Board of Police Commissioners — Evening Community Meeting 5/8/2025

10:30PM May 8, 2025

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Are we ready?

Good evening. My name is Ricardo Moore. Chair, pro tem of this evening's meeting to begin. And guess who's just walking in, our Chairman and vice chairman. So I'm going to stand

630 on the top. Keep it moving. Keep it going. Uh, Commissioner, more.

Alright, Mister Chair, yes. At this time we have invocation by Chaplain Glen Hodges, Chaplain,

Bob our heads, oh Lord, our Lord, How excellent is thy name in all the earth. The heavens declare the glory of thee, and the firmament showeth your handiwork. Day on today, utter speech and night on tonight, show of knowledge. There is no language with our voice is not heard. We thank you once again for allowing us to assemble as one body. Today. We stand with you, oh God, and continue to thank you for your presence, for presiding over this meeting, although we may have different opinions, we thank you for giving us unity of spirit as we discuss the concerns of the citizens and the affairs of the city of Detroit Police Department, we ask that you will, that your will be done, show us your purpose. Enlighten us that we may know how how how you want us to accomplish our assignment? Direct our thoughts, words, decisions and actions toward the right path and help us stay on track. Let us make decisions based upon let us not make decisions based upon what we know, but let us act based upon your wisdom. Enable us to think and strategize in ways that will achieve great results, Father, let your will be done in this meeting that you will get glory. We also hold up the board members, every police officer and their command staff, the citizens also the staff of the board of the board and DPT, DPD and all of the homes that is represented in this meeting today, we pray that they will be homes of peace, homes of love, but most of our homes where your Spirit dwell in Jesus, name amen, amen. You.

Um, can you please call the roll?

Commissioner woods, present, Commissioner Smith, present Commissioner Bernard, present, district two. Commissioner banks is excused. Commissioner Bill present. District Four, Commissioner Carter, Commissioner Moore, present. District seven, Commissioner Hernandez, excused, Commissioner Presley, excused, and Commissioner de Walsh is excused. Six present, sir.

Thank you very kindly. I entertain a motion for the proof for May 8, 2025, agenda moved by Commissioner Bernard second by Commissioner Smith. Any discussion? All in favor? Say, aye. Anyone opposed, the motion is carried. I entertain a motion for the approval of the minutes for May 1. 2025, moved by Commissioner Bernard second second by Commissioner Smith. All in favor, say, aye. Anyone opposed, the motion is carried introduction of the bo PC staff and chief of police and elected officials and representatives

through the chair to this evening. VO PCs, excuse me. Bo PC, staff attorney, Dante Goss drew freeze, Felicia Tyson, Mary Barber, Teresa blossom, Candace Hayes, armisia, Joshua, johnya Underwood, Office of Chief investigators, office supervising investigator, Tiffany Stewart, DPD, HR, Director, Katrina Patillo for police chief Todd medicine is Deputy Chief Michael parish. The interpreters for this after evening are on Zoom, Ms jakata and Dr Stephanie Beatty, court reporter, Don handy side, Enrique Jackson, audio visual, Charles Henry Media Services video registered at this time are Marie overall for State Representative Tyrone Carter's office, Shania Sutton of representative Stephanie Young's office. On zoom, are Ladon Davis of Office of council member Fred der Hall The third as well as former Detroit Police Commissioner, will excuse me, William Davis, also from the eighth precinct Police Community Relations Council, we have Gail Tubbs, President Michelle Ruffin, Vice President, Val leaver, treasurer, Peggy noble, Deborah Chapman and Randall Herbert, members at large and on zoom from the Community Relations Council of eighth preset is Nicole, I'm sorry, Nicole Fisher of the fourth precept, my apologies. And that ends those who are registered at this time, sir. Thank

you very kindly. I don't have a report for this evening, we'll go to chief of police report.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman, through you to the rest of the board. Beginning with our crime stats, we are down 14% in homicides down 32% non fatal shootings down 13% robberies for total part one, violent crimes, we are down 9% Let

the record reflect that Commissioner Burton is present.

And with respect to carjackings, we are down 28%

our community updates the 12 precinct

traffic operations, speaking first to that, the 12 precinct recently completed a traffic operation that started in January 2025 The goal was to reduce accidents by educating drivers and forcing traffic violations during the operation, officers made 40 felony arrests, including three for carrying concealed weapons, two for possession of stolen motor vehicles, and 92 misdemeanor arrests. Officers also wrote several tickets for license plate violations and many for other traffic violations compared to the same time period last year. There were fewer accidents that occurred in the 12th precinct when compared to this year. So it appears that operation was a success, speaking now to the seventh precinct traffic and traffic enforcement initiative, the seventh precinct is continuing to conduct traffic enforcement along Jefferson Avenue. Over the past few weeks, officers wrote 42 speeding tickets, 27 signal violation tickets, and several license plate violations. The officers also made one felony arrest from this operation. Department will continue to emphasize traffic enforcement in an effort to keep our residents and visitors safe while driving in the city, speaking now to search warrants with a focus on guns, keeping guns and drugs off the streets. Officers from our narcotics section conducted two search warrants on April 30, 2025 and the 9300 block of Homer and the 9600 block of Yosemite, they made two felony arrests, 10 misdemeanor arrests, and confiscated 11 firearms, including four handguns and seven shotguns, 8.8 grams of fentanyl worth approximately $880 106.1

grams of marijuana worth $1,061

93.2 grams of cocaine worth $7,456

117 pills worth $1,170.02

$143 in cash, thanks to the officers from our narcotics unit

their efforts to remove these items from our communities

is is worthy of praise.

Deputies, DPD members graduating on Thursday. May 1, 2025 26 sworn and professional members of Detroit Police Department graduated from the Wayne State University, Mike Ilitch School of Business, with their master's degrees on Saturday, May 3, 2025 86 sworn and professional members of the Detroit Police Department graduated from clear university with their bachelor's and master's degrees. And I'll note that my wife was one of those individuals the 10th turning to the 10th precinct arrest and search warrant activity on Thursday, May 1 2025 the 10th precinct arrest the suspect wanted for felonious assault for allegedly pointing a gun at two women. The officers also served a search warrant in connection with this incident. Officers recovered a digital scale ammunition, 29 grams of cocaine, 3.6 grams of fentanyl and several grams of other narcotics. The offender was on probation for controlled substances and was convicted felon. He was ultimately charged with two counts of controlled substance delivery and manufacturing less than 50 grams, felon in possession of ammunition and habitual offender. Fourth Degree.

