To express and I'm also very interested in serving on the youth committee. Thank you. Thank you. Thank
you Yes, my
name is Denise Taylor. I'm down here in regards to my nephews Toria and OBS Jr.
Speak up please.
My name is Denise Taylor. I'm down here in regards to my nephew Toria and OBS Jr. He was killed December the eighth of 2021. Mr. Hawley referred my brother in law to talk to someone the detective that was in charge. She was on vacation at the time. I guess someone talked to my sister Nam about it. My sister called Eva yesterday she gets no answers. I mean, it's gonna be a year she didn't gave the detectives information. She just ignores her. My nephew was not a just I don't want him he's not going to be just a number. He's important to us. She just needs to be done. And someone needs to give us some kind of information. If it was if it was one of your children. You wouldn't be like this. I mean, someone needs to talk to my sister. Let her know something. Because he's not just the number and we are not going to just let it go. And I just had one other question. The police officer had a list of crimes that happened yesterday, my sister's Korean grandson was killed and the 14,000 1400 black on letters they all add up to one seven. No one ever speaks on four a 217. And that's a crop. Thank you.
This has to do with the gist of our comment about Mr.
Hang on one second for him. Mr. Hawley.
On the border. Yes. I'm asking to shoot at least. Commander Hey, take care of this situation.
Do you guys have to let me do this. I was getting ready to do that you guys happened? Let me do this. Go right ahead.
Right ahead.
Well, you can, you can talk much better and I came going to do it. Because you thought you can move moving on but no
no, I love you guys. I have
a question. We have to do is do what were you talking about?
Between some other courses? To address your problem? I was just getting ready to say deputy t hey, do you have anybody in the room that can talk to her outside? I was just gonna say.
Mr. Chair, we have a second deputy chief Hope, who will take over the community members who have that concern outside so that we can do the necessary follow up certainly and keep them abreast of where we are in the apprehension of those responsible for the lost son and nephew.
Absolutely. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Yes. So the board's administrative staff interim chief investigator is here and his staff and they can also follow up on those those two constituents who expressed concern Thank you.
Thank you. Okay, now, Mr. Brown, who's who's next?
speakers will be Mr. Robert chromatic followed by Mr. Richard Clinton called Miss Bernie Smith.
Morning, my
name is Good afternoon. I'm sorry. My name is Robert Carmack. I tried to make a police report at the Fourth Precinct, third precinct and I called the number they told me to call. I tried to file charges on Mayor Duggan for false imprisonment, loss arrests, malicious prosecution. I can't get known to take my report. I want investigation done on this man. This guy's the leader of this city. He's committed a crime. He needs to go to jail. Just like everybody else. It was a cop. It was a commissioner. If it was anybody else. He would be in jail. Miss Banerjee. She's an attorney. I got a deed in the mail. And it was legitimate. Because it's Benard. Yes, that's true. Amen. That's correct. Mr. Duggan press charges against me because I caught him cheating on his wife. That's it. That's gonna cost me $200,000 To stay out of goddamn jail. Oh, I'm sorry about that. A lot of money. But the problem is you can't do that. I'm a civilian. Just regular person. I'm a single father of three kids.
You don't do this. Just don't do it.
I want to make a police report. I want to investigation. I want this to be found. out the truth. What he's done to me and my family. That's all. This is the police department. I paid for officer das and weathers Purium I pay for every officer in this country. They either were mad or for these stupid funerals and I paid for them personally papers, which cost me over $25,000 loss arrest by Officer Lieutenant McKay, who meets with the mirror every two weeks.
And that's how you do me. What is
with this world? That's your time. Sir. Um, there's some people outside right? Yes, somebody outside they'll be able to take care of you outside. So I urge you please
thank you this happened
and I'm gonna speak on about three things First, the traffic like these guys speeding up and down the street here. I mean, some way that she could put the cameras out here to scan the plate and pop it into database and find some of these guys because they haven't you don't kill somebody man you haven't already you know it's really want to say but do like the speed bumps. But probably got to have a front camera to shoot the picture of them while they're in the car, you know, to blow them right out. You know I'm saying get the kids class. You're on it. Needed bad man. People get hurt. Three kind of go together. You got a new legislator up here in Lansing. You got a whole new show. We need to introduce some mental health bills dadgum to introduce themselves for you to real all of those mental health health centers and anything they shut down. You know too many people get hurt officers you know brother got shot by one of them clowns, and I didn't call it LASIK. And another bit a little bit to swallow Vanitas. You know it's still from all the cops and everybody because you might as well take advantage of us run the table. Okay. Have no mercy, okay. I mean, they don't solve the city. Really? And now. Yes. Okay, and it's time to put a foot behind all of them. Okay, no, no mas. That's all I'm saying.
Yes, it Thank you, sir.
Chair.
Mr. Chair deputy. Yes. All right.
Good afternoon, commissioners. Yeah, right. Wonderful report from the chief. And I really appreciate him giving all of us the information. But I don't know what's going on with these other folks. So I'm not going to discuss them. But in the meantime, I want to let you know. I worked with the governor on her campaign and we were very successful. And in the meantime, I was sitting with the mayor. And I told him some things in regards to the mental health people. And we're going to be working on some things. I'm not going to confess to it now. But it's in the way in the works, but I just want people to know just behave and stop being angry with everyone. Because this we don't live but once I'm 90 now, and I'm appreciative of me living, I'd say a couple of months ago, but I still got my mind and I want to help these people that that's losing their mind out here. And the people that you have the day is sad. We need to love each other and stop always complaining. I'm trying to make it that that attorney rich because of the fact that the people, the police is doing what they they ought to do. But they're not thinking like they should. So chief, you got to keep up the good work of what you're doing. You're in haste and we'll get together and I would tell you some things that I need to tell you about. In the meantime, just be be be loving to each other and be careful out here and be safe. Take care
one second, Mr. Brown for you bring that person in. Go ahead.
Thank you. Thank you Mr. Chair. Yes, this is the point. You mentioned. The cameras with traffic enforcement. We've tried through traffic calming, mentioned speed bumps as well. Michigan law prohibits the use of cameras for the enforcement or traffic enforcement and taking action so our hands are tied with you kind of mentioned using it sees who's driving and to circle around and do that. So we are unable to utilize technology and that means but we will certainly if you give me some areas that you've witnessed, certainly I've got the Mac and the boulevard that Telford has has mentioned. So there are some areas that we can direct resources that we are more than willing to put the need the resources where the need is
or the chair. Yeah,
support of Deputy Hayes's a station about it being against the law at the state of Michigan. I'd like to also add the fact that there's a Senate Bill, a five seven with a senator introduce the fact that we should now in any way attach facial recognition kinds of cameras on to the traffic signals. And her rationale was because all we want to do is to assign people's tickets. Well, yes. And it's unfortunate. We really are very careful about describing the horrific accidents that could occur because because we don't want to speak it. But we appreciate I believe the board appreciates citizens coming to the public comments and continuously insisting that something be done as it relates to monitoring but because then DVD went down, increased pay and hopefully bringing on more law enforcement members might be able to assign even more officers to those various traffic signals where it has been demonstrated. cooperates in terms of folks just running through the traffic lights without any regards. So yeah, there's a Senate Bill 807. So we need to Michigan went blue. So we need to do something about that. Bill as well.
Thank you. Mr. Brown who says
this is to your left three speakers will be Mr. Scotty Bowman, District Four community advisory member this Victoria Shaw and former commission William date.
Mr. Bowman? Yeah. Hello.
Good afternoon. First of all, the contract and I echo what Eric blunt said about it and I just wanted to re emphasize you have policymaking powers and those policymaking powers could include that no one representing the Detroit Police department shall attempt to circumvent their authority, and shall in any contract negotiation require that a clause be included that prohibits that I'm sorry that states that nothing in the contract shall be construed to override the chartered authority of the Board of police commissioners. We need this because what we have right now is a system whereby a person convicted of a violent crime can be promoted and it has happened. officers working to stop crime should not have to work side by side with violent criminals. Then there's the matter of other areas of disrespect for the charter by this board, including the whole delay in the hiring of a new investigator and secretary and then the insulting thing of saying they had no one qualified when you had people of the caliber of Jerome Warfield among applicants for chief investigator is just despicable. And then there's the porter Burke's killing. Okay, we know the victims name, I just said it. But what about the perpetrators? Why are their names being kept secret from the public? I think we need to release those names. We need to know a little bit about the individuals that are responsible for this gentleman's death
I yield. Saw Good afternoon,
honorable board. Since we only have two minutes I'll be reading my review of the Neko conference into the public record. Over the course of several meetings. copies are available there in the room. The National Association for civilian oversight of law enforcement hosts an annual conference for law enforcement and jail prison oversight entities and community members to learn from oversight experts exchange best practices brainstorm solutions and encourage each other in this important work. The 2022 conference included sessions like analysis of police use of force data, setting and communicating performance expectations for oversight, the challenge of prosecuting officers addressing white supremacy and extremism and law enforcement, evidence based oversight. VPC is a proud organizational member of Neiko. commissioners and staff attend monthly Neko webinars and the annual conference. I was thankfully awarded a scholarship from Nicole to attend this year's conference. based on best practices shared at Nicole conference VPC in the public have some opportunities to improve police oversight in Detroit. In his acceptance speech Neko oversight award recipient Jason Wagner indicated that this work cannot be done with arrogance or focus on hierarchy, but must be done by listening and collaborating and essential to the safety and well being of our community. Best Practices indicate that I'm sorry number one best practice independent body. Best Practices indicate that the LPC should be structurally organizationally and politically independent of DPD and the city government leadership. The LPC should stop seeking to hire former police officers and to citizen complaint investigator and other more positions in addition to be LPC needs to think outside of the box about how they conduct business. Because civilian oversight entities are unique and needs specialized tools to be successful. patterning after departments like City Council does not necessarily meet the need of this type of board. There'll be additional best practices to be continued. Thank you.
