a court reporter. Sergeant queen is doing the audio and media services during the video sending in for the chief is Deputy Chief, Arnold Williams. Elected officials are Miss Marie overall state representative Tyrone Carter's office. Miss Ladon Davis, Office of council member Freddie du Harley, third and former Commissioner William Davis.

Thank you very kindly. The I'm going to move to the section eight on the agenda so that we can do a resolution and certificate appreciation. We do want to present a resolution to the honorable or the great, Paula tutman, and we asked her to come forward as we present this resolution to her. She's done a phenomenal job in covering police and community relation issues and and has done a powerful documentary that we recommend everybody around this country to watch, and we really deeply appreciate her for that. So if you could come forward, and Commissioner Bell has the resolution, if you saw inclined want to read, or I can read, it doesn't matter, but we do stand at the podium. At the podium, you face you face the people. That's right, Commissioner Bell,

thank you, Chairman, and this is quite an honor and a privilege to have this resolution honoring Paula tutman.

Can you speak in the mic for them? Sorry. Thank you. And

whereas Paula tutman is a multi Emin award winning broadcaster, journalist who joined W di four, TV four in October 1992 which turned out to be a significant time for her in Detroit. After several years covering the police beat community use in Louisville, Kentucky and Baltimore, Maryland, she arrived in Detroit uniquely qualified and ready to find and report compelling news story with element of human interest in social justice, and whereas Miss tutman found many such stories in Detroit and Metro doing but 32 years with local four news, she brought her distinct and other warm voice to reporting breaking news of preach about People and daily lives in her report on crime, she would employ the public to call Crime Stoppers. Land in her first I'm sorry I missed my and to find her gripping no and she stated, cold blooded kills a motor victim come forward in a medium scoop. She come she, she landed her first one on one interview with newly released think on Sanford, who was wrongly convicted of 14 years of being 14 years old, killing four people in 2007 wrongly in prison for nine years. Despise a confession for my known hit man. I'm asking Christian was to read to others,

whereas, before wrapping up her tenure at W, D, I, V, MS, tutman made a documentary that revisited one of her first big news assignments, the brutal beating death of malice green by Detroit plain clothes police officers on november 5, 1992 in front of witnesses in malice, screen portrait of injustice. She documents how the fatal encounter pushed the videotaped Rodney King beating out of the spotlight and made Detroit a symbol for police brutality. The documentary which aired on May 30, 2024 and is available to stream, also shows how the malice green case became known for police accountability when for the first time in history, police officers were arrested charge convicted by a jury and sent to prison for the death of an unarmed black man and whereas malice green and his history making case are featured in the training module on civilian oversight of law enforcement for cadets at the Detroit Police Academy, however, Ms tutman Clearly documents how his case has faded from the Public Knowledge, leaving many una ware of his murder, or the political payback, which included state action to take away recorders court, a city court where only Detroit residents served on juries like that one that found officers, Bud sent and Larry nevers guilty. Her documentary captures how important it is to know and remember history. Her reporting spotlights the new unarmed victims of fatal police violence since 1992 and efforts for a database to ensure a public record. She concludes the documentary with interviews that express how much has changed, how much has not changed, and how much remains for us all to achieve. As stated, We see them die now we see it and move on to the next one.

There so be it resolve that the board, of police commissioner, speaking for the rest of the Detroit and the police department. Honor Paul tutman for her master work of developing and researching and reporting malice, green portrait of injustice, a pinnacle in her distinguished career. The documentary is a must see for Detroit us and all those concerned with the long, hard work of police accountability, community led oversight of law enforcement, just the board. Thank Ms tutman for bringing this to our attention and sharing and with the nation, not just Detroit. Thank you.

Hold on hold on a minute. Hold on a minute. Yep. So I want to entertain a motion to accept, adopt this resolution. So moved second motion made by Commissioner Hernandez, second by commission Bernard. Any discussion?

Nothing but congratulations.

I would say again to you. Ms tutman, this is a revolutionary piece. It has made a tremendous impact. It impact the chief and law enforcement. They need to see these type of stories. And thank you for up lifting this story for the nation to see. And we see that this stuff still goes on in America, and we denounce it to its core, and that's the board of police commissioner. We applaud you for lifting that story up, and we going to continue to advocate for people to get justice, like in the case of Alice green. And I also give you regard saying greetings from prosecutor worth the WHO YOU featured in that piece and being a champion and and taken on that case, and but you have been a voice in this space in many other occasions. So we thank you. So let us present the award to

and I just want to say that I had that privilege and honor to testify in that case, I received so called particle, not a rock particle, that he spoke to, hit the head in hand, and I testified briefly. A man lost his mic because he didn' comply whatever was going on. It was not about cocaine. But therefore, we just want to share that with you

absolutely, and then there being no more discussion, all in favor, say a anyone opposed, The motion is carried you.

I did, Mike,

I used to being on the other side. I just want to say thank you for the honor. You know I, I adopted this community. In this community adopted me right back. This was a difficult project, very difficult. I worked on it for about 16 months, and that means that I was mired in data that was painful and difficult, and it made it hard to function, yet I had to continue to function. I know it impacted the chief and the prosecutor, but I'm also so grateful for having the opportunity to do this kind of work, particularly on my way out the do. So still getting accustom to every day being Saturday, but for you to honor me for this kind of work is is so meaningful to me, it's I appreciate being appreciated. So thank you so very much.

Thank you so much.

Thank you all. Thank you so very much. So do I just take my award and run

whatever you please to do.

Thank you so much. Everyone. Be safe, everybody.

God bless.

Thank you.

I give her a stand. E BA,

hey, powerful,

alright, let's, it's a certificate of appreciation for Mr. James Jackson, Mister Jackson, if he's is he present?

He's not present.

He's not present. Okay, I move that. I entertain a motion that to accept this certificate of appreciation for Mr. James Jackson. Second motion made by commission, second by Commissioner Hernandez. All in favor, say, ay. Anyone opposed the motion is Carrie. We're going to go to the Community Impact Report. Who is doing the community the faculty report,

Mister Chair, chief investigator has not arrived yet. Okay,

alright, thank you. So that's go to the chief of police and and the free and the fifth pre sent report. So we go to the chief of police report command, I mean Deputy Chief Williams

through the chair,

we had no critically injured officers to report crime data as of August 720 24 for homicides, we're down 24 from last year. Last year we had 135. This year we had 159. Non fatal shootings. We're down 108 from last year. Last year we have 406, this I'm sorry, last year, excuse me, I'm reading the wrong columns. Going back to homicide. Last year we had 159 this year we had 135 for now, fatal shootings were down 108 last year, we had 514 this year we've had 406 for robberies. We're down 231 last year. We had 880 this year we had 649 for part one violent crimes. We're also down 11% that's going to translate to 813 less incidents of part one, violent crimes. Last year we had 7778 this year we've had 6965

My eyes are a little bit old for car jackings. Last Last year we had 106 this year we've had 64 we're down 42 car jackings for the year going to mental health related calls. We've had 305 more calls for service responding to persons in crisis than we did last year. And for actual call service, meaning cause that we actually went out to and responded with, we've had an increase of 198 more calls this year than we had last year, one into significant events, looking at fatal shootings on Friday, August 2 at 11:58am officers were dispatch to the 2300 block of Finkel to investigate a fatal shooting. While officers were en route to location, they were notified that the victim was in a 15,000 block of Dale. Officers arrived at the scene and observed the victim suffering from multiple gun shot wounds. Medic 17 respond to location and pronounce the victim deceased on scene, officers from the eight precinct, they held the scene and waited for detectives from the homicide section, homicide, detect us, respond to the scene and conduct a preliminary investigation. Witness is reported hearing three gun shots. The incident still under investigation. If anyone has any information on this incident, we ask that you call one 800 speak up, and that's how you can notify crime, crime stoppers. Or you can notify us online at Detroit rewards.tv again, Detroit rewards.tv the second incident was a death investigation that occur this past Sunday, August 4, 2024 at 11:30pm officers were dispatch to the 14,000 block of Houston Whittier to investigate and observe dead person. Officers arrived on the scene and were in form by witness that the victim was in his apartment. Dead officers enter the victim's apartment. Observe the venom de see the victim, deceas Possibly suffering from blunt force trauma. Officers from the ninth precinct preserve the scene and a wait it for detectives from the homicide section detect, discover that witness is had found the victim in his apartment deceased after not hearing for for several days. They also said that his GM, his gold, G, M, C, U. Con was discovered missing during this time. This incident is also still under investigation. If anyone has any information again, we ask that you contact Crime Stoppers at one 800 speak up or Detroit rewards.tv. Incident Number three was another death investigation. This occur on Monday, August 5, 2024 at 5:36am, officers were dispatch to the 7000 I'm sorry, to the 4700 block of Larkins to investigate and observe their body. Officers rise at the scene and could not locate the could not locate the victim. Officers Canvas the area and discovered an open door in the 4600 block of Lark in officers enter the location and observe the victim sitting in a chair suffer from signs of trauma to her face. Medic arrived on scene pronounce the victim deceased, and units waited for the homicide detectives to respond to the scene. When homicide detectives arrived on the scene, they conduct a preliminary investigation, and they quickly were able to develop a identity of a suspect and make an arrest. However, this incident is still under investigation, and if anyone has any additional additional information, again, we ask that you contact Crime Stoppers at one 800 speak up or Detroit rewards TV.

