🌱OKCalyxx's New Crosses, Feminizing Plants, and Natural Farming

12:07PM Jan 28, 2025

Speakers:

Jordan River

OK Calyx

Keywords:

natural farming

pollination projects

feminizing plants

Turkey Tail extract

IMO production

blueberry strains

fruity genetics

reversal techniques

colloidal silver

solventless partnerships

lateral branching

preserved invariants

grow community

organic methods

breeding experiments

Good readings. Cultivators worldwide. Jordan River here back with more grow cast all natural. Today we have ok call X on the line. He's here to talk about natural farming and his upcoming breeding projects. This is a great quasi breeder feature, and he's going to talk to us today about his pollinations, feminization, growing the okcalyx way. And stay tuned. We're going to be teasing a little class that might be coming up later this year. So very exciting stuff going on with okcalx. I know you're going to love today's episode before we tune into it, though. Shout out to AC infinity, my favorite grow gear manufacturers, AC infinity.com, always use code grow. Cast one five. Grab yourself a new tent, a new light. Grab yourself a grow kit. Expand that grow room, get that veg tent going. So you can do some staggered runs. Code grow cast one five works on all the products at AC infinity and the Grow kits, which come with everything you need to get started growing. Of course, AC infinity makes amazing, durable tents. They make the best oscillating and inline fans in the game. They make grow lights. They make grow pots. They got scissors, they got protective eyewear. Everything you need is at AC infinity.com, and code grow cast one five is the code you use to save everybody. You're helping us keep our lights on here, and you're supporting an awesome company, our partners, AC infinity. We've been with them for years and years now. I remember discovering them when they just had the cloud line. They're in line fans, and now they have all these goodies, from the cloud Ray oscillator to the cloud Forge, humidifier, find it all always use code, grow, cast one, five, and thank you. AC, infinity. AC infinity.com. All right, let's get into it with okca, Alex, thank you for listening and enjoy the show. Hello, podcast listeners. You are now listening to grow cast. I'm your host, Jordan River, and I want to thank you for tuning in again today. Before we get started, as always, I urge you share this show with a grower. Turn someone on to grow cast. We're on Spotify. We're everywhere. Make sure you're subscribed. Turn someone on to growing it's the best thing you can do to help us on our mission of overgrow. See everything we're doing at growcast podcast.com There, you'll find the seeds, membership, events and so much more. Thank you to all of the members, especially for tuning in today. All right, everyone, we've got Okay, call x back on the show. You know what time it is. What's up? Okay, call X. How you doing?

Man? What's going on? Everybody in the Grow cast world? Glad to be here and talk to you guys again.

Yes, sir, you're killing it out there. If you're a first time listener, for some reason you haven't heard of Okay, call X. Go. Give him a follow on Instagram at Okay. Call x, just like it's spelled in the title of this episode. He's a natural farming enthusiast. He's a breeder, an educator, among many other things. Alex, what have you been up to lately? My friend, give us a little update on what's going on at the farm. What natural farming, kind of experiments you've been working on, and all that good stuff,

you bet. Okay, so it's winter time, right? And often new organic farmers don't, do not know what to do, because in the winter time, it seems like nothing's happening, but the winter time is when you replenish your storehouse. It's whenever you start making all of your inputs that you want to make. And let me preface that with I'm talking about my environment. I can do all of these things that I'm about to say in my environment, and I am fully aware that in your environment, it's quite possible that you just cannot do these things. There are lots of other things that you can do. You don't have to do the whole list of what I'm doing. There are definitely simple things, like labs and IMO, one that you can take from and you can do in warm places. But my environment, I have a nice little shed that I can keep warm, that I can always imitate and recreate summer conditions inside. So I can always be making stuff, because I got a warm shed in here. So I have a long list of stuff. Let me tell you everything that I've been doing since about let's see October. The end of October, right after I cut my plants down, and right after I winterized my garden real well, I started focusing on gathering materials and starting to make new inputs. One of the first things that I've made, and it's a brand new thing, it's a fermented Turkey Tail extract. And I've gathered lots of Turkey tails. You'll see that, okay, calcs, Instagram and my YouTube page, and just the basic extract method of using labs and molasses and water and adding the turkey tails, letting that sit approximately seven to 10 days, taking a pH, finding it close to around three is typically what I'll do, and then a strain. It out a little bit, and what I've been using it right now in my testing, in my organic experimentation, I'm testing fermented Turkey Tail extract as a foliar on about six plants inside gasoline. Now they've been doing it for about the last five days. Wow. And I've even squirted a teaspoon, not a tablespoon, but I squirted a teaspoon, about three milliliters of straight Turkey Tail extract, into the soil. Just injected it in the soil, and just been messing around. Man, I've got, I don't care. These plants make it or not. These are my testers. There's some extras, and just kind of let them do their thing. I'll probably chop them down before I switch the flower here in gasoline alley. But thus far, man, they look beautiful. Wow. Now the the reason I tried this Turkey Tail extract number one is because I had so many Turkey tails and like, I gotta do something else besides grind them up, take more prints and things like that. I use labs in my IPM, Reg, I use labs. OHN and em five, wanted to kind of change the lab side up. And instead of labs, I've now implemented the fermented Turkey Tail extract, which was made with labs. But it's just going to have, I feel a more of a beneficial effect on my plants. That is a theory and a hypothesis only have zero scientific proof of anything. I'm a methodology guy. I like to practice some methods to see how the end result comes out. I feel like you learn a lot more that way. I'm not a I'm not a mathematical guy whatsoever. So I like methods. I like to try things out, see how they work. And I'm going to start implementing the permanent Turkey Tail with my oh and em five as an as a regular IPM that I use for as a plant maintenance, really, and thus far in gasoline alley, my plants look fantastic. I've used no typical IPM, like a regalia or a venerate or something like that. I've only used natural products that I've made, and zero issues so far. But let me go through this list of things that I've made so that you can kind of compare, maybe the listener can compare where they are. You know, maybe you're a brand new organic guy, you've made a few ferments, and maybe, maybe you're about a third year organic guy, and you've got into those ferments, and you've got into the IMO, one through fives, and you got to try to make some things. I've been doing it for a while, and I, I seem to do a lot more than most people, just because my personality type is not a braggar thing. I have, I have more time than most people do.