Commissioner Davis. Good afternoon.
I would like to start off by saying I was pleased that that you changed and have a new chairperson on the subcommittee for personnel and training that is wants a small step in the right direction because this board needs to do a whole lot more.
In the past, I was part
of a US Justice Department Task Force looking at the city of Dearborn up under the Obama and Trump administration. And I could tell you this board possibly is going to be having somebody review this or in the near future. Y'all need to do more. And we need to have greater transparency at the same time. Many people in the public have lost our respect for this boy. That's why more concerns that should be gone before this board from public has gone before City Council and the public do and should have a right to demand the release of those names. Of all officers involved in shootings are opposite the bomb and shootings name should be released. You know, granted, you know we've had 36 barricade situations this year 13 nation this year is not over yet. We need to be doing more we need a mental health Taskforce. We need to make sure that we have greater transparency. We need to make sure we're doing a better job than this board is doing. We need to do more and more is not being done right now. I hope this board will start following the chairman and do what the charter says and follow the recommendation of the corporation Council. This board needs a new need a permanent foreign secretary and a permanent chief and obviously yeah, this boy is a bad example for the Detroit Police Officers anytime Yeah, do not follow the Chera Thank you.
Siri the extra week of three speakers would be a column with the last three number spot three for Lieutenant Mark Yong. La president and Lisa unity. Carla with the last three numbers 534. Yes, good
afternoon. May I be heard?
Yes, we can hear you. Okay, thank
you. First of all, I want to say my hands out to the police that have to do with so much people's trauma. However, the training is lacking. I know people I've heard people say Oh, police only kill Black people with mental illness. No, that's not true. They also kill white people. But I would like this commission to understand that this city causes people for mental health definitely has caused me poor mental health. Like when I got bully slammed to the ground by Officer Darrell white and he didn't produce his video and I got falsely prosecuted and what they're doing to Bob Carmack is absolutely despicable. And why doesn't Why don't we will have the courage to really look into that. So also, there's a problem with police response. They don't call. I called for a b&e. They didn't come. Went down to the office. They didn't come but I called when there were some dogs outside and people came. And I also had to go down to the there a couple of weeks ago to get somebody to pay attention to an arsonist.
That's really sad.
So, but when it comes for do when I am a patient of doing and they're lacking, they're probably understaffed and overworked. There aren't enough people that understand trauma. You can't just give people pills to deal with trauma and people who have family members with mental illness struggle themselves. You can't expect them to just apply them to the hospital. It's not that easy. So I wish I had a magic wand to give to everybody. And I'm sure that even the police officers involved in it shooting were traumatized. But these kinds of things need to stop and and and I've seen other cities they send out mental health team.
Lieutenant Mark Can you hear me? Yes, we can hear you sir.
Remember what you heard at the last board of police commissioner's meetings over the last couple of last few years retain what the chief said here today. 16,000 Plus mental illness was this year, barricaded Gunman at the barricaded gunman. I've never seen so many barricaded governments in succession over my 35 year plus career, homelessness and shelter population, mental illness, weapons, weapons, weapons, violence, violence, violence. Remember what was said here today, retain it, lock it in, because you need to remember this is what we face every day. This is what we face every day. The law enforcement and this community applies and untenable situations every day and everybody gets to sit back. Wait from the bleachers or behind home plate in a protective scene and get to have to pass judgment they are facing unpredictable situations. They shouldn't be responding to these ones in the first place, according to the experts. But there is blame to go around society's blame for putting these law enforcement officers in those positions anyway. And I'm going to end on this note the law enforcement officers are victims to after each one of these tragic things repeatedly. Nobody remembers what they go through. They are human to they risked their lives to give their lives and unfortunately, the end does not turn out like they want to nobody goes to work, hoping that somebody is hurt by their presence. They go to work, they risked their lives to make a difference. Thank you.
Good afternoon. To everyone in the city of Detroit and everyone within earshot of rip. I want to take and give congratulations to every honorable person that serves on the Detroit Police Department. The ones that are honorable. Now to get straight to it. The man standing out in the hallway rabbit quarterback is telling me the truth. I've looked into it thoroughly investigated every word that he's saying has come up actual and factual 100% accurate and the truth not to create and see why James D Craig James EY. Both know kaneesha Coleman could not possibly have shot herself physical impossibility yet. The commander
Michael muggins the Captain Derek may
investigator Marco prestart, Jessica product, and Geoffrey Hudson, from the Wayne County Medical Examiner's have all profit up a suicide narratives as totally totally reprehensible and despicable. Now what I'm going to say is I thoroughly investigated this matter, and I took it upon myself to take the extraordinary step of coming down and talking to me that Captain Derrick may look to him in his eyes and I know that man is on the Yes. Cheap way. You got them hitting up homicide, one of the most critical departments divisions in that department and you notice they both you know that they bow because I made sure that you know that it was both just like Craig knew they was both not you're gonna hold your head up pack when you walk out that room. But Porter Burke's got kicked out him officers union gave up the names that man and Keith Miller that video speaks for itself. You got to stand up, Louis to get get out the way man. Flat out. Stand up. We'll get out the way
turning your resignation. This is true that was your last speaker. All right.
Thank you.
Now we have well, we have a presentation to
the board. Well, before we have the presentation, I wanted to
clear up a few things.
The audiences in here today and on the world that's on Zoom. This is the most I've seen since I've been on this board in January. And I want to thank you guys for coming out and tell us your concerns. I hope we can give you some help as much as we can. And I want to thank all the callers just calling into voicing your concerns are taken to the board we have on DVD budget. First quarter and that's Mr. Zarco.
You're the chair. Yes. Mr. And the faculty if you as you've just indicated as the department's agency CFO. This presentation is the fiscal year 2023 First Quarter budget review, and this comes at the board's request to receive quarterly updates from the department regarding the progress and update as relates to the department's budget the board continues to monitor and evaluate the department's budget and looks forward to receiving the the department's fiscal year 24 proposed budget for the board's consideration and approval later on this year. But just wanted to note that for the record and also commissioner or Willie Burton did submit an excused absence notification to the board's office. Thank you.
You have seven minutes,
Mr. Chair. Good afternoon. Thank you for having in and today I will present the budget reports. Now overview for the first quarter ending September 30 2022. Which again includes the period from July 1 2012 to September 3 2020. to
the to the board.
