Board of Police Commissioners 3/6/2025, part 2: Otter Voice Meeting Notes

Board of Police Commissioners 3/6/2025, part 2

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Speaker 1

07:40

Mr.

Chairman, is the motion going to be to grant the appeal? Is the motion going to be to grant the appeal? Okay? Well, that can be the motion. You can hold it up with him. I just want to make sure

Unknown Speaker

08:00

I know how to I do have An issue though this concern.

Unknown Speaker

08:15

Yes, yeah, all right.

Speaker 2

08:24

Today is March 6, 2025, is 517. Order, please

Speaker 3

08:34

call the roll Commissioner woods, President, Commissioner Smith, President, Commissioner Bernard, present, Commissioner banks, Commissioner Bell, Mr. Burton, present, Commissioner Carter, Commissioner Moore is excused. Commissioner Hernandez here, Commissioner Presley here, Commissioner de Walsh here, in present, Sir,

Unknown Speaker

08:57

there's the board session.

Speaker 2

09:03

We're in open session. The Yes, sir,

Chairperson QuanTez Pressley

09:08

I move that we grant the applicant appeal for candidate Charles honor to move forward in the DPD hiring process.

Speaker 2

09:16

Motion made by Commissioner Presley and second by Commissioner Bernard to grant the appeal. All in our question, are you? Are you ready for the question? Any discussion? Mr. Chairman, yes. We

Speaker 4

09:33

need clarification on certification process.

Unknown Speaker

09:39

I think we have

Speaker 2

09:42

to be careful, because it was a closed door matter, and I think we need some clarification. Okay, the motion any more further discussion through the Chair? Yes, I just

Chairperson QuanTez Pressley

09:53

want to be clear that granting the opportunity to move forward into the hiring process does not mean that the candidate will be hired again. It just provides him the opportunity to move forward in the process.

Speaker 2

10:05

Yep. All right. Any more discussion? There being no further discussion. All in favor. Say, aye. Anyone opposed? Voice, aye,

Speaker 1

10:18

opposed. You're going to vote opposed commissioners. Please say no, no. Thank you, sir, no,

Speaker 2

10:24

okay, all right, I have it. Let us go to the whistle. Pleasure.

Unknown Speaker

10:30

The board motion adopted.

Speaker 2

10:32

Please. Motion is adopted. Congratulations, young man. Have a blessed day.

Chairperson QuanTez Pressley

10:39

Yes, I move that we enter into closed session pursuant to section eight A of the Open Meetings Act MCL 15.268 A, the department's request for the board to consider administrative leave without paper with medical benefits, but police officer Earl Anderson, badge 31 assigned to the fifth precinct. Second

Speaker 2

10:57

motion made by Commissioner Presley, and second by Commissioner and assesion. Any discussion, all in favor, say aye. Aye. Anyone opposed the motion is here.

Unknown Speaker

11:19

Recording

stopped You.

Speaker 2

19:27

Okay, it's March 6, 20. Recording in progress, 528, we are back in open session. Please call the roll

Speaker 3

19:36

Commissioner woods, Commissioner Smith, Commissioner Bernard, Commissioner banks, present Commissioner Bell, Commissioner Burton, present Commissioner Carter, Commissioner Moore is excused. Commissioner Hernandez, present, Commissioner Presley here, Commissioner Dewas present, sir,

Unknown Speaker

20:00

we have qualm, I wish the pleasure of the board.

Chairperson QuanTez Pressley

20:05

Yes, sir, I would accept the department's recommendation to expand officer, police officer, Earl Anderson, badge number 31 with administrative leave, without pay, but with medical benefits. Second motion

Speaker 2

20:19

made by Commissioner Presley to set the DPD recommendation to suspend officer Earl Anniston without pay medical benefits is second by Commissioner Hernandez. Are you ready for the question. All in favor, say, aye. Anyone opposed, the motion is carried. All right, the next new business I will have, I will ask something very pressing command of Paris if you come to the podium, right quick to ask of us as relates to some special orders that's coming up immediately to be addressed. Yes,

Speaker 5

21:12

sir,

yeah, absolutely. As the sports aware I'm working with planning to update our policies as part of our accreditation efforts and our efforts just to get all special orders transformed into policies as soon as possible. Planning has submitted over a dozen policies to the board. Within the last four to six weeks, we're going to be sending a lot more. However, we have a number of special orders that are coming up on expiration on March the 25th this year, we would like the board support in extending those special orders for a period of 60 days, to give us time to complete the process of transitioning them from special orders, which are designed to be temporary in nature, to directives. This will give us time to do the research we need to submit a good directive to the board. It'll also give the Board staff enough time, the time that it needs to communicate with the community and stakeholders to make sure that what we're presenting fits within the community that we're serving. So we could ask that of the board for its support at Endeavor. I would greatly appreciate it,

Speaker 2

22:12

yes, and I'll just say that Commissioner Bernard and Commissioner the Washington policy committee and Policy Manager has been been doing a powerful job in updating these policies, and it's been a heavy lift, because every policy of the Detroit Police Department is being reviewed. We sending them out to the ACLU, excuse me, University of Michigan and number of places.