Well, you don't sleep. You get a lot of extra hours in your day when you don't sleep. I know you personally enough to know that you do not sleep. That's why you seem to operate okay, you don't look like I would look if I slept like that. So you've been

hard at work for years. It's been like this my whole life. And once you get old enough, you want to start doing something that really may has meaning and contributes value to those in your circle of influence. And it's like, I've hit that point where I'm like, Man, I just want to do stuff that's really good. I want to I want to hone in on things and do I can't do everything great, but I can do a lot of things great in my environment, whatever it's needed. That's what I want to become great at. And so these are the things that you know I really try to be awesome. At number one, that fermented Turkey Tail I've made four gallons of fermented Turkey Tail extract. I've made five gallons of OHN, three gallons of em, 515 gallons of sunflower plant extract. Those were sunflowers from the summer 15 pounds of cannabis, fermented plant extract, 10 gallons of hash water labs. Now hash water Labs is where I take the when we washed a bunch of my summer cannabis and other people's cannabis, we had one batch that was called Root beer from Seattle, chronic seeds, I believe, and we watched it, and that hash water was the purples water I have ever seen. And I was like, Okay, guys, I got to do something with this. And I decided to try making labs with hash water. And the labs, right? The hash water labs that I have, it is a purpley pink look. And I just put a video up on Instagram, and you'll see it. It's so it's purple. It's beautiful labs that is a different color, so that's half water labs. I've collected 10 gallons of mushrooms, just foraging mushrooms that I will eventually chop up compost over my garden, just whatever. I've made five gallons of, IMO, two, four totes of acorn IMO, three, two totes of native soil. IMO, four, one tote of compost. IMO, four, one tote of acorn mill, one tote of leaf mold, 80 gallons of Bucha, and one cubic yard compost. I've done all that since October y'all,

jeez, man, that is so cool. Okay, so a couple things I want to touch on there. The hash water is great. People always ask me, What can I do with this magic anthocyanin water? So making it into labs, that's fascinating. I would like to see you put that under a microscope next to a control.

Yeah, yeah. I actually sent that off to a person on Instagram that is in Matt powers classes, and they're going to be using it in class to check it out. See what it does, see if it's any different. And hey, check it out. This is what I did when I mentioned I had to 15 gallons of cannabis, fermented plant extract. I actually used that hash water labs as the lab input to that cannabis fermented plant extract. And the cannabis I use was the buds that I washed to get the hash water. That's a closed loop. Big time closed loop.

It was always in that loop. Indeed, I love that. And then, you know, you talk about all these this, this gathering of resources, like you said, this is the mind state overall that we should have in these fall and winter months, right? Gather as much as we can, like you said, if you have a space where you can be doing stuff that's warm, that's ideal. But I like this idea of like resource gathering during this downtime when. And in the spring, you're gonna have a bunch of stuff to work with and start going on these projects. Now a good

time to gather now, again, in my environment, in Oklahoma, it's a great time to gather woods and broken up bark and tip over stumps and grab the sponge wood. Number one is because the snakes are gone, the snakes are not going to be there. And in Oklahoma you're going to have copperheads laying on and in bark. I mean, it's perfect place for rodents, and they're everywhere out here. And then number two, the seed ticks, and the ticks aren't going to get all over you. You know, the winter time the grass falls down, the leaves fall down, and there's, you can see through the forest, if you will, like, there's one video I post on Instagram it has a log that's covered in mushrooms. I could see that log probably 50 yards away. And I could see the white dots all the way up this fallen tree. And dude, there were, there were probably 700 to 1000 mushrooms all over on this log of different varieties also. And I could see that, man. I was like, Oh my gosh, and start walking that way. And it was just a it was a land mine, a gold mine of mushrooms,

an explosion and a gold mine of mushrooms. Yeah, not that, but, yeah, it's easier, right? It's easier to spot those things in the woods, as opposed to the lush green foliage covering everything, yeah, that's right, that's right. And that is really cool. Well, uh, listen, we're stoked. We're very excited for this next season. We're excited to follow you on Instagram and get more education. We'll just drop a little teaser here for you grow cast members and listeners who are tuned in and are fans of okcalyx, maybe a natural farming intensive in 2024 get some hands on education. Me and OK. Call X, what do you think guys? OK, call X. Does a curriculum, we'll put it together and get you guys down there for for a long form intensive that sounds like, sounds like something that you would dream about, Alex, like you love, that you love the in person education. Come

on. You know what makes me the happiest is when I see enlightenment on people's faces, when knowledge explodes your eyebrows up and your mouth wide open. It's like, Yes, you got it. And that, you know, when I learned these things, I consider myself the knowledge bearer of them, and I you pass these, the knowledge bearing communities, passes it on, passes things on in story form, passes recipes on, passes how we used to do things on, you know, that's and that's what this knowledge is, and that's what this class that Joe and I kind of talked about would be, it would be me showing you how I make Bucha. Me showing you how I go out in the woods, how I find what I'm going to make my IMO three with gathering it up, inoculating it, and showing you how you left to cook, how it's left to cook, how to make ferments, how to make labs. You know, you could sit there and ask me any question you ever wanted to ask, and I guarantee you we'll get the answer for you, not because we know everything, but because we're really good at the things we're going to teach you. You know what I'm saying? That's what I want to do. That's what I want

to do. That sounds amazing, man. And you know what? It's the passing on. That's the magic. Like you said, there's lots of good information out there. There's lots of good educators out there. But if I can blow some smoke, Alex, what separates you from the rest is the passion. So your education is coming from a place of passion, and then being able to articulate the information in a way that's understandable if you can't pass it on, like you said, if you can't convey it, well, your information isn't useful. It's a dead end, right? So you're really able to pass on the information well, and that's what I appreciate. I'd love to do an in person, in depth, hands on class with you. So look forward to that in 2024 probably in fall of 2024 is what we're looking at. Yes, that's right. Let's look for it. Let's do it. I'm excited, man, I'm really excited. Okay, well, there's a lot to go over. We could probably talk natural farming all day. I want to make sure that we leave room, though, for what I wanted to focus on today is this new pollination. You've been hard at work in gasoline alley with a whole new drop that's coming up. So I'd like to do kind of a quasi breeder feature. I think we've kind of done this before, or maybe not, but yeah, no, yeah, yeah, because I remember talking to me about your blueberry Yeah, all your blueberry work and stuff like that. So let me ask you as a follow up. Has your goals changed as a breeder? Clearly, your values are the same, but like, Are you hunting any sort of new flavors? Where is this new pollination taking You, uh, further than just like, heavy, heavy blueberry terms?