I have sent materials pertaining to the Budget to Actual revenues and expenses as of September 30. The grant activity record new grants for the quarter ending line 32,022 forfeiture activity for the same quarter GS three capital expenditure report and then vehicle purchase report is someone that's why
we are working with that root zone so you may not be able to see it in the room but we are activating it there was on
the first slide is titled overview of fiscal year 2023 quarter one Budget Variance Report. Mr. Chair, it shows the report shows that the revenues total revenues earned in three months ending September 30 2022 amounted almost $30 million 12,000,009 55 to be exact. The actuals the budget was for $30 million. The actual revenues that came in amounted to $16.3 million dollars for a positive variance of $3.4 million. The total expenditures we were budgeted to spend $76.7 million for the first quarter and we spent only 71.8 This actually the spending is because of some vacancies in the department and some other items on the operating expenditures branch that are timing differences meaning that they are going to be spent in the following quarter just instead of the first quarter of the fiscal year. So the timing we expect the the budget to be spent fully by the end of the fiscal year. The other slide it's called overview fiscal year 2020 thing quarter one versus annual budget and again shows that the total expenditures for the quarter amounted to $71.8 million. That was the actual and the entire year's budget 12 months is almost $352 million 351.7 to be exact. We were at 20% Mark in that spending. The following slides shows the annualized revenue and expenditure projections, the annualized budget the 12 months. We are expected to receive 65 64.9 To be exact million dollars in revenues. And as I've mentioned before, those are three major sources of revenues that we receive our income tax, utility users tax and that is another one that escapes me now but those are two major ones we expect to receive we projected receive rather $68 million. So for a positive variance of $3 million on the good side and full expenditures. We are budgeted to spend $352 million as I mentioned in the previous slide, however, our projection is that we are going to spend $377 million and that difference of $25 million is the labor costs because of the new labor agreements that just took place last week as the honorable already know and we are working to do a budget amendment to reflect that increase in expenditure. The following slide. This honorable board asked me in the last meeting when we met, you want a little bit more detail and we're gonna get there. I just took the first stab at the providing the report. So the following
1234 slides,
I believe, are showing the details of those numbers that I presented earlier. So the first slide that I wish I numbered those slides. I'll do that next time for either follow up, but the slide is called FY 23 annualized revenue summary detail. And in that slide, as you can see, the revenues now are a little bit more details for example, I have municipal income tax utility users tax and sales and charge for services, which are the three three main components of VPS revenue are the following slide. Even the revenues are broken down in some more detailed numbers. For example, you know you have a slide there that shows other departments sales. And underneath that you see that the major component of that is the towing admin fees in the amount of $450,000 and that's the what rolls up to those sales and services. The following slide is the expenditure and if again, if you are following along the honorable Council commissioners, you have their salaries and you have overtime broken down in non uniform and uniform and then underneath operating supplies such as fuel repair, maintenance, and other operating supplies. So again, I just wanted to answer to your earlier request to provide better details now that being said, I do have even greater details on this, which amounts to 5060 pages, and I'll be happy to provide it but I don't think that this animal board has the time in their possession. So that's why I tried to summarize and then answer questions as you may have about those lines. But again, this is a first step I took to satisfy the board's request and in the future, this wide and you know the board I can I can work with you to provide more information as you wish. The other slide after this details for the budget. I have presented to you the overview of the forfeiture activity report for the first quarter. And at that point, the total revenues from the local forfeiture were $237,000 and federal forfeiture was $400 We spent on the local forfeiture fund out of local forfeiture fund I should say, we spent $277,000 and the Federal forfeiture we spent only $13,000. The following slide giving you a quick overview of some contracts as I started with the last quarter presentation, so I'm giving you the out. I'm showing you the contracts that the department currently has. And if you see the notation on the left hand side of the slide that says one to 90 days, that means that those contracts are expiring within the next three months. And the ones underneath say now you want to handle 80 days. So those contracts are expiring from three to six months, and 181 plus days. Those contracts have more than six months life in them before they expire. The reason why we keep those the numbers the days that they expire it because we start to work in advance you know the city takes long time to go through the channels to approve a any particular contract you name it doesn't matter how big or small it is, and we start working well. Ahead of 90 days in advance to make sure that goes through DPD goes through the budget goes through the procurement office and then to Mayor's office and ultimately to the city council. So just to give you again an overview and you know, that's that's the contract information report. The following slide shows the vehicle purchases report. The total amount that we ordered during the quarter is $8.9 million and is for a total of 171 vehicles. In the middle of that. We are showing you what operation of the department those vehicles are expected to be deployed. And again you have them from Bully market patrol car to canines to SRT and other other areas of department.
The following slide
stores the capital improvements that were made to the to the various buildings that department owns and operates and it's a lot of information contained there but it shows the contract amount and the column next to last shows the percentage of completion basically. So the ones in green are fully completed and the ones you know the others that don't have that green mark are showing that they are in bid process or they're in planning stage of the contract. So but the details as to what they are and which tracing is contained in that in that slide. And I believe that last slide would be the grand report that was attached for your information. I don't have that I have it in my packet. But I know I submit that to you they would like six grants that we started to request during the first quarter of the budget year. And with that, I conclude my my presentation and I'd be happy to answer any questions.
Fantastic. I have a couple of questions. Yes. One starting with the forfeiture activity for fiscal year 23 first quarter, total revenues 237,705 and a federal forfeiture of 4383. Why is that?
Because the forfeiture activity is split into two sections, the local forfeiture that that appears and and involves local forfeiture laws and activity and the Federal forfeiture is done in conjunction with the federal partners that involves more than one jurisdiction, meaning that the DPD and other enforcement agencies and then ultimately we end up splitting that money with other agencies involved. There has not been much activity as you can tell.
We don't see that much going on. And the second one is the vehicles Alright, we've purchased the vehicles and we have 23 of them have been deployed, fully marked. But we also have
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Fully marked but we haven't deployed them yet.
The answer to that needs to change is that the order it takes depending on the type of vehicle and the time we order, it takes time from the order to deployment because not only the production stage and the dealership getting the possession of the vehicles, but then we feed them for you know with other items so they can usually like six months in my if my understanding is correct that between time reorder and we get
Okay. All right. That's all I have permission to press. No questions. Thank you, Commissioner. More.
Just briefly, Mr. Chairman, on page 11. Sir, you mentioned about contracts. How you go about getting a contract with the city.
I'm sorry, I didn't get it.
What is the process to get a contract with a saw
the process of the process? Firstly is the need if there is a new lead or an existing lead, let's say that I'm going to pick one of the security services in this building. The current forms for example, the contract expires in June of 2023. Then we start going out for bids. So it's published in the city's website that this contract is up and coming for all public to know this is a transparent process. And then, as people bring their bids in, those bids are evaluated by the contract and the procurement office. And, and again, we are involved on the budget side. We're involved with the paperwork, meaning that the contract meets the one I say we the DPD that the contract meets their requirements and specifications and then once again, the contract meets DOS and they have 10 bidders and some of them need the qualifications. Some don't. They will bring them down to you know they bring in only the ones that are qualified and each contract is a once the clears the Office of Procurement and the legal department because they look the legal language goes before the city council for their approval. Now, there are some contracts that the ones that exceed $750,000 There is a requirement that is from the bankruptcy days at the mayor's office. First approves them and then the oversight board I forgot the exact name of that board is required to prove those contracts. So if the contract regardless of how many years exceeds $750,000 dollars in total, there is another hook that that needs to clear which is the state office besides minutes off, so that's the nutshell the process if I answer the question, thank you, sir. Mr. Bernard,
thank you for the report. And thank you for the increase detail. I have a couple of questions for you. I noticed that that we're spending more than roughly $2.1 million on automobile theft prevention. Do you know specifically how that's been spent?
Most of that is that's a lot of money, salaries and wages. I'm sorry. Most of that amount pertains to personnel costs. Well, instead of the whole for the whole quarter and probably DC Hayes has the how many personnel we have which I don't think I can even disclose that even if I knew in my in my shoes, but there are a lot of officers who work out of heft and just to make sure that the for the public and for the honorable board. This is one of the situations that that we pay 50% of those expenses, and we may pay upfront and then we get reimbursed from the grant that is called a TPA. Grant that should be on your list. Let's say that Michigan reimburses us it's an insurance pool that the state manages and gives us money. So basically, if we spent $2 million that you see 2 million out there. My hunch is that only $1 million or thereabout is our portion and then the rest we get the money from the state of Michigan in other words, if we did not spend that money, then then then state will not give you so we have to spend that in order to receive it.
Another question that I have is to the council recently approved as you know that this ShotSpotter contract one of their provisions they were it was a was a four to three vote believe or five to four five to four vote. In any event. They indicated previously the department had thought that that $7.4 million roughly was going to come out of the city's general fund. The council indicated that it had to come out of the police department. Where's that money coming from? And in the budget, that's through the chair. That's a lot of money. 7 million,
a lot of money. It's over three years however, it's not for one year it's over three years. Yeah. And the the initial the initial request was to the ARPA fund, you know that that $800 million as the city received, earmarked $7 million. We the department requested to use ARPA dollars to pay for the expansion of ShotSpotter not just the current one, the expansion to 31 square miles from the current 6.7 square miles that we have so initially was from our Park City Council turned that down so the Council sent that back said that now if you want to expend a ShotSpotter you have to come up with the DVD but from DVDs budget which is a general fund money and we this is pertaining to next year, by the way we Well part of this year and then next three years. We are making a budget amendment to find money from savings in the department to fund that expansion which amounts to 1.8 to $2 million for this fiscal year. Okay,
fantastic. Commissioner hope you see.