We're also reporting out on the Cinco de Mayo safety

situation and isolate a homicide and search warrant, we need to thank the officers from the Fourth Precinct and other units who assisted our law enforcement partners, our businesses in the community for another safe and successful Cinco de Mayo. This was the third straight year without any major incidents. There was a fatal shooting at West Grand Boulevard and risen in the Fourth Precinct on the day of the Cinco de Mayo parade. However, the shooting was not related to the parade or any of the festivities. It was regarded as an isolated incident. The offender was taken into custody and has been charged also in the Fourth Precinct on april 29 2025 a Detroit police officer observed a felonious assault of a juvenile in the 4400 block of West burner, the offenders fled in a vehicle, and the vehicle was later identified through video. On May 2, 2025 officers executed a search warrant After locating the vehicle, spent casings were found inside the vehicle and in the backyard of the location. Officer search location and eight firearms were recovered. We consider this outstanding work by the Fourth Precinct and getting guns off the streets. I'd also like to report on a barricaded gunman incident that occurred on Saturday, May 3. 2025 officers responded to West Chicago and Hubble for a stolen vehicle that crashed. The suspect refused to leave the vehicle, and the tactical Services section was called to the scene, negotiations lasted for a couple of hours for the suspect peacefully surrendered. The officers deserve praise for their work with this difficult situation, and commended for their patients in a situation fraught with uncertainty. Speaking of Motor City makeover on Saturday, May 3, 2025 officers from our eighth and 11th precincts helped residents beautify their neighborhoods. Motor City makeovers a city wide beautification event for the first three weekends of May, and we're happy that our officers were able to assist in that endeavor. The Renaissance Center cutting suspect has been arrested. This is an update regarding that incident. Believe it was reported first to the board last week, the suspect was arrested on Monday, May 5. 2025 we want to thank the community and the media for their assistance in this investigation. Without the community, nothing that we do would be possible. A warrant has been submitted in the offender is scheduled to be arraigned today. The sixth precinct on May 5, 2025 commander Ronnell Newsom of the sixth precinct to honor two members of the South Warren Dale radio patrol. These radio Patrol members assisted the sixth precinct patrol unit who were involved in a struggle with a suspect. Thanks to this radio patrol, I'm sorry. Thanks to the south Warren Dale radio patrol for aiding our members, ensuring that we serve the best we best serve our community. Fifth precinct traffic enforcement initiative, the fifth precinct recently added another motor officer, allowing them to conduct additional traffic enforcement for the week of April 27 to May 3. They made one felony arrest and six misdemeanor arrests. Conducted 84 traffic stops and issued 131 tickets, including 16 tickets for license plate violations. The chief on May 7, 2025 kicked off the first walk a mile Wednesday of this year, and that took place in the ninth precinct. Former Chief of Police James E white joined the department in passing the torch as he started this tradition back when he first became chief. Throughout the summer, the Department will continue to walk through different precincts in the city on a bi weekly schedule, also on May 7, 2025 the 11th and 12th precincts, along with the vice unit, Wayne County Sheriff's deputies, Highland Park Police city, Detroit health department, e seed and other and others, conducted a quality of life for life operation for our residents in the John R, in the area of John R, from Nick Nichols to eight mile. This was a zero tolerance initiative with and with an aim for high visibility, aimed at targeting illegal activity, enforcing traffic laws and addressing ongoing community concerns. We want to thank our partners who worked with us, as well as the media, for coming out and covering it. This was not a one time operation. It will be conducted again. We have a class graduating tomorrow, on Friday, May 9, 2025 39 student police officers will take the oath and become members of the Detroit pool. The Detroit Police Department. Its graduation will be held at 10:30am at greater Grace Temple for recruiting events on Tuesday May 6, 2025 recruiting unit visited careers fairs at Mumford High School and Lincoln Park High School. Also on the state the recruiting unit visited the Saginaw career complex. This concludes my report. Thank you.

Thank you. Very kindly. Yes, sir. Commissioner Moore, thank you,

Mr. Chairman, Chief. Did you receive any complaints regarding Cinco de Mayo? I'm

not aware of any complaints regarding Cinco de Mayo. I'm not sure if the chief investigator received any, but nothing that I'm aware of because

the Detroit Metro Times did a story on the Detroit l club. Said that Detroit police were

intimidating citizens at the L club.

I'm not aware of any issue at that club. I can look further into it to see if we, in fact, received any complaints, but I'm not aware

of any Okay. Thank you very much.

Okay, any

other questions. Just want to point out that on Cinco de Mayo, it was raining. I don't I doubt you know, there was a very bad, cold and rainy day

this year. So what are you saying? I

say it to mean that there weren't a lot of people out. I don't think, okay,

yeah, but they did an extensive article said, police intimidation with dealing with the locks, you have to go to Detroit metro times. Steve niveling wrote the story. Think it's an interesting read. I'm glad chief parish is going to follow up on it. Yes, thank you.

Yeah, thank you. And if it was cold outside, that mean they went on the inside. Yep. Any further questions? No further questions. Thank you, Deputy Chief Paris and and thank you for all that you do. The deputy chief has been a board work in terms of helping us to get these policies updated, and been a strong partner with the policy committee to be able to work on our policies. And it was good to see you in the room on yesterday and Miss Can you almost say, but good seeing you guys. The community input is very, very valuable to us, and it's a valuable to department. He's been very, very welcoming to that. And so for those who pay attention to our website and have an interest in policy, please reach out and be involved with that and participate in that, because it's, it's a robust process. Yes,

just quickly. There are a couple of administrative messages that I think the community would be interested in. The first is that, and you may have read about it in the paper, the Supreme Court has said that the smell of marijuana when you roll down your window for a police stop is not cause to check the car or anything like that. There's a I can read the whole thing, but it's perhaps you want to explain

it. Yeah, absolutely,

yes. The Michigan Supreme Court recently affirmed a court of appeals decision that stated that the smell of marijuana alone will not constitute probable cause to believe that a crime is occurring, which would otherwise give right to give the officer the authority to conduct a warrantless search of the vehicle. The Supreme Court noted that at the time the prior case law was decided, it was a case called People v Kasper check, marijuana was illegal. All forms of marijuana, all possession of marijuana, was illegal. So the former law made sense that if you smelled marijuana, illegal activity was taking place, or at least had taken place. But since that time, that decision has been implicitly repealed by or nullified by the fact that the voters in Michigan have voted to legalize marijuana. So, because it will legalize it in most cases, so because marijuana is now legal in most cases, the court determined that it didn't seem reasonable to say that the officers had probable cause merely because they smelled marijuana, the smell of marijuana could indicate legal activity just as likely as it indicated illegal activity. So based on that, the Supreme Court said cannot constitute probable cause in and of itself. Now it's not to say that the smell of marijuana cannot be relevant to an investigation. If we stop a car that's filled full of juveniles, for example, well, juveniles are not supposed to possess or use marijuana. That could be a different sort of situation. But as a general matter, The Adult Use of Marijuana has been decriminalized, so the smell of it does not indicate criminal activity, and so that cannot be used as a basis to search vehicles

the other Thank you. The other thing the community might want to note is that the fireworks is going to be June 23 2025 Monday. It's always on a Monday, but it's, if it's a rain date, it'll be the following day, June 24 and there's a lot of you know, there's some rules regarding that level of that type of participation, but we're, most of us are already aware of them. And then finally, something else I wanted to call to your attention. Oh, the school threat policy has changed. Oh, you want to explain that it's, it's, it references here Anthony O'Rourke and Carrie Sloan, the deputy chief, but you want to explain how they're going to be handling

them now. Yeah, I feel more cars. I feel more comfortable if, if, what if either the deputy chief, Deputy Chief Sloan or Peter O'Rourke would speak to it. I don't believe either of them are here. Oh,

okay. Well, it, it has changed, and it includes cyber crimes as well. I can make the cop. I can have this available at the next at the next board meeting next week downtown. Well, I'll put it on the website. That's what I'll do.

Okay, Mr. Chairman, could I append something to the chief's report a couple of weeks ago, the board might remember that our supervisor in charge of civil rights gave a report regarding body worn camera compliance, committed to the board that we would sit down with Chief Investigator try to reconcile our numbers. And we did that. I think there was the point of confusion. Was all that Dr Martin was referring to, was when he was speaking of compliance, was overall compliance with activating the body worn camera. That wasn't to say that all of the conduct on body worn camera was compliant. That is just to say that the officers complied with policy 99% of the time. Or I believe that was the figure he gave. That is to say that they turned it on. So that was where our data and chief investigators data appeared to be conflicted. I promise to get back to the board and back to the board, and saw the opportunity to do it now, so I'm doing

it now. Thank you very kindly. So we have a promotion here. You want to speak on it before we go there?

I don't have it, okay? Chairman, I apologize.

So it's police officer

Tatiana. Is that Tatiana Walton,

and there is there a motion to accept the recommendation of Chief medicine to promote to the rank of detective police officer, Tatiana Walton support,

supported

by Commissioner Moore,

any one second,

okay? Second by Commissioner Bell.