Can you guys here very well.

Okay, thank you.

Incident Number four, triple shooting. This happened Monday, August 5, at 11:25pm. Officers were dispatch to the 13,000 block of Hazel ridge to investigate a shot spot or Aler of multiple shots being fired at 11:25pm, officers arrived on the scene at 11:27pm, and observed victim number one lying on the ground suffering from a gun shot wound to the head. There were a total of three victims. One was was fatally wounded, and two others were received non fatal, fatal wounds from from being shot. Victim number one was transport to a local hospital where he was pronounced deceased on scene, officers were in form that two additional victims were shot at the scene and privately transported to a local hospital. Victims two and three were both list in stable condition with gun shot wounds to their back. Witness is notified officers at the scene that the suspect had ran back into the location at 1300 block, I'm sorry, 13,000 block of Hazel ridge. Officers form the perimeter and a barricad person was declared. Units from the special response team responded and clear the location. Several individuals was detain, and one person was arrested and conveyed to homicide for question. Detect us from the homicide Task Force are preparing a war request, and this will be submitted to the way county prosecutor's office for review. That's it for the significant events for crime going into community events. We had national night out on August six. We had a lot of rain that took place, so a lot of precinct post po and resched, but there were a number of precincts that actually were able to continue with their planned events. On the six, those precincts that didn't, they conducted theirs on Wednesday. The seven, it was a every event was was really good. It was a lot of community support. It was a lot of people that did come out. But we know that due to that heavy rain on the six, that the number of people that we that we expected, was going to be a little bit less for that make up day on the seven, there was a coffee and cake today for Sergeant Jim or to retire from Detroit police department after 35 years of service. The retirement celebration took place this morning in a sky la room at Detroit Public Safety head quarters, there was a graduation of Detroit Police Department prep on Friday at the well, I'm sorry, this Friday there will be a graduation on Friday at the Detroit Public Safety Academy. We will have a graduation ceremony for 41 you who participated in the Detroit Police Department prep Summer Program. This program taught participants about Detroit Police Department and the opportunities they could have with the department. Emergency Preparedness fair on Saturday, August 10, DP, D in Detroit fire department, the fire department will participate in emergency preparedness fair sponsor by the Detroit Local Emergency Planning Committee and the council and council member, Gabrielle Santiago, Rome, this fear will occur at the EM rec creation center from 10am to 2pm that will conclude the chief's report. Any questions commission?

Her name is, thank

you. Through the Chair, I have, I think, three questions, and I have some due dates, so if you could write these down, that'd be amazing. Number one, I I'll try and articulate the best that I can, and you might be able to help guide me. I don't believe we've gotten an update from risk management, at least in recent memory, and I know that there used to be some level of report out that they gave to the board in terms of just the analytics that they were running behind the scenes. So whether it's risk management or internal investigations, we need some kind of update to know where we are with just current state of officers, and I don't know if there's a specialized report that we need to ask of or if there's already produce data that's available. If there isn't produce data, I think I'd be highly concerned. The second one is just around officer involved shootings. I know there's a forget, if it's either a 45 or 90 day turn around to release any body cam footage. I know that there have been incidents in at least the next the past six months. So is there any kind of time line you could share as to when, when and which videos are upcoming to be released to the public, because I think it would be beneficial for the board to have that kind of notice ahead of time, not only to review the video, but obviously know of its release date. And then the third one is, I, I don't know, maybe we have some in the queue, but we haven't received a whole lot of suspensions without pay requests from the chief in quite some time, and I know that the board has been handling other business as well. I don't say that to say that I'm asking for the suspensions to come in, if they're not coming in, it's a good thing.

There's some next week.

There's some next week. However, if given that there's less volume, are there any kind of trends that are happening as to why we're receiving less? And I know that can seem as a loaded question, but it just seems very odd to me that we don't have that money with all of the activity, with the block parties, with everything that's going on. It just seems very strange that we don't have any kind of incident coming before the board.

What you going to respond to that

through the chair. So two and three are very understandable and clear, and I can 100% relate to make sure you get information for the O is escape right now, whether it 45 or 90, but it is one of those two, right? And I make sure you get that immediately for the risk management or internal affairs. And you said the current state of officers, I may have to get off line to find out what the scope is that you looking for. That's fine, but that's going to be one. I'll have someone we'll communicate to make sure we give you what you're asking for. Okay, yep, perfect. Thank you. You said that there will be a due date with that. So is there a date that you want to buy that we can work with? I

mean, wishful thinking would be next week, but at least for the the last two items, the first one, we can work out again, and I can, I can provide more context as to what I'm looking for. Yep, okay,

yeah. As as relates to some out standard request, there was a memo, random or email that went out to the to the chief and to the department to give us some answers on things that has been unresolved, and we we need those things. We need those things immediately. You know, we need those things resolved. You know, in terms of saying where we at on those unresolved issues. And so, Mr. Brown, if you can re send that email out, and we expect answers on these emails,

through the chair. I have also recorded that, and I will make sure I talk with the chief or the chief staff to make sure they get that those answers to that memo to you absolutely

any further questions.

No further questions of the chief or to Deputy Chief Williams the fifth pre sent report.

Good evening.

Good evening. How

you doing very well,

sir. Thank you for giving me the opportunity. I'd also like to thank the board again for giving me, elevating me to position of command or and the chief for giving me the opportunity to be a part of the number five team. I just going to start off with some with the boundaries of the fifth precinct to the north, 94 to the east is Kingsville. To the south is Mac to alter, and then Jefferson over to Cadillac, and Cadillac on the west, our sister precincts are the seven to the ninth precinct. We have very good relationships with and help each other out significantly. I'm going to go over just some quick stats specific to the fifth precinct. We're down in our 38% in our homicides. We're down 31% in our sexual assault. We're up 19.5% in our aggravated assault. And I will touch on that briefly in a minute. We are even with our non fatal shootings from last year, we're down 40% in our robberies, which was our target crime and our strategy. We even with our car jacking, we're down with our burglaries. We're also down our Lars needs and our motor vehicle theft, things that we're very proud of. Want to touch on our aggravated assault, although we have a spike in the aggravated sauce. There's two different reasons for that. One of the reasons is we had a multiple incidents that happened that had multiple victims, unfortunately, which cause a spike. But another point to our aggravated assault, and it's very, very disturbing if 50 to 48% of our aggravated Assa actually domestic violence related. And to that end, it just it, it's it's dishear, because it's harder to patrol domestic violence. We can't patrol people's bedrooms like we can the streets. So what are we doing about that? We will be bringing the after care program, which is an out REACH program from the Detroit Police Department, which was actually started over in the eight precinct some years ago, and we're going to see that we can get some more help to not only the victims, but also the perpetrators of domestic violence, to see if that we can help stop the recidivism, and hopefully we can save some lives. What do we do in the community? Like the deputy chief mentioned, he did mention, I appreciate he didn't want to, you know, call anybody out, but the fifth precinct was one of the precincts that actually did have our national night out last night, and it was very successful. So very excited about that, and that was through a lot of hard work to our MPOs. Some of the other community work that we do is that did this year was Bike to School Day. We did some active shooter training at James and temple, we always have Police Week walk a mile with the chief. We actually had a police community says summit with a procedural justice and restorative practices. And that was I've been to two of the very helpful. I learned a lot every time I go. We also work with the schools. One of the things, one of the schools we worked with specifically, was Detroit, Mary Charter Academy. They had some incidents which we were very concerned about, and to help them, not only do we have officers there every morning, we also have gave a safety presentation there to the children, so so they could feel comfortable with the police, as well as know some of the do's and don'ts, gun safety is one of our number one priorities. We had a gun lock giveaway in conjunction with the chairman of the Park Conservancy. We also had a Crime Prevention Resource summit that was actually headed up by a radio patrol, which shows how involved the community is in the fifth precinct. Our M, P, O is also hit up our we have a crochet club every fourth Friday, which we are starting back up, as well as our community game night for the end of the year. We will be having our we participating in faith in blue. We also have, we'll be having a code giveaway, and we adopt families at the end of the year. Just to kind of give you just kind of a couple of last notes to think about the fifth officers of the fifth precinct answered, year to date, 28,917 runs. I'm sorry one more time I don't know. Year to date, the fifth precinct answer, 28,917 runs. With the help of other precincts, the total run count for the fifth precinct was 33,436 so just at this time, I just want to thank all the men and women of the fifth precinct for the hard work that they do. Thank you.

