Excellencies ladies and gentlemen, dear colleagues, good morning. Welcome to the splinter session of the ad hoc committee. Please take your seats turn off your mobile phones like at the cinema before moving on to Item four of the agenda, let me offer my condolences to the Namibian delegation. Following the death of President has gang up as a mark of sympathy with our Namibian colleagues on the sad sad occasion, I invite you to observe a minute's silence in tribute to the late head of state and you will recall his active work against colonialism anti apartheid a minute of silence please.
Thank you very much. Now we proceed with the consideration of Agenda Item four entitled draft General Assembly Resolution. As you know, in line with the roadmap and mode of work, the ad hoc committee at this concluding session is to discuss and approve a draft resolution to which the text of the draft convention will be annexed for consideration and adoption by the General Assembly other 78 session in 2024. In this regard, I prepared with the assistance of the Secretariat to draft document for consideration by the ad hoc committee. Accordingly, the committee has before it a document entitled draft resolution for consideration by the General Assembly marked as a slash a C 291 slash 25, which is available in the six official languages of the United Nations. This draft resolution follows the structure and reprises the language found in general assembly resolution 55. Slash 25, entitled United Nations Convention against transnational organized crime and General Assembly resolution 58. Slash for entitled United Nations Convention against Corruption. In both cases of the UN Convention against transnational organized crime and the UN Convention against Corruption. Draft resolutions submitted by the respective ad hoc committees had relevant draft conventions are next for consideration and adoption by the General Assembly. The present draft resolution thus follows the structure of both the talk and the uncap resolutions and is therefore technical in nature. It deals mainly with the modalities and procedures for the adoption of the convention. And its implementation, including on matters pertaining to the Conference of States Parties to the Convention. The establishment of the Secretariat and the availability of resources, I will now give a brief explanation of the resolution how it's going to work. Of the four preambular, paragraphs, paragraphs 123 are taken almost verbatim from the resolutions on the transnational organized crime convention and the resolution on the UN Convention against Corruption. Only preambular paragraph four contains substantive language based on what I believe could be conducive to consensus preambular paragraphs one and two. cite the founding resolutions of the ad hoc committee and I inspired by the preamble of paragraphs one and two of the Antioch and the UNCAC resolutions. preambular paragraph three on the need to strengthen international cooperation to prevent and combat cybercrime isn't inspired by preambular Paragraph seven of the Antioch resolution and preambular Paragraph nine of the UNCAC resolution preambular paragraph four is inspired by preambular Paragraph 10 of the resolution on Transnational Organized Crime and reflects proposals made by member states throughout the drafting process of the convention. It underlines the important contribution that this convention will make to combating both cyber dependent and cyber enabled crime. Now with regard to the operative part of the resolution operative paragraphs one to five and seven to nine, reproduce the and talk and the UNCAC resolutions with some minor amendments to adapt them to our specific context. Only LP six contains new wording aimed at providing a general direction for the implementation of this new convention. Operator paragraphs one two concern the reports of the concluding session on the formal adoption of the convention. And the mirror operative paragraphs one and two of the resolutions I mentioned above all p one. This has been included in the event that a member state would offer to host a high level political conference for the purpose of signing the convention, as was done for the untarred convention in Palermo, and UNCAC in metadata. I invite member states to express their interest should this be the case otherwise the default procedure will be for the convention to be open for signature at the United Nations headquarters here in New York. offers your photographs three reprises overdue paragraph eight of the Antioch resolution and operative paragraph three of the UNCAC resolution overdue paragraph four on the funding of technical assistance offered by the United Nations is modeled after offers paragraph nine of the Antioch resolution and offers a paragraph four of the UNCAC resolution offers a paragraph five on yet another meeting of the ad hoc committee to prepare the draft rules of procedure for the future. Conference of States by TOS is based on operative paragraph 10 of the resolution on the UN Convention on Transnational Organized Crime and oversee paragraph five of the resolution on the UN Convention against Corruption. Operative paragraph six gifts the Conference of States Parties is first formal tasks concerning the implementation of the Convention. It is inspired by RP six of both earlier resolutions. Operative paragraph seven reflects Opie 11 of the Antioch resolution and LP eight of the UNCAC resolution and provides for the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime to serve as the Secretariat of the Conference of States patches. RPE eight concerns the provision of resources, both for organising a potential high level political signing conference. And for the Secretariat to carry out its mandate. It is based on LP 12 of the Al TOC resolution and LP nine of the UNCAC resolution. LP eight bis choruses corresponds to paragraph three of the Antioch resolution. And paragraph 10 of the UNCAC resolution, respectively. It wouldn't be included if we indeed organize a high level political signing conference. Finally, LP nine reflects of operative paragraph seven of the UN talk resolution and concerns the designation of an international anti cybercrime day.
It is for the consideration of the Committee of course, and it may or may not be included in the final text. I now invite delegations to consider this draft, and to submit further proposals if so desired, while bearing in mind that the limited time available to the committee to fulfill its mandate. It ends in four days. Because of that, I would further invite delegations to take the floor for focus comments on the draft resolution that aim at strengthening the text if needed, and ask the Secretariat to make the changes in track change mode. Due to the technical nature of this resolution and the fact that it is mainly based on consensus language. I hope we can come to a swift agreement as to its content. I now open the floor derogations. I invited to speak and we'll proceed with the list of speakers. Let me remind you that most of the language in this draft resolution has already met with consensus during the adoption of respective resolutions on ontology and UNCAC, thank you very much.
We have Thailand and the Russian Federation. Guideline Thailand threes.
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Russian Federation. It's not a mistake.
Thank you Madam Chair. Thank you very much for giving us the floor. National delegation on the whole is satisfied with the proposed draft resolution. The preambular part makes it clear that the future convention will be an effective instrument and the necessary basis for international cooperation, preventing and combating this type of crime. With references to the most dangerous types of crime. We also support the idea of introducing an international cybercrime day. Having said that, let me note that the title of the resolution, the GA resolution that will accompany the text of the convention must be in line with the language endorsed by the ad hoc committee. Therefore, we suggest calling it countering the use of ICT for criminal purposes.
Let me also note, this would be only partial fulfillment by the ad hoc committee on its mandate provided for by the UN General Assembly resolution. The international treaty being developed here must be universal comprehensive, that is, ensure broad criminalization of criminal offenses and provide for effective ways of international cooperation among law enforcement bodies of member states to counter ICT crime. Counter means not only cooperating over crimes already committed, but only the type of cooperation among states that helps prevent such offenses. Therefore, we suggest that the resolution should contain a reference to the need of urgent starting in 2024 work to develop an additional protocol outlining additional types of offenses using ICT something that a number of states have significant number of states here has supported we suggest the following text for that purpose paragraph five
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this site yes, that the ad hoc committee shall continue its work mutatis mutandis. In accordance with resolutions 74 Slash 247 of the 27th December 2019 and resolution 75. To a to have 26th of May 2021. To elaborate a draft protocol addressing additional forms of offenses and relevant mechanisms consisting with the scope in implementation of the Convention if needed for that purpose. addition if needed additional forms of offenses under relevant mechanism mechanisms consistent with the scope and implementation of the Convention if needed for that point. For that purpose, three negotiating sessions have a duration of 10 working days each with the first and second sessions taking place in 2024. And the third session taking place in the first half of 2025 should be conducted for purposes of adopting the draft protocol to the General Assembly as soon as possible. Thank you very much Madam Chair.
I have on my list Iran.
Thank you very much, Madam Chair. Good morning to you and all of the distinguished delegations. Madam Chair, do you to the significance of international corporations in combating and countering the ICT crimes or cyber crime. My delegation would like to propose one paragraph in parallel in, in, in this resolution in preamble, 3 bis, I read strongly urging states to refrain from promulgating and applying any unilateral economic, financial or trade measures, not in accordance with international law and, and the Charter of the United Nations that impede the achievement of the purposes of the convention, particularly for developing countries and hinder international cooperation in fighting the use of information and communication technologies for criminal purposes. And Madame chair in the next paragraph in preamble, my delegation would like to propose delete the crime that affects the environment and propose to add this wording incitement to violence and dissemination of misinformation or this information and regarding for the article, one beasts, Madam Chair, we have some excellent eater a note that we will give it give it later. And article paragraph three, operative we believe that according to the our deliberations and consultations in the informal meetings on use of terms they regarding for the competent regional economic integration organization,
In the article in sub paragraph paragraph five. We propose at the end of the word in that regard, comma. And so paragraph a paragraph five to address the challenges and major impediments that developing countries Excuse me, do you? Yes. You repeat EP five Yeah. PP five? Operative operative operative five. operative? That's right. request that the Conference of the That's right, P O P five. After the in that regard.