Any discussion? Yes, Mr. Chairman, yeah. I did have a concern initially about the candidate, because it wasn't done with the grouping. I did contact the chief's office, and they said that it wasn't budget and that it won't be over budgeted. So I am in approval of this.

Yeah, absolutely. And it was because one didn't go previously, and they would say, like a swap. And also I did. I wasn't going to force this on the agenda for last week, on last week until all commissioners had the opportunity to go through it and be able to scrutinize the candidate. And we haven't done that. We received a motion from Commissioner Moore, and second by Commissioner Bill any further discussion, just

quickly, I had some concerns. Well, I have a note for the chief, I want you to give him, if you don't mind on about the candidate, but I noted that that she had straight A's in all of her tests, I mean, all of the training. She very obviously smart person. But please give him miss for me. Anyway, we'll do Yeah. Thank you. And you have my vote. Okay?

All in favor say, Aye. Anyone opposed, the motion is carried. Let's get to the eighth precinct report.

How you doing, Commander? Very

well. How are you doing? All right, great. Thank you for all that you do. Thank you for recognizing it's not all me, but I'll talk about that now. So thank you for having me. I am commander Detroiter. I want to introduce my team to you. I have, it's very important to us. I have more than a few people out here in the audience that came to show their support. So I have with me my newly promoted captain, Captain Bray. I can see in the back I have Lieutenant Ranson Williams. He's in charge of my special operations. I can see Sergeant crystal John. Sees in charge of my neighborhood police officers. I see two Detective Detective Derek Detrick Mott and I see detective Vanessa Burt, who works in the PDU. I see police officer Deshawn Perry, who works in our PDU. I see NPO officer Wesley. I see NPO officer children and anybody else that's hiding, but I can see some more Detroit police officers. So thank you guys for coming out. So I want to say it's my honor and privilege to be here today, and I want to start by saying a couple more Thank you. Thank you to the community. I think this is an amazing community. I've been in this job for 31 years, and I haven't seen anyone better. I love working in the eighth precinct. Thank you to the 160 officers that we have assigned to the eighth precinct. They do an amazing job day in and day out to keep this community safe. And thank you most of all, excuse me to the chief of police and the executive staff who had the the confidence in me to let me lead the eighth precinct. So today, I'm going to tell you a little bit about the crime, some of our enforcement efforts and some some community engagement efforts that we have, and take any questions that you may have for me about the eighth precinct. So our philosophy, I'll say this one time, and I think you said it best, Commissioner woods, is service and protection. So at the eighth precinct, my philosophy is service, service, service protection, community partnership to keep this community safe. With that, I'll tell you about the numbers that we have, that I'm proud of these officers, that they're doing right now. We are even in homicides and our non fatal shootings, I'm showing a 33.3% reduction in our sexual assault complaints. I'm showing a 71.4% reduction in our robberies. I'm showing a 16.7% reduction in our carjackings. I'm showing a 20% reduction in our aggravated assault I'm showing the 8.8% reduction in our motor vehicle sales. I'm throwing a 36.8% reduction in our burglary. We're showing a 21.1% reduction. And in our larcenies, these are all our part one crimes. We're showing a 31.6% reduction in the eighth precinct. So thank you to those officers again. They make it happen. So

31% reduction. It's significant.

I believe we're very engaged with our community, and I never come before them without telling them that if it's important to you, it's important to me, and why I may not solve all problems, it will never be from lack of effort. And I say that because, and I'm very transparent with them, we have identified some trends that I'm going to talk about, and I'll talk about the strategies that we use at the eighth precinct to deal with them. So the trends that we saw, my first trend I saw at the ACE parking is all our crime is trending down, right? All of the part one crimes are trending down in the eighth precinct, and overall we're down 20% I can tell you, in the last 60 days, we had 18 non fatal shootings. These are year to date numbers, by the way, excuse me for that. Those were year to date numbers from January 1 up until May 5, the day they were pulled. We showed that we had 18 non fatal shootings, which is still a reduction. However, eight of those, or 45% of those were happened on the seven mile corridor between Greenfield and Southfield. Since we know that, we did something about it, and I'll tell you about the strategy a little bit later. Also what we notice trending in the eighth precinct is the car thieves are favoring the Jeep Grand Cherokee. The Jeep Grand Cherokee is a target. The other Chrysler products and the Dodge Rams are targeted. And also the vehicles that are parked on the street. And I'll tell you a little bit about our strategies for that as well. So talking about strategies for the seven mile corridor, what we did is we use old fashioned policing with data and new new policing. So we use high visibility, targeted enforcement. So you will see my traffic enforcement up there, enforcing traffic, educating the public. You'll see my special operations up there. You'll see my on that seven mile corridor. You'll see my cease fire team up there. The Shot Spotter team will be there. Also. Our NPO team is up here doing some enforcement and education as well. And we also use special attention from the police officers. So that means, when they're not on the run, my expectation for them to be on seven mile, paying special attention, tapping down that crime. So as a result of that, in the last month, we have had no more non fatal shootings in that corridor. So again, we don't have it all figured out. We have work to do, but we are addressing crime, especially when we know it, and for the crime reduction, for the vehicles I leaned on the community. The community are my eyes and my ears, and they trust me. They bring me I thank them for trusting me. They bring me their problems. They bring me their information, and they have trust me to to work on them. So what we did for that one right now, we literally just partnered with the community. If you have a I started with the Jeep Grand Cherokee. Excuse me for that. If you have a Jeep Grand Cherokee, and if it's safe for you, please pull it in garage, pull it up in the driveway, put something behind it, take it off the street. And right now that's coming through, through community, through community meetings, but I was talking to the chief today. We're going to put it on on social media platform to how to harden your vehicles to make them more difficult or uninviting for car thieves. We also use data driven response responses. We run a restore operations twice a week with our special operations, where they are addressing suppressing violent crime in the eighth precinct, we use we have Michigan, Michigan Department of Corrections partner with us during our precinct twice a week, they're doing home checks on returning citizens to make sure that they're where they're supposed to be and abiding by the rules and regulations the standard set for them. And every also, every Tuesday, I have our federal, state and local partnerships in our precinct, in the eighth precinct, talking about how to reduce violent crime, and it's very successful. And again, the community, I have very transparent community meetings. If I have a problem, I'll bring it to them first, and we try to solve it together. So some of the tools that we use now be quick, some of the tools that we use a Shot Spotter. We talked about Shot Spotter. I just want to give some numbers from Shot Spotter. Shot Spotter for the community is it's when shots go off in a area that's protected by Shot Spotter. It literally tells us, give us a compass or area where it is so we can respond fast. And what we do with that is we use that data and that information to help to help curtail illegal gun activity. So and I want to give you some numbers, and this is from last year, year to date. So last year we had gunfire incidents in the eighth precinct. There was 874 this time of year, we're down to this year. It's 478 that's a difference of 365 a 43% reduction in gunfire incidents in the eighth precinct alone. Also rounds fired there. The Shot Spotter capability has the capability of counting rounds. So in the eighth precinct last year, there were 302 103,000, 3286 rounds fired at the eighth precinct. This year, it's 1773 a difference of 1500 rounds, 1513 rounds, which is a 46% reduction. We are using that to change decision, to make people make better decisions about using firearms in the city of Detroit, specifically in the eighth precinct, and we thank you for that technology. We are also using our camera assets to help us with crime. We have our license plates readers they help us out. We have body worn cameras in our in card cameras to help us out as well. We also partner with our project, green light partners, community engagement, kind of my favorite part. This is my favorite part of policing community engagement, I will tell you that. So for community engagement, I want to tell people a lot of those aggravated assaults that I talked about earlier involve domestic violence, which is unfortunate, and hopefully today, that nobody in here is impacted by domestic violence, and even if you are, if you're not, I want to share something. We have a senior social worker, Miss Megan Davis. I talk about her all the time. She can do some amazing things. She's right in the eighth precinct and available and ready for you. I will share a number for you if you're ready to copy. Please. If you're not impacted, if you know somebody who's impacted, please give her miss him or her Miss Megan Davis' numbers so she can help curtail this domestic violence again. Her name is Megan Davis. She works right at the eighth precinct. Her phone number is 313-596-5825,