Any questions right here. Mister Yep, commission of banks.

Thank you. Thank you, Mister Chair, through the chair. Congratulations on your promotion. Thanks, sir. I remember used to be at my my precinc number 11, Sergeant spruce and D rod, congratulations once again. Now, can the community participate in that? Restor to practice what you, you know, you just talked about, Commander, because that's a very, very powerful program. Shows you how to work out issues and all type of things. Can the community get involved in that? Yes,

yes, sir, 100% and the next one we have, I make sure I get the information to you, sir. Do you know what it's going to be? We, they not set, but we usually have, I think, one or two a year at least. Okay,

thank you. Yes, sir,

that's that's a project with A, C, E, E, yes, sir, absolutely. Okay. Any more questions, comments,

I just want to say with respect to the restorative justice initiatives, they are very outstanding. They are actually the brain child and the out growth of what our brothers and sisters do and have done and who are Native Americans. The whole concept of restorative justice is one that was a Native American concept, and to be a facilitator media, media and those process is you need to be trained. Let me just say this in response to what you said about that. I former Head wait County, neighborhood legal services, and was the first the Legal Services was the first organization to get a grant from the Department of Justice for a restorative justice pop project. We would take people who were had committed misdemeanors, high misdemeanors, low misdemeanors, and we would bring them in the room with the person they had committed the crime against, like if I stole your car, for example. So now I'm, I'm in, I'm, you know, I'm been arrested. I'm a criminal. And you don't realize how, how impactful it is to a person who has committed a crime to hear from his victim, because usually in court, I'm a lawyer. You walk in, the plea deal is cut. You walk in, you sort of walk out. The person who's the victim may have a victim statement, but it's not as impactful as sitting in a room across from the person who stole your car and you lost your job, you couldn't get pay your rent, you couldn't do this for me to tell that person in my own words how what he did to me or she did to me, impacted me. So the this, it is, as I said, it is a Native American concept. It was one actually, that was, you sit in a circle, and everybody in the Native American community sits in one of those chairs, and you have to explain yourself to everybody that's that's there, that's in the circle, like even beating your wife, these kind of things, everything. So I applaud you on this initiative. It's one that has a great heritage, and one, quite frankly, as I said earlier, that you can get funding from from the victim of Crimes Act fund in Washington, DC, from the Department of Justice.

Any more questions or comments? Mr. Chairman, yes, sir,

I just want to say comm in the command, or John and the captain, in reference to out standing job. I have been tend to that form. And just as just since the exception of it, and the last one is really great, we have a whole lot of young folks that participate, if I recall, and something that you can carry on that activity and national light out you, it rain. Did not fight you. You know, fighting you and you had a great turn out. And overall, my mind standing got larger is when I departed. And I want to say that you represent fifth pre sent well at community meeting last night in terms of that type of an 10. And Mister, he says, not having made that opportunity come to come here yet. So I just want to say continuing. And I can't say enough for the N POS, as you well know, they out there. They engage in so many different area for us, day to day. Thank you sir. Appreciate it, sir.

Thank you sir. Yep,

yep. So yeah, I had the pleasure to attend with a C union. And seeing, seeing that is a good model. Also have referred and a citizen should know that when you have conflict some some conflicts with the officers that you can bring in the Assistant Chief as well as other officials in the department to try to resolve a particular conflict with an officer and a community person, so that tool is available to the community. And can you speak to that? You know, because we we're not just talking about a fly by night type thing, but this is something when citizens feel that they have been wrong by the police that don't necessarily, there wasn't nothing violent or anything of that nature. They do have a restorative program, and so speak to that in DC, if you can help him out with that as well.

Commander, yes, sir. So the specific one that A, C, E N, does I think he doesn't try to do him about twice a year. He brings in members of the community as needed, yes, but he has larger one. He brings in across at different times in different parts of the city, where he brings people together, where they are able to see one of the one of the benefits that I get from it, or that I notice as well, because it's not just for the citizens, it's for the police officers to right? So the police officers get to see the citizen side of scenarios, and then this, the citizens get to see the police officer side of scenarios. And I think our last one, even though it wasn't we, I would have like the attendance to be a little higher. I think the people that were there got a lot out of it. We had some like, Commissioner Bell said, we had a young man there who who needed to be there. And after he went through some of the scenarios and playing the police role, he completely said, Well, no, I couldn't do that. And he really understood. And then it's also as well for like, for the police officers when they see, well, people do feel uncomfortable when they get pulled over. People do feel the kind of way when you talk to them, a kind of way. So it is very, very helpful.

Okay. DC,

yeah, through the chair,

Commander John he explained it actually very well. It gives both the police and the citizens a chance to view each other from each other's shoes, if so to speak, it's a very powerful thing. If you've never seen it, you really should take part of it. One of the issues we always seem to have is just participation. So the neighborhood police officers put it out the precincts they put out in different ways. I think this could be another form that we can utilize to put out to make sure we can increase that participation from the citizens coming

in. Yeah, absolutely. And it is not a police driven thing. It's a community based thing. You have community people from the community that's helped facilitate the program train professionals in that area. And you know, sometimes officers was able to correct some of their behavior through this process, and the citizens was able to see it differently as well. So it's not a PR theme for the police department. So, you know, you have to see it to understand it. You know, I just want to emphasize that, having said that, thank you very much, Commander. And again, congratulations to you, and thank you for being here for the community.

Thank you, sir.

Thank you absolutely,

Chief investigators is here. Before we go to public comments, we going to get a report from him, but he is trying to get around, make it around,

yes, through the Chair. Yes, I did get one. Well, for question number two, I got one part of question to have multiple parts to it. But

right now, 45 days is what we try to get. We try to get that OS out, OIS video out, or officer involved shooting out video within 45 days. So that's going to be the other parts I don't have the answer to

right now, absolutely, absolutely. And if you guys can make that information public in terms of how many outstanding or how many videos are coming out, and I would like to see the public being warned before the video is released, so that people can adjust themselves accordingly. You know, because sometimes that could be very, very traumatizing for for families and when, when they experience this type of violence. And so if there's some type of warning that this video will be released on this particular day, instead of just dumping it, because, you know, that could be traumatizing. Are you? You ready for us? Alright, chief investigator,

thank you, Mr. Chair, and to the animal body and again, thank you for you knew I was going to be target because, yes, sir, memorial service for someone very near and dear to me, but thank you for your patience. Not condolences to you. Thank you. Appreciate it. There are a couple of reports that you have in your folder. One relates to the investigative numbers from the month of July, and I think you have the power point there under under tab number four,

maybe five, five, maybe five. Okay.

And I just want to point out a few things in that report. Before we get to what I really want to consider the meat of the matter tonight, you would see that. You see our total number of cases in house is 2197 2197 actually, that number is going down because it was on trend to be at about 2300 tonight, but because of the diligence, and you see it in a minute, and what the investigators are doing, that number is steadily going down. And the one thing I want to point out to you is that on the slide that is titled year to date 2024 you will see a couple of trends, especially as it relates to our July numbers, that this is the first month and Over a year that we have closed over 100 cases in one single month, and hand it in another 98 cases in that month. So total, we have 246 cases that have been investigated in the month of July, and that's all attributed to the increase in our staffing levels that we have, and certainly we want to thank this board for their vigorous pursuit of making sure that we've been fully employed and so we thank you, and that's a direct result of that. The other slide that I want to share with you before I get into my other report relates to sustain the allegations in 2024 because this talks about, literally, how the efforts of the citizen really matter in these investigations, you would see that out of 288 sustain allegations. In other words, 73% the allegations deal with procedure, and there were 209 procedure complaints that we investigated and sustained out of the numbers that we have done from January through July, 6060, coming from demeanor, and another eight for service. And again, as you all are well aware, because we've said it before at this table that the vast majority of those procedure issues are body worn camera issues, whether those body worn cameras were turned off prematurely, whether they weren't on at all, or whether, whether or not they just were not we're not if they weren't operational, because as long as the department Members document the fact that they are operational, not operational, then we they do not get sustain for that. You see the allegations in the break down so you see the numbers, and I think the overall take home message from the numbers is that the new staff are definitely paying off. They're they're they're doing their jobs. Most of them are still in training, but they are investigating cases while they are in training, therefore our back lock is going down as we promised. And there is another document in your folder that is title en title proposal for enhancements to the time list initiative program that I presented to you all back in November of last year, and that document is in your folders as well. And if you don't mind, I just want to read it into the record. If

that's okay, Mr. Chair, you may. I'm

writing to present.

