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After 3 Years of Podcasting…An ode to the power of community.

Julie Confer33min

Unknown Speaker

00:01

Hey, I'm John.

Becky Endicott

00:02

And I'm Becky.

Jonathan McCoy

00:03

And this is the We Are For Good podcast.

Becky Endicott

00:06

Nonprofits are faced with more challenges to accomplish their missions and the growing pressure to do more, raise more and be more for the causes that improve our world.

Jonathan McCoy

00:15

We're here to learn with you from some of the best in the industry, bringing the most innovative ideas, inspirational stories, all to create an Impact Uprising.

Becky Endicott

00:23

So welcome to the good community, where Nonprofit Professionals, philanthropist world changers and rabid fans who are striving to bring a little more goodness into the world.

Jonathan McCoy

00:34

So let's get started.

Becky Endicott

00:36

Happy birthday, everybody.

Jonathan McCoy

00:39

Happy birthday. Oh, my gosh, this days here. Can you believe this three years of we're for good. Like what is happening?

Becky Endicott

00:45

Are we in the trying threes? I don't think we are I think we're like Aramis threes. Yeah, I know, guys. It's so exciting. I mean, it feels like the shortest and the longest three years of our lives. But my gosh, you guys are still here. When we turn on that podcast mic and we hit the record button three years ago, could never in our wildest dreams have thought that we would be sitting here today, surrounded by all of you having these evolve conversations, y'all. We're just gonna dive in and celebrate you today because we are celebrating community on our birthday.

Jonathan McCoy

01:21

Absolutely. It's like our favorite topic. And we have some huge takeaways. As we celebrate this birthday today, we want to just give you a little snapshot into our heads and our hearts of what we're seeing in this movement and the things that we're learning. But y'all, we also got a big surprise that we can't wait to share with you.

Becky Endicott

01:38

I've literally got my party popper here. That's how excited I am about this because it's been three years in the making. And today is the day.

Jonathan McCoy

01:47

Absolutely. And it's really serendipitous how community became like central to what we do, because I'll say it's always been part of our DNA. But I think we're for God's given us a ton of language and a ton of like belief in the power of it. And so I want to take us back. I mean, we're feeling a little reminisce and it's birthday times, you know, you get out the old photos, you dust these off. But I mean, I think back to when Becky Julie, myself, we were sitting in Becky's bonus room like the Barbie Dream houses in one corner, we're sitting on a couch. And we had jumped our jobs. And we're sitting there like, oh, my gosh, we started we're for good. And here we are. First day in the quote office, what are we going to do? And we sat down, and I remember as looking at our values, and these were like core to us, because they honestly came about through our work in nonprofit. And you've probably heard us maybe mention one or two of these, but don't feel like we talk about them all at the same time in any given moment. But these are like the bedrocks that we saw really work as fundraisers as people that we're trying to build movements. And it's the kind of the galvanizing things this is everything from like everyone matters to play the long game to cultivate and activate rabid fans, these like these mantras that we that we believe, and we saw work in our in our own work. And then we wanted to transport those over to we're for good. And so I remember thinking, as we're planning the podcast, we're like, okay, these have got to be central to what we do, it became like one of the first series that we talked through. So we'll link that up in the show notes if you want to hear our deep dive on each of those values. But something also happened that I think we could have seen coming but didn't expect is that when we see the values play out in other people's story, it's like magic in the podcast chair. It's like you hear it from people that are leading global movements, say things that we found to be true in our little Oklahoma City town here. And those are the moments that I'm like, man, there's something more to this. And so we talked about the seven values, and we were so proud of those seven values. We thought they were like this polished like plaque that we could like get printed or something. And then something happened. Do you remember this, Becky? Yes,

Becky Endicott

03:43

it was like 2am. I mean, let's take you back to We Are For Good. I mean, startups, y'all are no joke. And I don't know how much of the inception story that our audience knows. But we took on six clients concurrently, while we were launching, we're for good, we would work on those clients projects for already 40 hours a week. And then we would work on we're for good. So routinely had John and I doesn't the first 15 Please do not do this. But we did it for 15 months. And so we would routinely be up at 2am. And I remember it like 130 in the morning, I get this text from John. And it's like, wait, and anytime I get like a one word, like hold on or wait from John, I know I just sit there and wait because I know I'm gonna have to catch whatever's coming. And he says I think we missed a value. And I think we may have missed one of the most important ones that could be the bedrock. And he said I really think it's community is everything. Do you remember that like having that epiphany at 130 in the morning, where did that come from?