Yes, to address the challenges and major impediments that developing countries faced in fighting the use of ICT for criminal purposes, including impediments on their access to technology. In that paragraph, we propose to delete the challenges after the experience because we need to address not to promote after the experiences to delete challenges and That's it. Thank you, Madam Chair.
Thank you very much. I'd like to inform delegations that beginning today, statements will be limited to three minutes in duration, I'm sure you understand why we only have four days left. So that's why unfortunately, we're forced to limit speaking time, particularly as we're in the final phase here. So we're looking for specific amendments if required, I'm not discouraging you from making them. But if you need to make proposals do so concisely, please and within the three minute speaking time per state party. Thank you, Are there any other requests for the floor?
Is the room ready to adopt the amendments suggested by Russia and Iran's United States, please?
Unfortunately, not Madam Chair, and thank you for the floor. We were prepared to very much largely accept the resolution as drafted. We agree with you obviously, that it was well drawn from the adopting resolutions from the other conventions that we've had reference to, we were hoping that the name of the convention would be something that would be settled in in other rooms of discussion, but we cannot go along with the use of this title. We prefer countering cybercrime as the title of the convention, for reasons that have been explored in the terminology group. And in brief, because it's a term that protects practitioners understand and is tailored to the scope of this convention. In preambular, paragraph, I believe it is for where there is a list of offenses. Because a similar but not identical list appears also in the preamble of the convention, we would have concerns about duplicating that list here. As well as not precisely corresponding with the list that is in the preamble until we would call for the deletion of this list, starting after the word crimes in line four. So ending this paragraph at crimes. We also do not support the alt five proposed by our Russian colleagues again, because that is an issue that is bound up in the informal discussion on the scope of this treaty. We do not at this point support the elaboration of protocols. But we also simply don't want to prejudge the outcome of that discussion here today. And finally, Madam Chair, we do not support the language proposed by the delegate of Iran, where the US has applied sanctions we have done so in accordance with international law. They are an effective tool, and the proposals raised today have no precedent in international instruments, and would greatly impede the progress this committee has made so far. Our goal is to enhance international cooperation. But we do not share the view that nationally imposed sanctions are obstacles to international cooperation, and they should not be referenced in this instrument. They are not unjustified. And we cannot support this false narrative. Thank you, Madam Chair.
Thank you very much. Thank you also for respecting the time limit. Morocco, please.
Thank you, Madam Chair. Good morning, colleagues. I'll be brief. As you have requested, we might delegation values the fact that the draft resolution is based mostly on agreed language and we would encourage keeping it procedural on the title quickly since this is a debate that is still ongoing, especially the the discussion we're having about the use of terms we would add our voice to have in cybercrime. On PP four, we would request the deletion of the listing of crimes as the principal position that we have highlighted before in formals. And also on the ongoing discussion regarding the scope of criminalisation op three, we would request adding member before states that's the GA language we don't refer to states but as member states because we are calling on them to to take the action and on five base that has been proposed by the distinguished delegation of Russia. We would respectfully call for its deletion. This is again a discussion That was still on Oh, and we still haven't on what we want after the adoption of the convention. And as we have highlighted before, this is a premature call to have an additional protocol, we will cross that bridge when we get to it. Thank you..
Thank you. Any other speakers wishing to take the floor? China please.
Thank you, Madam Chair. With regard to P before we support you as position we should keep the current text we support the US position that we should keep the current draft to the revolution. As USF this paragraph is in the PP part of the convention. We don't see the need to delete it displays. So some of the crimes are already destroyed in the convention. Therefore, we propose to keep the text of the crimes of the list of the crimes. Thank you, Madam Chair.
Thank you, China, Australia, then Israel.
Thank you very much, Madam Chair, Australia, like the US cannot support the list of crimes in PP four. We think that this paragraph is highly dependent on the outcome of the ongoing discussions about the scope of the convention. And for this reason, we'd like to end at the list of end at the reference to crimes. In fact, we think this, this can end with cyber dependent and cyber cyber enabled crimes. In regards to the Russian Federation's proposal, Australia, similarly to the US cannot accept this. Like we've said in other negotiations for this this treaty, we think this is ongoing with with our agreements about scope. And so we cannot accept this in this resolution. In regards to Iran's proposal to reference unilateral measures. I agree with what the United States said. And as Shelley who would like to put our name against that comment as well. Thank you. Missy,
thank you, Israel, followed by Canada.
we support the US text, we don't see any necessity to change it. We want to keep it as as it is. Thank you, Chair.
Canada, Mauritania than Vanuatu, please.
Thank you, Madam Chair. Good morning colleagues, as a few others have already said, Canada was was mostly quite satisfied with the draft that you put together of this resolution, we were hopeful for a fleeting moment that we might be able to broadly be on the same page with, you know, some, some tweaks, but But it appears that there is also on some states of preference to to overhaul aspects of the resolution, and we would not, at this point be in favor of doing that. Just to flag, though, that there are a number of issues being discussed in the negotiations that may still be relevant for the adopting resolution, depending on how those negotiations conclude there may be space in the resolution to to reflect some of those issues. We don't you know, have anything specific in mind but just to leave that door possibly open. And I think on the the more specifics, we would support the clear title of the resolution that that the United States has put forward. That's no secret that we are preferring the term cybercrime and As a clear and understandable term, the list of offenses and PPE for again, this is something we discussed in the prelim preamble discussions and something that we were able to swallow. Even though we were very much concerned with that list, we're able to accept in the preamble but not in the resolution and not in it's certainly not in its current form. On the protocol paragraph that the Russian Federation is proposed, we don't see this as constructive, necessarily as a way forward. We are trying to get the convention settled. And it is premature in our eyes to be looking at a protocol and certainly in such directive language, that this is telling us that we need to adopt a protocol. And that that is very it's not logical for us to make that step and make that as a requirement. And then just on on the texts proposed by Iran on on unilateral measures in five bis is not something that we can support. That's a very, very political issue here in New York and and does not belong in this technical resolution. Thank you. Missy.
Thank you very much. I'll read the latest speakers list, Mauritania, Vanuatu, Japan, Eritrea, Georgia. Mauritania, please.
Thank you, Madam Chairperson. Good morning. In paragraph five of the draft resolution, it states that we call upon the Secretary General to mandate the UN Office to be responsible of the Secretariat, we believe that this is premature, because we have not yet decided who will be responsible of the secretariat will it be the Secretary General himself or the UN Office? So it is premature, and it will depend on Article 51 of the draft? resolution. Thank you.
Thank you, Vanuatu. Please.
Thank you, Madam Chair. Thank you for giving us an opportunity to, to present our views again. But lastly, we support the US, the People's Republic of China a number of other distinguished delegate delegate delegates, in relation to the retention of the language of this preamble, Madam Chair, largely because it's, it reflects the the, the number of or the, the number of international conventions that are presently in place. Secondly, we support the US position in relation to the title as well, simply because the title is fairly widely used in by practitioners in the world. We do not support like the US elaboration of the protocol, we believe that is perhaps inappropriate at this point. And also, lastly, Madam Chair, we do not support the the proposal by the delet distinguished delegate of Iran in relation to three beasts in respect of the promulgation of sanctions, Madam Chair, we believe that is appropriate in the context of this convention. Thank you very much, Madam Chair.
Thank you, Japan, please.
Thank you, Madam Chair. Good morning to you all. I took the floor just to to join the the other delegations in supporting the distinguished distinguished delegates of the United States Health said in each every single point that they made, and so we share the concerns over the over the list of crimes that are included in the PP four that the Canadian delegation made this point of, so thank you.
Thank you, Eritrea.
Thank you, Madam Chair, like delegation wishes to make some comments with respect to the title on five B's, that is future protocols. And the last one is on the UCM. unilateral measures on title by delegation support the proposal of the Russian Federation that is consistent with resolution 74 slash 247. And Jerry's version 75 to a two on five B's I might delegation support the need to have this paragraph but I'm also also flexible to exhaust our discussions in four months. I understand he is also considered in that room. Finally on UCM, this is illegal This is not consistent with the UN Charter. Here in this room, we are talking about establishing international cooperation and UCL does impede international cooperation. Some of our countries are affected by it. And we have a lot of experience, the impact of UCL are talking about and Jeff.
Yes, thank you, Egypt.
Thank you very much, Madam Chair and allow me to commend your relentless efforts. Aiming at reaching consensus on both the text of the draft resolution and the draft convention. I was not expecting us to be listing our names and issues that are being discussed under other formats and in other rooms in order to reach consensus on a package deal. But since the practice is being as such, then Egypt would like to add its name on the title after the Russian Federation, and Eritrea. Also on PP four on the list of crimes, were supportive to retaining the list of crimes so on op five, this the Russian Federation, we support the Russian Federation proposal. And on op six, we support Iran proposal. Thank you Madam Chair.
Thank you very much, Georgia, please.