Well, what I'm doing with this breeding is it is a collab with belief, and it'll be the number one to be the first project I do. So a lot of this stuff that a lot of the strains are going to be belief strains, and that's the reason you hear so many of these. But I have taken two, let's see two. Yeah, I believe it's two of my blueberry strains that I created that have been grown out over the last two or three years. Well, about two years now, I guess, and um, Bluetooth and blueberry War Child are two that just came out as ridiculously good. Just blueberry good. Every Bluetooth has been all blueberry, very fruity, you know, chapstick, blueberry, blueberry frosting, just different types of that blueberry hit and then the blueberry. War Child has two phenos that kind of keep coming up. One is a gassy blueberry. It's really strong. The gas makes the blueberry stronger to me, like with a little bit of gas at the on the back end of it, it just kind of explodes the blueberry more, which was something that I learned. The other blueberry War Child is kind of like Bluetooth. It's just straight up blueberry, super duper sweet, blueberry frosting type smell, and the commonality, the common parent between Bluetooth and blueberry War Child, is the blueberry Mac muffin that I used, and I got it from SFV genetics. Brandon Russ got it from him, also about the same time. And Brandon Russ has bred his out and found his Pheno and he actually is breeding that one, and I just used mine to breed just some new lines and things like that. So the Bluetooth lineage is blueberry muffin cross to blueberry train Mac cross, the blueberry Mac muffin. That's the whole line of Bluetooth. And, um, blueberry War Child is, blueberry is, uh, sorry, blueberry muffin crossed a blueberry train, Matt crossed the blueberry Mac muffin. Just a different phenome, right? It's exact same, exact same crosses, but two different plants that I took that I thought were spectacular, got it and we and we bred those out that way. So that's kind of why I've used those two, because they're so good, and we've moved forward with those. Now there's a bunch, there's a

lot going on. Well, is there a male in this pollination, or is this a feminized

No, this is a feminized pollination. That's what I'm about to say. That's what's about to say. Okay, so $1 donor or multi yeah, there's going to be one donor, and it's going to be chest of the cheetah. Is the one that I've chosen. She smells real fruity right now, just as a veg plant, she's really pretty dark green. Has a fruity smell to her, and her lineage is it's the red hots seed from belief. And red hots is also known as love seed, 2.256 so it's red hots crossed the Chimera three. That's chest of the cheetah. She's going to get reversed, and then she is going to cross a plethora of plants, seed plants and clones that ice that we know are good. So here we go. I'm gonna list you all of my gear. That's it that we're crossing, and then all of beliefs gear that we're crossing. So my first one will be my blueberry Chimera. And that's, that's Chimera two cross to my Bluetooth. I did that last year. I believe growing a few out, of course, they're just, they're aggressive growers, and they have a great fruity smell. Thus far, couple of them had a little gas smell in there with that blue toothy smell. But blueberry chimera, that's going to be one a second. One is blueberry truffle. This is the truffle queen that I this is truffle Queen cross for my Bluetooth. The truffle queen that I used is the truffle queen that I grew outside this last summer that got zero bud rot. Every other plant got a little bit, at least a little bit of Bud rot. The truffle queen got zero bud rot, that is, and I still got it in gasoline alley. I have two clones of it in gasoline alley from the same plant this summer. Kid Mac has some fat beard potheads got some. So I've made sure that that genetic got out. And I s1 that plant also. So I've got that plant in s1 just to say those dang good genetics, man, because in Oklahoma, you find a plant that doesn't start to bud rot at late September, when the humidity is at 90 and the temperatures at 100 right? You got something good. So that's blueberry truffle truffle queen to Bluetooth. The next one is is Squealer killer. And this is a collab I did with at ganja farmer genetics. Wheeler killer is my blueberry Squealer crossed to a reverse killer Berry. So these Squealer killers are in femme only. But again, my blueberry Squealer is in the lineage of blueberry War Child and blueberry, or blueberry or, sorry, Bluetooth. So, so blueberry Squealer was one of my early good blueberries, and it was crossed to kill aberry, which killeberry is, Gorilla Glue four, crossed to uh, arcle, cross to DJ shore, blueberry f4 that's what killer Berry is. And killer Squealer, the colaboth, Ganja farmer. These plants are phenomenal. They're beautiful, big plants, and the the bottom lateral branching, just grows up out of the canopy quickly. They're so aggressive. I love them. And there's they're always super, super fruity. Everybody's growing, Squealer killers, they constantly come back. This is so fruity. It's fantastic. Like, yes, because, see, that's, that was the thing I was going for. He kind of asking me about the blueberry. Did I hit my goals? Yeah. I mean, I've as far as I'm happy, I felt like I hit my goals of finding a couple of females of something that's definitely blueberry that I like. And I actually, I had my Bluetooth and hash Roz, and it was just fantastic. So I definitely found some good blueberry strains that I like that we've carried on into this, into this belief project. Nice. So that's Squealer killer femmes only. I actually have a few of those, and I don't think they're on the website. You might have to only post so many on the website. So many genetics, it becomes too much. I feel when you're looking at 100 different lineages and lion and things like that. So about 10 or so is always good on my web page. But you can always email me at okcalyx@gmail.com and I can always tell you the things that aren't up there. And Squealer killers, one of them, blueberry truffles, another one, and blueberry chimera is another one that is not on the web page. Okay, so number four is cherry on a grande. Lots of people heard of cherry on a grande when I made this last year, because it's a freaking fantastic name, man. I love it. And I'll tell you right now, I did not come up with this name. Me and a guy were hanging out smoking weed at Legends cannabis company one day, and he said, cheery on a grande would be awesome. Oh my gosh, that's stickers had slaps, made immediately.

I remember that one from the last episode. That one sounded great.