again, 313-596-5825,

and her cell phone number is 3138331, 138331660,

that's Miss Megan Davis, the A, B, i, s, you got some amazing tools in her ability. We also have the brother pill program. You told me talk about the cease fire program for my targeted enforcement on Seven Mile. But they will pivot. They also have a program where they pick up at risk or high, high risk youth, and they spend time with them. They mentor right in this building. As a matter of fact, they come to the corona center. They teach them how to box. They teach them how to play basketball. They have partnerships where they teach them how to be better citizens, how to how to invest. They teach them about education. It's all about the giving them an opportunity or chance to succeed. That's a very good program. I have some NPO led programs where they do a lot of things with our citizens, and they do a lot of things with our youth. Like, for instance, our trunk or treat is the best in the city. I'm going to tell you that so and also last but certainly at least our command staff, me and Captain Bray, we stay uniquely available. We stay inaccessible. I always try to come to each and every and every and I remember when I first came here and I'm gonna get off my soap box, my NPOs, they said you cannot make every community event. And they're right at first, I didn't believe them, but I can tell you, I'm probably betting about 85% so I am very uniquely acceptable. I don't care if it's two citizens there to 25 I am there or my captain brace as well. So last but not certainly not least, we have our CVI group. And I'll take this right off the internet, because I don't want to misquote but our CVI stands for community violence intervention program. We have two of them in the eighth precinct. The CVI uses evidence based, community driven strategies to prevent and interrupt violence established by relationships with people involved in or affected by violence crime in the community, and we have a unique relationship and a partnership. We also have a common goal of reducing violent crime in the eighth precinct. It works very well. I'll give you just three quick snippets of what they do. I can tell you we have the People's Action. They are in our northern part of our precinct. Very proud of them. We work very, very well together. Vu n edges, Vu, he has literally town hall meetings where we sit down, very much like this. It's like a community meeting. And he gives informational sessions as well. I can tell you the last one we went to, I went to, I go, not in uniform, I go as a citizen. So I can hear, I can hear from a different perspective. So I can see how we can help reduce violence in the community from a different perspective. But I go in plain clothes. And the last one I went to at the town hall meeting, it was actually at a children's daycare. He had one of the members of the Black Panthers who were there telling how the Detroit Police now kind of partnerships with them, versus how it was back when he came up. So it was a very it was very powerful. Is enlightening for me as well. They have an adoptive block, and they told me he's going to have a anti violence basketball tournament, and I'm trying to get the police in there too so we can win with that. We also have Detroit 300 they're unique. They're actually out on patrol. They let you know who they are. They got their signs on the board. They don't do they're not they have some covert operations, but they are uniquely aware in there. They have community education events as well, like the domestic violence prevention and everything, and they also, he have immediate impact programs, like, for example, last night he called me on my phone, Mr. Eric Ford. He's in charge of Detroit 300 he was going to partner with the Detroit Police Department to go find a missing he said, Hey, I want to help. This is what's going on. So I gave him the information he needed. I put him in touch with the missing person unit. Person unit. I'm closing out. I can tell you that we also address quality of life issues. I'm going to go still take a take a phrase from my my chief of police. He said he's an person. So we're doing we're doing the violent crimes, and we're addressing quality of life issues. And we do that through See, click Fix my neighborhood police officers. They work extremely hard to keep our C click Fix 10 to two, and we appreciate them for that and last and all. And I keep saying this last but not least, but I actually promised this time this will be the last but not least. We have access to the James take Community Access Center for Community. Yeah, excuse me for community events right now. College Park is holding their community holding their community meeting there, so it's available. Give us a call. We love to have you come over to number, call my admin, my admin, and she'll get you in at 31359658103135965810,

and with that, I will take any questions that you may have for me or the eighth precinct.

Thank you very kindly. Commissioner Moore, thank

you, Mr. Chairman, it's always good seeing your commander in the eighth precinct, family, civilian and police. My question deals with the 30 series. Can you explain to the community what the 30 series is at the eighth precinct?

Sure. Well, 30 series is what I did when I was in when I was in AIDS Free about 20 years ago. But what we have now is we have special operations. So our special operations are the the officers I mentioned, Lieutenant ransom Williams in the back. Those are our officers that you see who they have on the black shirt and the green pants, and they are responsible for policing violent offenders in the eighth precinct. They lead our restore orders twice a week, and we really rely on them to impact violent crimes, to make people make different decisions. They're doing an awesome job. Year to day, we have confiscated over 210 guns.

Okay, um, have you received any type of complaints against the 30

series? I have received complaints against my special operations, yes. I mean,

generally speaking, can you say what they are? Because I was going to mention something, you want me to just mention it or Sure? That would be easier. Okay, be easier anything for you. Commander. Okay, so citizens at gas stations, specifically young black males, are at gas stations, and it appears that they're being targeted without any probable cause. They're being run up on by 30 series, and not just eighth precinct. I just heard it a lot at the eighth precinct, and that, without a cause, they just patting them down. Where's the gun? Where's the gun at? Or if they're pulling them over on a traffic stop, they're using articulate words, like I saw heavy breathing, as if I was scared of the police and to obtain a gun, which eventually comes out of the situation. Have you heard about anything like that?

So yes, but no, I'll say that was very, very general. And sometimes they do some, but I can tell you the one I when I saw I was watching body worn camera. I did get a complaint, as a matter of fact, a very a person. I won't name today, but he was very, he was very hot. He caught a lot of people, and I actually had to sit down with him. So in this instance, the guy was walking down the street, and on body worn camera, I was actually able to see the the weapon it was, it was hanging out his pocket. They asked the guy if he had a CPL, and those would be my expectations. That's how you keep guns up. That's the

situation I brought to you. That is the situation.

So we talked about it. We have very candid conversations. And everything is, I can tell you this, and we preach this. Everything that you looking for that I expect, they're on body one camera, so if they're abiding by the rules and regulations of the department, they're activating their camera sometime. They're not happy if they're doing what's right, we're going to uplift them if they're doing what's wrong. I'm going to hold them accountable to the standards of the standards of the Detroit Police

Department. Thank you,

Commander. Yeah, what my struggle is is that if you if a person is open carrying versus CPL holder, you know, because of the laws you know, and we went through that, you know, that's what I struggled with. We had to get through it. Residents need to understand what open carrying is, and I think it should be more of a campaign out there. Maybe we could work together with the department to come up with a strong public service campaign to educate the public on what is open carry. Was not open carry. Because if you got the butts showing you think you open and carrying a open carrying, you know, that's and then when you transporting the weapon, it has to be the the bullets have to be out, you know, one had to be in a glove box. One had to be in the trunk all that type of stuff. And a lot of innocent citizens, citizens who are being criminalized. You know, thank God that 36 District Court is creating programs to be able to help some of them. But a lot of folks is getting caught and afraid, and so I would like to see us work hard, you know. Maybe that could be a signature piece for you, Commissioner Moore for us, so that we can educate the public more and more about that, because that's vitally important, you know. And then, you know, CPL is CPL, you know. But the open carry law gets a lot of folks every year, not only just in the city of Detroit, but throughout the state of Michigan. And Mr.