Thank you, Madam Chair. Good morning. We are generally support to the draft resolution is drafted. document is drafted. However, we have strong objection to the title that was proposed by the US Russia Federation we prefer using cyber crime, which is more precise word. We also do not agree with the list of offenses in PP form. And we also object to five piece. Thank you. Merci beaucoup.
Thank you very much on the list, we have the Republic of Korea, Yemen, Cuba, Mali, Republic of Korea, please.
Thank you, Madam Chair. We are supportive of the draft resolution as presented by you, Madam Chair. And we just like to ask the deletion of the the listing of the crimes in prepare, PP for and on the title. We also support US and Canada and others in supporting using cyber crime in the title and also with respect to some proposed wording by Russia and Iran. We are not in favor of this amendments. For the reason that has been also explained by many other previous speakers. Thank you.
Thank you. Yeah, man, please.
Thank you Madam Chair. I have a few comments with regard to this draft resolution first the scope of application and the title, we proposed crimes based on the text of the convention. So it should stay that way. With regard to the offenses and prevention the suppression of crimes we have to do both. So, we should also add the word combating in addition to preventing in paragraph four. And that's my last comment. There's a list of offenses. We would like to also have a reference to new types of cybercrime.
Thank you, Cuba.
Thank you very much, Madam Chair. My delegation is very grateful for the efforts that you and your team are making to find a consensus within our work. We'd like to add our name to the list of countries that supports the proposal made by the Russian delegation on the title. Furthermore, we'd like to express our firm support for the proposal made by Iran in the PP. We also think that it would be very helpful to continue negotiations on next protocol to be able to include more crimes on this under this Master. Thank you.
Thank you, Mary.
Thank you very much, Madam Chair. With regard to the title of the convention, we think the proposal made by Russia is self explanatory. Even though cybercrime was a generic term, an international convention is meant for everybody to read even Lape laypersons. So it's important to make it clear what it says and cybercrime is a general generic term. And we believe we should return the term that is more clarifying. As a developing country. We would like to oppose five bis
chilly.
One of the Good morning Madam Chair, thank you very much for giving me the floor. My delegation would like to express its view on the title of the convention. We'd like to support the proposal made by the distinguished delegation of the United States, on PP four. We do not agree with the list of crimes described therein. So we also support deletion, deleting it. That's the list of crimes that we'd like to delete on five base. At the moment, we can't support the extension of the mandate of the special committee because this is something that we're discussing within and foremost. Thank you.
Going through India, European Union, Europe, why? Burkina Faso? Iran, a gang Nicaragua, and Iceland, India, please.
Thank you, Madam Chair, in PP for would like to return the list of offenses. Thank you
Thank you. European Union.
Thank you, Madam Chair. It's 27 Member States on the title, agree with the delegation, we have reminded that this is I mean, still being discussed in other forum. But as many speakers have already started on this, we would like to join our voice to the United States in when it comes to the title, I mean, also, let's be clear, if we think about what we want to achieve the what will the media say perhaps at the end of the week, like the UN have achieved to a convention on countering the use of information and communication technology for criminal purposes, nobody will notice that whereas a convention on cybercrime, it is much more sexy, frankly, speaking. That That being said, now for the PPF. For Yes, so what have we join the US on objecting to the things on sanctions? On DP five, same thing, there's no need to have such a long list of columns in the resolution, we have them in the preamble. That makes no sense. Then op. IVs. So this, of course, I mean, this is discussed in the framework of the discussion with you Madam Chair, in the informers on the scope, and on the scope and the safeguards, so we don't see the need to have this discussion now. So we would object to its inclusion there. And then on OPC x. On the text which has been provided by the distinguished delegate of Iran, we would delete the vows after criminal purposes. So the word including impediments on the access to technology, I mean, this is not within the scope of that convention. There are other tools and firewall to discuss access to the technology. This is not for for this convention. So we request the deletion of the word including impediments on the access to technology.
thank you very much. You're why please.
You. Thank you, Madam Chair. Good morning to you all, to comments on this draft resolution. Firstly, in general terms, Uruguay is satisfied with the draft presented by the chair. We understand that what is best for all of us is if we try to maintain this text as technical as and procedural as possible, in light of the fact that we should be focusing on the text of the convention most of all, as a second comment, there are a few aspects of this draft resolution that are being are still subject to negotiations and informals. And in the package with various forms of consensus, my delegation won't be expressing its views in this format on its preferences on this text, we understand that the most productive way forward would be to focus on the informals and not the discussions here. So we will express our views and inform us and we'll continue our participation in the informal Thank you
Thank you, Burkina Faso.
Madam Chair. With regard to the title our delegation would like to keep the text before us with reference to communication and information technology is used for criminal purposes on LP five, this we favor including it under Text. Thank you.
Thank you, Nicaragua.
Nicaragua would like to add its list to the titles suggested by Russia and we also support the Russian suggestion on five best We also want to support proposed support the proposal made by Iran on PP four. Thank you,
Iran.
Thank you, Madam Chair. My delegation would like to support the title of convention as Russian delegation proposed with the consistent with the previous, our previous resolution in this regard. And the other hand regarding for the Russian Federation proposal on additional political my delegation would like to support the Russian proposal. Thank you.
Thank you, Iceland.
Good morning, Madam Chair. And thank you for getting us started this week, which I hope will be a successful one within these talks. Now I slant on the specific proposals under discussion. On the title, we would like to support the use of cybercrime. And if we are using adjectives, I would go for the use of practical, and that this is a clarity issue on the proposal by our UN neighbors from Iran, we do understand that sanctions are a highly important issue for Iran, but due to the political nature of it, we agree with Canada that this kind of proposal would better belong elsewhere and support deletion. I'm so sorry. Regarding the list of crimes in para four before we support the proposal to delete. And lastly, on the proposal from our Russian colleagues on a protocol in in five pace, we support deletion as well, given that this is premature discussion in this context, and I just hope that we can proceed to, to agreeing to the draft text of this resolution with without spending too much time on it because we have much else to do. Thank you so much.
Thank you Venezuela, Paraguay, Peru, Albania, El Salvador, Indonesia, Algeria, Costa Rica, Australia, Russian Federation, South Africa, Israel, Angola, Tanzania, United Kingdom, Venezuela now.
Thank you very much, Madam Chair. Good morning to all of you. On the name of the convention. The Bolivarian republic of Venezuela would like to reiterate the original name, we have sustained the same position since the beginning that the convention should cover the crime, ICT based crimes, we believe that that's the most technical name, bearing in mind emerging trends and developing trends in this field. On PP four we agree with keeping the list of crimes in the original text. Now on three bass, we support Iran's proposal that states shouldn't be using this instrument to promote unilateral economic and financial measures under international law. On five best we support the elaboration of the protocols and on paragraph six, we support the proposal made by Ron Thank you.
Thank you Paraguaya.
the title. We can't overlook the precedents and all of the work that we've done on the convention throughout this time, objectively speaking, and based on the spirit of this convention and the fact that it will be a instrument to fight cybercrime for all those working in the justice sector. On based on the basis of all of this we support the proposal made by the United States Thank you.
Thank you pedal.
thank you very much Madam Chair. Likewise, Peru supports in light of our experience and the current times we support the the title being including the word cybercrime.
thank you very much Albania.
Albania supports the in the title the statement of us or something Before we join, the US objecting on PP five we need, we also consider that there is no need for such long list of crimes. And five B's we object the inclusion of this paragraph on the on P six we request deletion on words only and brackets. So we support the inserted but deletion of the words in brackets. Thank you, Madam Chair.
Thank you, El Salvador.
Thank you very much, Madam Chair, it's always a pleasure to be able to be here with you. So, delegation, we think that it would be helpful to work on the basis of a prayer text presented by you, and we stand ready to promote support along those same lines. However, we note with concern that in light of the recent proposals put forward we need to firstly conclude informal consultations that are happening in parallel on some elements that are still subject to negotiation. These include one of the elements in the new revised version of the package known as the protocol on that protocol, while my delegation sees some merit in defining the mandate, and the fact that we now delineate the purpose of that protocol, we think, nonetheless, that it is worrisome that we are scheduling sessions in 2024, without bearing in mind the potential budgetary implications that that might have. Particularly when at the headquarters of this organization here in New York, there is a liquidity crisis. For this reason, we reserve our position on the Russian proposal on the rest of the proposals. We are still looking at these. So we reserve the right to come back with further comments at a later stage on those. Thank you very much. He beaucoup. Thank
you, Indonesia, followed by Algeria.
Thank you, Madam Chair. And thank you for Thank you, Andy scatterer for preparing this draft for solutions. I will be very brief my delegation I would like to comment on before our preference is to have to support the original tax as proposed by the chair. Thank you.
Merci beaucoup. Thank
you very much Algeria.
