you know, Lucky good for them but like what about me and you start making this comparison but like we said, you can't be comparing your day one to somebody's day 10 or 100 or 1000, right or 10,000 Even so, it's it's one of those things if you want to make progress, the first thing you got to do is just jump and you know from the episode before when I talked about burning the boats, it's one of the biggest things you can do is just burn your plan B. Focus on Plan A put all your energy on one thing and grow it to them. X. And I understand a lot of us have other commitments, we maybe we have a nine to five, or maybe you have to, you know, pay rent. So you need that nine to five. And I totally understand all that. Right. So like this whole podcast thing is my side hustle, I spend every, every hour I can I spend on it. And once I've kind of built the team and built the system, I can work on more overview bird's eye view stuff on the podcast, right, growing the community, beyond other podcasts as a guest rather than a host being, you know, reaching out to more sponsors, things like that, where I can work on the business, not just in it, I am also the artist of this business in particular. So this is a very unique example. But I do believe artists and entrepreneurs are closely linked because it is, in a way, right, which is a whole nother topic. But in a way I do believe artists and entrepreneurs do find themselves in similar boats. And all that to be said is there's no such thing as effortlessness, everything takes a lot of effort. I love when people say, you know, bring up an idea like that. Yeah, that'd be really hard, though. And I'm like, Yeah, but what isn't? What isn't hard, right? Choose your life is hard. For one of two reasons. I used to say that quote all the time in this podcast, I still do. Life is hard for one of two reasons. You either are trying to get out of your comfort zone, or you stay in it. Because when you stay in it, life will get harder later on, because you realize that you missed your chance to go for your dreams. And the more time that goes by the less time you have for it, or energy or money or, you know, ability to commit versus if you write if you try now, try today, right burn the boats and jump. Well, that's also a different kind of hard it's stuff people don't always understand how I think I did an episode about how success is a lonely road. And that's one of many reasons is because people don't understand the struggle, the pain, the sacrifices it takes to get to somewhere, right? For me, for example, I, I do this podcast as much as I can. But my other dream is to be an entrepreneur, it's always been in my blood. I love business as a kid, as a kid I used to in the playground. So my family, you know, we didn't always we didn't always have money growing up. As a kid growing up, we were, you know, tight on cash and whatnot. So I never was used to asking for things or asking for toys or stuff like that I just never did because I just figured we wouldn't ever get them. That's just how it was. So I was always a very resourceful kid. I always. For example, I learned how to torrent and get like movies for free or mp3 songs for free and ebooks and all sorts of stuff. Jailbreaking back then oh, jailbreak the early days of iPod Touch or whatever and and when I finally got one at like the age of like 15, or something right back when was hard to get an Apple product, it was a really, you were seen as like super luxurious. If you had one at all, we would have those tiny little phones. And I know some of you know what I'm talking about either the flip phones or the little pom phones or tiny phones, right. So I eventually got an iPod Touch. I felt like so awesome. It felt so awesome to have one and jailbreak it and get a Spotify for free. I don't even know if it should be saying all this. But I would jailbreak and get Spotify for free and stuff like that. So I was always very resourceful, you know, maybe not the most ethical, but as a kid you do what you can to get what you need, right? And I never stole or anything. I mean, unless we're talking digital products in a way I guess I just incriminated myself slightly, but, you know, was harmless was the harmless stuff. I would never do anything super intense like that. But going back to the example I remember being in school, and this was back when I think I was in middle school or something and silly bands were huge. It was like the era of everybody wanting to trade silly bands and everybody buying silly bands. And what ended up happening for me was I you know, my parents, I just figured they would say no, with Twitch they usually did. So I I remember the way I went about it, which I did when I did the same tactic with Pokemon cards, with basketball cards with football cards. This is how I this is how I approached it as a kid, right? I'd go to the people that had a lot usually friends or somebody close to that I know you're more likely to get a yes from somebody you knew. But I also would ask people that I kind of vaguely knew, but you'd go to somebody that has a lot of cards that are a lot of silly bands, right? And let's take let's take one example. Let's let's let's just say my friend's name was parked Right, so let's say I went to this friend Parker, and I'm like, Hey, Parker, can I have? You have like 100 Silly bands? Can I have one silly band that you don't want? Or you have multiple of? That's what I would ask. Because being in those days, you'd have multiple of the same card or same silly band. It happened a lot. So that was my go to, and people just be like, Yeah, you know, once you when you have 100, and you're just like, whatever. It's like a charity case, right? You just get one out. And for me, it's a big deal, because now I have one. So then I would just keep doing that, like two or three more times different people. Next thing, you know, you have four or five, and then I would go and start trying to trade and what I would do, it was all about quantity over quality at that time, early on. So what I would do is, I'd be like, Hey, do you want this red elephant? Silly band? And they'd be like, yeah, it looks kind of cool. I'll take it. What do you want? And I'll be like, anything, man, I'll take your two worst silly bands. Or if they really wanted it, oh, negotiate be like, you'd sent them out. And you'd be like, okay, they he really liked it. So I want three of your worst ones or four of your worst silly bands. And when they have like 50 or 100, or even 30, right? They're the worst ones. You're asking for the worst ones that they have the least emotional attachment to them. The hardest trades are when you have the most emotional attachment to something, right? So like the tie dyed American Eagle, silly band, right? Or the or something really insane. Alright, so it's like, I'm asking for the worst ones, like, yeah, okay, let's do it. So give me like three, two or three. I kept doing that a few times. So you know, I'm at 20 Silly bands, and 30 Silly bands. And now I have some buying power. So I would go in and be like, some people come to me they see like, I'd have a, you know, a wrist full of silly bands. So they make what do you have? So let me I show them like, hey, I really liked that purple snake. So it's like, okay, you liked his purple snake. I like that tie dye elephant you got over there. But damn, I really liked that elephant, I don't know. It's okay. I'll give you the snake plus, and then I'll pick a worst one. And that's when you start trading for quality. Right? So I would start doing that I do a little bit of quantity, a little bit of quality trades back and forth. Next thing you know, I have this massive, amazing set of basketball cards or, or silly bands. And I did the same same process with basketball cards. I did eventually, my friend group right like the six of us, I started with nothing they gave me like handouts, of like, there were stuff. And eventually, by the end of that summer, four months later, I was trading with the same guys for things. Such as like I had cards like Larry Bird, Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, I had the best of the best, because I just kept doing stuff like that. And I never bought a single card ever, never bought a silly band never bought any cards. And I just kept doing stuff like that. And, you know, it's, it's this is all just to say that, when you start looking back at who you were, I think it starts to make a little bit clearer who you want to be, right, who you dreamed of as a kid and what your natural talents were. But all of this is to say that I am definitely an artist, many people if you ask, they'll say he's definitely an artist, you know, he likes art, he's got the aesthetic, I I love graphic design. As a kid I love drawing and painting and all sorts of stuff, right? So I do have that artistic side to me. But I also have that entrepreneurial blood in me. And this was the the whole tangent was for that. Right. So all that's to say is I have my goals. And I understand that, you know, as long as I need, I will keep my nine to five, but the ultimate goal is to replace my nine to five with a growing business, and then also build this podcast business. And those are my ultimate goals. I say all this because this stuff takes a years of planning, I've had this in the word works for the woodworks for a long time. So you know, you have to create your own visions, and then work backwards and create goals for those visions, and then steps for those goals.