Yeah, it's, it's really good, man, we've got it. We've I've got one called the kid Mac cut because kid Mac hunted this one out and found it, and I and he did that a year ago. I grew it outside, grew it out. It was beautiful, made that I still, I'm smoking on the rosin right now. That's what I was just smoking on before the show starts. It's so good. It's so fruity and and cherry blossom grapish, you know, it's so good. But I got cherry on a grande, which is chimera, two, cross two, very cherry. And after I did the blueberry thing, I did a I did a very cherry, big, big breeding project, and the very cherry is from Humboldt County. Now, the reason I picked very cherry to do that project is because Humboldt County says it's the on the website, they said it's the most, it's the terpiest fino we've ever grown and we grew out or and says, and we made blueberry muffin. And when it said that, I was like, You got to be kidding me. And so I immediately got a breeders pack of about 50 reg seeds, and I grew out a ton of these. We did a grow album at out at Legends Cannabis Company, which is no longer in business, they actually sold a few months ago. I was broke my heart. They sold to another grow anyway. I did a lot of this stuff out there at Legends, the very cherry is the lineage is a it's a very cherry back cross to a double back cross, and that was crossed to a lemon Kush across the old times, old timer. That's the lineage. It doesn't sound anything interesting, but, man, it's the loudest, terpiest plant that I've ever grown. I said that last year as I was growing it out outside the cherry on a grande, carried it over. The kid, Matt cut that I'm talking about. It carried over this crazy, harsh, dried Kool Aid turf, like when you put your tongue on Kool Aid powder. It has that sharp cherry taste, you know, something like that sour in there. Yes, it's got such kind of sharpness the sour to it. And it's a sweet and sour kind of a thing, but it's, it's super fruity, for sure, but the the very cherry, it will come back with a cherry cough drop, kind of a thing, like a little bit of a gas in there. It'll have that cherry Kool Aid thing I was talking about. It'll have a cherry Kush come out of it. Also, I've actually got a strain called Cherry Kush that it was both mamas or both finos were having these cushy smells. One is my blueberry breath f1 which is a real cushy, yummy blueberry strain that I used. I haven't carried it forward, but we were growing it out there at Legends crossed it very cherry. So there's just lots of good cherry, but sharp, like you said, tart, maybe sour kind of, yeah, that's a good word coming out, you know? So anyway, that's very cheery. So cherry on a grande is Chimera to belief. Cross the very cherry. So you can already see, I did a lot of work with belief stuff already. I had already found some things that I was like, Man, these things are so dang frosty. You like that chimera? Yeah, it was a it was unbelievably frosty. Now, the buds are not the buds are not huge. They're not big buds at all. I like their bike though. Their buds are like, about to say, yeah, they're beautiful looking buds, and they're super frosty. The fan leaves are frosty. The family stems are frosty. The Marist stem itself will be frosty. It's like, golly, it's unbelievable. And the cherry on the ground is freaking frosty. And Turkey, the kid Matt cut is it's delicious. So moving on, cheery on a grande that was for number five is blazed cherries. This is another very cherry cross I did with Dante's Inferno. Across the very cherry. I have pictures of Dante's Inferno. I think maybe on, okay, college genetics, but the girl is super duper frosty, just like most these Dante's infernos, you see just gorgeous, kind of a, kind of a purpley with a light a purple plant, or a purple flower with a light white hue to it because of all of the trichomes that are all over it. But I crossed that one to very cherry. That's Blaze cherries. And I actually, dude, I think I have a male blazed cherries in there right now. I think, I think I spotted one because I pop these are red seeds that I did on the very cherry thing. Let's see. The next one is cherry junkie. This is a cap junkie. If you've ever grown a cap junkie plant, the thing is sticky, as can be. The one I used was just greasy and sticky. And you know, when you if you touch the butt at all that that leaves just bent over and stuck to itself, kind of a sticky thing. So cap junkie crossed a very cherry that's called Cherry junkie. You. The next one is cherry War Child. This is my blueberry war child that I discussed crossed to the very cherry. This will be the first time I personally have grown out cherry War Child. I've had two testers grow out very cherry War Child, one's in Florida, but they both just raved over. Of course, it's very loud, very fruity well, but they both said that this is, it was a very fruity turn, not very gassy at all. But again, I'm just trying to go for something that's unbelievably fruity. You know, one a side note here. One reason I like to go fruity is because hanging out with processors here in Oklahoma, you'll often be at a processors place, and he'll be like, check this out, man, this isn't by invite only that you get to compete in so no one else even knows about the competition, but just the hash makers and the stuff is freaking fire, yeah, flaw, I mean, just the best there is, however, out of the last time I was smoking out of a one of these packs, I was invite only. I think it was nice 20. It was 20 entries, and 17 of them were basically gas or burger, and three of them had had a fruity taste to them. And I was like, Man, this just kind of try to help me be like, Yeah, I want to find something that that fills that, that void of this is so freaking fruity, it's going to compete with gas and burger. I don't know how it will do that, except that somebody just says, Dude, that's so good. I got to go back to that one. You know what? I'm saying? That's what I'm hoping for with some of these loud, super fruity Terps. Because I love fruit. I like fruity gum. I like fruity drinks. When I used to drink alcohol, I like fruity beer. Blue Moon with orange in it. Don't drink no more, though. I

think you like cherries and blueberries. Something tells me that. I'm not sure what it is, but it looks like not you know, it's funny that you say that, though, because the cherry notes specifically, it can really go a lot of different directions. We got a good cherry note in a coffee for it was a Colombian coffee that came in, and it had this nice cherry note. But when I was first smelling it, there's the sweet cherry side, and then there's like, you said the tart cherry side, almost bordering to, like, funky, rotten cherry side. When I first got this cherry coffee, I was like, it's almost got that, like, doo, doo, but funk to it. And I asked the lady who imported it, I was like, what is it that's different about this coffee? Because it was the same cultivar, it was just a different year. Coffee will change just year to year. And she said, what you're smelling is cherries. Think cherries? I was like, Oh, my God, it's absolutely cherries, but it smelled funky to me. So I think that cherry really brings, like, some complexity where some of the brighter, sweeter, less tart fruits smell more similar to each other. That makes sense.

Yes, I can tell you right now, the Bluetooth that I grew out two summers ago, and had pressed into hash rosin, and the very cherry that I had pressed into hash Rosen, both of them, very good. Bluetooth is blueberry, but that's it. There's no back end. It's fruit, and that's all you get, right? And I like that, and some people do, and some people don't. It's just that way. It's just that, that that spectrum, you know, of Tur, but then the very cherry just packs a punch, like you were saying, there's a thing in there that pops, and it pops really hard and loud, and it often pops in veg. And you can just get around that plant and just start to smell that good, loud, something's coming, man, because it's not just a plant. It's like, got a smell to it, you know, and it's in their veg, and they have that. It's always a good thing. I love when

they have the same smell in veg as later in flour. The peach dos is like that the if you get like, little frost in the in the beginning, you'll smell exactly what it's going to smell like in week eight. Is that sweet peach taffy? I think it's pretty rare that a strain smells the same in veg and flour, but I've definitely experienced it. So yeah, that's

good stuff. That's more typical to change. Yeah, it's more typical for the Terp to morph. I agree. Yeah, something else, I agree. Okay, so speaking of the peach, do see moving on to number eight peach. Do see cross the Bluetooth, which is a grow cast collab, Jordan gave me this peach. Do see at Community cup? And I believe that was right community code, right?