We do support the draft resolution you have proposed to the room and for the title. Madam Chair, we have preference for using using the ICTs for criminal purposes. But my delegation look forward to see the outcome of the discussion on this subject in the informal discussion of use of terms for the list of crimes in para four, we are for retaining the draft text. For five base. We understand madam chair that cybercrime is an evolving phenomena. That's why my delegation see the merit to discuss thoroughly this idea of the extension of the mandate, but we look forward to work with the other delegation to discuss especially in the informal this this afternoon. Thank you Madam Chair.
Merci beaucoup. Thank
you, Costa Rica.
Gracia Thank you, Madam Chair. We can say initially that we are in a position to support the proposal made by the chair on this resolution. We would also like to make a few comments on specific points that have been raised this morning on the name and the big. At the beginning of the negotiations, we said that we supported a name related to cybercrime. We know that this is an unfinished discussion which is ongoing in informals and we will await the outcome of the discussions and informals on paragraph four we join in the request to delete the list of crimes. We do not see Port five B, five bis, which has been proposed by the distinguished delegation of Russia to this plenary, we think that there has been ample discussion indeed, we've been discussing this for two years and further, retracting these discussions for fresh discussions and to us that to discuss our protocol is not necessary. We'd like to thank the chair for the proposal. And as we said at the beginning, we stand ready for the adoption of this with these proposals that we've made. Thank you. Merci. Thank you. Merci. Madame la president,
Switzerland. Thank you very much. Switzerland approves the proposed text of the resolution. And like others, we wanted to focus on new types of crimes. So in terms of the list of offenses, and pap four, we support the use of the proposal made by the United States to stop after the word crime. We do not support Iran's proposal. As regards five this we think it would pre judge the discussion currently underway in informal format, so we do not support its inclusion. Thank you.
Merci beaucoup.
Thank you very much, Australia, followed by the Russian Federation.
Thank you Madam Chair for allowing me to take the floor again. I would like to add Australia to the list of states who support the title is reference to countering cybercrime. Further, while we understand that PP three was taken from similar preambular Paragraph language in its own talk and unpack Australia would like to propose an alternative paragraph two PP three, which we think better reflects the aims and purposes of this convention. This is verbatim and upgrade language from the two previous resolutions which established this ah see and the need for this convention, PP one of resolution 74, slash 247 and PP one of resolution 75 slash 282. PP three would then read, noting that information and communications technologies are having enormous potential for the development of states create new opportunities for perpetrators and may contribute to a risk in the levels and complexity of crime. Finally, in relation to PP four, we would also like to propose an alternative opening term, instead of strongly convinced we think the paragraph should open with the term welcoming. The paragraph would then read welcoming square brackets the name of the Convention, which will constitute an effective tool and so on.
Merci beaucoup, thank
you, the Russian Federation. Thank you very much, Madam Chair. The Russian delegation would like to resolutely support Iran Iran suggestion on three bis the Russian Federation as opposed to unilateral, coercive measures, sanctions against countries that circumvent international organizations include sanctions against our country, we also support Iran's reference to access to technologies.
And China's suggestion that we keep the list of offenses and the preamble apart as well as Yemen's suggestion to you. In terms of suppression, thank you. Thank you very much, South Africa.
Thank you, Madam Chair and good morning to all colleagues in principles that Africa does support the resolution as originally drafted. Just briefly and paragraph five bears, we do see merit to the addition of this paragraph. So please do add our names and support. We are also the view that we should allow the discussions within the scope and formals to continue in order to iron out the modalities in this regard. With regards to the title, we will allow for the use of term and foremost to conclude before we make a pronouncement. Thank you Madam Chair.
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Thank you. Israel followed by United Kingdom.
Thank you Madame Chair. It relating to the name of The convention and as a part of the spirit of the convention, we support the USA calling the convention proposal. Countering cybercrime conferring cybercrime. Thank you
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Good morning Madam Chair, we would have been mostly happy to go along, I think with the resolution as drafted by yourself. But given there are a few new proposals on the table, I will react to these. So on the name of the convention, we believe that countering cybercrime would more succinctly capture what we are doing through this convention, and we would support that proposal on the new PP proposed by Iran, the UK cannot support this. We don't think it's necessary to get into this issue within this adopting resolution on the list of crimes in PP four, again, I think we would support the proposal to delete this list and stop where the United States had suggested we think this would still succinctly capture the point that you're trying to make in this in this paragraph and then going down to OP five because we are not in a position to support this suggestion by Russia and so we'll call for deletion of this we think this has obviously now wrapped up in the scope discussions that are going on in the informals and so we cannot go along with the suggestion to insert this into this resolution at this point. I think you can also add the UK is name in Opie six were Albania Yes. Thank you very much.
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Thank you Madam Chair. And good morning to everyone. With regard to the title of the convention, the Sultanate of Oman supports the title countering cybercrime. We agree with the proposal made by Yemen in terms of adding combat before suppression. Also the proposal to keep the list of offenses stronger than Mexico, please.
Thank you chair. We support the text as drafted by you, except for the list of crimes in paragraph four. We support the USS proposal to delete this list. And as for the title, we also support the name proposed by the US. Thank you.
Thank you, Mexico and Namibia.
Thank you very much, Madam Chair. My delegation accepts the draft in general terms as proposed. We would like to join the list of those that recommend the deletion in PP four of the list of crimes. And we'd like to reiterate an appeal to delegations that we shouldn't waste valuable time in this last session on negotiating this document, which should be something that is simple to adopt and concise. Thank you.
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Thank you, Madam Chair. She, as a lot of other delegations have said that the title is also being considered parallel. But as we have started this practice now and our names are being reflected, please add Namibia's name, in support of country in the use of information and communication technologies instead of cybercrime. And then on the paragraph by Iran on UCM, can they also reflect Namibia's support in that regard? We are also in support of the proposal by the Russian Federation on the Additional Protocol, chair. And then on the paragraph on the list of crimes Namibia is quite happy with the proposal as it was drafted by the chair. Thank you, Madam Chair.
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Thank you, mom. Regarding the name of the convention, the more or less you would like to support the title. So this by the United States, thank you very much.
Thank you very much. New Zealand followed by Nicaragua.
Thank you chair. Like others, we had been willing to largely go along with the original text as drafted by yourself. And like Egypt, we hadn't expected to be doing a country listing exercise at this point. As others have noted, there are still a number of issues outstanding in the informals, which we think will affect this resolution. We had hoped to keep the text as clean as possible until those issues are resolved. Nevertheless, since we are going forward with listing, we will do the same weekend support the US proposal for the title. We would support the proposal of the US to remove the list of crimes and the final PP. We can support the proposals made by Australia in both places. If you're everywhere else in the texts, we would support retaining the original so we are opposed to those proposals made by Iran, Russia and Yemen. Thank you, Chair.
Thank you, Nicaragua, followed by Sudan.
Thank you, Madam Chair for giving me the floor. Once again. In paragraph four. We support Iran's proposal and the retention of the paragraph suggested by China. Thank you.
Thank you very much Sudan than the Central African Republic.
Thank you, Madam Chairperson. We thank you for your efforts to reach consensus on the draft resolution. With regards to the title, we agree with the title. Five fighting the use of ICT or countering the use of ICT for criminal purposes. We look forward to the results of the informal consultations this month. We are open to Yemen's proposal about read drafting the name of the convention. Thank you, Madam President. We are for the proposal of Russian the Russian Federation on five BIS and we support Iran on paragraph three based on unilateral sanctions. Thank you.
thank you the Central African Republic followed by Panama.
Well, thank you, Madam Chair. The delegation of the CAR approves as a whole the draft resolution proposed by the chair. On the name of the convention, we support the proposal made by the Russian Federation. Finally, the allegation of the car is favorable to the chairs text on paragraph four for the UN od see.
Thank you very much Panama.
Yes, on the title of the convention, we believe it would be more appropriate to include combating cybercrime, as has been stated by the United States and other countries. Merci beaucoup, thank you very much. Malawi, followed by Cote d'Ivoire.
Thank you Chair for giving Malawi the fro. We would like to comment on the debate regarding the name of the convention. This delegation supports the use of the term cyber crime in the in the name of the convention, and as a compromise. And since this word is a technical word, we propose that cyber crime be defined Under Article Two of the convention in the manner that will take into account the use of ICT for criminal purposes, we further support Iran on unilateral sanctions. Thank you, Chair.
you very much. Cote d'Ivoire, please.
Thank you, Madam Chair. Thank you for your efforts to garner a very consensus based text. The Republic of Cote d'Ivoire would generally speaking like to say that it supports the draft resolution as adopted by the chair on the name of the convention, we would like to express our initial position that which is that we support including the word cybercrime on the scope of the convention. We await the ongoing informal discussions on this matter. Finally we are in favor of deleting the list of offenses. Thank you.
Thank you very much, Syria and China.