Jonathan McCoy

04:45

I think it's just early on. Not only in the conversations, I think there's two sides of community. I mean, there's the importance of like centering it in our work, from everything from nonprofit from how we fundraise to how we find solutions like community has to be at the core have that. But I think like we're for good. I think we saw people gather so quickly. And I'm like, they're absolutely the most important, important part of this story for us. And it's like, why would that not be the bedrock? Because we need that as people to as human just like we need each other? And I don't know, it just seemed right.

Becky Endicott

05:18

It totally seemed right. Because that's really is what this space is about. It's showing up, it's breaking through because people are finding each other. And right now we're seeing that you all are seeking out other safe places around the world. And the fact that this brand of this community means that, you know, you would relate to curious people, to kind people, to people who want to do good and chase generosity and curiosity. And so let's talk about community is everything. I mean, we've had 51 Plus episodes, in our catalogue that have community in the title. And if you search in our transcript platform, it lights up over 500 times we talk about community is core. And I have to say that I think I wasn't looking at our donors, our nonprofit community, our believers, our fans, John, when we were in house, I don't think I was looking at them as amplifiers, I think I was looking at them as investors. And once I started to make that shift, everything changed. For me.

Jonathan McCoy

06:22

I think what I love about this topic of community is that it is just central in so many podcasts episodes. We just you know if alluded to that, but I just think about, you know, one of the most formative interviews for us, I remember sitting down with Nancy Brinker, who is like, right, this incredible founder and iconic of the Susan G. Komen for the Cure. But I mean, her story is to me about community at its smallest level, not only just like the love of the sister, but like how do you wrap your friends and your support network and people around that cause and then you do that and community in cities around the world of what it's grown to be a think of, you know, getting to meet Hannah Lo, whose child is facing this really horrible disease, but she is a fighter, she's like, we're going to find a solution for this, we're going to pour into research. And what does she do, she gathers her friends, her network her people. And it's like, this is this the age old story of like how we come together. And I think that's the beautiful thing of philanthropy that it stitches us together in ways that we'd probably never be connected otherwise. And that's why we get so excited about the Impact Uprising that we talked about around here, because that's what this is about. We believe it's life changing, and we believe it's actually going to solve the world's greatest problems.

Becky Endicott

07:32

Well, I can't let you just go on Panelo without like, not pausing for a second because, you know, we talk so often to founders and to Nonprofit Professionals and coaches and staff. But here you have like a mom, who put together a nearly $2 million peer to peer fundraiser, because she was fighting for her child. And if anyone wants to go and check out that episode, it's episode 342. But I also think about Movember, Movember grew this worldwide digital community, you know, 5 million plus mustaches, and they had a digital toolkit, where they could help people talk about men's health. And guess what that population really made Movember explode. And I had to lift one more that I just love so much, which was when the skin really were on fire for getting legislation passed, to get paid leave for, you know, parents in the United States, not just parents, caregivers. And when that, you know, that legislation failed in Congress, they took it to the masses. And they started a campaign called Show us your leave. And they asked major companies brands that you and I all know and love to show us in one slide what your leave policy looks like, and let's celebrate it, they gathered them all with a hashtag. And it created this massive movement of consumers asking their brands to take part in this. This is how community is built. It's built, like we said, at the very beginning, it's based on your values. And when people and when I say people, I mean that in a broad swath, you're believers, your donors, your consumers, your neighbors, whatever they are, when they see themselves when they see those core values within your company, something magical happens, and they latch on. And guess what if they keep seeing them, they're going to call them out to you, which I think is my most favorite part about community. And I have to say that I have also been called out we have been called out by not living to our values that's happened a couple times in the last couple of years. And guess what, I love it.