Speaker 1

22:39

Yes, my apologies for interrupting you. This item is not on the agenda.

Unknown Speaker

22:44

This is new business, though.

Chairperson QuanTez Pressley

22:46

So I also have a clarifying question, so is this different than the motion to adopt the use of force policy directive? It

Speaker 2

22:53

is different. Okay? Yeah, this is different. This is all new business. Because

Speaker 1

22:59

if you look Mr. Chairman, if you would announce that under new business, we are adding the request to extend special

Speaker 2

23:09

nude businesses. We are adding the request to extend special orders for 60 days. For 60 days.

Unknown Speaker

23:17

Thank you, sir.

Unknown Speaker

23:18

Thank you. Ma'am. Yes. Orders set

Speaker 5

23:26

to expire March the 25th all set

Speaker 2

23:30

up orders that do this expire on March 26

Unknown Speaker

23:34

to 25th 25th who's

Chairperson QuanTez Pressley

23:37

here? Yes, again. Do we have a list of what those are? I recognize that there probably are many, but I think it's important to at least are looking at something so nothing.

Speaker 5

23:44

I can't have somebody for planning breakdowns. Well,

Commissioner Bernard

23:48

then we'll have to deal with the next meeting. This did not come up with our policy meeting Tuesday, right in this room. You didn't ask the committee if, in fact, they would endorse the extension. We only agreed on one policy for today's vote, and that was the use of force. So clearly, you know, we were blindsided by this right now, and we can certainly address it at the next committee meeting.

Speaker 2

24:16

This will require immediate action, because we don't, and they have the right special orders will happen, and they will last a year, and so then we don't have time. We want to have that ability to review the policy. We don't want that

Chairperson QuanTez Pressley

24:32

to happen. Can you say that again if we don't approve them today? You said, especially not

Speaker 2

24:36

today, but you know, I think you got a great spirit for at least another week, and so you can have that discussion with he wants

Commissioner Bernard

24:43

a special Policy Committee meeting. I can ask the members to see if we can do that, but but honest at this meeting, the chair

Speaker 6

24:52

yes is, is the department asking just to extend what we already have

Speaker 2

24:58

until we are able to update the policy, able to update the policies. That's what they're asking. Yes, okay, thank you. Yes, a reasonable request is not and it's something that is needed very much, but I'm happy for you guys to discuss it throughout the week, and we can extend this.

Commissioner Bernard

25:15

We can also be prepared to respond to which special

Speaker 1

25:19

anyway, Mr. Chairman, yeah, parliamentarians advice that this matter be referred to the policy committee and that they report back at next

Unknown Speaker

25:34

week's meeting. We're not hold on. Not

Chairperson QuanTez Pressley

25:43

through the Chair, I need to know whether what is the lasting date on the special orders was the absolute deadline.

Speaker 5

25:48

The absolute deadline is March 25 the department could always issue new special orders. However, as the Chairman indicated, what we want is because we're working with the board so closely on transitioning these special orders into directives, we want the board's support so Commissioner Bernard, I'm not trying to blindside the board, just the opposite here. Are making the request out of a conservative transparency so that we're not doing something without the board's support and knowledge. And I have absolutely no issue coming back next week or coming to the policy committee on Tuesday.

Commissioner Bernard

26:20

We will meet Tuesday. We can have a special meeting to address it, and we can answer

Speaker 2

26:26

your question. I'm not referring this to the policy committee, but I'm happy for the policy committee if they can to take it up, and if not, this would be a board action to be able to get this done. So I don't know what the schedule of every wad in that regard,

Commissioner Bernard

26:43

policy meeting

Speaker 7

26:46

is March 18. I'm sorry, the next policy meeting is March 18. I

Speaker 1

26:51

believe it sure indicated that they would have every two weeks. Yeah,

Speaker 2

26:55

and we can have a special meeting. Hopefully we can based upon people. So if we can get that done, I'm happy to just get it addressed. Mr.