Shokran Thank you, Madam Chairperson. We have been negotiating for two years to reach a convention, a comprehensive convention, to counter the use of ICT for criminal purposes. We have stressed time and again, the need for the convention to include serious cyber crimes and not just traditional crimes. Therefore, we support the proposed Russian amendments including the Additional Protocol. And we support the amendments proposed by Iran, especially regarding the unilateral coercive sanctions. No one can see the genuine negative impact of these crimes other than those who were targeted. We have been targeted for years. And those who are suffering the most are the Syrian people. One of the main impacts of these unilateral course of sanctions, is fighting crimes. This is why we support the proposals suggested by Iran Thank you,
Now to China, we'll have Ecuador Tunisia, Lebanon, Iraq, Angola, here Abbas Jamaica, Oman, Pakistan, Norway, Brazil, Uganda, Paraguay, Democratic Republic of Korea, Papua New Guinea, and Congo. The Democratic Republic.
Thank you, Madam Chair, sorry for asking to take the floor. Again. As the Egyptian delegate mentioned, we don't want this negotiation process to be a process to add to the list to add to the list. This will only mean that we will keep repeating our positions. But if that has to be the case, we support Russia Federation's a proposal on LP five bis although this is still in the informal consultation as a package deal, it has to be reflected in this agreement. Regarding Australia's amendment we think that we still need to show our confidence to the validity and the effective effectiveness of the convention. So this is consistent with the drafting of the convention. So, we are in favor of retaining the original text, which says strongly urging or strongly convinced. Thank you, Madam Chair.
Thank you, China, Ecuador than Tunisia.
Thank you Madam Chair. My delegation is ready to accept the original tax proposed by the chair. However, in light of the proposals that have been made this morning, we would like to express our view on a few of those. We support what has been proposed by the Australian delegation on paragraph three out. On paragraph four, we believe it's not necessary to detail the crimes and we therefore support the deletion of this part. On paragraph five, we do not support the Russian proposal. We don't think it's necessary to speed up the work to negotiate protocols. Rather, we think it's important for states to have enough time to ratify the main instrument which would be the convention. Thank you.
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Thank you, Madam Chair. My delegation is in favor of maintaining the draft resolution as proposed by the Secretariat, because this is both a technical text and also picks up on consensus based passages in the UNG CAC and undock and TOC conventions. On the title we we should be focusing on countering cybercrime. However, we await the results of informal discussions on terminology here. Thank you.
Thank you very much Tunisia, Lebanon, then Iraq.
Thank you, Madam Chair of the convention, we support the US proposal on countering cybercrime. We cannot support a five base so we support its deletion. And regarding the listing, we also support the deletion. Thank you.
thank you, Iraq, followed by Angola.
Thank you, Madame Chair, regarding the name of the convention, or I could like to suggest to propose the third name, hoping that this proposal may contribute to reach the needed consensus. And we are flexible about our proposal. The proposal is countering the cyber and information technologies crimes period. As for the US for the protocol proposed by Russian Federation, Iraq would like to highly support this proposal. Thank you, Madam Chair.
thank you, Angola.
In general, Angola supports the draft resolution proposal by you Madam Chair. With regards to the name of the convention, we have listened to the proposal made by our colleague from United States and we will agree on that. But we also agree with the proposal made by our colleagues from Russia. Therefore, we are proposing an alternative title of the convention as follows countering cybercrime and other forms of use of ICT for criminal purposes. And thank you Madam Chair.
Thank you very much. Thank you for your suggestion. I invite all delegations to think about it. Kira bass then Jamaica.
Good morning, Madam Chair. And thank you for giving us giving caregivers the floor to speak on some of the elements of these discussions this morning. As per the title, get the best of also have domestic law which have been enacted since 2021. And titled cybercrime, so cybercrime we are also supporting the The proposal for the title of cybercrime and for pp for since this especially the scope of crimes are being still discuss, we do not support and we support the deletion of the of the list and for five PIs we think it is premature at this juncture to extend the mandate but also set out protocols that need further discussions as the being deliberated by distinguished delegates. Prior to, to, to me, so with that, thank you again, Madam Chair. Merci beaucoup.
Thank you very much, Jamaica, then a man.
Thank you Madam Chair. At the outset, I wish to express that CARICOM is generally supportive of the draft resolution as you have presented it, we recognize that there are several elements throughout the document that are still under consideration and in the context of informal consultations, including the title of the convention, and Opie's three and four, which catacomb is actively engaged in. And so we will we will retain, or efforts to, to have our positions known in those in those rooms in those meetings. With respect to new proposals we're seeing for the very first time today CARICOM reserves, its right to revert to the ad hoc committee on its positions. With respect however, to Opie six. CARICOM would wish to ensure consistency with the convention as we are currently drafting it. And therefore, we would wish to have reflected before technological developments, the inclusion of the words legal Commonwealth policy and technological developments. Thank you and with respect to eight bis. CARICOM is considering the reporting aspects of this, the implementation of this resolution and the draft convention, and to ensure consistency again Madam Chair, with the resolutions adopting on top and Uncock. CARICOM would propose that the words political conference be replaced with high level political signing conference. In addition, we would see value in not only having a comprehensive report on the conference, but a report on the activities being undertaken to promote the entry into force. And as such, we would propose the inclusion of the words after country in brackets and to report on the activities undertaken to promote the rapid entry into force. also noting the proposal for this to be done by the 79 session CARICOM appreciates that the 79 session would begin, effectively, September 2024, which is just a few months away. As a matter to just allow for sufficient time to produce a more substantive report, Madam Chair, CARICOM would propose that this these reports be for the submission to the General Assembly at its 80th session. And before proposing our final amendment to this particular paragraph, we would request guidance from the Secretariat to determine whether these reports gonna be considered on the agenda item entitled, countering the use of information and communications technologies for criminal purposes. Thank you.
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Thank you, Madam Chairperson, for giving me the floor again, just for a correction. With regards to the name to the title. We support the US proposal. We want to correct that. We will seriously consider the two proposals by Iraq and Angola. Thank you.
thank you, Norway and Brazil.
Thank you, Madam Chair. We were also quite happy with the way the this was drafted by you. But since then, there have been a number of proposal I would just like to have some comments on the name of the convention. We know about this there are discussions going on in other fora about since everybody now seems to be also presenting their view on this now we would like to support the US proposal. We would like to delete the list of criminal offenses MPP for we would like to consider further the proposals by Australia and CARICOM. But otherwise we oppose all other proposals. Thank you.
Thank you very much, Brazil.
Thank you very much, Madam Chair. Thank you for presenting the text of this draft resolution. Brazil is a supportive of the text. In general, we are also engaging actively on the many informal discussions that we're currently undergoing the relate to many of the aspects that the proposals which were just made this morning are about so we are considering those, but we do urge delegates since at the end of the day, a decision on these paragraphs depends on the result of negotiations that are currently ongoing, we would urge our delegations to continue their engagement on that. And so, for now, we're flexible on many of these proposals pending the agreements that we do reach on these negotiations. However, we would like to extend our support to the CARICOM proposals may just now they're mostly procedural, and I think bring the text more in line with previous resolutions on treaty adoptions, thank you very much.
Thank you very much. Uganda and Paraguay.
Thank you, Chair, Uganda, I would like to add her voice to the title of the convention, and finds it important to support countering the use of information and communication technologies for purposes of for criminal purposes, because that's in line with what negotiations have been standing for from the initiation or negotiations. Thank you.
thank you very much, Paraguay.
Thank you for giving me the floor once again. Generally speaking, Madam Chair, we support as a whole what has been put forward by the chair. But now bearing in mind that some delegations are making new proposals. In the last week after two years of these discussions trying to reach consensus, we are in favor of delete deleting the list of crimes in the fourth paragraph. Thank you.
Thank you. Democratic Republic of Korea.
Thank you, Madam Chair. We always appreciate your constructive effort to achieve consensus in our June it was a comprehensive nature of the convention. And we consider the Russian proposal has some merit in terms of the framework of the Google resolution. So we might oleation would like to add it to voice to supporting the proposal made by the delegation of the Russian Federation. In addition, we'd like to echo our support to the OP six proposed by the delegation of the Islamic Republic of Iran. Thank you, Madam Chair.
Thank you very much. Papua New Guinea. Please.
Madam Chair, my delegation would like to commend you for your leadership and for the manner in which you are leading this process. Let me also thank you for having to provide to us at the start of this meeting. Clarity on the text of the draft resolution before us that was very useful for our understanding. My delegation like others would prefer that, given the limited time we have, it would be more useful to focus on the convention in substance rather than on a procedural and technical matter on the draft resolution that is now beginning to expand and we do not have time to look at an expanded resolution on the title For my delegation, we note the GA resolution 74 to four, seven, and 75 to a two. And having had the room, my delegation was just to remind everyone in this room of the importance to bear in mind, those outside this room, who may not be able to understand what a title may carry. So I think for clarity, the longer term that you had in your tax is one for us, that is more understandable. And for Papua New Guinea, we would be inclined to support that proposal. On the preambular, paragraph three, we do welcome and support Australia's proposal on the preamble, paragraph four, just very briefly, we are not supportive of it. And on the five pace, as this is an ongoing discussions that are unfolding, it would be unwise for us to preclude at this stage, I used to that's very much under negotiations. And on the proposal on UCM. We have our reservations for it because this will only prolong our negotiations if we have to go into this political dilemma. Thank you very much, Madam Chair.
