Well, well, you know, I had Oh, I've always been pretty stubborn. And so when I was in my 20s, for example, I just, you know, I just sat through, I mean, really excruciating pain, you know, especially in the legs, it was just, it was bad, man, it really was. And then, you know, on top of that, of course, your mind just starts reeling as you're trying to escape all this, and it's a real horror show. So shades can be, especially when you're a newcomer, it can be really, really hard. But certainly one of the things I discovered, discovered, I mean, it's not this is not new to people who been around the practice for a while, certainly, make sure you're physically comfortable, okay? And don't do things to yourself, that add to the difficulty, the physical difficulty of doing, I'm not a very flexible person, okay, sitting cross legged for me, every time I sat cross legged, every time for decades, my leg fell asleep. You know, after a while, this I'm not particularly fast, sometimes after a while, it occurred to me don't do that bill. Okay. Don't do that. Do something different, okay. And I started sitting zazen. And guess what, well, all of a sudden, that pain in my legs went away. And my practice dropped down to the deeper level as a result of that. It was it was a big, it was a big help to just change my posture, just do something different. And I encourage anybody who's starting off, just you know, find what works for you, who knows, maybe someday you'll be sitting cross legged, but just start off like that. Quarter lotus or something like that, on zafu, and nothing else. That's setting a very high bar, okay, initially, and it's probably experimental, but, you know, try the things that to find out what works for you. You know, I think it's, I think it's very, very helpful to do something like that. And then, and then, of course, what really happens there then is your mind starts to quiet down too. And that's the big benefit of it. Now, suddenly, you haven't got the screaming body to deal with, you know, now you can start to really focus MIBs a lot of other stuff to deal with, of course, but at least you don't have that. At least you don't have that. Thank you. Thank you, Ben.