This is something that is going to go through the Finance Committee as well, right? No, this. I

don't think this needs to go through the finance not this one. No, sir. Thank you. Thank you. I'm writing to present a proposal for further enhancement to our time line initiative proposal tip, which was initiated by the Office of the Chief Investigator in November of 2023 the program began with the implementation of a target and concise investigative report format, which combine all reports into one form and reduce typing time from seven hours to two hours per report. Additionally, the successful use of tip report format has resulted in the closure of 282 back log cases due to the observed effectiveness of this new tool. We expanded this application to include all eligible complain investigations beginning in January of 2024 as we continue to build upon the success of tip i purpose a real alignment of our staff and modification of our investigative plan for a target period of six to eight months, doing which we will conduct audits of the modifications every two months. This proposal is a that addressing our current inventory of almost 2200 cases citizen complaints, as well as managing future complaints that would inevitably a rise during this operational period to effectively navigate this inventory, I suggest the following revisions to the structure and focus of tip. First of all, as relates to staffing, we would divide our investigators into four distinct work groups to stream line process, ease and improve response time. Team number one, which will be made up of four new investigators, meaning one to six months on, on the job, will focus on addressing back law complain investigations from years 2021, and 2022, that represents approximately 400 cases. Team number two, our experience investigators who have at least one year and above will investigate and close all remaining 2023 complaint investigations, as well as new complain investigations that are coming to the office that are received after August the 31st and that's approx about 900 cases. Team number three will be comprised of four new investigators that are six months or to one year of experience, and these are assigned to handle complain investigation is received from January the first 2024 through May the 31st 2024 and that's approximately 600 cases. Our team number four are for new investigators with one to six months of experience, and they will be tasked with over seeing complain investigations accumulated from June the first through August the 31st which is approximately 300 cases. We will init you in take process as well to increase the efficiency and production of case investigations by conducting a preliminary investigation and categorizing complaints according to their unique concerns. Each complain shall be assessed to determine the level of resources needed and the proper investigative approach to implement a Thor and time the resolution to the case. The the investigative plan here is what we would like to do to expedite the resolution of investigations from 2021 2022 and 2023 cases. Our focus would be narrowed to the specific allegations and circumstances as detailed in the citizen complain report, along with statements from the complaints and their identified witness is in strict adherence to the Office of the Chief investigators standard operating procedures, we will continue to document and track any additional information and findings in the investigative report. More over should additional allegations emerge during our investigations, they will be formally documented and reported to both the board of police commissioners and the Detroit Police Department this ensures transparency and accountability in our process. Is the office of the chief investigator will also supply DPD leadership with concrete data concerning emerging trends, which will enable them to offer necessary training opportunities to their officers, ultimately improving service delivery. Thank you for your continuous support and commitment to the Office of the Chief Investigator.

Absolutely question, yes, sir, Commissioner Hernandez,

thank you through the Chair. I just appreciate how thoro The approach is and the enhancements. I read them prior to today, and I've been very impressed. The only question that I have, ironically is in the last paragraph, you're speaking about what we as a board and you as the chief investigator will provide DPD. What is the ask of what we want DPD to provide to us to further facilitate this process. Is there anything? There is nothing

we what we're doing is letting you know that what we we're going to make, we're going to still look at additional information, right? But we're going to do, we're going to put in a different format and and so when you get your cases now, you see it in a different format, it'll be in a tally type form, and we'll be able to tally the that information up, send it to you and to the department so that they can have appropriate training where needed. Right now, what we know ongoing is that there is training going on doing roll call for certain issues. Some of those issues are issues that we are encountering during our investigation, such as body worn camera, such as vaping while on duty and and those have been raised to the level where the department has responded expeditiously to make sure that their officers are reminded of DPD policy. Okay?

And then, if you allow me just a secondary comment, I appreciate your commitment to being here. Obviously we had previous notice that you would be potentially tardy, so I just I commend you for it. Thank you. Thank you.

Commission Bernard, Hi, boss. I

want to thank you for a very Thor report. But my concern relates actually to the reasons for the complaints, as you pointed out, they really fall in three categories, principally as a matter of fact, I think I just added it up. 242 of them fall in three categories, demeanor, procedure and service. So the problem, I think, is that, since the complaints are falling in these categories, and as the officers and and as the commanders in the room and Deputy Chief know, every time there's a complain against you, it goes in your record like it would anywhere else, a school teacher, anyone else, and many times those allegations are then either sustained or not sustained, meaning they're substant or not substantiated, but it's in the officers interest to not get the complaint in the first place. So therefore, what I suggest is that because we had 242 of these allegations, just in the month of July, in those three categories, that it might be something that the chief might want to consider to to do some re training of all officers regarding those three things, the policies are different. I mean, I chair the policy committee. The the chair of the board is also a member of that committee, and many of the policies are are very, very clear. For example, with patrol, before you ask a person for their license and registration, you have to tell them why you stopped them. I pull your you ran that light over there. You You turn the right. And didn't signal whatever it is you did that's not being done. That's a violation, for example, of procedure and service. So that would be two complaints that could be lodged against the officer. So I really think that these issues, at least, has been my experience in business and so forth. Sometimes people need some re training on the real super basics that, em you always get to train on guns and all that kind of stuff, and obviously body worn cameras. That's the easy one. But the other, the other issues when you stop a person that you're supposed to tell them why you stop them before you ask them for their license and registration, that's what the manual says, I just, we just approve the policy a week ago to go back. I mean, it's already your policy, and I didn't have any changes in the policy, neither did the chairman. So I really think to cure this problem, I think that re training is appropriate and necessary. It's what I would want if I was a lawyer and I was constantly making dumb mistakes. As a lawyer, I want you. I like the RE training. Sometimes we need a refresh. So

do you have a question that was just your comment to the chief investigator, not

just the chief invest, to the deputy chief? Absolutely. I mean, because this makes no sense, this cost, time, money, aggravation, and more importantly, it affects your record. I I don't want black marks in my record. I don't know how you all feel, but I don't want any so sometimes I may need a refresh or on what it is I'm supposed to do, you know, like Linda, you supposed to do this. The summons is supposed to be on top of the complaint, whatever it is that I did wrong. But, I mean, I just think the training needs to be refreshed. Thank you, Mr. Chair, yep.

Commission. The was,

thank you, Mr. Chair,

thanks. Yes.

I just have a quick question. I'm trying to understand when you develop these teams, team 123, and four, I see that you are giving them cases based upon a period of time. And I'm wondering, was there consideration given, because you're saying that the they would be new investigators with one to six months, six months or more, based on the team that they're on, is, is there some rational for and could you give me an idea of what that is? I would think that teams that are made up of more than six months would have higher level cases that would be more difficult because they have more experience, but I'm just trying to understand your rational through the

Chair and thank you, Commissioner du was for that question. You're absolutely right. What we did was we beta tested this process late last year and at the beginning of this year, and we beta test it with our new investigators. And one of the things that we found out very quickly was that our new investigators were out performing as relates to being able to close, do gar the interviews, along with the new form that we created, we able to really close these cases and do their investigations in a much improved time format. So the training that they get is up to six months initially, and it goes on from there. But in those first six months is where they get the hands on training they need to close these cases. And right now we have 12, sorry, 10 in training, 10 investigators in training, and they are doing a phenomenal job, as you see by the numbers in the report. So we started to be the test this program within saw that it was very successful, and so we rolled it out to the rest. Now the numbers that are for the 2023, those cases are, will be done by our more experience investigators, because as we look at the data, and it was as we looked at those cases, those cases are much more involved. They have questions that those with experience will be able to solve a lot quicker than those who are less experience. And so that's why we put those cases with our more experience investigators. You're absolutely right.

Okay, thank you. Thank you, man. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

I so any other Oh, no, commission of bank sat and you want to respond to something

through the chair? If I could, yes, sir, I would like to just make a quick response to some of the comments that commission Bernard made. So one of the things that we do is we do have training, and I think everybody on the board is aware of the yearly training we have for officers, and then we look at trends, and that's where our roll call training comes up, where the chief investigator was speaking of when we notice trends, when we see that it's an increase in demeanor complaints or an increase in procedure or service complaints, we make sure that we push that out for roll call training and additional we have another thing, and this is goes back to we were talking about a risk mitigation we have a system, or software based system, that basically monitors our officers. It looks at the number of complaints they have, and based on number of complaints, it will generate a mandatory meeting between those officers in their command. During that meeting, we'll monitor the officers and determine if they need any further training or any extra thing that they need to try to help them if we see a trend in a negative for negative behavior, we also have a system called Pierce plus, which which is another layer. So if we see officers that may be problematic, they may have some they may be trending in a behavior that we like, you know, if they continue this way, it could negatively affect their career. We literally bring in a system where we have the assistant chiefs, the deputy chiefs, and I saying all the assistant chiefs, all the deput chiefs, as well as the officers command and the officer, supervisors come down, and we come up with a plan to help that officer, to try to make sure we're mitigating or decreasing those complaints to come up before anything very negative happens to the officer. So we're literally, basically in the business, like you said, Commissioner, to make sure those officers careers are great. So we do have those things in place. And I just wanted to make sure I said that. And the chief investigator, he put that out, but I wanted to make sure I added to that

mention the bank. Thank you through the chair chief. First of all, I saw many of your accomplishments on last week in the binder. You looking good. Good job. And now that we fully staffed, now that we fully staff, where do we stand in the back log?