Speaker 1

27:04

Chairman, yes, parliamentarian is concerned that this not be left up in the air. Either it needs to be referred to the policy committee with the date certain by which they report back, or you need to be you need to postpone it the next Thursday and ask that additional information be provided. But at this point, I'm not hearing a definitive action plan

Speaker 2

27:28

with a definitive action plan for him to give us a list, and once we get the list, we don't hold

Speaker 1

27:36

on motion to postpone, because now people okay, just leave this either we're not, dude, it would be the motion to postpone to next week.

Unknown Speaker

27:46

Right now we'll be ready to move on it now, because,

Speaker 8

27:51

on behalf of Commissioner subcommittee, which is the policy committee, yeah, I'd like to move, with her permission, of course, that we move, that we move this design item to emergency meeting on the 11th, which will be next week at this At the original time, five o'clock

Chairperson QuanTez Pressley

28:20

meeting scheduled, Budget

Speaker 2

28:22

Committee meeting. Yes, hey, just one point of

Chairperson QuanTez Pressley

28:33

clarity, though, yeah, motion has been made. So you said we haven't done anything. There was a matter that was brought up in new business where no motion was made, right? Confused about why we have to act, whether or not it can just be on the agenda next week, right? Go to whatever information is taken care of on our off

Speaker 1

28:52

time. You have, you have a matter that has been brought up and request was made, what are you going to do with that item now you could just, just, just say we're we're not through discussing it, and it can become unfinished business for next week. That is a third option, Mr. Mr. Commissioner, it would be cleaner if you just postpone it. And the reason I'm the parliamentarian is saying that is that one of the reasons to postpone it is because you want additional information, and that's a valid reason for postponing a matter. However, there's more than

one way to skin a cat, as your grandmother was saying,

Unknown Speaker

29:33

what would

Speaker 1

29:37

be the fastest thing is, is to just move to postpone the next week the problem, and I know you want to leave the problem from a parliamentary point of view, okay, is that if we had bylaws that told us what was the role of a policy committee, then it would be clear that if this was something that came under their purview, then you would have to refer to them, but your bylaws don't talk about what these committees do. So that's why you have some options

Chairperson QuanTez Pressley

30:09

to avoid post point or anything to provide the staff and the chair to be able to figure something out.

Speaker 1

30:14

End up being the same thing, Mr. Commissioner. If you don't deal with it, then it goes on next week's agenda as unfinished,

Chairperson QuanTez Pressley

30:22

we could, he could schedule the policy committee meeting, and then we are made aware that it's been referred to the policy we need to do one or the and I'm saying, I don't think we have the information now to be able to make that statement and lock us into what we have to do next week. And so I'm just saying, if we move on nothing, just because we just received information under new business as a point of receiving information. It allows the chair, the Secretary and the committee chair, to figure out whatever price,

Speaker 1

30:47

nothing. It automatically goes under unfinished business.

Unknown Speaker

30:53

Okay, we do nothing. The What's the pleasure

Chairperson QuanTez Pressley

30:59

of the clarity? Does that include this motion to adopt the use of force director, which apparently the policy committee was aware of. It

Unknown Speaker

31:08

also the asking for a German was

Chairperson QuanTez Pressley

31:13

getting ready to be called. And I'm saying, are we going to handle this matter? Yeah,

Speaker 2

31:19

we want to handle okay, but sure, so that goes to the policy here. Let's resolve that.

Unknown Speaker

31:33

Okay, Mr. Chairman,

Unknown Speaker

31:35

are we still on the

Speaker 2

31:36

new business? I believe so. Yes,

Speaker 4

31:41

I'm circling the memo concerning board secretary. There's a charter mandate, and this by law mandate. I thank our request two weeks from now and have a closed session in reference to that particular item, I just want to hopefully the opportunity to review the concerns of the charter and the by law in terms of, we hire a new secretary, as you all know, and we changed leadership every year, which is unusual for leadership, but we change every year. So I think we need to be consistent in terms of the board secretary, understand her, do it fully, but we have a much we went from a two version staff to several folks now, so it's the whole concern about the dues and responsibility board, then the chief administration officer, day to day of this board. It is not the leadership, it's the board secretary, and let's spell that out. So I would bring forth a motion to have that closed session in the week from now, Mr.

Speaker 1

32:38

Chairman, I would defer to the attorney, but I believe the Open Meetings Act requires that a personnel matter is going to be discussed in closed session. It has to be the request of the employee.

