So the first thing that came to mind, and by the way, I want to thank the leaders for putting this together. It's really been excellent. The first thing that came to my mind is that, you know, empathy Connect. Empathic connection doesn't happen all at once. It's not like you just turn it on, like you flick the light switch and everything goes on. It's more like there's a dimmer switch. It's more like you are. You are. The water's a little cold, like it is in Lake Michigan right now, where I live, and you start to wait out, and as you go a little further, it's it takes a while for your body to warm up to it. And I think that, I think that, you know, if, if we want to build empathy with, let's say strangers, in this case, we don't know each other. I don't know anybody I need. I have a sense of, okay, I want to proceed gradually and make sure that it's safe, so I'm testing the waters. Okay.