So one of the meetups, see, I dropped that off.

Oh no, it was one of the smaller meetups. It was the barbecue. We were at the barbecue. Yes, that's kind of one of the first times we met, I think, yeah. So I

stole your pipe

at that event. Yeah, gave it back to me. Hey, Listen, guys, he gave me the pipe back with the exact same weed in it. Yeah,

weed is still perfectly preserved. A year later, I gave it back. Nice.

He's, he's an honest man. Trust Him with your glass, right? Trust Him with your glass. So peach dosey crossed the Bluetooth. I did that one, and I actually have peach Josie cross the Bluetooth in gasoline alley right now. I've had that thing forever, right? It's been a long time, and I actually the last film. The last film project I did was with at fatbeard pothead on Instagram, and it was at his house, and we used peach do cross the Bluetooth. To cross three different plants. I can't remember all of them, but they're the they're the latest fems that we've put out. And I use peach dossier. And guys, we washed them. We owe remedy. We washed rim. There was remedy Celtic goddess, and another one. But we washed remedy. Dude. Remedy smelt like O, H N. It smelled like cinnamon and oranges. It was so good. And he's, he's still got that. He's got the baller jar of all that stuff right now. So those fins came out really nice with the peach do Bluetooth reversal, the number nine, I've got a grape Gushers. And this is just a gushers plant. That kid Mac and I have grown out multiple times. So has Fabien pothead legends grew it out. It has a it has the most sexy fade I've ever seen. Top two sexy fade. The other one was a garlic breath, a garlic stash number 13 from Dragon flames genetics. It had the most sexy fade I've ever seen on a plant. This gushers competes with it whenever she goes into cold weather and she'll, she'll change into all kinds of colors. She'll start off with a dark green tip, and then she'll move into these bright red first fans, and then the lower ones will be these hard orange fans, family's colors. And it's just a gorgeous plant. And so I've always kept her around because she is gorgeous. But not only she gorgeous, she smells like hard candy grapes. She is such a good smell. And turkey plant so great. Gushers, I'm crossing it. And then there's a number 10. The last one of my gear is a collab I did with a guy at uppercase, uppercase, underscore, most Cephas too, but I did a collab with him four years ago, and he took my GDP cross to Lady breath, and he crossed it to a Don Carlos. And man, they're super frosty. They're dark, dark green plants. Right now, there's a guy called Stevie clouds online Instagram, and he's the he's been the tester of all these. He has grown these out multiple times. He's grown he's growing all these things that I'm talking about. He's one of the dudes that grows every I send him everything. There's a guy in Florida and a guy in California, both of them get all my stuff, and they grow it constantly, because you can grow Canvas fair all year round. He's got in the Florida guy's got plants outside and veg right now that he's using supplemental lighting, I believe, and then throw him in, let him go into flower. I mean, freaking, how fun would that be? I have to be inside with heaters so, so that GDP cross the lady brass cross to a Don Carlos, though that's all my gear. So, yeah, it's a lot,

oh, man, that's a lot of stuff. That's a big drop. And there's even more crosses that with stuff that's not more, how many total strains in this drop?

So there's about 18, if, all, if, if everybody is a female, almost everybody is a female from femme seed, or a feminine or a clone that was female. But there are some seeds. Like I said, the cherry junkie is the one I have not grown myself. I believe that's right, yeah, but yeah, that's all my stuff. And then the beliefs gear that is in there is the truffle queen that was outside that has such great genetics, it's going to get crossed with this chest of cheetah. I've got a peach pistols that's in there that it's going to get crossed, but I don't know if it will go, if it will be sold at all, because this peach pistols is is kind of being being ran by a guy who just kind of wants it himself. It was given to him. He want it, and he let me get a cut of it. I told him, I'm across it, but I probably won't be selling any seeds of it until he gives the okay. But peach pistols will be one that'll be crossed Cobra Kai is one that's that's got Margo in it. Margu is really, was really pretty planned. I grew Margo out. Margaux crossed to Chimera three. That's Cobra Kai. We've got straw jelly. I don't know that. I don't know the lineage of that one I have no idea. Never grown, grown straw jelly out. This is his stuff. I've got Daily Grape number nine, which I think is fantastic, flower rosin. I grew it. I grew this drain, or I grew this very plant this summer outside. So it's a clone of a plant that I've grown a couple of times, and so have other people. And then two more of his gear, which is love dirty sugar, which is Chimera one cross to the dipping sticks. Dipping sticks, if you've never seen dipping sticks, go look at dipping sticks. Man, all the junk that belief spread off of dipping sticks just wonderful. And that dipping sticks cut is beautiful. So that's love dirty sugar, uh, Chimera one cross, the dip and sticks. And the final one of bleach gear is Cadillac Margarita, which is triple sec across to the dip and sticks kind of of sugarcane. That's, that's what that dip and sticks is. And then the last one I have is a planet of the grapes. That's ethos, genetics. I just have, I never have grown, uh, actually, I have grown it out once, but I had to cut it down because I just didn't have the room. And I got it in veg, and I really liked it. It was pretty plant. So I've actually got three of them that I'm hunting through, just three seeds. I only pop three of them. And I should be like, just gonna throw this in here, because I've heard good things about it, but I have never grown that one out. And sometimes, that's the way it is. Sometimes you you breed a plant that you've never grown out, and then you grow out the seeds of that to see what happens. You know, way to do it. You can, guys. You just. Do your experiment you want

how you want to. I support that. Man, I think there's a lot of I think there's a lot of insecurity, and like gatekeeping, because it is easy to breed cannabis, especially, is so easy to breed, and you're out there doing experiments, I love it. I'm glad that the planet of the grapes is included in this pollination, because we've worked with the 10th planet, which is a planet of the grapes cross and, man, sometimes, sometimes you get this, like, carbonated, effervescent grape soda. TURP, that's just right? It's fizzy and it's artificial, and it's sweet and it's so it just hangs on your tongue.