Chairman, I don't want to misconstrue what you're saying and what the commanders saying for officers sitting at a gas station stationary and just seeing somebody walk up and patting them down. So it's two different things. I agree with what both of you are saying, but I'm talking about this Thursday for

some trouble. Here is what you're saying that part. Yeah, you know, you know, we're not intentionally trying to just find someone to criminal. You know, you gotta deal with the with crime. But in the same token, if you're targeting folks at gas stations, you know, there's some that's a robust conversation to have. Yeah, yep, I have

a couple of comments. But the first is, when you define for our audience here today, or or or a commander parish, either one of you, exactly what open carry is in Michigan. I know that you can carry your rifle on your back, on a motorcycle. You can you can't have a T shirt hanging over your gun and your belt if you have on a wife beater type shirt and it's tucked in, then your gun can show that's open carry or or an assault button. You can carry guns. But can you explain it for our audience, so they'll get it from the police. I

can speak to it at a very high level. Open carry is just as it sounds. You are carrying your gun out in the open with no effort to conceal it. Now, at what point does a little bit of coverage become enough to trigger the CCW laws? That's a very case by case fact specific analysis that we refer to the prosecutors. So it's very hard to give direction. But if you are going to open carry, make sure your gun is fully exposed, okay, not partially hidden, not partially concealed. Make sure it is fully fully exposed, because that is the only way that I can tell you that you will avoid a CCW charge with certainty. But the chairman also made something very clear, understand that if you happen to get into a vehicle, that open carry will now become CCW motor vehicle. So if you have plans on getting into a vehicle from an open carry situation, then stepping into a vehicle, you've got to take the firearm out, you've got to unload it, you've got to secure the ammunition in the glove box, preferably secure the gun so that it as far as away, a far, excuse me, as far away from the ammunition as possible. Preferably the trunk. But if you don't have a trunk in your vehicle, as far away from the gun as possible, so in the very back, depending on how your gun is set up, your car is set up, excuse me, so that is the best description that I can afford at this time. But what

happens when people are getting on the bus? A man talked to me about it. He had a t shirt, you know, just a plain, regular t shirt, and he had his belt, his gun, and his belt and the t shirt. As he was getting on the bus, getting his money and putting it in, thing you could see. I mean, the gun was there. I mean, so again,

you can see an outline of a gun, and it's still my trigger, the CCW laws. Again, it's very case by case fact specific. The best advice that I can give citizens, because I don't want to see anybody inadvertently, you know, needlessly, charged with a felony crime in Michigan, if you are carrying a weapon, make sure it is fully exposed and stay out of vehicles unless you plan on transporting it in a way that is consistent with Michigan law. So I would even advise people don't take the chance of even getting on a bus, because you're technically entering a vehicle, and there's no bus exception that I'm aware of to the CCW laws. So best advice I can give make sure it's fully exposed and stay out of vehicles, unless you're going to transport it in accordance with Michigan

law. Houses help you. I mean, the houses, whatever those things are, yeah, pistol carrier for your

Yeah. So is, again, I strongly suggest that a some type of public service announcement be flooded out there, because, again, I know a number of folks who have gotten caught up in that. I've I've gotten calls, numerous calls, you know, for on this particular issue, and we need to protect citizens from this, especially well intended citizens from this. But thank you very kindly. And I appreciate your report and appreciate all the work that you do. I

just want to thank you for acknowledging your staff before you started your presentation. That's unusual, and it shows what a good manager and what a good leader you are. And also congratulations, obviously, on your crime stats, which is very, very significant, and a 30% reduction. Thank

you, ma'am. Through the Chair. I'm sorry I did miss MPO COVID.

Hey, that's right. All right. Thank you guys for your service. Yes, I have a question for the commander. Yes. Thank you,

Commander,

great presentation, by the way.

I want to ask you about what you know the month of May is Mental Health Awareness Month. What are, what actions are you all taking in the a pre sent on addressing mental health, what numbers to you know, to report out on how to educate the community more effectively, how they can get involved and you know, but also, do you all have any I'm pretty sure that now the precinct level Has social workers. But are those social workers going out on some of those mental health runs. It was something that, you know, Commissioner Carter myself, and you know, addressed years ago. I want to say, go back to 2014 when we learned that Kansas City had a pilot program where they had social workers going out on mental health runs or something. It was something that we was trying to advocate, to come, you know, to Detroit, but, but just like to know, what are your precinct doing and, and, and, and how many calls for service are y'all receiving in mental health and, and has there's been any change in those numbers from last year to this year? I know you probably can't answer all of those questions today, but you know, just wanted to hear from you about that, since this is Mental Health Awareness Month,

yes, sir. So through the chair is this was actually part of my my presentation, but in essence the time, because I kept telling you, this is last final one, I kind of left it out. However, we do have the crisis intervention team. We have a dedicated car, which actually my son works in one of them for the precinct at all times. So we are as first responders, or we do respond to the runs. However, if there we have a mental crisis intervention team car available, they will respond for us. I don't have the exact numbers, but we are partnered, and we do. We are very aware of our mental health crisis issues, so I'll get, I can get the exact numbers for you to compare them to you, but I don't have that today, but there are a part of our partnership in our community engagement, because they are very important.

Sure. I just want to just make a quick correction. That's what we that's what we that's what Commissioner Carter myself and Commissioner Bill learned in 2014 when we were when we were at a Nicole meeting, and that was the year we were in Kansas City, and we learned how Minneapolis has stepped up, and in regards to that, and how they was making some different changes. We also learned over the years that other cities have stepped up and and, you know, in regards to, you know, put more help out there, in regards to helping the community, you know, become more aware and things of that nature here in the in Michigan, we realized that England closed a number of facilities and and it makes it, you know, it really makes it harder on, on the Detroit community and surrounding communities.

I think that was an excellent point Commissioner. And even on yesterday, during the walk them out Wednesday, the former chief White, who is now over mental health and substance abuse for Wayne County, had mobile units out there for the community, and has invited everyone who all the communities who have a need for this mobile unit, To come out, they will be housed with mental health professionals, dental assistants, and have a nurse on these mobile units as well. And so you can go on the Detroit Wayne Integrated Health Network website to be able to access that. And they said that unit will pull up on you in any community event as well. So two of the mobile units was out on yesterday, and I was, I was happy to see them out there. In fact, I was riding around with them a little bit. I sit on their board as well, you know. So definitely appreciate that question. Commissioner, that was a great question, and reach out to CEO white and get the unit over there, free, free dental free, nurses and mental health professionals on these units, brand new units, and they will pull up on you. Detroit Wayne Integrated Health Network, and that's open to for everybody in the community. You have community groups that you need to access, that tap into that.

Moving on this, yes, sir,

real quick through the commander. When you get those numbers, can you please email those to the commissioners office so we can all take a look at those?

Yes, sir, thank you. Thank you very kindly. Oral Communication.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Our first speaker will be Miss Virginia. Emmanuel

ms Williams,

hello. How you doing? Are you doing is, Are you the community person for over here? Is the community person here for the eighth precinct? I'm looking right at her. When we finish oral communication, I want to make sure you I apologize. I want you to greet the everyone. Thank you for allowing us here, and we appreciate you. I'm sorry I overlooked that it was wasn't on my agenda so but thank you so much. Yep,

good evening. My name is Virginia Emmanuel. I've developed spasms, so please

bear with me? Yes, ma'am, I've

been a nurse 30 years.

I teach. I teach. 20 years. I have five degrees. I'm up in age, but I got my last degree at 53 Carrie of 3.8 average. Now I'm not saying this to brag. Why can't we lead by example? Many of our children are not being educated, and they look at us. I have talked at seven places. I was here red bird Community Center, the village of Redford, Mr. Bird caped my class, the mayor, oh, nails came, but I notice here they don't want to come. I'm trying to slow the progression of Alzheimer's. Alzheimer's kills. There's no cure, and it's devastating. What I do is refresh, math, spelling, reading, writing, art, a lot of black history. Teach piano, even giving away keyboard. Why don't they come?