Thank you very much. DRC, please,
We;ve been working for several months, and we've already approved several terms. That's why we support the text as you proposed. And that's also why we congratulate you for your efforts up to now. On the title Madam Chair, we continue to think the same way countering countering the use of information communication technology for criminal purposes wouldn't be ideal. However, we are eagerly awaiting the conclusions of informals on this. Thank you.
Kenya than the Dominican Republic.
Thank you, Madam Chair. My delegation in support of the name of the convention, we support the proposal by the United States in terms of PP 4 my delegation acknowledges that it is subject in terms of the list of crimes, it is subject to the informals. So we reserve our right to comment. And also in respect to PP five on the extension of the mandate of the ad hoc committee, we reserve our right to comment subject to the informants that are ongoing in respect to the rest of the proposals made on the on the Committee this morning. My delegation is reflecting on them and they will get back to the committee. Thank you.
Thank you. Dominican Republic.
thank you very much, Madam Chair. The Dominican Republic supports the proposal made by the United States to maintain the title as countering cybercrime because it simplifies the understanding of the title. And it's also the terminology that's already been adopted by our country and other states. We're not in a position to support the text proposed by Iran on unilateral sanctions, so we suggest deleting this. On paragraph four, we support the deletion of the list of crimes. In five bears, the Dominican Republic does not support the inclusion of this text, for the reasons already explained by other states. In paragraph six, we would like to put Dominican Republic's name in next to the European Union. Generally speaking, we support the adoption of the original proposal. Thank you.
Thank you, Argentina.
Thank you very much, Madam Chair. We think that the original proposal is a correct balance of the positions put forward over the last six sessions. For this reason, my delegation believes that we should avoid making drafting suggestions that would change the nature of the text that you propose. Madam Chair, as was expressed by the Uruguayan delegation, we think that many of the suggestions put forward today by the distinguished allegations here present are closely linked to the ongoing discussions in informal negotiations. For this reason, my delegation would like to reserve its preference for the options posed here until we reach a consensus and informal Thank you.
thank you. Rhonda.
Thank you Madam Chair. Rhonda support the text which was proposed by you in that regard, we do not support any other new proposals for the title, Rhonda support the title to be the countering the cyber crime. Thank you Madam Chair.
Malaysia.
Thank you Madam Chair. Malaysia prefers the origin of draft text of the General Assembly Resolution proposed by you Madam Chair. On the name of the convention, Malaysia can support us proposal on countering cybercrime. In PPE for Malaysia would like to delete the list of offenses. And Malaysia cannot support the inclusion of paragraph five base. Thank you, Madam Chair.
One, Arturo.
Thank you, Madam, for giving us another opportunity. Our intervention will be very brief. If we can refer to PP for Madam Chair. The list in red in includes Vanuatu as one of the countries that supported the retention of the list. Madam Chair. Madam Chair, we deliberately did not say anything during our earlier intervention, because we referred to our reserve opposition until the resolution of this issue, and they inform us and we would be pleased to have one word whose name deleted from that list. Thank you, Madam Chair.
Thank you, Lichtenstein.
Thank you so much, Madam Chair. I want to thank you, first of all, for the proposal, and I wish to state that Liechtenstein supports this proposal in general as it was drafted. We however, since this discussion evolved, want to quickly react to some of the new proposals primarily on the title. And it should come to no surprise that we support the terminology countering cybercrime, since we have throughout this process, advocated for the term cybercrime, since it's a single term, and we see therefore it's more useful, and it is also already used by a large number of states. To quickly to react on to other proposals, we would like to delete the list of crimes in impede before and we cannot agree to the addition of Opie five this and would like to call for its deletion as well. Thank you so much.
Thank you, Pakistan.
Thank you, Madam Chair. Regarding the title of the convention, we support the Russian proposal, countering the use of information and communication technologies for criminal purposes, in line with the relevant GA resolutions. In PP three. At the end after the words rule of law, we propose to add while fully respecting the principle of sovereignty and territorial integrity of state parties. In PP four, Madam Chair, we are disappointed to see that prohibition of incitement to violence has not been included in the list of crimes. We support the retention of the list of crimes and also called for the inclusion of incitement to violence in the list, as has already been proposed by Iran. In op three Sorry, in op five base, we support the Russian proposal regarding future protocol of the convention. And in op six, we support the proposal made by Iran. Thank you, Madam Chair. MIT.
Thank you Zimbabwe.
Thank you, Madam Chair for giving Zimbabwe the opportunity. And also, we would like to join the rest of the other member states who have been congratulating you for the efforts you made to come up with a balanced text insofar as the resolution is concerned. On the name of the convention, Madam Chair, we would like to stick to our resolution in terms of the name of the convention, and therefore would like to support the Russian proposal to include the name is countering the use of information and communication technologies for criminal purposes. Madam Chair, we would not want to shut the door to a future protocol in relation to this convention. And therefore, we support the proposal to consider a protocol to clarify or add on to the provisions that we would have agreed on in terms of the main convention. And Madam Chair, we also support the listing of crimes is you had proposed a with the additions that have been proposed by Iran. Thank you for the opportunity in terms of the other issues that are still under discussion in the informants, we reserve our right to Zimbabwe to comment at a later stage. Thank you.
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Thank you, Madam Chair. Good morning, everyone. We supported tests of the resolution as presented relates to the name of the convention reserve declaration later, considering that we have a new proposal that could be important to reach a consensus. We support the proposal of CARICOM on para six towards legal and policy. It's also important to consider consider in paragraph seven that it talks about, you know the sea. But article 58 has been changed in relation to the Secretary saying that we do not support any water changes for the addictions or deletions.
Thank you. Saudi Arabia.
Thank you, Madam Chairperson. We know full well that under your leadership, we'll reach good results. Turning to the title of the convention, we support the idea of countering cyber crimes. Thank you very much.
Thank you, Vietnam.
Thank you, Madam Chair. Oh, delegation like to register our support for the retentions of the region not tax in PP five. We believe that the list of crimes mentioned in PP fi was sent a clear signal on the intended objective of the of the future conventions, but will also like to express our support for the retention of the Russian proposal in five days. We understand that this is still subject to a final package deal, where separate proposed protocols on high speed or incitement to violence will be considered. Therefore a separate set of expertise is needed to negotiate such frontier protocols. And also regarding at LP seven, we hope or like to register our support for retention that were original language with reference to UN ODC. Thank you, Madam Chair.
Thank you, Columbia.
Thank you, Madam Chair. For all of your efforts to bring us closer to solutions. Colombia can live with the language of this resolution as you proposed it. That's the original version, particularly because it was technical, short language that didn't open discussions on substantive matters that we're discussing another comp Tax. However, we're seeing that some delegations are also taking the floor here to take aside as it were. So we'd like to also express our position. On the name of the convention, we like to join the list of states that support referring to cybercrime. We think that this is a catchier form of title. On P p three, we'd like to keep the language in the original version in p p three OLT. We have to look at this because we haven't yet had time to look at it closely. Because the proposal has been made here in the room on through PP three beers. We think that this is a discussion that we're having in other contexts, and we shouldn't be bringing to this resolution. On PP four, we would like to go on the record to say that we do not agree with broadening the list referred to in this paragraph on operative paragraph three. We believe that indeed, we should be referring to Member States not only to states as suggested or that suggested by Morocco, in op five base we also believe that we shouldn't be referring yet to this point, particularly because we haven't substantively discussed it in in formals. Yet. On the CARICOM proposal on Opie six, we have to look at that closely. We haven't yet had the opportunity to do that. And on O P eight bears, we would also like to look at that and to come back to it as soon as possible. Thank you.
Thank you. Columbia was the last speaker on the list. RC Nigeria.
Good morning, Madam Chair. Thank you very much for giving us the floor. Madam Chair, we are my delegation is willing to take the original formulation by Madam Chair. But in the light of some of the edits that have come up, we once again they made it necessary to reiterate our support for the use of the term countering cybercrime. We would also like to state that with respect to the addictions particularly touching on the use of interact unilateral, coercive measures, we think this is something that has no place in this discussion. It is diversity and it will prevent us from making making progress. And therefore we will support its deletion. Some of the other technical edits that are aimed at possibly improving bringing clarity we will study them a little bit more and we will pronounce upon them as we go along. Thank you very much Madam Chair.
