100%, so shoutout to the colleagues in public health who are thinking about these sorts of things. There's a lot of momentum looking about ecological approaches and one health and planetary health as it relates to built environments. You know, thinking more about how we add more green space, bicycle lanes. These are sort of bread and butter issues where public health interacts with, you know, city design and whatnot, and geography and other disciplines, 100%. So I guess, based on what you said, I just want to give an example of where I think some of the ethics is a bit or some of the ethics and politics, to the extent that we want to distinguish between the two, are sort of present there. And I think our thought about that, I think there's an opportunity for those of us in ethics to be part of this conversation more explicitly. So you mentioned the design of places to sort of get people to use stairs as opposed to elevators. And there's a debate, for example, to what extent does meaningful change, and meaningful meaning such that people begin to sort of incorporate these design changes? To what extent can it be top down versus bottom up? To what extent does it matter that you get community buy in and that therer be, that these changes are organic and organically sort of pushed, versus the extent to which some person doing health promotion is sort of architecturing their way into a healthier lifestyle? So I think the question of self-determination and agency in that sense, so not at the individual level, but as at a community level, matters as well. It's fine for public health to go in there and have these different designs that enable more green space and more walking and stuff. Actually, it's great, but if it's not coupled with what are the current needs of those populations, so if you have a park and green space, but no transit which connects these different places, or you're like, great, we have sidewalks that lead to nowhere. And here I'm thinking about my beloved Toronto and the GTA where, like, you know, and you know what I'm talking about, where you would grow up, and you would be like, riding your bike on the sidewalk, and then the sidewalk would end and you'd have, like, a six lane road or whatever. So I think that the idea of design, where design comes from, where it ought to come from, what values it ought to espouse, matters. And again, these discussions are occurring. And I think as ethicists, and particularly bioethicists, I think we have a role to play and a role to listen and a role to learn. And so I think that's part of my excitement is that I think there's a lot of learning that I need to do in order to sort of try to contribute meaningfully. But you're absolutely right, a lot of this is occurring. The last thing I'll say is we do think about this in the context of infectious diseases. So infection control is all about new manipulation of place and space, right? To curb infections, but the value of it as place being normatively valuable, or of the valence of place that, to me, is still kind of missing.