I am at the

Northwest activity center. I've been moved from my classroom five times that causes my students to leave. They will come to the front desk and ask where I am, and they say they don't know. So they leave, I need help in order to help others, I'm on a mission. Love thy neighbor as thyself. Amen,

right? Yes, ma'am, help

me. Don't just let most of you don't know your math, don't know how to spell, don't know how to write letter, but you won't come. You won't come. You'll come and eat, eat, eat, but nothing up here that is destroying us, amen, but lack of knowledge and we are not dumb. We have a rich history. We have such a rich history, let's keep it going. Help the seniors. Help the young people. Please come Northwest activity center every Tuesday, one o'clock until three room one, my father gave me strength and encouragement. He came up from down south, got into Fort, stole cars and became the Public Safety Commissioner for many years, my mother went back to school after four children, became a nurse. That's where I got my encouragement, and I'm not giving it up or anybody. I may only have so many years left, but I'm on a mission. Help me come to the northwest activity center one o'clock room one, or the village of Redford every Friday, Northwest is every Tuesday. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you.

She did share some of the community reports. So that's all that was. No we we'll finish with public comments, and then we'll come to you.

Hello, everyone.

424, 925, when you guys was given out, when motions was given out. Somehow two names was withheld, and normally that's not the case, and I wanted to know why, because I've been coming to these meetings over two years, and when you give out promotions, their names are to be mentioned, it's like you guys intentionally did not mention these two officers. But like I said, accountability and transparency. And I'm so happy that you mentioned mental illness. Everyone in this room that have a badge or Tucker of any type of association dealing with Detroit police officers. And this is for since the commander is here from the a priest. And the question is, for you, Commander, how do you feel about officers that work at your precinct, that live in shelters and taking up bed spaces, come to work and conceal that they stay in shelters on the busses, and like I said, I'm not following no one. I catch the bus, not by choice. I haven't been on the bus in 30 years, but I get around because I have to. And I'm speaking about the people and the justice and humanity that's going on, and how it's always an excuse about officers living in these facilities, taking up bed spaces, and they're all over the city, all 12 precincts, and everybody always have some type of excuse, like is not going on. These shelters are for the homeless people who do not have the means to pay rent, not ones who got paid $3,000 to live in Detroit and starting off at 55,000 a year. Thank you very much, and you have a great day.

Thank you. Next speaker.

Our next speaker is

m clue, and then Dr, Gordon, hi. My name is Lisa Michael, and the rest of my time, Ms Gordon,

you Hi. I'm proud that this commander say that what he do, because the seventh precinct commander I've been trying to get in touch with for a week and a half and not return my call, but

I'm gonna play some of this.

Yeah, he did

specialized training. You.

Her, okay? He's like, Oh, if some of y'all write y'all reports where the prosecutor will approve it, you know, that was me, right. Absolutely not

somebody went over and pushed her her

wheelbarrow. He ate a little sidewalk, damaged her property, and she's running.

I've seen every angle you sent me. I angle you sent me. Hey, listen,

I'm going to say about that, that she's talking about I got videos, and this what they was talking among themselves, how they dog me out. Wanted to know, why haven't nobody burnt my home down? Why nobody helped beat my ass? These detectives, Clark and Walker, and it was two other detectives. I don't know the other one named but I know her voice. They talked about why nobody have destroyed my home, that I have been messing with people in the neighborhood. I'm the one with the video footage. I'm the one that can show how I've been harassed, not just by the neighbors, but by the seven precinct. I'm scared to go down there. How can I go to the seven precinct when they talking about me like this? This is eight minutes of them dogging me out. You know, I'm called the mayor office, and I said, What should I do? And the guy said, give the commander a check. I called the Seven precinct, like I said a week and a half ago, and still today, I haven't received a call. I have been harassed by the seven priests. I told God downtown the seventh precinct was harassing me. I told you letters that they put on two of my homes, and then the letters that I told y'all about, they mailed me two more to say the same thing, to harass me. I got documentation to show the people across the street wrote bogus police report. You know what? He thought it was a joke. Vote, tell the prosecutor. I said, Then, what is your job? I got that on recording too. What is his job? It's to make fun of me. They said I was crazy. I'm not crazy. Everything they said, which I can't play, because it's so long that they study, dogged me out, and everything they have, I got a recorder to show you that they lied on me. Why these detectives, not just police officers, but the police officers. He said they could look at the body cam. I told y'all, look at the police body cam. It'll show that they set up and wrote them letters, because I call it a cult, because the police, because the black club, decide they want me to leave my home, that they want to intimidate me to move. And then now the police that detected them feel the same way. This man said he came out to my house. He took pictures all around my house. He said she didn't have a camera on the side to show that the thing broke my window, my screen the other day. He's a detective. If he had a look, I got a camera right there. That's how good a detective he is okay. See that camera sitting?

Okay. Thank you, ma'am. Well, excuse me, excuse me, excuse me. Let me answer that for you, Deputy Chief, can you have this situation looked into and investigated through the excuse if there is a threat, because I'm hearing you said your house was threatened. Was it threatened to be blown up by police officers?

They just set my house on fire, and they are

you alleged? Are you alleging that, that, that the detective said that I'm not glad you want to hear it. Well, I was, I don't I That ain't what I'm we doing right now? Are you alleging that that's what you're saying? They say. They wonder. Why not? Okay, so from if you saying that, Excuse me, ma'am, excuse me. Okay, excuse me. You

know why? Because I'm doing it right? I'm calling the police. They cared about property. I'm calling the police. I don't I don't go over to their house and care affairs. My property is the only one being tore up. And I got video after video, and the police ain't doing nothing. They attacking me with them because they was with the with that black plug,

okay, I don't leave my home. So you're, you're, you can file a complaint with the officer, chief investigator, with, but, but, okay,

excuse me. Now.

Up 45 days. This was last year. So

you follow complaint with us? Okay, yes, ma'am. So with your legend, here for me.

They want me to sell my family home because she said to please, visually do something to you. Ain't nobody, Deputy

Chief, can we have that too?

If that's and please get her name and follow up. Oh, Jess, no, we want you to get whatever is justice. We want you to have justice if, if that's what with what everything's for, Ma'am. Ma'am, listen. Officer

is going to take all of your information. You have our commitment. We'll look into everything that you're saying,

and our investigator will get her information and follow up with her complaint as well.

Thank you, Tiffany, yep. Officer

Nelson, thank you.

Okay, all right, next speaker, thank you, Mr. Chair. Our next speaker is Victoria Camille, Minister, Eric blunt, Scotty Bowman and Mr. Smith, and then we'll go on to zoom

Yes, ma'am.

Good evening commissioners, working. Can

you all hear through this? Louder?

This is not working well. I just want you to know that. Yeah, we can hear you. Good evening commissioners. My name is Victoria Camille, district seven. Before I get into what I want to talk about today, I do want to thank Commissioner Moore for lifting the targeting at the gas stations, because I have a personal example of that. My own son being targeted at a police station, I'm sorry, at a gas station and asked if he was accused of are we should I pause my comment?