Speaker 2

32:49

That is correct, yes, and we'll make that clear. And I don't know where this come from, but you know, the the we've been doing from great, you know, but the fact that the matter is that that Secretary asked it to this board, and she get instructions from this board, you know, so but we that's that's a new issue, Madam Chair, yes, I think

Speaker 7

33:16

it would be appropriate to send this given that we're all just reading This for the first time and had no prior knowledge of this, it seems appropriate that this would be referred over to the policy or personal training committee,

Speaker 2

33:28

absolutely, and then referred. Thank you. Okay, all right,

Unknown Speaker

33:34

the use of force policy, yeah,

Commissioner Bernard

33:37

oh, I'm sorry, my direction of the policy committee, I move to adopt section three, oh 4.2, use of force policy directive as recommended on by the policy committee on Tuesday, March, 4, 2025, The court motion

Speaker 2

33:57

may require Oh, uh, motion made to work by the direction of the policy committee. Amen. Where's the where my paperwork at? Are you ready for the question? Are you ready for the question? All in favor, say, aye. Anyone opposed, the motion is carried. What is the pleasure of this board by Commissioner banks,

Unknown Speaker

34:37

Lisa Carter? And he just

Speaker 1

34:42

it's not discussion, but you pause in case there would be any one of six things that can be done. Okay, motion to adjourn has been made but not announced. Okay, so the question would be, for the Commissioner burgwyn, what for? What reason does he seek recognition?

Speaker 2

34:58

Seek recognition. I wanted to make a motion at this time share

Speaker 8

35:06

something I raised earlier during today's meeting that I'd like to see some form of you given to the men and women that went out to southwest Detroit, doing the water, the broken water, main rate. It's

Speaker 1

35:22

an item that can be brought up when the motion to adjourn has been made, but not pronounced. It is idle. Needs to make a motion at this time. So

Speaker 8

35:33

I like, I like to move that the board. So the SRT Harbor Master for recent for the work that they've been doing services Detroit helping families evacuate from from their homes into safety. Second,

Unknown Speaker

36:01

Okay, motion made amend for the fire

Commissioner Bernard

36:03

department as well,

Speaker 8

36:05

and the fire department as well. Thank you. Yeah,

Speaker 2

36:09

motion made by Commissioner Burton to give a tribute to the Fourth Precinct and to wherever he being fit,

Speaker 8

36:21

SRP, Harbor Master or precinct Fire Department.

Unknown Speaker

36:27

The fire

Speaker 8

36:29

department also the honorable Carter, state rep for Southwest Detroit, for the work that they're doing,

Speaker 7

36:41

nothing to do with anything. I'll actually ask that we amend the motion for a draft to be submitted for review, because blanket approve random individuals being a part of this. I was booted on the ground there, literally my neighborhood. And if anyone's going to speak to this, it's going to be me. So out of respect for that, I would suggest that we have a draft, not anything else. This isn't for fun and games and show we're not going to provide support to anyone, any individual. It's for a community. And if we have to do it the right way there's any opposition to that, I can't help you.

Unknown Speaker

37:25

My motion

Speaker 8

37:30

is I want to recognize the SRT Harbor Master for precinct, the honorable work by the honorable Tyrone Carter and his wife, Lisa Carter, who's a member of this board, SRT Harbor Master, 4% those members from the department I mentioned Earlier today to recognize the men and women in blue that represents this department. So the motion is to recognize, you know what? I like the minimum, recognize the men and women of this department, men and women in blue of this department. SRT harbor masters. Can

Speaker 2

38:16

you do this? Can you do this? Can you work with the Secretary and get that drafted up and have to get approved by the board meeting? And I don't think you even need a motion for this, brother, if you could just get with the Secretary, whatever.

Unknown Speaker

38:35

Sure. But I still put this on record.

Speaker 2

38:41

You just put it on the record clearly? And we're saying, if you draw this thing up and you get it to us next week, I'm sure that you have the votes to get it done. That's an admirable thing that you're doing. And we appreciate your efforts in this regard, and your passion in this, because Absolutely, there's no doubt that people get a lot of working from the mayor on down the city, Detroit, who's then tons of the resources and as well as the chief police. But the that's what your pleasure is. Can you work with us on this? Thank you. Can you withdraw the motion? And we guarantee

Speaker 1

39:23

to be withdrawn, because it was never stated by the chair. Okay, all right, so

Speaker 2

39:27

the journal is still on the floor, right? And then it was second, and they discussed, we went to discuss it all in favor. Say, aye, anyone opposed? We gotta go actually,

Unknown Speaker

39:41

before you, before you

Chairperson QuanTez Pressley

39:44

turn it all kind of alluded,

Speaker 2

39:44

man, I'm in Twilight Zone right now. I need to eat some food.

Unknown Speaker

39:49

Recording stopped.

Speaker 2

39:57

That's working. My question.

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