Thank you, Mr. czaka. As the commissioner Fanon has mentioned about the ShotSpotter is the last time a certain cheap new value was here. He made mention because I believe there was a an additional cost attached to that. ShotSpotter is deal and the money is supposed to be used, the money will be used to launch that investigation, whereby those incidents of the traffic the traffic light traffic DPB is launching an investigation and with citizens personally coming to the board, as they should to make mention about all of the red light violations. I was wondering through the Chair, if we could have Ms. White delve into what it was. Assistant Chief Lavallee was trying to explain and I didn't understand that it had to do with an attachment to the ShotSpotter. Bill as it relates to dp D launching a data research to see where you got to do with I want to see where those instances have a lot of traffic. So I don't know if my question is yes, but I thought it was our I thought it was pertinent, especially again with us being so concerned. Yes, ma'am.
Through the Chair, we can follow up with the department because
we're very specific that these are not facial recognition attachments to the traffic lights. Okay, thank you, Ron, that there was a chair. And when we met with Mr. Zarco.
My, my concern since
2020 with the COVID shutdown, and the fact that and we know why in those examples. Law enforcement members were clocking out of overtime. So I felt comfortable. Well, the next question is now that we're back out into the world to listen to Xhaka and it bothered me, but he was able to help me understand that if in fact it does become a concern to the board, that there's a paper trail that I believe he could generate that would help satisfy our curiosity as it relates to what appeared to me as a lot of overtime clocking being being reported by perhaps a few number of law enforcement members. So thank you again, Mr. Novak, and for your patience.
Thank you, Commissioner Holly.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. It's always good to have your presentation. And I'm very appreciative of how you outlined it detailed forum. Specialty people like me. I just thank you so much for that. One of the concerns I have missed in is the green light. Now, where is that in the budget? And the reason why I'm concerned is that I understand this is this is cotton, this is a contract outside contract. How does it fit into your budget or does it the
green light project
or say the if there are two components of that the installation of the cameras, the greenlight location and then the monitoring of we do not spend any money we do not budget any money for the green light installation of the right portion of that. Now the other portion is that the crime center monitoring the cameras and the police officers responding to that Yeah, so we do not budget for that separately because the crime center it's it cannot separate the function of you know, are they monitor the green light are monitoring, you know, other stuff? Are they going to track the suspects or whatnot. So it's all lumped into the personnel of the crime center. And of course, the officer responses are you know,
what example? I guess my concern is my information and it could be wrong. I'm often wrong but is that is I'm getting concerns from citizens. It's Carlton 12,000 To install this situation in stores and properties 12,000 and minibar business case for 12,000. I don't want to address that but I just raised that up to get a little emotional. So I'm just concerned about the fact is, where's the accountability? No, that was it. You don't have to do today. If that's not in your view, I'm okay with that. You can get it from somewhere else if you can. But the F says you cannot pay for $1,000 installation or something like this. And I wanted a hoot. How do we all have the budget way? How do we account for that money and who gets that money? And where that money? Oh, what I need some accountability. With that kind of money. Seeing this. I think we got like 500 Some greenback. He's hungry nights out there times 12 plus monthly. I just see so countability. With that I would like to take like then the commissioners. I think the otter know has a concern about accountability with that kind of money.
I agree. Yes,
I agree. Thank
you through the chair. I will have our Greenlight team, talk about what that looks like as far as the cost for the program, that external component paid for by those that are on boarded and join the program and those direct costs that they pay for the lighting and the cameras set up and look at where that goes or how that number is encumbered into the program versus what our internal costs that are captured in the budget would be for staffing it within the real time crime center to monitor to separate tracks and we will certainly have a breakout for that and get that before you. Okay.
Are you okay with that?
Yes, I'm fantastic with them because what I found out was it's some buildings is going to cost you about because it's bigger. That's what I found out the number that he just gave because some some some buildings when they do the green light doesn't cost him that much because it's a small building and you know, but like it was not a blanket approach
to my concern. Only my concern and unbelievable all I can say is accountability and that the oversight, we should have accountability of oversight is how it is I would only hear we just get a report of it. Or we don't know. It's a currency debit. And that's all I'm asking for and if it's the chair doesn't want it. I'm okay with that too.
I want to thank you. We will get that to you. Fantastic. Commissioner Bell. Commissioner. Thank you Mr. Masako.
One last question. One last question.
You didn't know we had a time constraint.
One last question through the chair just to go ahead at the last report that you may listen to in fact, Commissioner Bernard and I question why it was VPD pays Wayne County contractually. And I see no mention of that in this report. What has happened to that relationship?
I found out a little bit that that was a grant that since has expired. This was a grant that was paid for one way county prosecutor to work with DPD and tpds cases you know and again was not funded by us grant pay for that. And that grant that was told has expired. Okay, thank you.
All right. Thank you just you came upon him information. Yes. It How can we get grants, how can we how can we, as a board, kind of get grants so we can hand them out to the community in terms of oversight, and helping us with this whole thing about police accountability and so forth. How can we get some of these grants and can this staff help us to find out if we get the grant department can work with us if they do with the police department, and they own his career. So can we can we qualify for grant subprime? Is that a conflict?
Yes, yes.
So we'll look into that too. Thank you, Mr. Zarco. As always lead always
thank you for your time. Look forward to today.
Madam Madam Secretary, who do we have up next, our presentation to the board,
sorry through the chair the Office of the Chief Investigator, the board's Investigative Division will be presenting out today, as part of its monthly updates. And generally the board also receives routine regular updates from the Office of the Chief Investigator in regards to police misconduct, complaints, patterns and trends in those areas and those service related complaints involving DPD. Additionally, the Honorable board can expect to see a publication from the Office of the Chief Investigator outlining achievements and best practices and recommendations going forward. So I'm sure interim chief investigator Akbar will share that information and that again, is in compliance with Nicole best practices, but wanted to share that on the record. Thank you so much.
Good afternoon, honorable board,
sir. Do you have 10 minutes. That's all. That's it. All right.
I'm gonna I'm
the chief investigator with the Office of people and I'm going to be presenting to you the October 2022. Statistics. But I just want to say as a reminder, over the last two years, my presentation focused on officers with two years and less seniority, generating the most complaints also explain the importance of frontline supervision. also informed you what shift is the busiest and receive the most calls for service as reminders afternoons. also showed you that officers with two years less seniority were assigned to the afternoon ship and some of the work and special ops the mission of the ASA chief investigators to fairly effectively objectively receive, investigate and make recommendations regarding complaints concerning the Detroit Police Department and its personnel. It is the goal of OCR to assist in improving the quality of law enforcement services by instilling citizens confidence in the integrity of the Detroit Police Department.
Now we'll move to OCR statistics.
This chart shows where and how complaints were filed by citizens. In October of 2022 123. complaints were filed by more than October of 2021 a 4% increase OCR receive what is two of the 123 cases file 33 of the 69 telephone complaints were received by OCR the eighth and second precincts had the most citizens walk in to file complaints. That means citizens coming into the station to file complaints. Next chart when looking at the location in which complaints have occurred within the month of October, we see the geographic distribution in the following map. Each of the points represent where the complaint where the complaint is states their interaction with the officer transpired. As you can see from the map the majority of these complaints occur within the fifth sixth and eight precincts. The color points identified the complaints that were resolved within one month, leaving those pending that need further investigation. Next slide. We also took a look at the officer and complaint demographics for the reports collected within the month of October 1 with the officers we broke down the demographic data by gender and race. In regards to race. We can see that 48% of the complaints are against black officers and 27% were against white officers. We have normalized amount of allegations against officers that identify themselves as his fan. And regards to gender. 59% of the allegations were against male officers, while 24% of the complaints were against female officers in regards to Officer resign. Units are fifth and eighth precinct had the most complaints followed by the sixth and the ninth precinct. Lastly, unknown officers will be identified as a result of the investigative process remember, we have 90 days to investigate next a lot. When looking at the complainants demographics. We break down the data by gender race residency and addition and in addition to age range, when it comes to gender, a little over 50% of the complaints are women. Wow, boy 3% of the complaints are male. The majority of the citizens and the cases for October were black. 75% 81% of the complaints are Detroit renters residents. And lastly, when it comes to the age breakdown, we see that the majority of the complaints
being in their 30s
People have complaints in the 30s 30% followed by the age group of 20 years old 23% and in the 40s age range of 90 19%. Excuse me
at birth. That's not what the schedule says right at the chart that you had previously, that I don't know what you're keeping up with me that when the percentages and so forth, are different than what you're stating. But maybe it's just something we'll talk after all
those entrepreneur things is those are the total numbers, right?
I'm looking at, okay,
because Okay,
um, let's see where we're at now. hellos compliance, October 2022. Yes, so this chart shows OCI code 142 compliance and October a word 70. Were backlogged cases. That is almost a 50%. Backlog closed.
The compliance
compliance clause in October and bar procedure allegations which were at 34% and service as 25%. There were 177 administrative closure allegations next sharply. This chart shows a breakdown of the 177 allegations as administrative closures or informal complaint resolutions. We have bought 43 of those in October 54. Inadequate service 70 and innocence of a charge complaints that were called a no misconduct exonerated. 28 No misconduct unfounded and that unfounded is based on the fact of the body worn camera well, we can clearly show that the incident never happened.
