Yeah. And, you know, Kevin and I saw this from Sousa and we work together on some of these things and I think we kind of both saw that some of these things that people are talking about in fact some of the questions that are popping up in the in the chat mention a lack of creativity or a lack of imagination and, you know, I think this actually boils down to the, who is doing some of this stuff, and the leadership that's necessary so for me. What were two of the biggest things that, and we sort of touched on it in the commission report we did do a follow on white paper on this topic as well, is leadership and workforce. I know people consider workforce sort of a, you know, black sheep, kind of, you know, I don't know, Don Quixote style like you know tilting at windmills thing because there, there's a lot of a lot of efforts on it, and very little gets done but I honestly believe that if we want more creativity. If we want to think more like the adversary if we want to move away from the way in which we've been doing cybersecurity, we need to include more people, and a diverse view, different diverse views from different people who can think differently, right if we keep using if we keep doing what we've been doing. We will keep getting what we have been getting i mean it's it's a it's a trope because it's so true. The. We have a lack of diversity in the field we have very few people who come in it that aren't sort of like computer science like cybersecurity background we have only 20, something like 30% women in the field very few minorities. We just don't think kind of broadly we are not you know we we need to get a broader pipeline of people coming from a various different skill sets various different, you know, degrees that are, that need to be in cybersecurity it's not just the computer scientists that we need we need to be taking in people with communications degrees and policy degrees in international relations and everybody, everybody from those fields we also, I think, and on our street we're working on this, trying to educate groups that work with cybersecurity but don't really understand cybersecurity, such as, like, like, generally attorneys although obviously Canva. You are very well acquainted with cybersecurity, but I would argue that there needs to be more. I think there needs to be more of them more for attorneys more for judges more for business executives, so that we can, you know, change the culture around cybersecurity and that is where I think you're going to get big returns on your investment.