Great question. And thank you for that question. Where we stand in the in the back log, the back log is now, for the very first time, beginning to start to decrease. Wow. And so as a result. And then you have the numbers in your bin. In your binders, and the very direct result of that is the number of investigators that we have on staff. One of the things that I fail to mention in my report is the addition of our new case management system. We are in the process right now of meeting to build our case management system so that our go live. Date with that system. It will be September. The 16 will be fully operational, and so but we are we have another meeting. Tomorrow will be our third meeting with the company, as we are customizing the system for our very specific needs. And so that will also further enhance the number of cases that we are able to investigate and saw in an expeditious manner, thoro and expeditious man, thank you. I'm

all set. I'm all set. Mister Chair,

through the chair, yes, sir,

I'll make a motion to adopt the chief investigator's proposal for enhancements to the timelines Initiative Program, otherwise known as tip.

Second motion made to to to adopt the proposal enhancement to the time willingness Initiative Program. And is a motion made by Commissioner Hernandez and second by commission Bernard. All in favor, say A and one opposed motion is Carrie. Thank you very much. Mr. Chair, yes, sir. If I can

be recognized, I do want to app price the board that today we did receive the resignation of one of our investigators who has been with us for two years, and that is investigator Henry Ellis, resign today from the position, and so we have another vacancy on the board. I mean, with our investigators, we

refer that to the person now to train the committee, and we want to fill that position as up we have saw, saw a lot of interest in those positions, and we're going to continue to maintain the flow. And I wanted this also applaud you as well. And we've been working very, very diligently and hard to make sure that the citizens complain are getting responded to. And that's why, through the personnel the training committee and the special personnel training committee that we roll up our sleeves to make sure that we staff this board or or with this, this organization, with the investigators, and we're going to continue that, and you're going to be very, very, very happy with some of the proposals that we have coming in the near, near future, to be able to continue to help serve the citizens of the city of Detroit. Having said that, let's go to public comments.

Mr. Chair, currently we have 11 speakers. I call those in attendance, Minister Eric blunt, followed by Ms power Brown, followed by Ms Victor Camil,

good afternoon again, or good evening board. Do I get an extra two minutes for my prayer? Yes, sir. I need to ask Yes, sir, but I do want to thank you, chair person woods for putting forth a resolution that had nothing to do with the police officers performance. That's DPD job. But if you're looking for more, there are more war years out here than you may know. For example, Lonnie Pete, he was the one along with Rosa Parks and Ken cock crow senior, who instituted and executed the Al years motel tribunal, knowing that the injustice system would not work for black people, they made It happen at the Shrine of the Black madon, if you looking for another one. Ron Scott, my mentor here posthumously, could receive an award and maybe even a statu. That's just my opinion. The other thing is, stop letting the chief or even the precincts, ramble on and on about crime data, crime statistics, incidences of crime. We are here for police officer misconduc This is precious and sacred time for Commissioner. Hernandez, you're right. Risk Management should give us a report every week, along with turn of affairs, but also add in the gig Le O Bradley list those officers who have lied so much that they can no longer testify in a court of law training no matter what kind of training you do, it will always be minimized by the union contract. The 2022 union contract for the Detroit Police officers said that their discip cannot be a consideration in their promotion. This is systemic. This promotes bad cops, no matter what they do. I time I thought you said

I gave you 30 extra seconds. Miss Brown, good

evening. Commission. My name is Tara Brown, and I'm with Detroit eviction defense. I came and spoke to you all a couple weeks ago about Sherman Butler who was murdered on July 12 by a bail of from the 36 District Court. This afternoon, I got a chance to speak to his mother. She still has no answers. She knows about as much about this case as the public does right now, the public wants an un edited police body cam video of all officers present at the time of Sherman Butler's murder, the official police report from Sherman Butler's murder notes from the note pads of all the officers present, the name and the bad number of all DPD officers present, particularly the one that taste mister Butler. Mister Butler was the person. He's been referred to as the man, the 10 at the one of the meetings, the suspect, the victim. Nobody says his name. Nobody knows what he looks like this. This is Sherman Butler. This is him. He was a person. He had a family. He had kids. He has a mother who can't even grieve over him because she can't get him in the ground because his body, I believe, was just released to her. He was killed on July 12. This is ridiculous, and to make his mother wait 45 days for what to know what happened to her son and to see a body camera is absolutely ridiculous. I don't care what side you are on, whether you like the police or you don't. I think everybody in this room who has a child has no plans of out living their child and to think that your child's last minutes were being put out of their house in a room full of people that were against them after they have been taste for a bail if who should have been moving your furniture and not even trying to assist the Detroit Police to shoot them several times in the CHES. He wasn't shot just one time in the CHES. He was shot several times in the in the CHES. He is a person, and he deserves justice. He deserves for his case to be work like everybody else, and his mother deserves to see somebody punished for murdering her son. Thank you. You

the Chair if I could, yes, Deputy Chief. So

one thing we'll do, I'll check with homicide to make sure that if the mother hasn't received any information on a case, why she has not, and if she is required to have it, I'll make sure that that does happen, because she should receive that information. The second piece is, for the 45 days that's really not going to go into this is instant incident, because it was not a officer involved shooting where DPD fired shots. It was the actual bail, if who's a agent of 36 District Court. And the other piece is, because it's a homicide case, that information is going to still be held until that case is decided. So that's probably that's why that's not going to be released, but our 100% make sure that the mother gets notification. Right after this, I'll contact our detective brew.

You may be hurt.

Evening board, Victoria Camil, district seven and the Coalition for police transparency and accountability. So first regarding OCI is tip process, what the board OCI and the public needs is for DPD to be transparent about what they did in response to each sustain allegation. That's what you need from DPD. That's not what I came to talk about today. I came to talk about Sherman Lee Butler, as was discussed, was murdered on July 12. The Justice Coalition for Sherman Lee Butler demands all UN edited DPD body worn camera footage be released, despite what the department is saying. In addition, we demand that this murder be independently investigated, not by DPD. DPD was present and is a suspected a complex in this murder. This strategy should make us all stop and seriously think about our collective values. We are talking about property, a thing, an object. The value of property has supersed the value of human life. I bet that if any one of us in here were being removed from the place that we call home, no matter what the condition of it, we will go into some level of mental distress, and if that's what was going on, why didn DPD tell the bailiff to stand down, to leave, to back off and explore a human solution to the issue. But instead, the situation was escalated to the point where we had a tenant be murdered by a bailiff during the course of an eviction. And that's outrageous. Wo to him who builds a town by blood and establishes a city by unrighteousness. Habakkuk, 212 do police have constitutional duty to collect the to protect the public? There are court rulings that indicate that they do not. Wasn't Mr. Butler a member of the public. Did the police protect him? Or was the officer there to protect the bail? If who was there to protect property?

Mr. Chair, your next set of speakers would be election integrity rule, followed by Ms Brenda Butler, followed by MS, one council. I

Okay, I come before you today with two matters. One, important, DPD, case two, zero, da, 1112, commission. Bernard, you have a request to report as long as as well as chairman woods and inter Secretary Brown, y'all have all requested the mic chicken state police report. None of you have received it. So today I'm going to ask that somebody make a motion to subpoena the report. It's a closed case file, label, classified tag is suicide. Now I want to ni ne wants what she wants. She wants them. She asked me, Mr. Ru i want them to stop saying my mama killed herself. Ken, is she? Coman did not shoot herself. The physical evidence proves it that report for the Michigan State Police should indicate that and the tag needs to come off of her. Now I want to jump to the next matter that's more serious to all of us in this room. They have been caught cheating blue handed at the Department of Elections in elections 2020, 2021, 2022, and 2024 and evidence is I and clad concrete I, refutable proof and evidence that absentee ballot vote of fraud has been occurring and happening in Detroit elections. They can't even lie. They way out of this. One court case two, colon two, four, da C V. Federal court case, two. Colon two, four, da, C, v1, 1072, out, lines and details with proof and evidence the fact that John fit zero, Kennedy the third has never, ever registered to vote or vote in any election, anywhere at any time. I want to switch back to what need wants commission. Bernard, can you today put forth a motion to subpoena the Michigan State Police Report? I'm sure it can be seconded by somebody. Will Bill stood in the way of that report that case. DPD, two, zero. Dash, 11112,

thank you. Next speaker, Mister

Chairman, in response to the speaker who has actually spoken about this for about two years, as I recall, I am I'm happy to make that motion. The the reason why it's important, Mr. Speaker, is that this young woman who was killed, who was not a suicide. Wait, let

me just finish. Then I will advise you not to say

that. I'm not just saying, well, the Detroit Police Department mean, and the State Police said, but we don't know. Okay. But anyway, in any event, I understand that. Let me just say this, the young woman, her family, cannot have closure on this issue. They cannot get the life insurance paid on the woman. They get anything? No, they get the police report commission. That's my point. Let

me warn you not to say anything like that. That is I responsible. We cannot make those type of statements. We haven't read anything, and that would be wrong. Mr.