11 were
complaints don't participate in terms of my investigators. We give my phone call. We go out to the house and we send a certified letter and also lacks detail which means sometimes they they don't really give us enough information to even track down who the author is, or what how what is really the complaint about 14 were transferred to either I a force and some Sometimes we run into situations where they're not even DPD officers sometimes Wayne State University, their uniforms look similar to us to ours. Detroit Police Department, along with I believe transit also to their uniforms are very similar. And sometimes citizens may get confused about the encounter they may have with those people. Next chart. This chart shows a breakdown of the 194 allegations closed in October by unit 16% of the allegations were were from the eighth precinct. Followed by the sixth precinct. Now this chart comes from disciplinary unit and just for the general public so they know we are a fact finding organization. We we I am I'm part of the investigative arm for the board of police commissioners. We do we do their best you filed a complaint. We do the investigation with an investigative arm. I'm saying this so that you know that when we sustain officers based on our backline we are not responsible for the penalty. Okay, we're not responsible for the feeling when a person gets a written reprimand or suspended or whatever all we do is the fact finding now according to disciplinary unit, this this chart shows versus show sustained cases from January first to September the 15th of 2022. And I give my total respect to Chief white because prior to this he probably been the only one that actually gave me such a good breakdown in terms of the investigations that we investigate and the action that happens afterwards. With respect to whether penalties are given and this particular graph that shows you the numbers with respect to that during my tenure as interim chief investigator, we received 3420 complaints. Let me repeat that again. 3420 complaints, we've closed 89% of the complaints received a total of 3047 CC Rs 62% of the compliance close were over 90 days for a total of 1895 CC Rs. So our office is working hard is working out and they always have been working hard, contrary to what people might think.
Lead sharp tools.
This chart shows the status of the OCI cases received and close since the backlog project was launched in February of 2022. As requested by this honorable board, OCI leadership together with interim secretaries board this white develop a plan to address the backlog project by implementing a triage and analyst. Criteria team. Okay, ci we looked at we we took a deep dive and looked at those cases. The triage project criteria consists of an ended up our analysts of each complaint file to determine whether violation of policy procedure or lack of service took place. During the citizens encounter with the police. This consists of a review of every available resource related to the incident including body worn camera review, retention officers daily detail, police reports, case notes, etc. From January to October 2022. OCR close 442 complaints based on the triage project criteria and as huge. This includes new and VAT law cases as a result of each investigators caseload was reduced by 37 cases on average. During that time, that means each investigator had 37 cases less than what they would add that I have on staff
right now.
This chart also so so far in November 97 of the 226 CCR s closed were new and backlog TCRs, reducing each investigators caseload for on an average of 10 Just this month. Since TCRs. Core investigate. This allows each investigation gather additional hours to focus on their current and backlogged cases. This information shows that our project is effective and credible and continue. The caseload will continue to decrease significantly, thereby resulting in a much time to your submission of completed cases in the upcoming year. You know, Secretary to the board mentioned a report on the achievements of the officer, chief investigator in addition to the actual board staff also to and I'm also proud to say with the assistance of Mr. Issa blossom, we're going to be putting out we got a written report for you. I'm hoping that sometime next week, we can have it put together for you guys in writing and that you have in the course we're going to post it on our on your website that lets the community know what we've what we've been doing. Some of the things that it's going to be discussing. We're going to talk about our technology advancements, our city partnerships, we partner with other people in the city Detroit to to work and to improve community relations. Okay, community relations without What was with partners Best Practices concerning investigations. We've all the best practice we don't just look at to say Detroit, although I'm going to Neko for the folks once in April, you truly understand how far advanced as a board we really are. Especially with your investigators, your investigative staff. I don't know if if you realize that a lot. A lot of complaints that I had heard from other cities. They can't even get their officers to give them statements. Okay. They cannot get records from their record management systems be able to investigate thick their cases. And that's supported by using the latter to just totally disregard what people are saying, but you don't have that problem. You don't
six No, no, we don't. We don't know. So So are you ready to wrap up? Looks like you had your last slide there.
Okay
now I'm on V nice. How to Buy how to buy a police misconduct complaint. And that's what we investigate believes this time. You can use the bow one
as the Officer Chief
Investigator, which is located 900 Mara plots. I remember a lot and that's in Palmer Park. You can also call us at 3135962499313596249 I always have a complaint officers sitting at the desk 2008 and four. If you call after four, just leave a message all you have to leave is your phone number and your name and one of my investigators will contact you the next business day. You also can file a complaint by fax Area code 31359624823135962482. You also can file a complaint online Detroit mi.gov/vo PC, Detroit mi.gov/bill PC and last but not least you can file one at any Detroit police precinct. Just make sure that you request to speak to a supervisor and they'll be glad to take your complaint. At this time honorable bore I'm do with my presentation. I mean I just finished my presentation and at this time I'll be able to take any of your questions.
Great. Thank you. Hang on.
What are you have to occur? Here we were at Bible eight. All right,
so why don't we add them back law cases today right now? I mean, it would be
a good question. Okay. The
chair the slide presentation, stand 438 is the next slide
for 38 right now. Right? Or 38? So that was a difference of 70.
Okay, all right.
I'm just 508 last week. Right question? 38.
So as it says the difference of seven in progress, okay. That's all I'm asking. keeping notes. All right. Go ahead. Go ahead BC
through the chair. Okay, I'm Anton cheap hardware. I'm looking at clothes complaints, administrative closures October 2022. And I don't see a page number but you have here listed the terminology that drives what happens to that particular case. And I do not recall seeing administrative closure innocent of the charge. Now it's only 17. So maybe in my barrage of cases that are ring. I've not come across where this was noted as a closure. So and attached to that if our law enforcement member receives this kind of nope notation on the citizen complaint. What happens to the paperwork, okay, as it relates to the officers records. The innocent of the charge
and innocence of a charge last for OCR this what it represents is the fact that sometimes we have citizens that will only complaint that they have is that I received a ticket and I didn't run the red light. Now that's something that my office we do not investigate that. That's handled in the a 36 district court before a judge is adjudicated that way.
So that accusation then does not translate to a charge that appears on the officer does not okay, good. Now, let me go back to 2000 where we 2020 to 2021 when that Wayne State report came out, and everybody's you know, up in a frenzy and and trying to make it so controversial, even in light of the fact that Ms. White initiated the relationship.
I initiated it.
Okay, Miss this truth.
Thank you. Thank you. I believe if we had the commissioners had an opportunity to have a presentation by the authors of this report. In my example, it would have helped me better understand a lot of this terminology, because to me, that was the sole purpose for that report. To help. I don't know help clarify most of the terminology that that is being used in the closure of these cases. So it's a sad commentary that you know, we're not going to do it but how kick that can down the road. That's not
what I said toward the end of our partnership. Wednesday, this is one of the partnerships that we have it but keep in mind, Wayne State gets all the data from us. Okay. And we matter of fact, if I remember correctly, it was at what one point they they sent back a report and it was kind of really was awesome to be honest with you because this the interns they had working on that did not understand the processes and the terminologies. And after speaking to this white micelle in terms of what the process is, they had to make those corrections within their within their within their report that they supposedly written out about us because they didn't even they didn't even understand it. Just why to
say it, but I really believe it was an invaluable tool that we could have we still in our training.
Yes.
Just Just very quickly, I think we may be talking about some different reports. But the most recent Wayne State University collaborative report with the police commissioner's administrative staff, we have published that on the board's webpage, and the board's administrative staff will be giving a formal training. With regard to that report, Wayne State University had some scheduling conflicts and indicated that they would not be available to give a training but it's our report. We worked with Wayne State to come up with those best practices recommendations though we can we're just as qualified to give the training as well. Thank you so much honorable board
commission that is a good good report. aakar I don't have any lead. The backlogs is down to the 508 cases for the VA. We've hired eight more investigators last week, or two weeks ago. I'm sorry. Have they started though? Where are they in this process? And it looks like we have a lot of people but not nearly as much work.
They're going to start on the 28th that will be Monday.
Okay, so we don't we don't know what difference they're making yet. So well, I'll ask that question later. Thank you.
Commissioner Moore.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman, Interim Chief. During the summertime it was stated that the backlog would get down to zero and that's still the case.
Considering the fact that I don't know how long I'll be sitting in the seat to be perfectly honest with you, you know, with the speed microphone with the speed that things are gone, but we're doing our best to get them down as low as possible.
Okay, thank you. Great. Commission.
Impressive. No questions. Thank you. Commissioner bass. Yes.
Here. We got. INTERIM CHIEF armour we have 430 cases. Backlog.