I appreciate

so. He was approached by a police officer and accused of having a gun on him. My son has never carried a gun, except not that. He's in the military serving our country, and he didn't have anything bulky on him that would even appear to be a gun. And he called me very shaken up that he had been approached by the police, and they were like, Yeah, you got one, you know, you got a gun. So I just want to say that, to say that those things do really happen for sure. So on to what I wanted to speak about. So I did want to get an update on the complaint that I filed number 79425, that was a complaint of allegations of DPD failing to follow department procedure and policy, as well as misconduct resulting in the killing of Sherman Lee Butler. And so I would like an update on that outstanding complaint. The other is not sure if the board is aware of a program called 287, G, which allows ice to delegate certain immigration enforcement duties to the local police departments. We have four departments in Michigan who have signed on to these programs so far. Berean County Sheriff Department, Calhoun County Sheriff Department, Jackson County Sheriff Department, and Taylor Police Department recently signed on as well. So I would like to know if you are aware of DPD considering signing on to 280 7g and if at any point, DPD does pursue this program, the matter should be brought here, before the board and discussed in the public forum, since the it will result in changes in the policies that the DPD follows and requires approval from the board in an open meeting. Lastly, I should not involve our local police department in immigration enforcement. Anyway, we have complaints from citizens about concerns with traffic such as running red lights and speeding. DPD recently picked up providing security on the bus system, and there have been complaints about delays and investigations and not following up with citizens about their investigations. Our police department has enough to do, and ice can do what they need to do. In regards to immigration. They should not be involving our local police department in those matters. Thank you.

Thank you very kindly.

Next speaker, I just want to congratulate you on your on your son. He's a young naval officer. Ladies and gentlemen, from Detroit, from Detroit public high schools, he graduated. He joined the Navy. He's in Carolina, isn't he? You

don't want to speak on our son publicly, you know this, and I'm sorry for that. Yeah, yeah, go ahead. Good afternoon.

Board. I'm Minister Eric blunt from Sacred Heart Catholic church right here in Detroit.

What happened to miss Camille's son

has been created by this board. For those of you that don't know, this Board was created to address police officer misconduct. But Chairman woods, you sit there and let the police department and the precinct talk about crime, this crime, that crime, this crime that the issue before you, what you are charged to do is to address police officer misconduct. So ask the chief office about police officer misconduct. How many have been suspended for? How long did they serve their full term? Did they get their back pay, as 99% of them do. So this policy stuff, they don't care they violated. They get suspended. They get the money back, you know, so what big, big deal? And I say this because, as you sit here today, you know that over the last five years, citizen complaints about the police department conduct has doubled in the last five years, but yet you want to talk about crime and and carjacking, but yet you hijack the meeting and the purpose of this meeting, and that should be as criminal as carjacking. The precinct talked about addressing high risk youth. How about high risk police officers? What detection system do you have for detecting whether or not a police officer is headed toward misconduct? But no, no, no. Talk about that at all. One other point, the community must know the police have a right to lie to you at a police stop. How sick is this system? They can't lie when you go to court, so you gotta have a lawyer, but they can lie and manipulate the situation when they are stopping you for a police stop. Lastly, Commissioner Bernard, I do not admire anything about you. I am only horrified at your actions here on this board, thank you.

Your obsession.

You should buy me that perfume. Yeah,

yeah, yes, sir, you may be heard.

Yeah. Hi. I'm Scotty Bowman, the founder of Detroit residents advancing civilian oversight and elected member of community advisory council in District Four. I'm, first of all, I want to thank Deputy Chief Parrish for helping to facilitate the meeting regarding First Amendment handling. Handling First Amendment matters in policy. But I one thing that did come up in those discussions was the idea that some ideas that would have been good ideas, if they were practical, were not written in and the reasoning being that we did not have sufficient staff necessarily to handle some of the procedures that would be involved in some cases. And I think I see a thing here regarding staffing, it's apparently a problem with staffing, not just in not having enough police officers to be more thorough, in having a plan of action, for instance, ahead of certain events like large protests, but also having sufficient investigators in the chief investigator office to handle complaints against officers, and the more officers you have. Well, I mean, it's sad to say, but it's simply a fact that you are probably going to end up with more complaints because there's more people for the public to complain about, and you need to be able to investigate those complaints, or else it's kind of like defeats the purpose of even having an OCI. So we need to have both levels. Need to be staffed better, as we think it sounds like to me. We need more officers. We also need more OCI, more investigators on duty there to investigate those cases of complaints. Another thing I noticed is when I was walking out of that meeting, and everyone was pretty much gone. This man's walking up to me in a parking lot, and I'm like, Okay, what's going on? And I'm gonna help you? And he's like, Well, yeah, I need to be able to get some help. I'm homeless, and I the according to what you know, the mayor and the chief who was supposed to be able to stop by any precinct to get help. And I'm like, Well, this is headquarters, but I don't know. Maybe someone's at the lobby. Maybe not. Like, nope, no one's answering. And so I guess one thought is, I mean, I know the difference between a precinct office and the headquarters, but it would seem, I think most people would assume that if there's certain help available at any precinct, they I think most people would assume that if you go to the headquarters, that same help would be available. And I think something needs to be addressed to something needs to be done to address that, because it's an expectation. People have been giving through the news, watching TV and hearing this, and, you know, hearing about now it was a warm day, so he's not going to freeze to death or anything, but hearing about the fact that if people really need shelter, that somehow the you know, they can get it by first stopping by a police precinct, that we need to have somebody present, at least answering the door at the headquarters if you're going to make that kind of overture, Okay, that's it. Thank you. Thank you very kindly. You

good afternoon, good afternoon. I just want to say, I walk it like I talk it when it comes to community organized, when it comes to accountability work, I'll be working on finding missing young people and adults with the department by will or by not, I'm going to go to the chief. I have a meeting coming on Monday, so anybody who would like to help can assist, if not, you know, it's okay. Even commissioners. Also want to say I probably filed the most civilian complaints against officers because I do something called cop watches, which is when you record traffic stops from a safe and reasonable distance, which is all about accountability and transparency, and I've been targeted, especially in the seventh precinct, to hear elder talk about her experiences at seven precinct is very, very traumatic. I almost said it's here and about her experience. And I've had similar bad experiences with detectives, officers, supervisor, sergeants, lieutenants, not really a captain, but all the way up, which is very, very sad. I want to say no commander should be able to manage their child. That's a direct conflict of interest, if you ask me, that no offense to anybody, but that shouldn't be able to happen. There's an inherent thing that you have when you have a nepotism relationship with somebody that you manage. Also under Chief white the CCW arrest went up 200% which is by choice. It was not an accident to go up 200% in CCW arrest, also the Jameson Williams stop. It should teach you that officers don't understand a reasonable thing about property versus on a person. If something is found in the vehicle with somebody, if it's not on their person, it is not responsible to you. Can't just pin it on somebody like you want to and say you're going to arrest somebody and make a somebody and make a scandal out of it. I also wanna say Robert Olive is running for board of police commissioners, to my knowledge, and that man is an abuser. He has an active case for breaking and entering against one of my friends, and anybody who supports him is supporting and insulating an abuser. Also wanna say, to be able to have that much pool to fight an open case in court and run for board of police commissioners who's going to be over oversight of the police department? That's ridiculous. That shouldn't ever be able to happen. Um, what else? Also, body body cams and 99% body cams. 99% compliance is also a problem. I've seen commander Johnson on New Year's Day 2025 at a protest with a body cam not rolling. I have a lot of experience with body cams. His body cam was not rolling. You can have a body cam on if it's not rolling, does it capture any footage? Any video? No. So to just have it on is not a not good. You want to have it rolling, because if it's not rolling, it's not capturing anything. And this is a commander at the seventh precinct, and he even put his body camera in another officer's camera just showed it was recording and it was not recording. All right,

thank you. Next speaker, Mr. Chair, we're going to go into zoom. Our first speaker is Patricia Montgomery. Our next speaker, excuse me, will be Mr. Ru

um, good afternoon or good evening. This is good evening. This is Patricia Montgomery. I am a grandmother of two granddaughters that live near the ninth precinct. I've been getting harassed relentlessly by a neighbor. I've been arrested twice. The first time, I was taking a picture of someone that was standing on a porch with a long kitchen knife, and the lady went and told the police that I had a gun that I was lawfully allowed to carry, but was in my house and not in my car. I was arrested. Took the court, thankfully, in less than five minutes, the jury saw that there was nothing there. The second time I was arrested, it was after I the lady was served PPO papers. Then she called the police and said that I tried to run her over with my car. The police came to my house. They injured my arm. I was later let go with no charges. But as of today, I still don't have use of my right arm. I have videos of every incident. I've still been stopped. I've been harassed. This has been going on for four years. I've made 17 police reports, and I've also had filed two complaints with the Office of Chief, chief investigator. As of yesterday morning, the their kids are coming into my property. They're destroying my property. Um, yesterday morning, they ripped off the back of my windshield on my car, and I've been trying to get help from the ninth precinct. They're not doing anything to help me. My granddaughters can't even walk out the house without them calling them derogatory names. They are four and nine. I just need help. Can

you freeze her? Okay, keep rolling. Can you stay on? Make sure that we have the information. We can forward that information to the Department, and we asking that the department give us response as within a week on what her complaints are, and then make sure that someone from OCI let her know where her complaints that with us,

