It wasn't an active choice. I was at the University of Maryland, so in the Washington market. I took a sabbatical in order to test a theory about how the press worked by working on The Hill. So I worked for Claude Pepper. He was the chair of the House Committee on Aging, and I headed his communication operation. I managed the communication strategy for the House Committee on Aging, for the bill that extended protection for mandatory retirement to the age of 70. So, I became knowledgeable about the issue, and I was his spokesperson. I also wrote all of his speeches. I was dealing with the press on his behalf, and I was writing speeches for him. So, there'd be times in which I’d get a press query for him, I would check with him. He would say, “Kathleen, just say anything you think I should say.”And I set up the communication structures that we as a committee were using. So I was briefing both the Republicans and the Democrats on the issue, and in the process, getting to know a whole lot of wonderful people on the Hill. At one point, David Broder wrote a piece for the Washington Post. He basically was attacking the bill that I was advancing as the communication director, And I said to Senator Pepper, “Should I respond to this in your voice or in my voice?” And he said, “I think this one needs an academic, rather than a member of Congress.” Now, this is this person in his early 80s, saying to me, “Why don't you be you when you respond to this?” And I said, “Okay, I'll write something that is not from you.” Wrote this thing and got back a lovely response from Broder and thought, okay, there is a voice that is my voice that can talk into that sphere as well. So, my first experience as a public communicator was not communicating as me, it was communicating as Pepper, and then having him say, “No.” And when I was doing the briefings as well, I would brief in my own voice, The “Morning Edition” show was just coming into its own, it had just been developed at NPR . Larry Lichty, who was a professor at the University of Wisconsin when I was at Wisconsin, although I never took his courses there. He said to them,“Kathleen Jamieson is on our faculty, and she's really smart and interesting. Why don't you give her a weekly slot?” So, they gave me a weekly slot. They gave me a little try out. Once a week for I think it was three years. Now I'm in public intellectual space. So when Packaging the Presidency comes out in '84, they already know who I am. And now people are starting to take political advertising seriously. So suddenly, I was a go-to on political advertising, but they also knew me as a person who had been a voice on National Public Radio, and there I’m commenting about speeches. I'm commenting about anything that is communication. So Packaging the Presidency actually launched me into a space in which I was in at that point, what they were calling the Rolodex for reporters. I became a person they called when they wanted to get answers to questions about political communication. So, it wasn't one of those moments where I woke up and said, I'd like to do this. It was pure happenstance and a whole lot of really generous people.