Is that correct? On a 38? Yeah,
that's what I say it for
30 838
cases in the backlog. How many OCR investigators too many that we get working on. 15 on working on the backlog. We just got
too many we have
people working in backlog.
No.
During the review, that like
No, it's not like that. So I
work. Okay, well, we have 15 people working on the backlog. Now. We're down to 430 38 cases. Now that's doable between what was the goal? December 15.
It was no it was not so. It was 15 was
the goal to build the chair on a board it was December 31.
What was it somebody putting down was
that something different? Okay.
Okay, well, December the 31st. We got on the 438. Now, we got to achieve this goal. We got to start achieving some goals on this board. We have to achieve that goal.
Did you get into work?
When you say that we're working in Hollywood, I mean,
what you want them to work it out.
Right? That's what it's about. We want to achieve our goals. Right. All right. I'm all set. And one more thing, those officers that was disciplined from the eighth precinct. Now those are the precinct that
have the highest
discipline, right. What? What type of discipline that they've received. Interim Chief, what category one, two or what?
I
can't answer that. You can ask. I'm all set. All right, Commissioner Hernandez. Due to the sake of time I'll withhold my question. Ah, Commissioner Bell.
Thank you, Mr. Chair. I just want to the public would be aware
that what Chief
Investigator Aguilar reported out the racial breakdown of the complaints and reassure we don't have a racial problem in Detroit Police Department, in terms of people think that we have a predominant like police departments trying to retain that but when you see that complaints, just majority African American officers. So keep that in mind that is a problem of blue, not a problem of black and white, in reference to what we deal with. I think the consistent over the years in terms of integration of Detroit Police Department, I just want to point that point back to the point that I mentioned Holly,
thank you Mr. Chairman, and thank you for the report. I really, really liked the presentation when you really get it laid out here. One of the best I've seen in my my tenure here. Understand to the commissioners that up to two, two weeks ago, we only had seven investigators. Now we got 50. Right. Another eight have not had not been activated yet. They're still in training. So that's the reason why we got to understand where we are with the number right now. But I do appreciate the questions that you're asking. Let me ask you this my friend. That is when you have a complaints in no one is 23 Cat plates came in, in the last month. So do you evaluate those places too? Are they are they reactivated into the system or the place are invalid for some reason or another in this so do they move forward or do they dismiss and and that's the first thing. Nothing is dismissed. However, we do have a triage team and their responsibility is to
first make a determination whether or not technology if there is police misconduct, right. A lot
of times people make
complaints, right? It's and it's a situation where they they haven't heard from an attacker or or they they feel like
I clicked my question is this word those those words do they go that don't fit the criteria for an investigation? Where did what do we do with those? Well,
we do those we can we contact the command and bridge the gap between the complainant and and the command and work things out in terms so
so for example, in my in my head, I'm thinking that if if these don't fit the criteria, then why won't we take those, those pieces that don't fit the criteria and put them in a situation where basically, they can be like go through the process, which we'll put them in literally five or six from the from the Great, that's what we're doing. Okay. Secondly, Microsoft is what happens if I give you the backup plane and then you tried it down for whatever reason that I didn't meet the criteria do we know apply the people that complain though do we why we reached out we reach out and explain to them what their process is and we help them understand with respect to what you do. Do you reach out? Yes, that's what we show you. I did reach out by phone phone or Dubai note.
We we reached out to on that on. We're getting a message to him that we're trying to contact them
through the chair. I would also mention that we mail out letters to the complainants, notifying them of the findings of the investigation of the outcome whether that's required or not that with all investigation
register mail to
I should know that I apologize. I just didn't know. But I just feel like that is the right thing to do. Right. Thank you so much. All right. Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you for your your record, sir.
Thank you.
Report from
BOARD SECRETARY Miss White.
Yes sir. Through the Chair honorable board. The incoming correspondence is noted on the agenda and they are as follows correspondence from Chief of Police James E. White regarding the recommendations to promote to the rank of Lieutenant sergeant and detective and staff. They are preparing to send those documents to you it is a very heavy binder, but we will make sure that you have those various documents and support material. Also the animal board we see agency CFO Mr. Knows articles budget documents be LPC committee reports and DPD weekly facial recognition technology report and other technology reports consisting of Project Greenlight and also mental health related calls for service the animal board also received and it is in route to you in regards to correspondence from labor relations. City labor relations, the Honorable Ward receive correspondence from and also guys staff member regarding a recent meeting with OCI staff, and also the honorable board we see various OCI officer the chief investigator reports for your consideration. And that concludes incoming correspondence. Thank you.
Thank you. I'm gonna move on to announcements, but on announcements, I have one right now. I want to just get out there real quick. Second, Deputy Chief commerce Joy hope she has extended five pouches for turkeys for each Commissioner. So you can pass out with to your congregation, your constituents in your districts. The thing is to take one home. The thing is you have to be up here at the BLP see tomorrow between five and seven o'clock, seven o'clock so they can get here. Please urge them to come in if they can't get here. Yes, what? Why don't you come up here and pick up the turkey yourselves and pass it out to them? I think they will love to see that.
It's had enough time to cook a turkey by Thanksgiving.
So okay, so we see each commissioner is gonna get five vouchers. Oh vouchers. Yes. After you give them the voucher and then they show the voucher and they pick up the turkeys. Thank you. Thank you. I'm just Well,
good afternoon. Mr. Chair, this board and citizens. The next meeting for the bo PC Thursday, December 1 2022 at 3pm. The location is here at Detroit Public Safety headquarters. And the next community meeting is Thursday, December 8 2022. At 6:30pm with the third reason hosting at Considine Little Rock recreation center located that address will be 8904 Wood Avenue. And this the chair the committee mentally committed meetings for the month of December, which means every second Wednesday, Budget Committee meeting December 14 at 2pm. personnel and training committee meeting December 14 at 2:30pm. Citizen complaint committee meeting Wednesday, December the 14th at three o'clock and Policy Committee meeting Wednesday, December 14 at 330. And this is true all those take place here. He took off the state to headquarters and you can also be on Zoom.
Thank you Mr. Brown, finished business. Your PC committee reports the week of November the 10th.
And we can start with we can start with personnel and training report. That would be Commissioner Bell.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. This is my last report as chair. I'm going to be a little nippy to some extent. But I want to say that
you have 10 minutes or two minutes
through the chair if you can speak into the mic so we can hear you. Thank you so much.
Well, I'm going to take appropriate time to speak because the personnel This is crucial at this time. I want to say that people helped me concern about the status of our interim employees. And I just spoke to report just today in reference to that. I just want to reassure you that Cooperation Council valid which I reported out two weeks ago is reassured us they can revert back to the previous position once we hire personnel to replace them. So that was clear. So we have circulated it you know in the past as board has had interim people over the years that's permission Hollywood know that thank commission Banagher we know that but primarily when we look at it, that there was no not too long ago. Chief Investigator Akbar was interim and there was no issue whatsoever in reference to serving until he we've reverted back to his position. We just completed the hiring of eight investigators. And I think that was a thorough process. It has been mentioned already. They start on December the 28th.
And November the 28th.
Oh, sorry, November, correct November 28. That's not going to be the immediate impact in terms of the people coming on board. Because it going to take a time for the transition. Hopefully we see it in February or March in terms of the whole process of training indoctrination. We have interview schedule, which have been ongoing but chief investigator and board secretary as you will know it's been a cumbersome process working with HR. Some people have declined to be interviewed. Some people have moved on to have no interest. So but that is ongoing. And we hopefully will complete that process or the committee process in the next two or three weeks. Now we receive a hot issue. I think this probably has something to do with my concern as chair of this board. I want to say this, that if we're not concerned about our staff, who is concerned about our staff, it should be this commissioner in reference to you all receive a letter that was generated by the staff in terms of that concern. So I circulated that because we've talked about transparency and accountability. There has to be transparency, accountability of Commissioner interaction with the staff. So we hopefully in reference to allegations that were made about work performance in the sector, and even to the frame commissioners and with the staff, which is totally inappropriate behavior. And that's something we concern about if you're not going to be
talking about is that
part of what's written here
this is part of my report now. I know you and I complain, you stop me I finish.
So the city wide workforce HR we are drafting communication and already been circulated as the collective bargaining agreement on state law regarding employee practice. Therefore, it's imperative that we follow proper protocol and refrain from meeting with staff members given those governing rules and System Policy and follow the communication protocol. And the chain of command. Please do not meet the staff by yourself. It should be a proper protocol to make sure the staff was there. And therefore that would be a proper exchange which we have engaged in the past that is a process that most organizations so hopefully, we would have that communication with HR in reference to how to conduct yourself within that process of speaking with the staff. While appointed, they serve and push the board but they are a organized union as you will know. And most of us familiar with Union, due process and rights that what we're trying to do is stem or curtail any other improper action or legal consequence of those types of conduct. So the labor relations is also reached out in processes secured in a meeting with our board leadership regarding a recent meeting with OCR staff via greater education, regardless city workplace procedure, labor law and all applicable in Formula. This was not generated by the committee this was generated by the employees of OCI and the concern of the board members in reference to this particular issue how we can make sure we curb this we don't incur more issues or problems with labor relations. So that leads me into my report. Thank you for the opportunity.