Chair, we've asked to read we have been requested, excuse me.

So we don't know what a report say. We haven't read any reports. We don't have a report, excuse me. And so we will continue to work to be able to get that report where it could be F a, you know, and so we, we're working towards, excuse me. Thank Excuse me. She didn' Make a motion. No excuse make a motion. Excuse me. Well, it's not been recognized. Um, next should not be doing public comment right now. Let's finish doing public comment.

Ms Butler,

let's next public comment or miss. But

good evening to the board. Good evening. Good evening to my fellow neighbors and officers from the field precinct. My name is Brenda, but CO minus daughter. I am a resident here in District Four. I live in the Chandler Park neighborhood. I first would like to congratulate you, Chair wood on your position as the chair person of this commission for two years, we in this community has put a request in to this commission For a presentation from our DPD on. No, not war to our community. We have not received it. We need to know why the last everybody that's sitting here on this board that was elected in the last election they have heard this request, or the people who have been rotated should should know about this request, will be BA is our commissioner. He was the first one who replied to us and said that he would have this done. And it has not been done. It is very important that our community know the guidelines of a no, not war. We go the police department goes into the community and to the schools teaching our kids about the law, but who gets killed doing no knock warrant our children. So we need this request to be answered like yesterday. Yes, yes, ma'am. Thank you so very much. Commission, have a great evening.

Hold on one minute. Commission her. Nand is Deputy Chief

through the chair the Detroit Police Department and chief white. We don't do no knock warrants. We don't

but it is the law here in Michigan, and it has been established that is the law. And you guys may not have been doing some no knock warrants, but it is the law in Michigan. So if it's the law in Michigan, then that means that you guys have a guide line on what you would do in that case. And we have had no knock warrant in our city.

So when

we not, when we execute a war Knock, and we announce that's our policy, because we know the danger of no knocks, and that's 100%

our chief director. And so what they, if I can help you out with this, what they trying to, what they trying to do is get policy on a state level. Stephanie, Senator, Stephanie chain has legislation in to ban that throughout the state, but the city of Detroit has a policy that's against no knock war on and there are several other municipalities who put together policies to ban no knock warrant. So Detroit has banned that through its policies. It's online.

It's online. All of our policy, every single policy that the police department is, is is required to follow, is online. They're all on our website. You can pull it up, anything use of force, anything you're interested in, search warrants, everything there's we're totally transparent about the police department's policies. Thank

you so much for that permission, Bernard, but you were the main one that said that you would get back to me about my out the community's request, and you have not. So if you knew that answer, you could have gotten back with me, because you all have my email address and you have my phone,

let me ask, let me, let me ask you Deputy Chief, and can you have the commander work with her and to be able to show the the the policy, DPD policy at the fifth pre sent anybody who want to be able to view this and have a discussion in terms of the position that we have taken as the city of Detroit Police Department to ban no knock warrants.

Thank you, Chair wood, and I would suggest it be done in all precincts. Well, all precinct Community Council meetings this should be discussed.

Mister Chairman,

yes, let me

Yeah, through the chair 100% we'll make sure that the fifth precinct, they'll get they'll get with you, their leadership, and they'll make sure that they explain to you anything that you need to know what our policy is as far as exec warrants. Thank you. Sam, any question at any community meeting can be raised our, our just, just for just so I can say it. Every precinct holds a community meeting once a

month, I go to them, sir, I understand if you ask the question, yes, I did. You should get an answer, and if I haven't gotten one, that's why I'm standing here today. Okay, okay,

we're going to get one commission about

I just want to say Ms Butler been raising that issue two or three years, and it's not an issue with the fifth priest and police community meeting, but I will work with command John son to put that on the agenda once again, to respond to collectively. And I guess we going to have some form of documentation that you hear loud and clear. There's no policy, no policy. I'm not ducking the issue, the concern,

but you didn't answer, Mr. Commissioner. Ba, not a, okay, that's all I'm saying. You didn't answer. So

the commission is speaking. I

think, Okay,

I just want to say that it's been an issue with you for two or three years. I have responded over and over again. No, you have not. Excuse me, I will work with command and put it on the agenda for the next fifth community vision meeting. We make specific topic we dealing with that as simple as that, there's no policy.

Yeah, it is a policy that Ban said, advance it, and so we'll make sure you get that policy. Thank you very much. Thank

you so much. Chairman wood, we will, but I wouldn't be standing here if I had already had an answer. You will get that policy. Thank you so much. Yes, ma'am. This council

followed by Dan whit Smith,

good evening. I am the one counsel. I am the founder of feed your neighborhood.

Microphone, good evening. Thank you.

I am law and council. I am the founder of feed your neighborhood. Our organization owns a community hub at 5118, alter road on July 15, we realized that an in tutor had made his home in our commercial register community hub, the police came officers, Bishop Taylor, going Mitchell and for and they helped us to remove the intruder. We changed the locks. I called the police, August, 2, fifth, six and seven, and today, the Eight. And now i here because this in Twitter is still in our home. We do not have a police report. The gentleman who came to the house that day didn't make a report. We have been to the fifth precinct yesterday. They told us to go back to the property. We waited 27 minutes for nobody to show up. This gentleman has stolen 1000s of dollars worth of donations that we donate to the community. We have a full giveaway right behind the fifth precinct on Mac encounter. So first and third Monday, we serve many police officers. At that time, we are anchor in our community. I want to know what are we not doing Correct? Mr. Mr. Wood, it seems that you have lots of answers. What are we not doing Correct? As we report this issue, I am a partner with the fifth precinct. I'm a partner with Cease fire. We use our properties to house gun violence victims to keep them safe. What am I not doing to get some basic respect? Mister BA has given me a community service war in 2019 for our community advocacy. What I doing wrong?

It's a question, Deputy Chief, through the chair. Everything you saying is, is very troubling to me. Oh to you, no. And just so you know, ma'am, I am not trying to make light of this at all. I see your an I see your frustration. It's pain, and I want, I want you to know that right now, we have both the captain and the command from the fifth precinct here. I don't know if you had a chance to talk to him yet, but you'll be talking to him before you leave, definitely. And we're going to try and bring a resolution to this today, today before we get out of here. So right after you get from the podium, they'll get your information, and they're going to give it to me, and I'm going to do a follow up tomorrow morning and make sure

that you square it away. Thank

you. Thank you. Next speaker, Mr.

Smith, followed by Ms Angel, good

afternoon. My

name is Jante Smith. I did not appreciate two officer sitting next to me. Now that was really weird. It's very intimidating for somebody young and black, especially with the crime statistics we have in the way we have these issues. But I want to give a shout out to commission or more. No, he not here for his his request into the cases of that detective that the to use these disparaging tactics to get coer confessions. I want to say I organized a Detroit eviction defense. I want to talk about Sherman butler and the fact that that body cam footage has not been released. The fact that we had commissioners go to the scene. We had brass on the scene of that shooting lets me know that that was important to you all, and that foot it should be released. I want to talk about the fact that I asked at the mayor charter man day meeting, how many tow trucks the city of Detroit had for their flee. And I got an answer of 12 to 15. There was a captain Adams who was on the to rate commission. He said there are 17 tow trucks in the fleet, which is very disparaging. How does, how does nobody in the brass know how many tow trucks they have? And I can tell you from a one Captain Adams, who was lower than the deputy chief, who were almost all in attendance at that meeting, also want to say, I have never seen a motion been shot down on this commission. I am very sad. Did he see that commission woods? I'm very, very sad to see you shoot down emotion and not let it be second, not let it be discussed or anything. I mean, you can. You can shut down discussion that may be I proper, but to shut down emotion is not up holding your duty in the in your role. Um, also, want to say, also, officers deter people from filing complaints inside of precincts. They try to make it as though it's not a good idea to file a complain. That's that's a problem. Also, I have still not talked to internal affairs for our for Lieutenant co then that suspension, I would like to see him fire. He's not going to be the he's not the first. He's not the first, not going to be the last. And Deputy Chief, I don't know if you can get me in contact, but Deputy Chief has told me I was supposed to get a call from internal affairs. I have not received that call. Like to talk to somebody about that. I would like to talk to somebody from internal affairs before the end of the week, by tomorrow, because this is very important. That man told me ridiculous things. He told me I was organizing with suburban nights. I was protesting NAACP. And I've been or not in the city for 10 years, and that man just knows nothing about me. He's a sub urban Knight.