Jonathan McCoy

09:43

I'm so proud that like we can receive that and really, like, you know, make things different because I mean, that's what we're here for. And so I really appreciate those moments of getting to learn in real time. So I mean, our view of community I know has changed. How could it not sitting at the Feet, if some of these conversations and just in the community that surrounded this, what is changing your perspective be? I mean, from your point of view, as you reflect on it, what's maybe change of how you originally thought about it when we started to today?

Becky Endicott

10:13

Oh my gosh, okay, you're about to get vulnerable becky here, as I'm working through this in therapy on my own. But I've noticed that it's true in our company, and specifically about community. But when you let go of control, when you let go and give community, give your mission, give your words, your impact, to your believers, if you can just let that go. It is the most powerful thing in the world. Because guess what, it doesn't become buttoned up, it becomes so authentic, it becomes something that people can take and make their own. The more I let go, John, the more I let these things come into our life, the richer the story of we're for good becomes the richer the story of generosity, philanthropy and gratitude. And it's because it's allowing more people to come in, because mine, my agenda ain't everybody's agenda.

Jonathan McCoy

11:11

And I feel that I mean, okay, you kind of stealing what I was gonna reflect on, because as I thought about this, in prep for this episode, I think there's like two aspects. There's certainly the power of community personally, and I think we've made some of the dearest friends of our life that are have made the jump and are, you know, trying to work out their own business, I mean, that has become this really unique and cool network of friends that I just am so grateful for, because of this journey. And so there's community of that, that you can just feel seen. And I love that digital community happens, like those can be people that you don't even get to see all the time in real life, but you can be there for each other. And I think we all need that you got to find your people. But secondly, is this idea that we just set up a table, like, you know, if you've listened to some of our founding story, one of like, the formative experiences of why we wanted to start, we're for good. We always hated going to conferences that felt like everybody was really important and already knew each other. And there's like, a totally us that walk in here. And it's like, can we just the kids table I'm sorry, if I don't have the credentials, or if the ribbons sorry, if I don't have not on that committee. But we just wanted to create an inclusive place and just stop and say, Hey, timeout, like, this ain't working anymore. And we want to create a table that was inclusive, and that was fun. And that, like everybody felt like they could belong. And so I think one point of community was that is like, let's set the table. But 2.0 is what you've described already, Becky is like, when people now in our community feel empowered or feel inspired to create their own tables, just so they can connect with at a deeper level with people. We've seen that with Office Hours, I look at like, Evan and Michelle, that's created space just to hold space for nonprofit leaders on the frontlines. No consultants, no, we're for good stuff. Like just let's come talk. I'm also seeing like little communities pop up, whether it's international development, hey, camo, thank you for creating that space. And the communities that live outside of We Are For Good, that have been inspired by it like that, to me is like when it's working, when it's like things are happening out of our control. And it's beautiful, where people can feel more connected with it with each other. And we're going to be celebrating that every day of the week. So community really is everything. Okay, we got to give a second to talk about the story of Simon. I mean, Simon's like, Okay, what a community story community, right?

Becky Endicott

13:21

Yeah. Okay, so I want if you've hung around with us a little bit, you know about our very good friend Simon. Simon, if you're listening hello from the United States, we hope all is wonderful in Jinja, Uganda, but we met Simon in our community very early on. And Simon has an incredible nonprofit organization called the smile AACOM when who, and it is really about creating business, micro loans for women in his village, which if I can tell you what is going on in rural Uganda, you will know what a big deal it is for women to be empowered to not only have their own businesses, but to have their own money. And Simon story is just an incredible one. And I mean, he was working as a custodian and a major university after being a street child and the the university chancellor saw him and said, What do you want to do with your life? And he said, I just want an education. And he said, if you continue to work here, I'll I'll get you that education in Simon went to the university and then he went and got his master's. And then he went home. And he started this incredible organization. And he has been, I would say, the ultimate hype team member of the We Are For Good community. He is in the community all the time. And a couple of months ago, he came to us and said, My laptop is dying, and I really need a new device. And do you all have any abilities within your community? To get me a new laptop, and I want to say this laptop was almost 20 years old. And so for those of us that are tech geeks, we know how much laptops have changed in the last 20 years. And so I reached out to a couple members in this community. And I said, Does anyone have a laptop laying around that we could repurpose and send across the world to Simon. And I get so choked up when I tell about this story, because someone in our community sent mailed to me. I wish I had the full list right here, but it was a laptop, two iPads. A digital camera. As you know, the the card that goes inside of it five iPhones, headphones, there was just so much in it in they donated all of it because they had come to learn who Simon was. And they loved him for the way he showed up in this world. And I'm going to tell you, it took us three months out the postage of getting something with lithium batteries to Uganda. But Simon got that package, we threw in some we're for good shirts, and stickers and candy for his kids. And we will drop these photos as a part of birthday week. But we found out that was the largest gift that the smile Ahkam wind who had ever received was this gift. And it was nothing more than an expression of community coming to give back to Simon what he has poured so generously into this community. And I will tell you, the donor wants to remain anonymous. They're a very active part of this community. But that to me was we've had some incredible stories come to us. But this is what it's all about. This is gratitude. This is generosity unfolding. And it all happened in community.