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Thank you, Madam Chair. Our delegation from Libya wish to be the names buy into corruption not into corruption into cyber crimes for the first name. Thank you very much.
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Thank you, Madam Chair. My delegation understands that a number of issues remain and informals and therefore, our initial remarks would be to support your text as currently drafted but in light of the proposals made. We may also So pronouns ourselves but briefly on the use of name we can support the US on preferring the use of the term cybercrime. on or before we can support the Russian Federation on the listing of crimes and on the five B's in relation to additional protocols, we can also support the the text is currently drafted with the possibility of having additional protocols. Thank you Madam Chair.
Thank you very much, Thailand.
Madam Chair for the title of the draft convention, Thailand supports the use of the term countering cybercrime and it is a common term that has long been widely used and understood by the general public. We are of the view that states can engage in a discussion on the use of terms and work on the definition of the word cybercrime. so as to ensure that the definition of such word is wide enough to cover the means or devices used for carrying out offensive that we wish to be included in the draft convention. Thank you.
Thank you, Laos.
Thank you, Madame chairs. My delegation commend your efforts to find a neutral and balanced term are to be the aim to reach the consensus of the draft convention regard to the title of the convention multilocation wish to support the original term that you have proposed and regard to the Additional Protocol, we support the five B's proposed by the Russia sin we note that there are many paragraphs that we haven't reached the consensus now. Thank you.
Thank you Russian Federation.
Thank you, Madam Chair. The Russian Federation supports Pakistan's suggestion regarding incitement to violence in the preamble and also Iran on dissemination of disinformation. Thank you.
Thank you. There are no further speakers on my list on behalf of member states. Now, to sum up the situation. First, I invite you to make sure that your positions are correctly reflected on the screen and the draft resolution. And I invite the Secretariat to disseminate the draft as amended. So, you can verify that your possession is correctly reflected. Next, I suggest that you review as seriously as possible all of the proposed amendments and see if you can put your country on one or the other side while there are alternative proposals. I took notes of the suggestion regarding certain parts of the text, there are already a lot of announcements, particularly at risk discussion, a lively discussion is taking place right now in the informal context on the part that is subject to many comments. So I hope that we can reach agreement in the informal way we have a little time left. And we haven't had an opportunity to listen to stakeholders. With your permission. I will invite representative of civil society, private organizations, academia and other partners to speak at this point, not on the resolution, but on other issues. So, that are still up for discussion. So please express your points of view at this stage in our negotiations. I have a list Electronic Frontier Foundation access now sociation la Bharara at the National Chamber of Commerce, cybersecurity tech ako Microsoft DB connect Java Paco whose work may remind you that you have three minutes each thank you I'm afraid that air conditioning is having an impact Electronic Frontier Foundation Electronic Frontier Foundation you have the floor Electronic Frontier Foundation raise your hand so that the sound engineers can see you and turn on your microphone. access now. so we go to associates associates associate a liberal array
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Thank you. Thank you, Madam Chair. A heartfelt thank you for all the delegates who have been working tirelessly on the revised text. My name is blood Bauer representing Lee Bharara an organization working for over a decade with victims and survivors of GBV specifically victims of trafficking online sexual exploitation and child sexual abuse. One voice that is significantly underrepresented at this negotiations is that victims and survivors of the different crimes discussed, especially under Articles 13 and 15. The long debated articles I should say. We are working in 2024 on a framework that has been described over and over again as the floor to the bare minimum when it comes to safeguards. Allow me to revisit some points made during the week prevention has been mentioned repeatedly. And we agreed that it does make more sense economically and to avoid retirement retraumatization. To achieve that ensuring that services for victims are at a minimum gender and age appropriate. Ideally also trauma informed, holistic and comprehensive is critically important. prevention and protection go hand in hand. Distinguished Delegates, several mentions were made of victims of cybercrime. This day Distinguished Delegates, the victims covered under Article 13 through 15 are actually victims of sexual violence victims of GBV and or victims of human trafficking and exploitation. We are also very concerned about the lack of safeguards referring to adult victims. Specifically, by the suggestion of putting the burden of proving victimhood on those who have faced enormous and significant trauma, the classification of victimization grant someone access to the rights and protections, therefore, the thresholds this convention establishes have to be very well thought out. Extensive debates were also on the reference to in cooperation with relevant stakeholders. A kind reminder that in a lot of countries services for the aforementioned victims are almost exclusively provided by the third sector, be it NGOs, civil society organizations, or volunteer organizations. Lastly, we welcome provisions that target the financing and profiting from sexual abuse material. However, we express the concern regarding vagueness or a broad scope, as it could allow even for the targeting of mandatory reporters or service providers. A more narrow focus is needed for any such provision to be effective, distinguished delegates, we have failed victims of GBV of sexual violence and have tracked trafficking in human beings for too long. Please don't allow for that to happen again. As you Navigating some very sensitive topics that impact us all. Thank you.
Thank you very much privacy International.
Thank you Madam Chair for giving me the floor. Privacy international welcome the opportunity to intervene at this session. While we recognize the cyber crimes can pose a threat to the enjoyment of human rights, my organization has long documented that human rights violations committed under the guise of combating cybercrime. We have also consistently recommend that the UN cyber crime treaty should be narrow in scope, and should contain robust safeguards to mitigate the risk of these violations. Regrettably, the latest draft fails to address many of our significant concerns. I would like to address three of these concerns. Firstly, the scope of application of investigative powers is very broad. Indeed, there is a disconnect between the chapter on criminalization and the scope of procedural measures. Under the current tax the powers afforded to law enforcement agencies apply to the investigation of criminal offences committed by means of a computer system, as well as the collection of evidence in electronic form of any criminal offence. Consequently, the scope of application of Article four appears to be expanded well beyond cyber dependent crimes. Arguably, it will make the treaty one of the most far reaching in criminal matters. These over broad scope gives rise to the danger that the convention will be used to justify the prosecution of the legitimate exercise of human rights. Secondly, we believe that the draft tax is unbalanced. It gives a sweeping privacy and basic powers to law enforcement agencies without robust human rights, limitation and safeguards. Article 2930, for example, provide for real time collection of traffic data interception of content data. These are extremely intrusive measures that required a set of stringent limitation and safeguards. Unfortunately, article 24 does not include some key safeguards, well established an international human rights law, such as such as the principles of legality and necessity, prior independent authorization of surveillance measures, farther relieves too much discretion of States Parties in the scope of application of the Human Rights safeguards. Third, read the chapter of international cooperation is also very broad in scope of application. And we know detail human rights safeguards. For example, in relation to sharing of personal data, the wording of article 36 fails to provide effective protection, privacy International Joint over 100 civil society organizations and experts to recommend that the convention should only move forward if it puts us at a specific goal of combating cybercrime. The present draft falls far short of this goal and privacy international recommends to comprehensively revising.
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Honorable delegations representing Atticus Foundation, we appreciate the opportunity to intervene in the plenary today. Throughout this first week, civil society has been closely following the negotiations and has used opportunities to engage with delegates at various occasions. Still, and despite our exchanges, I would like to once again highlight our particular concerns about the latest draft of the convention, and narrow scope of the whole convention to cyber dependent crimes specifically defined and included in this text as necessary. Any broader application gives rise to the danger that the convention will be used to criminalize legitimate online expression, which is likely to create discriminatory impacts and deepen gender inequality. To include a language or specific provisions against excessive criminalization to ensure that security researchers, whistleblowers, journalists and human rights defenders are not prosecuted for the legitimate activities, and that other public interest activities are protected. To strengthen data protection and international human rights standards throughout the entire convention is required. This means removing references to domestic standards, and including the principles of non discrimination, legality, legitimate purpose, necessity and proportionality, as well as introducing explicit references To safeguards such as prior traditional authorization for, for accessing or sharing data, as well as for conducting cross border investigations, and cooperation in accordance with the rule of law, a right to notification as soon as investigations allow, and the right to effective remedy. The two are connected and one makes no sense without the other. Finally, to mainstream gender across the convention, so as to ensure the convention is not used to undermine people's human rights on the basis of gender. Furthermore, to limit the scope of application of procedural measures and international cooperation to cyber dependent crimes, established in the criminalization chapter of the convention, in order not to undermine trust in secure communications, and infringe on international human rights standards. And finally, Madam Chair, avoiding endorsing any surveillance provisions that can be abused to undermine cybersecurity and encryption, so as not to allow for excessive information sharing for law enforcement cooperation beyond the scope of specific criminal investigations. Madam Chair, the final outcome of the treaty negotiation process should only be deemed accessible if it effectively incorporates strong and meaningful safeguards to protect human rights ensures legal clarity for fairness and due process and fosters international cooperation under the rule of law, I thank you very much.
Thank you very much. International Chamber of Commerce.