You can taste it when you cough, yeah, I like it when you can taste it when you cough, yeah, there it is again. Yeah,

it's true, true. So I hope you get some of those. I'm sure that came from the planet of the grape side. So good stuff, man. Very, very excited for this, for this pollination. Yeah, dude. Grow cast membership, the best membership community in cannabis. You can find it at grow cast podcast.com/membership, and there are so many benefits to joining up for just $15 a month. Let me tell you about my favorite one today, the community itself. That's right, the number one piece of feedback that we get back from our happy grower members is that they love the community. So many times you can't, kind of put your neck out there in the cannabis world and show your grow or ask for help, because so many people jump down your throat. Nobody really knows what they're talking about and can help you out. So there's just arguing and negativity, not in the Grow cast community. We've got a community of people who are here to help you. We want to help you grow the way that you want to grow. We have professional Mary Beth Sanchez in there. She's diagnosing plant problems so we can get your garden thriving again. And then, most importantly, we've got a community to help not only lift each other up in our gardens, but also help each other swap gear, meet up for meetups. There's regional chapters all over the nation. The community itself is probably the greatest part of growcast membership, plus you get access to hundreds of hours of bonus content, monthly resources, members only discounts, amas and grow cast TV, live streams and all these fun things. It's all waiting for you. A grow cast podcast.com/membership, it's the best way to grow. Makes growing fun again, makes it easy. You'll never have a problem in your garden again, and you'll be able to meet so many like minded growers. It is a wonderful community, and I know you're gonna love it. It's all at growcast podcast.com/membership, I hope to see you there. Everybody. Come on in. We would love to see you in Grow cast membership.

Have you changed anything with your approach? You use Colloidal Silver, right? You don't use silver thiosulfate. You're doing it. I don't want to say old school, but older school kind of,

yeah, it's kind of older school, yeah. So actually, Jordan, today, in the middle I just got me a bottle of Fauci. Oh yes, the STS. I have to mix it. I've never actually had to mix this, mix this stuff before, but this is one that I'll have to actually mix. So this run, I am going to do a little bit different. I don't think it's a big step out of out of it's not really a big step out, but I'm going to use colloidal silver and a little bit of thiosulfate and just kind of mix it together. I'm still going to spray one week before I split to flower, and then I'll spray, like I said, probably 10 days into flower, because that's how I was taught by a freaking great grower named they. Well, I don't say his name, but I'm on Instagram at ganja farmer genetics, and at ganja farmer, he taught me how to do reversals. He and I did some of the earliest collabs that we've done. That's Squealer killer that I talked about sweater killer. That was his collab. I did with him, and it turned out so good. I was like, We got to keep it going. He's making F threes of a plant right now that are that is just ridiculous, guys. It's so good, but you got to go follow at ganja farmer genetics. He is a person who says nothing at all. He just plants and grows. He's a, he's a, he's an organic guy. He does all his stuff. He makes he he actually helped me learn how to make OHN a couple years ago too, in a different, a different way that I felt like, oh yeah, that's good. And I've learned a lot from him, man. And I want to, I want to give him that credit, but he kind of helped me learn a system, right? Just learn a method that works. He taught me this method of using colonial silver sprain one week before, two weeks after. And he even makes his own colonial silver stuff that we've used. And it, it works just fine, but this time, I'm going to mix it up a little bit. I'll spray probably twice with one and once with one, something like that. I've actually done this a little bit before, and a plant did reverse, but I never used it. It was just testing things out, just more experiment stuff. But it will be using those two reversal chemicals on this plant. Now, guys, when you use these products, you do not want to inhale it. You don't want to get it on your skin. You want to treat it as a toxic chemical, and just stay away from it totally. Let it dry on your plant. Don't put it on your other near your other plants. I'll have mine outside, and just let it dry off for a bit. But yeah, this isn't stuff. You play with you, you'll see people actually use colloidal filler as a as a health product. I have never done that, and I've always been told stay away from this crap. So I just want to put that warning out there. Definitely don't

want to breathe it in, that's for sure. And yeah, the even the silver thiosulfate, especially like gets all over the flowers, even with a few sprays, what do you do with that leftover flower? Do you compost it, or do you keep it out of your compost that

that goes to the trash, if it's been sprayed with COVID, silver or anything like that, that is a, definitely a harsh chemical. It just goes in the trash. It doesn't, I don't even put them on no tills or anything like that, because you don't, definitely don't smoke that flower. You throw it that, throw that thing away. Throw that reverse plant totally away. Got it. And you know another thing, Jordan, I'll throw this out there for people reversing. If you, if you have grown out a male, and you allowed it to flower out and to pollinate, you'll you'll notice, like that plant put out so much freaking pollen. It would pollinate a neighborhood. When you reverse a female, you typically do not get you you don't get that much pollen ever. But typically you get very little pollen, like sometimes even, you have to go in and work at pulling the pollen sacks off once they've opened, shake them over a little micron screen and let the pollen fall below. I've had to do that before, where I got hardly any pollen whatsoever. Still worked. The pollen, you know, pollinated, but you know, it's not a pollen to make a lot of seed of one strain you might want. So the reversal process, guys, there are lots and lots of ways to do this. There's different chemicals used. You know, Kid Mac is doing a reversal right now, and he's only spraying his plants four times with a certain product, and it's just a different way to cross. So I'm going to learn from him, definitely, if it worked or not. And the one thing I'm wanting to get at, to get better at, is is just the pollen dump. Like, I can get those pollen sacks everywhere. We can get pollen sacks all over the plant. Looks fantastic, but it's like, come on, babies, open up, open up and dump something out. You know, it's like begging for pollen. That's, that's probably one of my, one of my things that I wish I could get better at.

Yeah, I know that's the case with feminized in general. Like you said, you don't get that pollen delivery that the male brings ever basically. But, yeah, we'll see how the combo works. Keep us up to date on the colloidal combined with the STS. That's good stuff. Yep. I just want to know what else kind of your workflow looks like as you're doing these pollinations. Are you a big note taker, or is it all up in your brain? I will start taking notes in flower. Do you write down your notes? Or physically write them down? Or do you put them into a device? I

write them on, I write them on the panda film that's in gasoline alley with a dry race martyr. Oh, so you

write, you scroll all over the walls like a crazy like, What's that movie The Shining where he's like,