Thank you. Next speaker, Miss

Kane, followed by Ms Selena will

Hello, everyone. Hello. I'm here today to make a complain with the homicide department microphone. What homicide department can you hear me now? Yes, okay, well, my son was murdered March eight of 2020 sorry to hear that. And Sergeant Beasley was the the homicide detective on that case, and I haven't heard from him since 2021 and it is 2024 and I'm calling to because I have the video of my son being shot. And he said he has the video of my son being shot, but it was supposed to been two different times. I have been the Crime Stopper. I've been on television all that my family deserve closure, and we have not heard from him since 2001 I have car down there. Talk to whoever's in charge. Was down there. They were supposed to get with him. Prime stopper has reached out to him, and they talked to him. He was supposed to get with me. I still haven't missed this. 2024 and my son would be gone now for four years at the end of this year. So what else can I do to get help and to help to get closure?

Let me say this, just let me say this. And you hold there. You know it's absolutely unacceptable. If you have not heard from your detective in that amount of time, it is absolutely unacceptable that I am definitely, absolutely per if that has happened that angers me, you deserve better than that command Deputy Chief,

so I have officer in the back. He's going to take your name, he'll get your phone number as well. Uh, I'll reach out to Hamsa and I'll make sure someone gives you a call and gives you

an update. Okay? Because I don't want y'all just to tell me this. No, it

is absolutely unacceptable. It is unacceptable. I am I am so sorry. If that has happened, if you haven't heard from your detective, I am so sorry, and that is unacceptable. You deserve better than that, as a mother who lost her child, you know, and I'm so sorry if that has happened, and we expect you to get an answer immediately.

I hope appreciate that you do, because we deserve closure. That's my baby. Commissioner, yes. Ma'am, what is your son's name? Jonas Williams,

William. Jonas Jonas Williams, and the time of death, please. The date of death.

The date of death is December eight, 2020

and Jonas Williams, yes.

And then, like I wanted to say this too, yes, quick, yes, ma'am. Now I have a video of my son being shot detect the sergeant Beasley says he has a tape. And I asked him if I can come down there to see the tape and I would bring mine, which I have given him mine through the email, and I have not received anything, but what he had them put on Crime Stopper here, false information. Videos, don't lie, but this did

so commission.

I'm sorry. I just want to ask, because I work with you all, with the families a lot, and dealing with crime stoppers. Did you do a personal interview with Crime Stoppers where you can give your own paragraph and your own information and that three times, and that information that you gave them was not placed on the fly, and at the time, who did you deal with that Crime

Stopper. Um, Anthony Jackson,

I think Jones. Jones there, Anthony. Okay, and now I believe it's No, he's not there. Now, George Williams, I think. But first name George, who's over there? Okay,

thank not on TV too. Yeah,

I remember you. I just didn deal with so many people, so I didn't know your loved one's name. My deepest condolence is to you, and I'm myself personally. I check into it. I

just need some help. Thank you. I can get this en closure, the officer

right back there, he'll get your information. I'll make sure somebody reach out. Okay,

thank you. Ms will is follow by MS, Stacy Rees, you good

evening. Good evening.

My name is Selena. Will us. My son, Canary will us, was murdered on troster New Year's Day, 8:35am, um, so sorry to hear that Paul Brown was on his case, and very good detective, I will say he was really compassionate about my son. And after I'll say, maybe the first six months or year, or whatever. He was promoted several times and moved on. We did a meeting my husband. This is his twin sister, Ken. A will us? Um, yeah, we did a meeting with the homicide unit. It was early, 2022 with Serge and Thur kill. Matthew Boden and I was introduced to Tod the way, who was on the who got the case at that time. It just seemed like he was just basically briefed on the case. However, from that day to this one, we've done three press conferences with Anthony Jones. Very good guy, compassionate again. To Lloyd, was just brief every time I'm calling, you know, to see if anything was found out about my son's case. Just real brief. No, this just nothing. So I've had several conversations with him. Last year at WC three, my husband and I went to a conference. They had the chief of police there. I was on my lunch break. However, everyone else was able to speak. We had two minutes, and the lady before me, they went for her story, and I didn't get to get her the press conference that was there. Geral Hall saw me running after because I didn't get my turn, and I had the waiting like again, I was on my lunch break, so he pulled me off to the side and tried to connect me with someone that would help the next month. About few days later, Officer lo a called still basically nothing, okay, so fast forwarding. That's 2023 two weeks ago, I was driving my husband to work after being up from the hospital first day out and I went, I just must happen to turn down the street the photo that I was shown previously of the person of interest at the time. You know that face I never forget as a mother I saw at 4:28pm, I place the call so Ty low eight and got the voice mail. I called 911, was on the phone with them for two minutes, pleading like, what will I I can't believe this even happened, that I see this person that they just supposed to be looking for, or whatever, two whole minutes. And the young lady I just doing her job, asked me for the address. He was at the same house that the MS on January 5 that I went to to speak to the girl that called the MS to pick up my son who died at Saint John hospital. From that day to this one, I have not heard from anyone. I called the next day on the 17 and spoke with another officer at Lloyd's number. And

so when is the last time you heard from any detective? I haven't. You haven't. I have not, and that's unacceptable as well.

I have not. I talked to ALD Rich, who I asked him to get in touch with Paul Brown, or have Louis call me. This was July 17 that I spoke with him. And AUD George is a detective. Yeah, when I called Ty le waits number, the detective that's supposed to be on the case now, he never called back to L, L, I mean, so

no one, nobody did connect with you and say hi, hi. I'm not. No nothing. Uh, Deputy Chief,

yes, ma'am, I am sorry to hear that. And we're going to have officer back there. He's going to get your name and he's going to get your number. We're going to make sure somebody gives you a call and gives you an update on where we stand. Yeah, we'll make sure that you also get receive periodic updates, and I before everyone who stepped up and had the What's your name? I'm Deputy Chief Arnold Williams. Okay,

so who am I speaking to now, I'm sorry, right? I can't see the the date that it happened is that this year,

no, this happened two, New Year's Day, 835, on the east side, on trouser street. Oh, what? Seven minute

31st 2023

New Year's Day, oh, January 1. January 1. 2021

2021 okay, my

son was 17 years old. This is his twin sister, panari. Will us?

Okay, alright, Deputy Chief that has to be fixed in terms of making sure that those who have been victimized, their case is not resolved. They should get fear a currency call. I know that there has been a move to be able to help fix that system, but here we see it still broken. You. If you have not received any updates, you should get periodic updates.

But even two weeks ago, when I called and I spoke with another officer who answer the detect that supposed to be on the case now a rich he didn't call me back. I A hear from Paul Brown since they I guess he got promoted to whatever he is now, and nothing, not even to follow up, I tell you, I seen the Person of Interest. Three years later, my son been gone three years they would be having a 21st birthday this year. Yes, ma'am,

we and they, they, they going to get that information. You going to hear from Homicide. You going to follow up and you can have, you can get my, my number, okay, and, and whatever we can do to make sure that you are getting updates that we going to do that,

even if I call them, they could answer, you know what I'm saying? Yes, yes, it the guy is still out here. We have no, no closure, no no nothing. It just like once, Paul Brown, don't deserve that.

You don't deserve that. And I'm sorry that that's happening and it's going to get fixed.

You promise.

I promise you that. Okay? And

through the Chair, if I may, the officer back there, he's going to get your information. He'll get your number. You'll be getting a call from Homicide. You also begin a call from me to make sure you got some information. Then to over there. No, I'm going to call you and give you Okay, okay, any card, alright? Um, if you, if you want to be patient afterwards, I have card to my car 100% make sure I patient. We're going to square this away. Gonna make sure everybody here receives that information, receive those periodic updates. And there's no excuse that even though we have promotions and people move on that Well, I

still thought that he was over the the homicide team, but I believe because of the situation surrounding the case, is why the communication with him was cut off. But however, even with Tod, L, L, he should have been able to follow up. I left a voice mail. I'm telling I didn't told 911, I seen the guy that y'all looking for. And nobody should, it

should have been a response to that, and someone should have got now, I don't have the answer right now, but 100% that's something that we'll be looking into. Yes,

like I said last year, with malice. SHA, ba, so that's around the time that it was, what was that made June at WC three downtown, yeah, okay, on my lunch break, I didn' Get, get to have my two minutes like now. So I appreciate y'all listening, but we,

we extended that for you, and we, yes, you have sensitive and I apologize to the community, but I don't apologize. You know, this woman has a very serious issue, and we, I personally, we will work with you. We will work with you, you know, to make sure that there is communication. And so you go talk to the officer now and just wait here and you have his information as well as my information, anyone, any other Commissioner, we want to give you the information you we're here to support you.