Massey, Madam President, Good morning colleagues. I am very pleased to share a few ideas on behalf of the International Chamber of Commerce and our member companies of all sizes and sectors across the globe. We truly appreciate your and this committee's openness to hearing from the private sector. We have been grateful for this dialogue and hope that our feedback and perspectives as per object and input continue to be useful to you as well. When the negotiations were launched two years ago, the private sector saw the potential for the establishment of a unified framework for collaboration among nations to confront the challenges posed by cybercrime synchronized legal approaches and facilitate effective cross border cooperation in combating this global menace. As we have shared in our with an input, we are very worried that the left latest drafts and amendments continue to include deficiencies that could end up jeopardizing cybersecurity, compromising data, privacy, and eroding online rights and freedoms to random meetings. In the past two years, we have listened intently to our fellow stakeholders, colleagues, and to member states and are pleased to find that our priorities aligned with theirs. These include defining the scope of the convention clearly and narrowly enhancing international cooperation to fight cybercrime and criminalizing cyber dependent offenses only, and making human rights protection and safeguards a core commitment of this convention. I do not have the time here to go into detail on all of these. So let me just highlight one major point of concern for international business across regions and industry sectors, and this is access to data held by the private sector. As it currently stands, the Convention does not sufficiently limit access to data to what is necessary and proportionate to law enforcement needs. The convention should include provisions to ensure clarity and predictability in government access, and embrace transparency. Furthermore, real time collection of traffic data and interception of content data are considered a significant invasion of privacy and references to such practices should be removed from the convention. In addition, provisions are needed to ensure that states cannot demand access to data in third states without the third state's explicit consent. Madam Chair, we trust that with your support and leadership, we can still contribute to a convention that cultivates a more predictable business environment, streamlining the complexities associated with cyber incident that traverse national borders. Our aspiration is for the convention to strike a delicate balance, robust cybercrime, prevention, detection and prosecution, coexisting harmoniously with the protection of data privacy and human rights. Thank you Madam Chair.
Thank you very much. cybersecurity, take a call.
Madam Chair, thank you for the opportunity to be heard today, we associate ourselves with the with the statements of ITC and Microsoft, which you're just hearing 170 companies strongly support a convention that helps address cybercrime and reduce attacks on computer systems. Unfortunately, the revised draft the stuff before it and the package presented are not fit for those purposes. First, the treaty would weaken cybersecurity globally by facilitating the compromising of critical security measures and the criminalization of penetration test. testing in cybersecurity research that keeps the digital ecosystem resilient against cyber criminals. Second, the convention would slow down sharing of electronic evidence without a specific narrow scope and clear a dual criminality provisions. Data custodians will be asked to break the law in one state to comply with data requests from another frustrating cooperation. Third is just mentioned, the convention would generate serious conflicts of laws. Just one example is the new italicized language and articles 4244 and 45. That would force service providers to hand over data in secret irrespective of where it is located, and without the knowledge of the state that it is in. This violates the law in many countries, Article four and the UN Charter. Fourth, the text would allow any state party to obtain the personal information of other states citizens without sufficient safeguards and perpetual secrecy, forcing service providers to hand over data with no ability to notify users or object even when those requests are manifestly unlawful. Fifth by leaving it completely in the hands of individual states to define the breadth and type of subject matter that comes under its scope. The convention facilitate human rights violation and put lives at risk. Finally, allowing for secret access to secured systems, extraterritorial exfiltration of data and secret real time surveillance with no transparency safeguards presents grave risks to States national security as well. Abuse of key provisions could result in real time surveillance of an access to the secret data of state officials without the knowledge of the impacted state. We don't support the adoption of the convention or ratification of it unless all six of these issues are meaningfully addressed. And we can't support the compromise package either. It continues to allow states to decide what crimes the convention would cover if even the most incidental use of ICTs was involved, and E evidence for all serious crimes. The limitation to serious crimes is not meaningful for all the reasons previously stated in our submissions. And the link to unspecified other instruments creates more ambiguity. Madam Chair, our concerns are not theoretical. They're based on what is happening right now two firms globally. Regrettably, this negotiation is going in the wrong direction. What we have before us is a bad treaty that has united civil society and industry opposition, in a way I've never seen in decades working in international relations. Thank you. Yes,
thank you very much, Microsoft, please.
Thank you, for the floor. Madam Chair. And thank you for the opportunity to contribute multi stakeholder voices to the UN efforts to elaborate a cyber crime convention. You will recall that during the stakeholder session, the week before last I once again reiterated Microsoft's strong and growing concerns. Having listened carefully to the Dover deliberations last week, and having consulted extensively with member states as well as with other stakeholders, we are even more concerned going into the second week as currently drafted, neither the zero draft now the seventh session draft nor the various compromised proposals adequately addressed the concerns industry and civil society have raised. Each version that we have seen could have profound negative impact on the digital ecosystem, including the severe risk of creating a digital surveillance treaty in the guise of a Cybercrime Convention. Again, nothing of what I say should come as a surprise to anybody. The position of stakeholders, both from industry and civil society has been remarkably aligned on these concerns. As I've said before, in my now 20 plus years of working in multilateral and multi stakeholder negotiations, I've never witnessed industry and civil society to be as aligned in their concerns as I've seen during this process. By and large, we could all swap and read each other's statements, and frankly, that alone should give pause to member states. Looking at the current state of play, Microsoft has disappointed that are key concerns on the various draft texts that we and other industry and civil society entities broadly and continuously shared with member states have not been adequately addressed. And frankly, looking at the trajectory of the draft text that appears that each compromise practice is becoming more problematic. Microsoft urges states to use the remainder of this week to clearly and narrowly define the scope of this treaty, improve safeguards throughout the convention, specifically as it pertains to covert surveillance and strengthen protections for cybercrime researchers. Otherwise this convention could not only gravely harm fundamental rights and create a confusing cooperation landscape for states and providers. But it could allow cybercrime to thrive and make cyberspace considerably less secure. And we could not support its ratification as ever Microsoft associated sales with the substantive concerns expressed by the tech record and the ICC. And I feel that is all I can fit into three minutes Madam Chair. Thank you.
Thank you very much DB connect Be connect. So, then we go to be Veeam Institute on security and cooperation.
Thank you Madame chairs. I want to thank you for organizing these meetings and I want to thank member states for cooperating and also allowing stakeholders to be present. A world that is striving to become digital Connect will need that it is connected with the landscape of each country. Those who desire to close the gaps lack the capacity to effectively implement most of the item being advocated here. It will be important for government and civil society to clearly push for domestic rule of law that align with existing law that guarantee political right and safety of in the area of privacy. Keeping in mind as member states are advancing these conventions. The summit of the features is also drafting language that called for digital compact that will be different from the language of these conventions. Digital cooperation is necessary for countries to protect the safety of individual went online, the data infrastructure should not negate the definition of crime in online space. This convention is still the beginning stage for a long negotiation between the global north and global south wherever the exchange of new technology will need and will continue to be the problem. I urge country that our developer to be open and to share their knowledge and to also make open technology available for countries and stakeholders that are still lacking money is to find it. Thank you.
Thank you very much. I last call for Electronic Frontier Foundation. Access not access now. dB Connect. Access Now you are here. No, DB Connect. No. Okay. She's not. No she's not. Merci beaucoup. Merci beaucoup are too late. Thank you very much. Thank you very much to all partners. dB connect
Yes. Thank you, Madam Chair. Sorry. subgraph knows no boundaries, criminals can orchestrate attacks from anywhere in the world targeting victims across different jurisdictions without international cooperation. Law enforcement agencies are limited in their ability to investigate, collect evidence and apprehend perpetrators operating abroad. So different countries possess unique strengths and expertise in combating cybercrime. Therefore, we're here today, as multi stakeholders. I'm diligently asking member states to understand that sharing knowledge best practices and resources allows for a more comprehensive and effective response joint operations and training programs can enhance the capabilities of law enforcement agencies worldwide. Thank you very much, Madam Chair.
thank you very much to be Connect. Very well, we've come to the end of our work this morning. I'd like to thank you all very much for your contributions. It's not really moving us forward in our work. But it does at least give us a clearer idea of the fact that we do have very divergent views on certain issues. I'd like to invite you to reflect once again on the amendments made to the resolution this morning. I'd also like to invite you to check the Committee's website to see where all of the informals are happening. This afternoon, I will be chairing the informals on a possible general compromise, which might also serve to resolve some matters on the resolution. Without further ado, I'd like to give the floor to the secretary Miss Lloyd day to give you a few more information of details. Thank you.
Thank you, Madam Chair. This area would like to draw the attention of all delegations to the provisional list of participants of the concluding session of the ad hoc committee, which is available on the website of the session. We invite delegations to inform the Secretariat of any necessary changes through the usual email cybercrime. Ah see@unt.org Thank you.
Thank you very much to the secretariat. I wish you been FPT and we'll see you soon in the various informals I'll see you in room 11 This afternoon for the possible compromise. Thank you