writing, like a psychotic cannabis madman, scribbles. Yeah, dude, I got a picture of it too. I'll send you one. I took a picture of my blueberry scribbling, and it's just, like, what I did was, I started with the date, I switched to flower, and it's basically almost every day there's a note, you know, somebody got more fruity. Somebody's getting fatter. This, this blueberry Squealer is outgrowing this blueberry Squealer, you know, just fun notes like that, man that and that. And again, that's how I came out with Bluetooth. And blueberry War Child was from those notes. You know, it's like, man, these two have a common blueberry mag muffin donor there that seems to just be busting out some fantastic genetics, you know? And it was, it was seeable. It was empirical evidence that that strain brought powerhouse to the genetic that was created. And so that's just something that you look for. And you often, you'll notice these things in veg, because typically what I do is I kind of over, over, populate the room, and when, especially when I'm popping seeds, whenever you get a plant that just wants to take off, I immediately give it a bigger pot, because it might be a female, and if it is, I want her to be big and awesome, and I'm going to clone her out and go keep going with it. But there'll often be times where you get the same exact strain, your same feed from the same pack, and this plant is four inches tall after five months, like, I've got one right now doing that very thing. It's like, why are you not growing? But I know I don't want that genetic, right? So you you can eliminate a lot in veg based on, based on a variety of things. But typically, what I always look at is, how green can I get that plant and the structure of the plant, I like to see that structure now. Structure can go out the door when you get into flower, and things don't look as like you wanted them. Yeah, right. It doesn't matter anymore. But in Veg, I'm looking for the structure. And the that main structure that I look for is the lower lateral branches passing through the the canopy, when I when I've got something that's doing that I always, always have a good genetic come out of that, a good grower, an aggressive grower that will. And I always grow my stuff outside too. I'll breed indoors. And then the summertime, I grow my own stuff. I grow it outdoors and just see what it does.

Yeah, that lateral branching, that's my favorite. The Ice Cream wolfman tends to do that. And what that lends itself to is like, sometimes you'll only need to top those bad boys once, and then the rest takes care of itself. And I think what that lends itself is, is that if you give a new grower genetics that do something like that, they're gonna have a good yield their first time, even if they don't top even once, because it's more like you said the side and lower branches are more even with the top of the canopy. I've had some strains that grow like a stick if you don't top them, literally, just like one straight stick. And if you give that to a new grower and they don't top it, they're going to have shitty yields because they only have one top per pot. So yes, I think that's why that particular like candelabra structure is good, especially for beginner growers who might not know how to train a plant out to look like that.

That's right. So you said exactly what I was going to say next, that lower branching. What happens is often when a lower branch pops the canopy, it will outgrow the meristem and off. Sometimes it'll continue to outgrow the mare stem, even if you haven't topped it, and there'll be other ones get up around it. The the main reason I picked my blueberry Squealer In veg is because of the lateral branching. Right now, the Squealer killer, which came from the blueberry Squealer, it has the lateral branching popping straight out of the canopy. The very bottom branch is popping out of the top of the canopy. The plant is probably about a foot and a half to two feet tall right now, and it's a gorgeous it's exactly what we hunted in the blueberry squealers. So the one I don't like is when I have a plant that will grow a big, 20 inch meristem and have no side branching. And, you know, I don't like that look. But one thing that I have been studying, and this was really a brand new a brand new thing in biology and plants, to be specific, is what's called the preserved invariant. And there's also another one called God. What is it called? I wish I could remember the name, but it's, it's how a plant understands its form. I can't remember the name. But what is so cool about this is, like, when a plant goes into a windy condition and it sways or or a branch is broken, or it's bent over, there's a natural memory, if you will, for that plant to go back to the structure it actually wants to be in. And there's a name for that. And I can't remember the name, uh, Prio, something. And these things that you look for, these preserved invariants, it just means a thing that won't change throughout the breeding, like it always is there. It always comes back. And those are fun things to begin to look for and and like I said, I'm seeing those from the blueberry Squealer into the Squealer killer, the lower branching, it's popping out. But those are those things that are passed on that are fun to see in the lineages, of things that you have bred before, as you well know. Yeah,

that's good stuff, man. I'm excited to see what comes out of this pollination. You got to keep us up. I'm a huge fan of the Chimera. Personally, Farmer John does a really great job with that chimera. Great friend of the show. Should be coming on soon. Shout out, Farmer John, yeah, and I just like the shape of that bud. I like the flavor. You know, it's got this, like, sweet vanilla thing sometimes, depending on which one you got, but yeah,

it can go truffly, yeah, it can do a, can do a, like you said, there's a vanilla or a truffle or a lighter. It's a lighter thing to it to me the camera I used, it wasn't a loud chirp at all. It was, it was a sweeter truffle kind of thing, maybe frosting, something like that. Yeah,

I wouldn't say like the loudest definitely had a good, I would say strong smell to it. But you're right, it's not like the most volatile smell, yeah? You know, Oreos is like, yeah, Oreos is the same way. It's got a great smell, if it's done right, but it's not the loudest smell in the world. That Oreos is a sexy looking plant, yeah? Real looker. And if you do it right, you get some really good notes out of it. But it's like, it's like, you said, it's not like a sour diesel from back in the day, where you'd have one bud in your pocket and, like, Reek up the whole Thanksgiving dinner, you know, like, that stuff was volatile. Some of those strains back in the day, I feel like were especially volatile. But yeah, I like it all. I like it all. Man, yeah, I want all those different flavors. So I'm excited to to see how this, how this run comes out. Well, what's going on next for Okay, Calix, so after this pollination is over, do you have your site set on anything in particular? Are you just going to keep finding stuff that interests

you well? So no, here's I got, we got plans, man, lots and lots of plans. You know, as you well know, here in Oklahoma, the governing medical marijuana board kind of wiped out 50% of our growers and processors, basically, and a few months ago, and things have been very difficult for a lot of people for a simple fact that they can't get their licenses okay to grow, or simply get the stamp of approval from this body to say, Okay, go. So a lot of them are in limbo. Their facilities are spotless and ready to go, but they can't do anything. Yeah, and so I'm kind of waiting on a couple of guys that we're going to be breeding at their grow facility, their growers and processors. And one of them is going to be scissor tail, solventless. We've got his place spotless. It's ready to go by. Nothing. Happening right now, and it hasn't been happening for three months, but that'll be the next that's why I've got the belief Lab project one, project two will be at Scissortail solventless. Project three is probably going to be outside in the summertime, and that's my future plans for for breeding. Once scissor tail solids gets the Okay, we're going to knock that place out. The goal there is to find him a washer that is super fruity. That's the first goal. And then we'll have lots of other fun goals that we're going to try to do. And as I breed and create new things, he gets to grow them out. If they're great, we keep them. If not, we ask them. I'll be keeping seeds, and we'll be producing newly new lines there. I'll have new lines out at the website. It's awesome partnership that we'll be doing. And like I said, the next thing after a gasoline Alley is over, which I'm assuming that would be March, sometime right when gasoline is alley, I'll gasoline Alley is done. I'll be figuring out what plants I want to grow outside. I'll have them growing inside March and probably half of April, try to get them maybe two to three feet tall. Then I'll move them outside late April. I'll have supplemental lighting on them all the way till probably the end of July, and I'm going to plant I I've told a couple people, I something in me right now is wanting to grow the biggest, freaking tallest, fattest plant that I can. Because last year, my no till spot, put out massive plants Jordan, it's like, it's just, it's like it's prime. It's like it's hitting its prime right now, I've worked this spot for probably eight years, man. And you know how I do it? Soil layer, all those fruits, fruits and compost and organic matter, constantly dumping. JLF, it's so rich and just powdery and dark and, man, I feel like I can grow some beasts kind of want to do that just for fun, just to see a big, massive, you know, maybe 15 footer, if I can get her up that high.