Jonathan McCoy

16:52

Holy heck, I mean, that story is never going to get old. And I just think Simon is a beautiful example of someone that just came in, pulled up a chair at the table and like, has impacted all of our lives. And we're a world apart. So I look forward to getting to hug Simon some days, we're going to come to you, Simon, you're going to come to one way or another. But I mean, look, we're in this reckoning moment. And I think there's not a more common conversation I feel like I have with friends right now with colleagues that are in the nonprofit space. But it's a tough people are burnt out. People are having hardship. Our work is harder. We're trying to figure out how we're going to do this sustainably. And we think one of the key antidotes to this is community. And so you know, we dedicated a week of the summer evolution to just talking about burnout, talking about mental health. And we want to connect you to the resources there. So this will be part of what's linked in the show notes. But there was a framework that was shared this summer, it was an episode that we re lifted that I just wanted to give to you. If you're feeling the burnout, you're feeling compassion, fatigue, here's some steps to take. And this is of such value and really resonated with me the last few weeks, but one is just to grieve. And that is like acknowledgement that this is how I feel. And that's okay. Like it's understanding what you're feeling in this moment. But then second is remember, going back to the why that's kind of what we're doing on this episode today. And it's kind of cathartic, let's be honest, to be like, why are the you know, why did I want to get into this work? What was my connection to the cosmos, my passion at the deeper level? And then you want to spend time investigating? Are the things that you believe about this moment? Are they actually true? And where can you like shore up and really like dive into those things? And then second, or next is plan. And that's about like literally putting together a plan of how am I going to take care of myself? What am I going to do? What am I going to change? Who can I sync up with? What can I add to or take away to be able to move forward. And then partner because one of the most powerful lessons learned in that episode with Ashley and Eleanor is that self care was never meant to be done just alone, like it's done in community. And I think that's why it's so powerful to lift this that when you have authentic community and you're walking through some of these hard things and verbalizing them, we want to create space for that, but finding that in your own life, but that's the only way to really move through this. And so I hope that that really helps as you kind of hear that and we'll make sure that that episodes are linked, but we've also put together a playlist of community because if these stories are stoking something that's inside you, newsflash, this is such a thread and so many conversations and you will see the connected thread as you listen to more of the stories that we listened to. So look for the playlist of community is core. We'll link that up in the show notes today, too.

Becky Endicott

19:34

Can I please share two stories within our community that gave me life the last six months? Because the we are for books group is a phenomenon. We had four members of our community I got to name them out here Evan Wildstein Jordanna Merkin Taylor Johnson CFRE and Natalie Monroe. They came to us and they said what if we had a quarterly book club where we're all reading the same gamebook we're all reflecting what we got out of it, you know, how it's helping us shape our corner of the world, what a beautiful expression of community. And the second one that I love was started by Nathan Chapelle. And he said, I want to start seeing we're for good shirts in airports, I'm going to start wearing my we're for good shirt every time I travel, because I know that this is going to start a movement where I'm going to start seeing people that I don't even know are going to be my friends across the world in different airports. And the second he posted that on LinkedIn, we just started getting photos from all over of people in their shirts. And John and I have started doing it every time we travel to. And it's just this cool little movement, it doesn't have to be an extraordinary grand gesture, we can do little 1% shifts that help us be the light that we're going to see in the world. And that started within our community. I'm just here to like, put a peace, sign up and say we are with you, friends, keep coming with these great ideas. Keep using the space for good, and however you see it manifesting

