So that we can sell drugs and get insurance companies to pay for drugs and we can continually stigmatize fat folks, because you know, and even though, you know, some people were like, well, if we say that fatness is a disease, it's going to stop stigma, stigmatization. Does anyone? Has anyone looked at the talk to the disability rights advocates, and said, how much how much stigmatization? Do people who have chronic illnesses disabilities experience do? Do they have a lack of stigmatization? No, they are really stigmatized. And obviously, it's, it's different for everybody with different marginalization that might come into play and different diseases be or disabilities being seen, as you know, quote, better than others, but I mean, shit that. No, no, no. Anyway, so, yeah, what I was going on talking about that was, yeah, Ansel keys, even when he was doing his kind of like, why do we define fat people? He was like, wow, the BMI is not that good, but it will do pig. You know, it's the best we've got. Because he was using calipers and water retention. And now we think about like water retention, that seems so funny and weird, like how we would decide a fat person about how much water they had in their body. And it seems funny and weird, because we're not used to it, but and it seems so obvious that will fatness is, is defined by way, but that's not obvious, because it doesn't make sense, right? The same way, like if you had gone with water, we'd be like we're obviously fatness is how much water you have in your body. And what do you mean, it's how much you gravity you have compared to the earth? That sounds weird. You know, it's just because it's just so normal for us. So, so, so, so So, so let me read this a little bit from here from Reagan. Chastain who it's it's titled Is it or it is wrong to charge large people more for insurance. And in this, Reagan talks about the newer history of the VMI, and it's categories. So three members of the committee responsible for releasing the standards for obesity, including BMI as a risk measurement at the NIH, the National Institute of Health, I've should have included that but had ties had direct ties to pharmaceuticals, that managed manufactures diet pills for profits. Let me read that again without me interjecting. So and at the NIH, the three three members of the committee responsible for releasing the standards for OB BCT including BMI as a risk measurement had direct ties to pharmaceuticals that manufactured diet pills for profit. A fourth member was a lead scientist for the program advisory committee of Weight Watchers International. This committee advocated dieting for everyone who has a BMI more than 24. They shave 15 to 20 pounds off the definition of quote, ideal weight, which made over 60% of Americans overweight. Overnight. Soon, we were hearing that 300,000 deaths a year were attributable to obesity. In January 2005, the CDC came out with the new quote obesity and death figures, these figures stated that no more than 110,000 deaths per year could be connected in any way with obesity. That's a Catherine Fliegl thing. They also stated that the link may be a weak one. And so even with that 110,000 ones that's associated with fatness, the link quote, maybe a weak one, the lead scientists of the CDC also said that a critical analysis of their data found that people whose weight fell within the overweight obese and severely obese BMI ranges tended to live longer than those whose weights fell within the so called, quote, normal BMI range, Jules.