Yeah, sure you can. Man, no reason you can't. You're doing in ground, right? If you want big plants outdoor, in ground, you can't get any better than that. Those humble boys used to do it like that. They go up on the hill and grow plants that, you know, 17 feet tall. Yeah,

they're massive, you know. And those pots, or if they ever grow in those pots, you notice those pots are, like, foot, foot and a half deep, but they're about 1515, feet wide, you know? Yeah, those, those Canvas plants roots like to go later on, you can make them big. And basically, with any plant, you know, the the drip line of a tree goes out to the edge of the root. That's kind of the setup of a tree. And just like any plant, the families want to go out to the edge of the root, yeah, so they can feed itself. And once you bind the roots up, that plant says, Well, hold on, we don't need to go too far. The roots are only right here, you know? So, yeah, bigger pot, bigger plant.

That's exactly right. Mary Beth enlightened us to another reason why the leaves always keep up with the roots to shade the ground. Boom, mind blown. To shade the ground to help

the room the moisture there keeps temperatures adjusted. Nice. Listen, man,

you've been killing it. We appreciate you. Okay, callux on Instagram if you want a ton more education. We also have some great grow cast TVs for the members in our Patreon library. You did great on grow cast TV several times. Man, so I want to thank you for that. Love it. And where can people find more of you? The website is the best place. Well, let

me tell you this for I tell you that I want everybody know I watched Jordan too. I watched him with Kid Mac on Patreon on Wednesday. And just was fantastic. Listening to Malachi Kevin and seeing Jordan out there in Hawaii. I want to be out there so dang freaking bad. Oh my gosh, what a wonderful place. So yeah, I watch girl cast too. Man, I benefit from you guys also. But you can, you can find me at okay, Calix and at Okay, call its genetics on Instagram. My email is okay. Calyx@gmail.com got a website now that kid Mac did all himself. Shout out to my man kid, Mac, He's a beast of a guy. He just freaking can get things done. He set up the website for me. It is okay. Call its.com everything is okay. Call it's simple. I try to keep it all the same. My business is okay. Call its organics. You can check the website out for some genetics, and on the website, you'll find IMO, two through five, em five, oh n bukashi. At the beginning of the year, I'll be putting up some bundle cells, like IPM bundles, where I use my oh and em five and Turkey Tail fermented plant extracts. I'll have IMO three bundles, which would be like a probably five pounds of IMO, acorn, IMO, three and probably like a jar of OHN, some genetics. I always feel goodie bags. Y'all, if any, y'all, got my stuff. You know that I threw extras in because that's what makes it fun, man. I got slaps, all kinds of slaps that are my slaps and other people's slabs. I put Farmer John slaps in there. Yeah. Shout out to that man. He gave me a bunch of them. I always put his slaps in there. The candies, extra genetics, because when you make seeds, guys, man, when you make when you breathe, if you do it right, you have one plant that comes up to about your belly button, navel area, you could get 500 to 1000 seeds off a good like I said, don't you worry about. What anybody else says, and start breeding. And get you some seeds and be proud of them, pop them, grow them out, see what they do. That's the fun of this entire process. I did not get into this to be any kind of big name anybody. I got in it because I wanted to do it. I wanted to get into breeding. I want to know everything about it. I had no plans of selling any of it. I wanted to learn and do it, and I'm still learning, and I'm still trying to do this stuff. So again, I give you, I encourage people give it a try. You can do it, but check out the web page. There's also, we've also got a grow cast discount code going up for you guys. That's right, anyone's telling about that? One

code, grow cast, 10% off your purchase. Get your microbes, get your whatever you need. It's an okay calyx. Now that's okay, c, a, l, y, x, x, x,

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grow cast and then members getting 20% off this, right? So thank you to Okay, call X. Thank you for the collab. Thank you for everything. My brother and Godspeed, keep doing what you're doing and keep us up to date on this awesome, awesome pollination. I'm gonna keep

you up to date, and I'm also send you a video of the land that I am proposing that we do that class at. And you guys, if you're members, he'll be able to show you I go slow. If one video, I go slowly, and then I speed it up so you don't have to wait, and I go to the next spot and show you stuff. But it's the land that we that we potentially could be walking in, gathering mushrooms, gathering materials, and I'm going to show you how I make stuff that cost me nothing but hard

work. That is exactly what we're going to do, guys, stay tuned this fall that'll be dropping some details soon. One more time. Thank you. Okay, callux. I appreciate you, buddy. Thank you, brother. Appreciate you too. Bye, guys. Alright, everyone. We'll see you next time. This is Jordan River and okcalx signing off. Be safe out there and grow smarter. That's our show. Thank you so much to okca, Alex, and thank you to you, dear listener, make sure to check out everything we have going to grow cast podcast.com There you'll find the membership, the seeds, upcoming events, all sorts of fun stuff. We got the cultivators cup coming up. That's April 13. That's right. This is an event that's selling out really quickly, so go ahead and email contact@growcastpodcast.com if you're interested in entering the cultivators cup that is in Rockford, Illinois, April 13, that will be there from 4pm to 10pm and like I said, tickets are going fast. We're just processing people one by one, and it's filling up really quickly with the members and everybody. So email contact@growcastpodcast.com we'll get you taken care of and I hope to see you there. Everybody very excited about the 2024, Colt faders cup in Rockford, Illinois. All right, that's all for today. Thank you so much for tuning in. We'll see you next time. Everybody Bye, bye. You

and I could see that man. I was like, Oh my gosh, and start walking that way. I.