Jonathan McCoy

20:59

love it so much. Well, okay, we're like we're celebrating our birthday of the podcast. This is officially three years. And we got to do a little bit of reflection about like what we've seen in podcasting. And so one thing that I gotta lift is a value that I think I started this whole conversation with today is playing the long game. And if you go back, you know, before we ever recorded our first episode, I was binge listening to all this like entrepreneurial stuff, because we didn't know anything about podcasting. So we're trying to learn about like, how do you do these things? Who does it? Well, all those sorts of things. And a guy named Lewis Howes is a prolific podcaster. He's had more than 1000 episodes, he's written multiple New York Times best selling books, and all these things. He's interviewed all the greats. And I found this random interview of him talking about podcasting. And he said, If you don't commit, when you're starting a podcast, to staying in it consistently for three years, you might as well not expect it to turn into anything, because it just takes time for things to swell and grow, and all those sorts of things. And I remember like sharing that early on to the team. And he was like, he might fade on half the podcast forever, but I just kind of want to get to the three year mark, but I just got to speak to the principle behind it, which is playing the long game. And I think it changes how you show up in life, if you've got your vision, if you've got your eyes set up beyond today. And we showed up, like we're not going to consider stopping for three years, you know, in this kind of an unspoken rule that it's like, we didn't miss a release date. And we followed through, and we recorded on days that we were tired and burnt out and sort of those things, because we were subscribed to like we're going to do this and the compounding effect, not that all of our problems are solved or that we feel like we've like, done everything we want to do. But I will speak to that, at this moment. There's so much happening, you know, as a result of just showing up consistently. And that's the thing that I would point to, and I think the the friends that have surrounded us and that have cheered us on along the way, would say the same thing is like there's power and just the consistency, whether you are good at the beginning or not like you get better with just going through the motions and kind of refining as you go. And so I think there's so much of a lesson there for just about everything in life, play the long game, that was a really long way to say it just play, play the long game, and I believe it to be true more than ever. No,

Becky Endicott

23:14

you were right. And consistency is the key. And I think that that's a hallmark that we can kind of take away from this conversation is, how often are you showing up for your community? Are you only showing up you know, when the direct mails hitting? Are you only showing up on Giving Tuesday? Are you only showing up when you're asking, then that's a culture shift that needs to be made, because we need to show up in good times and in bad our donor relations friends would have taught us this so beautifully. It's that you need to be this constant and consistent source. And so I think that leads to like kind of the last little value that we're going to lift up here, when you show up consistently, when you're building that rhythm. And that heartbeat where people are used to looking at what you're saying and talking about and what you're sharing. And it's a drumbeat of the rhythm of how they're getting information where they're getting story and inspiration. We got to talk about how you cultivate and activate the rabid fan, because we're not just looking at donors anymore. I think that it was just a very 1.0 model. I think that's also to what we were saying before, it's an extractive model. When you look at individuals like donors, you're just wanting something from them. And the reality is we can get something from each other. In fact, we can lift each other and so when I think about our core value of cultivate and activate rabid fans, there's a couple hallmarks I want to lift about how you can do that. Well. You can create a space of belonging, not just a space where you talk about stuff, but about a space where people feel seen valued and known. That means reacting to what they say. That means talking back to them. That means sending a DM it means when you see their gift come in, you can come in and say, Hey, I see you here. And I see you over here, we see you all throughout our organization. Like, that's amazing. That creates a different shift and cultivating and activating a rabid fan. I also think you have to set a tone for generosity. And it's got to be more than just giving dollars. Yes, we know why we're here. Yes, we need those dollars to keep our lights on and to keep us paid, and to keep us doing this work. But it's not just about the money, it's about how people can show up to give. And when I look at the economics of the world, right now, there's a lot of people who don't have a lot to give in terms of dollars, but they have other assets they can bring to the table. And we need to appreciate and value that as much as we do the dollar. And when you do that people respond generously. And when you ask for something, because you're not always asking, they show up, and they show up generously. And they'll give what they can give. And if they can't give, they find a way to amplify it. So remember, we are cultivating and activating rabid fans, we are not just asking donors for gifts to our organizations.