Thank you. Policy and
the chair yes, if the report can be entered into the record and accepted by the full Board as adopted into the record,
no, I'm just
she's asking for a motion. No, I don't think you can do that.
We're gonna hear from voluntary
The only time you adopt committee reports is this. They have specific recommendations the report should be attached to the official minutes of this body all reports. Any report that this body receives should be attached to the official minutes. You do not adopt committee reports. Unless you are adopting a specific recommendation from that report. The fact that you purge report means that it was given you heard it, you attach it and I didn't hear any recommendations.
I think we're
unready. For a recommendation I've
been adapted in the past. You may have seen I might have been what the honorable boards did. Your parliamentarian is advising you that it is not advisable because when you adopt a report, you're adopting everything in that report and I don't think that's what you want to do. Now, if the committee has a specific recommendation, then the committee can bring a motion that this board then could vote on it. But there's no point in adopting a report for it, it will be attached.
Thank you. So whatever committee person, like to
bring that motion. What? Wait,
hang on, just said it. Got these right. No, okay.
You don't need to do anything. We'll move on to your next we're
moving on. Thank you. Thank you.
Want to discuss the report though? Yeah.
Or if we have questions about the procedures that we can we ask questions about?
Yes. The board always has the right to ask questions about a report. Right. Yes, go
ahead, ask questions.
To the Chair. Just a question about the letter course. I won't go into specifics. But the incident I guess that we're talking about, and I know I'm not getting into specifics Friday, October 28. The letter was dated November 2, we just got it two days ago. So can you give me some rationale on on the delay.
I shared the communication with the leadership first of all, and therefore, they really should be aware of that. It's on their next meeting, as you will know, I was not at the last meeting. And therefore this is my first meeting to have opportunity to bring it to the full board. And that's something that the chair has always insisted on share with entire board. So that's what I initiated,
right? So two days ago, we just received it as my question. Yes, sir. What's the what's the delay as it relates to receiving the email? How can we receive it a week ago prior to I think I just explained that now you say your presence and your presentation understanding Well, I'm here. Well, we just received an email two days ago regarding just wonder about the time for and that's all.
And the commissioners incorrect. I didn't get anything either. Oh, I didn't need the leadership. So I'm sorry. I didn't get it. I just didn't get it. I got it when you guys got it. Thank you, sir. That's what I'm saying. Go ahead, Commissioner. Um, a couple of things number one number you can't see anything current good, and
I'm not gonna I don't know anything about who people are, what they're doing. My problem is that your your report indicates that we are interviewing five people. I have in the history of this board. The position of board secretary and also head of OCI have always been interviewed by the entire board. Right? It has never been a subcommittee that has ever had this responsibility. Secondly, the five people that are to be interviewed have not been identified to the full board. And nor have the list of I only well, you gave me a package of about for the board secretary position about 22 resumes. I'm probably the only person that read all of them. That's not true. I was just created my own personal report and those persons and what I thought was appropriate, I never received anything back from anybody. Concern. I gave a copy on orange paper to the whole board so they can see what my rationale was, what my thinking was. This is an extraordinarily important decision. And as you can see from the litigation that we've just received, from a former from a person who applied this, this is enormous, this cannot be this has to be totally transparent to board members from the beginning to the end. And furthermore, the recommendations as I pointed out to you, and a memo that I sent you today, regarding the what HR recommends to us, is tremendously flawed, and is the reason that we have the litigation now. So I think this whole process has to be one transparent to re examine. Thirdly, we have to have a discussion of all the candidates that we know of whether was sent by HR or not, and we have to make a decision about who we want to interview. This is not a closed or clandestine kind of thing.
Okay, Commissioner.
Those positions, the others you did that on your right on the eight investigators are okay, we're gonna let that slide with this is not
possible. We're gonna move on. Do you have anything
okay, yeah. Okay, in response to promotional Bernards concern that she submitted her evaluation of the candidates.
An email went out,
guys asking commissioners to forward their recommendations to Miss White. And I don't believe Commissioner Barnard made that effort even though some of the candidates that she did recommend to the board of police commissioners. She and I agreed and disagree. But to your you didn't send your recommendations to to on this one. And that's why your recommendations probably did not get picked up
my recommendations. Everyone in this room knew what they were and I'm sure Miss White had them. I may not have sent them to her but she was present when I handed them out. But that's the point. I deal with this as a board
you alright, we're moving on. Committee.
Okay. Okay, as it was shared earlier regarding the security of employment relating to miss Melanie white, and Mr. Lars artbar. I don't know why that process had to be implemented. There was never I don't think a discussion whereby Miss Melanie white and Mr. Laura's aardvarks employment was in jeopardy. I agree. So I don't understand that. Oh, we're trying to be very supposably triggers parent and respecting of that report. The very essence of that report suggest and someone even used the chain of command. That was not how that information was delivered. It was it was not a chain of command. And I really questioned how some commissioners received the report. Leadership didn't receive the report.
So
when you talk about transparency and chain of command, that was not the way that information was delivered. Okay, thank you.
Just you get the last word on that and we're gonna go to the policy.
Go ahead. Well, Mike, to the chair and to the board members. It's always my concern is just trying to have a Mattis in the best way we can because of the public.
Commissioner menarik
if she's, Mr. Chairman to the chair, if she's, if she's complaining about the HR or the city of Detroit I don't understand because I'm just talking to you again now. Google chair. That is how we get that that's how we get candidates is through the HR. Now she or we may not like what they've sent to us, but we have a right to vote it up. But this has done. The second thing, Mr. Chair, my understanding is is that we have committees, and we have personnel committees. So it was compelled it was we went out to do to do the the interviews for all investigators. I Never No one ever told us or has there been a motion in the record that we're not to not to do do the same thing for the secretary for the author, its chief investigator. So if we got if we can change that she may have she may want she may feel that way. But until she changes that other board changes that. This the way we've been operating our way, my way our committees. So I'm just I just wanted to let us just try to be civil about this. We can have disagreements, but I'm just saying the city is us. HR gives us the people. We we interview the people we represent we recommend the people to the board. The board has opportunity to have questions to the people that we're recommend. And then we have a volume of a part about that from all board members. I don't understand why we are why we are going to change and if we do then this change it. But right now we are doing what the charter says and we have done by Mr. Chairman. The floor. I didn't bother you, Commissioner Bernard. So just to pay be patient with me. I'm just trying to say we could change it if you want to. But right now, this is way we we operate and to is changed that we operate by committees.
So let me just say I'm gonna say this and then we're gonna move on to policy.
We are involved with relocation on two different fronts regarding hiring Richard. I just want you to know when over the border point I filed a consult with the mayor today regarding the
full commission I haven't Yeah, we this is this is the process. The committees are here or this is take this one committee right now.
For personnel and training committee.
When the candidates come before those people in front of the personnel and training committee, they better ask some questions. I sat in on those questions. And I asked questions, right. We have a score sheet. They tally up the scores and who gets the highest scores because we don't see each other score sheet.
They move forward. We take the top two candidates, when we recommend them to the board when we bring them in from the public and an Open Meetings Act.
And we ask them questions in front of the public is warm and we get to ask a question
and then we vote them up or down. And that's what we're going to do for the
chief investigator position and the more Secretary position. So that's how it's going to be done. And that is fair. And committee
that is fair. So we're gonna move
on. So we're moving to the policy and policy committee report. So
chairperson
Lisa Carter is not there. So why share? Can you? Wow, yeah. Are you prepared?
That's a great.
You could just go to summary.
It was here. Basically what happened was, he met with the college professor down at Wayne State period. Professor Rebecca Rashard, Director of Clinical Education and the board and Wayne State will work with two or three interns as it relates to the workings of OCI. Correct. Miss Miss.
Yes. Yes, ma'am. The chair and civilian oversight measures overall, right. And Madam Chair, if I can just also add that this is part of Wayne State University's law school program right through the ABA, policing and practice fellowship at Wayne State. So this is the national program. The ABA fellowship started in January 2002. Following the establishment of the ABA legal education police practices consortium and 2020 and Wayne State University Law School is seeking the board's collaboration and partnership with regards to that particular programs to allow those students to engage more instantly in oversight measures and public safety as well as expand the board's civilian oversight endeavors and initiatives. So they are seeking the board's partnership in that endeavor.
And that collaboration will begin January 2023.
If approved by the honorable board Oh, if approved.