Thank you. I appreciate Commissioner. And then we move to the next for all those

who are here who have been victimized, and such as yourself, have not received the information, if you can wait afterwards so that we can get you know exchange information, yes, and I personally will walk into homicide to make sure that I speak to whomever it is that's over your case right forward, so I can know myself that I spoke with someone, and my deepest condolence is to you and anyone in the room who has been affected, right? And so happened. This is my sister in law. She lost her son in December, and then my, you know, yeah. So, sorry, very sorry. Alright, so

talk to talk to the officer. We had to move the meeting along, but we're here. We ain go nowhere. Alright. Thank you. You're welcome, man. God bless you. We're praying for you.

Mister Chair, your next week will be Mister James for follow by Miss Lenora, an Jordan. Mister for

how you doing, how you doing. My name is Ms Jordan. My son has will be missing as of seven days tomorrow. I'm I went to the police department and I made a police report. Everything that I filled out on here is accurate, but they put that he has black braids. I never told them that he has black braids. I also gave them three different pictures. I'm just trying to really get help, to get out here and search look for my son. He's mental health, and I've been looking for him every day. He will never go this many days without his phone, his money, his clothes, anything like that. He is just like he disappeared. He was at the hospital, and they dropped him off in a courtes cab on seven mile and Hu. And since then, I have not found him, seen from him, heard from him, and I've been all over. How old is he? He just turned 18 in November the fifth. He's getting ready to go to college. Well, he next couple of weeks, and I'm trying to get them together, get them ready. Ma'am, I just need help trying to find my baby. I've been in this park. I need help walking through these, all these and walking through these houses. I walk through an A band of school yesterday with my daughters, and we got all the way to the basement, and we we we knew that somebody was living in there. We seen that somebody was living but it wasn't but it wasn't my son. I just need help.

Commission Smith, and then

let's do the chair, um, ma'am. Is your name? Lenora, yes. Okay, so Riley Greer contacted me last night in regards to this. I did share the information on my page, because normal, normally, this is the this type of stuff that I do, and it goes viral. So he did give me your contact information. I just hadn't gotten around to contacting you. But, um, I do want to help you, far as putting the search party together and going out, he did explain to me the circumstances of what was going on. He's 18, just graduate. I have the whole thing. If you follow my page, Tama or Liberty Smith, you get I posted it last so, yes, I

did, yes, because it was hard for me to get people to post it and everything. And then with them putting that he has braids, they're looking for the wrong person. He has no he doesn't have bra.

Deputy Chief, can

you address that? Yeah, through the chair the information that you have, again, there'll be an officer in the back. We'll get the information, and we'll make sure we correct the description.

Thank you. Thank you.

And Are you guys familiar with this case? Are you guys working with them

in this regard? So I am not specifically individually familiar with the case. Oh, come but I know we do have detectives, investigators and and other people who are and I am going to get familiar with the case and make sure we update the information.

Thank you. I also wanted to say he, he's, he's been, he been locked up for like, two years. He just got out in February. Okay, the beginning of February. He just was released. He's on two different middle grams of Seroquel, blue, blue spur editor, Ra X, a 30 and title zone and another medicine. He hasn't had any of his medicine this week.

Okay, I will connect him with D win as well. If you stay here, we will share some information, and we'll be happy to work with Commissioner Smith. I go out and look with with them. I'm known to do that a lot, you know, and many of us are and so we're praying for a safe return, you know. And so talk to the officer so you get that stuff rectified, and we go from there. Thank you, yes, you know. And I thank the commissioners and on this community for your indulgence. You know, when these type of issues, you know, these are press and issues, and you know, again, I apologize, but I don't apologize. And so you get the information to so they can get that picture rectified, and then you we'll talk to you afterwards.

Thank you so much because I got four other kids that's up all night. We've been up of every night since four or five to the sun light coming up. This girl falling asleep back here because she been up every day. Yes. Ma'am, thank you so much. Yes. Ma'am,

mister, for

you know, Detroit has a red light running and drag racing problem. You know, it is big time. My name is James for I would like for you to Google Detroit Red lights. Just Google Detroit Red lights, tickets to get on the bus to go to Lansing at $35 and you can call me, but I want to say this. My phone number is 586-918-3061, it's hard to tell a child that his mother is not coming home. It's hard to tell a mother a a child is not coming home. It's hard to tell a wife that her husband not coming home, and it's hard to tell a wife that her husband is not coming home. When you go home tonight, I want you to look in the mirror, and I want you to ask yourself, are you going to Lansing on September 18 or not? The mirrors, don't lie. If you're not going to Lansing, I want to know this. How can you strap your baby in the back seat of a car that you know it might be ran into? How can you ask your relatives to come into a city where you know that is Bladen red light run is in drag race if you not going to LAN September 18, ask yourself why you go to the casinos. You go stand in the lottery lines, and you even slip down to Cancun nine then, and I want to ask this to all the pastors that you know, ask your pastors why they not getting involved. Ask your community leaders why they not getting involved. Ask your civic groups why they not getting involved. Yes, I want you to go home and look in the mirror. And if you not going to LAN on September 18, ask yourself, why those are your babies in the back seat of those cars. Don't ask for another, any kind of people anywhere to come in and protect your babies. Those are your babies. They in the back city of the car. And I want you to ask this answer, this question for me, if it not about the babies, then who is it about time? If it not about the babies, I'm James for God. Bless you. Next, Mr. Chair, you

have two more call. Is there on Zoom?

Yes

for commission, William Davis, followed by Mr. Body Jones,

you may be hurt.

Mr. Davis, commission.

Davis, you

are you there? Commission Davis,

go to Ms Jones. Ms

Jones, you may be heard.

Ms Jones, are you there?

Ms Jones, are you? Yes, I'm

here. You may be heard. Okay. My name is Yvon Jones. I live in district five. I'm a member of the police Coalition for police transparency and accountability. My first concern today, oh, this is so heart break, and this is heavy listening to these mothers and Oh, my God, what are we doing? But I was calling about Sherman Butler and asking for the body camera footage to be released. But my heart is broke, because I'm listening to these mothers who son have been killed for years, and they haven't had any any kind of information, so I don't know. We just need to do better. We need to do better by all of our people. And we need to understand that policing the problems in Detroit is not policing policies. Is a policing culture. There's no respect for the people. The concern is not real. The policies are there, but what about how do we change this culture? I am so disturbed, how Commissioner wood just shut down commission Bernard? Oh, we have some serious problems, and we need to work together to change this culture of disrespect that we can help each other. We the Coalition for police, trans parents and accountability. We had request that the citizen complaints be released, and it was approved by the commissioners, and it got stalled and with the law department, and we're just wondering what's going on there. It's so many holes, so many gaps, no transparency, no accountability. We've we've got to do better. Thank you.

Let the record reflect that the Board of police commission did their due diligence and did everything they supposed to do as relates to those particular documents may release so that less the chief investigator, his team, got everything together, you know, and so we're going to be very, very transparent that we did turn that information over. Is that correct? Chief war fear? Can you speak to that

through the chair? I think there are two things that want to address with this call. Or one is, as relates to the four year information that was being requested, we absolutely did our due diligence and turned the information when we get before request that we get them very often we have to turn that information over to the law department, because it is the law department that facilitates for us, and we are obligated by law to turn it over to them as relates to information appearing on the website from our citizen complaints. We're in the process of being able to do that, and so we're working on that right now.

Absolutely.

All right. Next call is any mister chair is Mister da call mister Davis here,

check and see alright.

If there's alright, let us move to the secretary report.

Uh, Mister Chair, there are several correspondence up under my report. There's a news article that's in there from the garden of DPD. Got gun that resurface, that was stolen in 2014 you have two directors, direct, three, oh 4.8 bowl wrap device and another one, three or 4.9 pepper ball launch. Both of those will be given to the policy committee and, of course, OCI bundt report and the bocp proposed community committees for fiscal year 2025, and Mr. Chair I go to the announcement. Next Bo PC meeting will be Thursday, August 15, at 3pm that would take place at Detroit Public Safety head quarters and your next community mean will be Thursday, September the 12th, at 6:30pm with the fourth pre sent hosting at Kennedy recreation center. That address is 2260, South Fourth Street, 4217, and then monthly community meeting schedule for August would be the policy committee meeting will meet Tuesday, August 20, 2424 at 5pm and Mister Chair. You can view those on Zoom. And also you can come to Detroit Public Safety head quarters. Those are the announcements,

yes, and on any new business There being no new business. Motion to adjourn by Commissioner Hernandez, to adjourn. Second, by Commissioner,

Bernard. All in favor say aye. Aye. Anyone opposed. The motion is.