Jonathan McCoy

26:10

That's the path it feels better to. And the bigger zoomed out picture of that is that when you're showing up generous, it looks like saying, hey, this donor may not be a great fit for our organization. But introduce them to another one like that will come back to you like the power of connection of introductions, has been paramount to our ability to make friends in this space and to like truly grow with is the Impact Uprising. So if you hear something, I mean, where's the lesson in this is like, Don't white knuckle everything in your organization, you know, when you stay in line with your vision, but you're open to innovation and adaptation, things are going to surprise you. I mean, for us in this journey, it's look like you know, growing our core values from our original list of seven to that eight community, which really is everything to adapting frameworks as we see things change, and to just being in this posture of always listening to the community just so we can become better and more intentional and serve the people that we're here to serve. Okay, so we teased at the beginning that something was coming. And it's that portion of the episode. I'm so excited to share this big announcement we've been working on for a while. Oh, my

Becky Endicott

27:17

gosh, we've been working on this specifically, can we give a shout out to our unicorn? Julie confer our producer and head of media has been working on this concept for over a year. And let me just tell you, we believe education is for everyone. And we really work to make our teaching as forward thinking as accessible as affordable and as inclusive as humanly possible. Also, if you can't tell from this episode, we deeply believe believe in the power of community. So to keep our podcast content and community free and accessible, we just really need the support of generous friends and believers to help power and sustain our content. And that is why I like want to do a drumroll, John, what's happening.

Jonathan McCoy

27:59

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Becky Endicott

30:16

I remember John joining my first leg sort of Patreon podcast storytelling group, and it was humans for New York. And I put $5 in a month. And that's literally where our starts is $5 you can help power this content, because we do want to keep it free. And we want to keep a Democratic platform. But I want to give like a little taste for the AMA for this month. Because if you've hung around here, you know we talk about the impact Ark is our secret sauce. It is the framework by which John and I run everything through all of our movements through building. And it's historically been a three part process staging, storytelling, syndication will guess what y'all just like that eighth core value, we figured out one was missing. And we're diving into stoking, which is the fourth key element of the impact arc and our first AMA, we're going to talk about why it's not just enough to post your content. What happens when you start engaging, when you start getting signals, and it goes right back to that cultivate and activate and mobilize those rabid fans and guess what the act of stoking is going to create some believers. So that'll be our first episode. And John's right, you get the Cliff Notes from the entire month's worth of podcasts all rolled in, we hope it's an amazing deal for you. We have sought to make this such a premium because we've had so many people say, How can I help. And in the past, we say, share the podcast, you know, with a friend bring, you know, bring somebody into the community. But today, we're coming out we're saying we want this community content, to be fueled, to be created, to be invested and to be perpetuated through community and we would be entirely honored if you would take that first step and become a good friend. So happy birthday to you all. It's not just our birthday this every year we will come in on our birthday and have a celebration of community because it's the spirit of what you all are creating here. That gets us out of bed and joyful to be in this work. Joyful to be able to know you to know how we can power good better in the spaces we are. You don't have to be a nonprofit professional. You don't have to be a philanthropist. Good humans are welcome here. Anyone who wants to foster and do good through our efforts with learning growing, including amplifying and just getting active and the passion and the joy that we want to see in the world. So thank you for hanging out here with us.

Jonathan McCoy

32:53

So if all of this talk today has struck a chord or maybe the podcast has helped you in some way you can check it all out at we are for good.com/friends There's really a level that fits any budget and we did that by design and it's a one time gift that even option is available to just thank you so much for your support. truly an honor to be in this with you friends.

Becky Endicott

33:12

And thank you for celebrating our birthday with us because it is a day to really celebrate you and to celebrate all that has been fostered in this incredible space. Go out go do something kind for someone today, y'all. Happy birthday.

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