Alright. Now we're gonna move on to the budget committee.
Okay. There was a committee report Vice Chair, person anyhow. fair person chairperson of the Budget Committee, Commissioner, Jim Holly, PhD Commissioner Willie Ebell, Chairperson purchasing ex officio regarding DPD budget we met with agency CFO, Mr. Zacco. And he previously previously regarding several items, the upcoming DPD budget training, which was for Bo, Bo PC members, and that's going to happen in January as well. So I'm getting excited about that. A revised quarterly report and a timeline or receivables receivership of the GPD FY fiscal year 24 proposed budget. We look to receive the budget in the coming weeks regarding the LPC proposed FY 24 budget. We too are working to comply to compile a budget request based on the instruction we have received through the CFOs chief financial officer director and that was that meeting we had the other day. okay with it well, basically with the city of Detroit. We are planning to work with our agency, CFO, Mr. Joy and staff to ensure our budget reflects our physical needs, which are good and I think we're gonna be pleased report submission to city council early next year. We will share further updates for the Board's latest
report. Hi, now we're gonna move on to the citizen complaint committee that will be chairperson of that committee is
Mr. Hawley. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, to the board and to these two gentlemen, as we can might ask this commission to bail sergeant over this this complaint committee receive a presentation pass Oh, I see entrance Chief Investigator us our public regarding added 6.3 is absurd and police misconduct backlog cases, updates and other key information today and I hope that you were really pleased with the with the presentation that in this talk on me before each and every one of us. And then we want to thank him for his considered his containers reports regarding the OSD operations, case backlog, or this progress update as well as our P
measures. Fantastic. So that completes those committee reports. I want to thank everybody for that. And we're gonna move on to new business, new business. It's a closed session pursuant to section A of the Open Meetings Act MCL 15.268 A the department's request for the Board's to consider administrative Lea pay but with medical benefits for Corporal Shawn Hale. That 2003 a scientist wealth precinct
Chairman I had bought and he just keep right now but skipped right over looking down. Yeah, that's okay. All right. First, of all, love to share these lessons to you. Commissioner Landis. Congratulations on your new promotion. I want to be that as you know, congratulations on your new promotion. All because each training committee, state
take that and run with it. Right.
We're on with it. So check it out. And, you know, I got another one too. This is Sherman. You had we had talked a couple of times where you had mentioned that you had wanted me to take over the citizens complaint committee a couple months ago. I don't know nobody did. But I'm free now anywhere between one and two one Wednesdays now. I can do it for you. If you have anywhere between one and two. I don't know if you got a person for it. If you do, that's fine. I'm fine with it. If you don't, I'm just letting you know. I'm free to take it over between one and two on that last day, but I don't but it looks like you got father Holly and
we're gonna talk about that.
Let's now work in
there. Yeah. All right.
And I got one more thing. This is you know, again, one more thing. We have had so much strife, intention, conflict out of order on this board. You know, we want to we got to start setting goals. Now. We got new leadership. We got to start setting some goals and the goals we got to set I had follow me right here, right here where everybody can see it. Well, we've got right here, right here. Oh, everybody. Nobody is right here to spirit. I'm a prophet. I'm a pastor bishop and the bishop for 17 years. We have to we have to start getting number one. We got to start getting along better right here on this board. All these leaders and we can't get along. That's terrible. Leaders supposed to know how to get along with one another. leaders, leaders then we take some I told leadership at a prominent church in the city for almost five years. Leaders know how to leaders build people up. Leaders encourage one another to make people better. So as a leader on this board, they go make people better. They go on and they want to take a back seat didn't know when to hold them. They know when to fold them. We just got to do better with this without seeing my first year on the board. This is so disrespectful. So we got to learn how to get along with one another and we got to make progress. And I do set you slim which we're working with last year you matured last year. appreciate how you first told me this hey if he didn't enemies he right. So we just got to get better. I thank you for what you're doing. Take this all this.
Take out what it is taking. I mean it's up to me to share my friend, all this noise that comes to this. I'm just saying to you. We are independent thinkers. We're independent thinkers. You can empathize around here independent thinker is difficult, and the chair does an excellent job. I did the best I could. The other people did the best down through the years. But we got independent thinkers. And all we have to do is respect the chair and go through the chair and his state opinion. Well, you got somebody like people that sit around this table, that they are that they are leaders, and they have so I think we ought to allow allow this discussion to be healthy as you indicated. But every day you tell a tell me about how we need to act and how to do this. I feel like some of that can be disruptive. I just don't mean no harm to you at the one brother to another. We got millisecond round here. We got all those hoops for the most part I checked of everybody all questions. We all know I'm a Christian, as I say right
on the board. Yeah. Okay. What if
we had to appeal to the house and we're doing the best we can. But I do understand your concern and the community's concern. We are independent thinkers, which means we are we are we are we think independently and we'll cross each other from time to time shared that he did a wonderful job site to control it. It's difficult, but I think I feel like we look down and see what we're doing. When I went to no call, no call wherever we went to a call. I'm just telling you we are one of the best in this in the country. One of the best in the content inside of it. So this one is really gonna have no rights. You don't have no no problems, but we don't have the most of what's going on in Oakland, California. And Oregon. We're urban America. I say to you again, my brother. I appreciate you because you are a good, a wonderful Bishop and a man of God, but ask you to just calm it down just a little bit and understand. We're gonna get through this. He's tough times. But the chair is doing an excellent job as you indicated, can you ask to you can have my communion you can have my committee, I child but I'm just telling you but, but a one to two, one hour a week and don't do it. I was here you got eight hours this week. I know you did. Some DeSantis take if you don't take my job. You had to get more than one hour to apologize to me. I apologize for going, going. going too far.
That's okay. That's okay.
And I have one more. One more
thing. Move on. We're really going a long day. And we have obviously that deserves our time right now.
I'm moving on i Can you let me get out if you could please. It's probably quick. It's very quick. Go ahead. Okay, thank you. Thank you very much do this chair last week.
Mr. Hawley.
It just came to my remembrance, even his friend. It says something about what you had said you call it the appointment of water last week when I was speaking and I will speak you know, I was terrified this year. Until the last issue moved it up to today's week. Interviewing people and a point of order. I'm gonna mention it to you. I know you asked Mandy got a PhD I can tell you nothing. I gotta delete who I don't talk about it. But the water is only one person. It's not Paulo MCs here. It was no need for I want some clarity. Why didn't you call it the point of order though? I was seized here. Oh, Father Holly. I mean, you call it a point of order only some schoolwork when a person is not doing seizure. seizure. He unfollowed me or
when I was just remains.
Yes. We really can't move on. I respect your language. But I would urge you committed to something that she thinks is egregious to you. Please apologize to have that conversation here on a public record, because that didn't work. out like that. You could just pull them aside. And that'd be great, but not on public record. Okay. Yes.
Chair I move that we move to closed session pursuant to section eight.
I was recognized that motion you just recognized and I was under new business.
Yes, she was. She came right behind me though. She just pointed her hand.
Both of us were very quick. Yes. Where are we at? Okay, just briefly, Mr. Chairman, I was suggested in the future that when you changing committee heads, that you simply addressed the person properly to say that you are removing Commissioner bell as the committee head is disrespectful. First of all, and lacking in courtesy. The proper process would have been to ask Chairman Bell to step down privately from this condition Chairman chairmanship before announcing Commissioner Hernandez and congratulations, Commissioner Hernandez. Secondly, I did and I am going to pursue with higher bodies. This process that we have regarding HR and Mr. Hawley and our board I put in writing today and I will share that correspondence with you to the mayor's office about the inconsistencies and and and how HR has treated us in this process, which is improper under any legal definition. And I'm pretty sure that they're going to concur. What has happened to our board. And the reason we are involved in all of this litigation is is a direct result of what's not been happening with HR and that was my comment. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
I hope I don't ever have to do this again. And I'll take that under consideration on how I did it. Thank you. And I'm hoping I don't have to,
um, to get the chair. Yes. The closed door Yes. Okay. So first of all point of information. If we can provide some clarity on what new business actually entails that will be helpful for the productivity of this board. But now that I'm in knowledge I moved, we moved to a closed session pursuant to section eight eight of the Open Meetings Act MCL 15, that 268 department's request for the Board's to consider administrative leave without pay but with medical benefits for Corporal sham sale bench 2003 assigned to the toilet precinct with a two thirds roll call required.
It's been moved that all about
Madam Vice Chair,
yes.
Mr. Linda Brunner. Yes. Mr. Banks. Yes. Commissioner Willie Ebell. Yes. Commissioner Ricardo more. Yes. Alicia Hazel's Hernandez. Yes. Mr. aquatints. Presley? Yes. Commissioner Jim Holly. Yes, Mr. Chair. Yes,