Well, I, I trained it as a naval architect at MIT. The plan was to design the next America's Cup boat didn't work out. When I graduated, it turns out the choice was go to Vietnam or take a deferred jobs. So I went to work for the US Navy, one form or another, worked for three different naval shipyards ended up going back to my department at MIT, the naval architecture, basically worked for the Navy for 10 years, and I saw the Navy system up close and personal it was it was a mess. And the upshot of the whole thing was you had all this paperwork. At the end of the day, the ships were extremely expensive, far, far more expensive than they should be. And in most cases didn't work. I got fed up with that system. And I decided to seek my fortune in the tanker market. And one thing led to another and the next Sorry, no, I was in Korea building very large tankers. What I saw was just blew my mind. Physically, the Korean shipyards didn't look that different from the Navy shipyards, they have the same technology. But they're on different planets. Hey, the Korean productivity was orders of magnitude higher than the Navy productivity. And the ships mostly worked. They were built on schedule. If a ship was delivered a couple of weeks late, that was a disaster, more than a couple of weeks was unthinkable, right? And if a ship didn't perform, yard lost its customer. So it was a new world to me. Then late in life, I got interested in the Gordian knot. And it didn't take very long to figure out that the only way to handle that was was nuclear. But then when I got into nuclear, all of a sudden, I found myself transported back to the Navy system. Right, right. Our problem is we build nuclear reactors from where the Navy build ships, we need to build nuclear reactors the way the Koreans build ships.