Miss, Miss Montgomery, if you can, please stay on The line, and I'll get right back with you after public comments. Yes, I will. Thank you.

We're going to go to

Mr. Ru, and

that's Mr. Ru, aka Mr. Real. Everybody within earshot, everybody listening, pay close attention. In 2023 November, I caught Janice Winfrey and Gina Avery Walker cheating in Detroit. Elections commander

Detroit, you know me,

Miss Linda Bernard, what the Reverend said about to I applaud and commend him for saying it and putting it on front, whether he is obsessive or not, your fraud. Willie Bell, I told you I was different.

You stood in the way. Now you gotta get out the way.

Just now, before this meeting started, I got a call from the homicide unit, a lieutenant since for the past two weeks, there's been 12 occasions that have been hung up on at the 596226, number. That's the homicide unit for the Detroit Police Department now, Darryl woods and Tamara Liberty Smith, listen closely. Y'all been cheating in and the elected officials here in the city of Detroit and appointed officials by the mayor, who's been cheated in as well. Now Darryl woods and Tamara Liberty Smith, I told y'all, Kenisha didn't shoot herself. Now I'm getting ready to demonstrate it to everybody. Nimi asked that y'all stop saying her mama killed herself. Y'all didn't want to do it. So now I'm going to take it. That's right, that's your I said I'm going to take it. And if you know anything about me, my word is my bond. So there was you a fraud and tama, I don't know what to say about what you did, but it is what it is.

That's the end of our public comments, sir, does it okay?

What is next is, I think the Secretary report, no, no, excuse me, our community leader. Thank you so much for your patience. Miss. Gail Tubbs, the phenomenal Gail Tubbs,

come on, give her a hand. Can

you hear me? So first of all, I do want to acknowledge the woman that was up here that was quite emotional. And I will say that I could feel that she was so, I mean, it hurt her to her core. So for that, I I say that I pray that we will have work towards a resolution for whatever that might be, because it does sound like something's going on with the block club. Having said that, what I will say as I represent the eighth this eighth precinct Community Relations Council, I will say that is hard work, because we really Elementary and we working towards bigger and better things. But most importantly, we're working on partnership and collaboration. What I will say with the officers at the eighth precinct, and I'm talking from our commander to our captain all the way down, I got to say, from my heart and from the heart, from my council, we appreciate each and every one of you. I have never been around a bunch of people who, on a drop of a dime, will come out and come to a meeting with a day's notice, like I'll be there to come out and represent our district. I can't tell you how much I'm so proud of their collaboration and partnership with our councilman, Councilman Tate, our commander comes to every last one of those satellite hours every other week to report out what is being done and to hear from the community if they have any issues, he will take them aside and do that to our crisis intervention team that have been going strong for some years. I don't know why people don't know. We know that go out and actively try to, you know, deflate issues before they can get violent. We thank them. We will have a police luncheon that we will celebrate and feed the mess out of our 160 officers. Lot of them eat double dip. Y'all come in, leave and then come back. It's okay we make sure that we have enough food for you all. That's the least we can do for our officers. Speaking about the Detroit D when Wayne integrated health network and our beloved former Chief of Police, who is now CEO my organization, O'Hare Park, has met with him. He plans to do the walk a mile in our community once he gets the Seven Mile behavioral is another word in the Behavioral Health Health Campus, but is right there on the corner of seven mile in Greenville. Absolutely that the is working on right now. Actually, they are doing construction. I can't give you a end date. I'd love to say 2026 fall, but it might even fall into spring of 2027

which our community,

we were asked to come in and be a part of all of that discussion, and so I got to say that I think we've been blessed here in the eighth precinct. My community has been blessed by the people who are willing to support all of us for the people there that complain about the seventh precinct. I'm really, truly sorry that you've had a bad experience. I will tell you that's not every experience. I will ask you to just pray, because there is hope. I will always root for hope for all of our citizens in Detroit. Oh, I'm I'm district one chapter. I'm district one down. Baby point of

order, sir. Baby point of order.

Point of order, sir. Name is,

you get removed out this meeting. If you can't, you're going to be disruptive.

Point order. All

I'm saying is I'm acknowledging that you guys have had some issues, and I just want, want to say I'm a half full person. Anyway. I'm a hugger. So for me, I concentrate on what can be done in the future. There's obvious problems. We gonna have problems. We've been had problems. However, if people can get together in a room and decide, make a decision, we going to do better, then there's always going to be hope. As far as I'm concerned. So again, I acknowledge that you guys have been going through some stuff, and I'm praying that you guys get it. Other than that, that's all. I just always want to praise my my officers, come on,

give it all. Get a talk. All

because they are worthy of that. As far as them and community engagement, I gotta say a one number one, love them, and that's really all I've got to say. Thank you for being here in our in our community. Thank you,

Madam Secretary,

the report this evening includes the weekly facial recognition report, the Shot Spotter weekly report, as well as the memorandum from the personnel and training committee meeting of this week. The upcoming meetings are as follows. Our next board meeting is Thursday, May 15, 3pm at public safety headquarters, the June community meeting will be held in the seventh precinct at Sacred Heart activities, buildings, 5431, Rivard Street in Detroit. That's Thursday, June 12, 6:30pm upcoming committee meetings are on Friday, tomorrow, May 9, at 1:30pm personnel and training committee and the Woodward conference room at public safety headquarters next week, Tuesday, May 13, at 3pm is citizen complaints committee at headquarters at four o'clock PM, Budget Committee, which will also be in the woodwork conference room, as well as the policy committee at 5pm on Tuesday May 13 as well. And that ends the report for this evening.

Thank you. Very kindly. Unfinished business. I would like to entertain a motion accept the interview. To us to accept for interview the recommended name applicants for the position administrative assistant to the board of police commissioners, Louis every hand, Crystal fields, Jasmine, Horace espinaza on Dr Dior Mathis and Philip Tarver. So moved, moved by Commissioner Moore and second by Commissioner Bernard. In discussion, all in favor. Say, aye. Anyone opposed, a motion is carried. I'd like to entertain a motion for for interview the recommended name applicants for the position of administrative specialist, three to the board of police commissioners, Jerome Jackson's Dior Mathis, Candace, Roy, johnya Underwood and Jelani Yeager. Yeager, so move, moved by Commissioner Moore, second, second by Commissioner Bernard. Any discussion? All in favor? Say, aye. Aye. E in one opposed. The motion is carried. Is there any new business. There have been no new business, what is the pleasure. Motion to adjourn the motion to adjourn by Commissioner Moore. Second, by Commissioner bail, any discussion all in favor say aye. Anyone opposed. The motion is. carried this meeting is adjourned.